Knicks close to signing Raymond Felton
by gian casimiro on Jul 9, 2010 5:09 PM EDT
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The deal is reportedly for three years, 25 million. That's certainly a steep price for Felton but with the contracts that have been given out this summer, perhaps another team was offering a similar number or more years and the Knicks had to bump up their offer a bit.
Here's a video of him talking about the eventual signing.
Knicks close to signing pg Raymond Felton to multi-year deal, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Just last week it was Luke Ridnour but this seems to have more legs (stronger legs? longer legs?). No numbers or years to report yet but I'll update if and when the deal goes down.
If the Knicks are signing Raymond Felton along with the pieces they just acquired from Golden State, it looks like D'Antoni will finally pop the clutch and run teams out of the building.
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Gah
Without knowing the #s, I really am not feelin this.
Why?
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
I like Felton..... Good Job Donnie.... Love the move.
I think Felton will have more success than Randolph…. Felton has the stuff for now….
We need to put some talent in place now…. this season, so we are that much more attractive to Melo next summer.
If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!
Well it was either him or Ridnour
Want to see the #’s first though
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I dig it
For anything around 3 years, 21 mil. For more, I have doubts.
I don't know about this. MDA said he wanted a point forward
Odom? Grant Hill? Diaw? Who knows, but I prefer Ridnour over Felton
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
yeah but amar’e wants to play pf.. and felton would work very well in the mdz system
and now with randolph james and turiaf do we really need another big guy?
i rather get a guard, and than next year when curry comes off the books, with the extra money from another contract expiring we would sign carmelo :)
felton gallo melo amare randolph would be an awesome starting five..
with any of TD walker chandler azubuike james and turiaf coming off the bench.. thats a very fast skilled athletic and deep team
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I think Gallo could be a point forward if needed
anyone else think so?
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
buggin
I want u to go watch sum highlights again. End of the season cock was erect! He doesn’t have a crossover but he’ll definitely handle the rock better this year
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
just from seeing clips of randolph
I can already tell his handle is much advanced over gallo’s. His knock was turnoverS, but reports say he knows tht his issue was forcing plays and tht he has been working on court iq and limiting the oc ness.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
by semsemma on Jul 9, 2010 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think he is quick enough to P&R w/ STAT.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Just preserve the 2011 max
Felton is a great fit for us and he’ll be able to show everything he was forced to hold back in Charlotte. He’s very fast and is great on the break.
Yeah
Going from an offensively challenged team and coach like Larry Brown to D’Antoni is going to be quite the change
by wilson chandler's neck tattoo on Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
i’m fine as long as we can sign a max contract in in 2011
If the contract is reasonable...
Could be another piece to add in a possible trade. We’re getting better by the day, but we still need some desirable pieces to send back in any kind of trade.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
we are gonna be runnin like a bunch of mofos from the popos...
My name's Gus Johnson; I get buckets.
by ThisIsTraps on Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If only one of our guys
Had Cop Speed, as coined by one Gus Johnson.
Never underestimate the power of a neck brace and wheelchair. In Donnie Walsh I trust!
by Rohpuri on Jul 9, 2010 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just as the player..love it.
We’ll see the contract tho. If its $6mill per, great. More…not so great, but not bad.
Felton’s a very good PG ya’ll. Dude can FLY
Bye, Lee :(
I have a feeling
If we trade for Mello, Gallo will be a part of that deal. You never know though.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
In that case, better to wait for 2011
Melo could convince the Nuggets to take back something (Chandler?) rather than nothing at all
All the better
If Gallo improves even more next year and turns Dirk-esque then we’ll have no need for Melo.
melo is far from now
U gotta look at the roster for what it is right now yo.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
by semsemma on Jul 9, 2010 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed and it looks prety damn good!
I’ll take Felton over Duhon
"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."-
Patrick Ewing (my Knick Hero)
I'd take Felton over 20 of the other starting PG's in the NBA.
He’s a good young player who spent the last two years in PG boot camp playing for Old Man Larry. Knick fans should know what that means i.e. running the half court set and defending regardless of the strengths of your personnel and dealing with getting benched if you piss Larry off. He’s an ascending guy and while I dont think he’s ever going to be an elite point guard can anybody name the last elite point guard to win a title ?
Here’s a clue he’s hated by more people on this site than Lebron is right now … he’s a great evaluator of talent but a terrible coach. He’s also prone to trading for bad contracts …. if you haven’t guessed it by now its your future GM Isiah Thomas.
Felton’s number next year ? 16+ ppg , 8+ apg , 3-4 rpg , 1-2 spg and hes a good defender.
by TheBXRepresenta on Jul 10, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Felton is very good….
His situation in chArlotte sucked…. He had Jack throwing up shots randomly… And couldn’t run a decent offense with the players they had. Lucky for Felton. We got a real leader in d’antoni and a great forward in Amare for Felton to feed the ball too
If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!
by MrWilliams on Jul 10, 2010 9:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Donnie
will not sign a pg that is going to screw up our cap space for next year; lets hold back judgement until we see the numbers.
No hes not
and he could be great in our system. We are going to run the shit out of teams
Well that oughta put the Knicks into the playoffs. It also take CP3 off the table, if he was ever on it. I hope we still maintain some cap flexibility for next off-season, cause this team is still a big piece away form really competing.
I don’t think the Hornets will want any big contracts and won’t want to take back a PG, since the whole reason Paul is available is they want to see what Collinson can do.
i'd rather get tony p
A lot of us didn’t notice but yesterday cp3 signed with LRMR…dats not a gud sign
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hey
Don’t count it out. Dey did get mike miller
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
tho CP3 would really have to sign for jack shit. Miller’s getting like $6mill, the “big 3” unless they take next to nothing, basically no chance.
..basically..no chance.
Bye, Lee :(
S&T, and he could take the mid-level. Don’t think potential money left, think about how laqueen is goin to be in his ear as well as how laqueen carried dis shit out. And they call each other brothers.
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah
Even a S&T…the Heat are already going to be over the cap. so they have to almost match whatever money CP3 is making, within 25% of it anyway. The Heat would have to trade one of their new big 3 to get CP3, not happening.
this
plus if there is a lockout you can say goodbye to the mid level exception, which is the only way they can sign Paul as a FA.
by secret defense on Jul 9, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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FWIW: http://bobcatsplanet.com/wp/report-card-2-raymond-felton
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Hey
I don’t necessarily know if Felton is the ultimate answer but – other teams seem to be higher on Ridinour than him for whatever reason.
And if you can get a good point guard for a good price, you get him here, becuase we are a bit thin and unknown at that position. You can always trade him later. IF he’s not grossly overpaid.
My point was
that he may actually be cheaper than Ridinour right now, even though it was thought to be the other way around.
yea.
lets see what Felton’s contract is, then what Ridnour gets.
Either way, fucking psyched to get a PG like Felton on the squad.
Pringles damn near made DUHON look good (not quite tho…lol). Imagine what he can do with an above average NBA point guard instead of a below average ACC point guard?
Bye, Lee :(
Yeah
I like the part about Felton being fast. He’ll definitely be the best point guard the Knicks have had in a while.
Felton’s supposed to be a good defender too.
But what of Toney? I fear for his minutes.
I think it may be better for Tony.
at the very least, its competition for TD. I’d rather have him compete for the job instead of winning over some POS like Duhon.
TD can play some 2 guard tho, so that could help.
He’ll be the first guard off the bench in a Jason Terry/Barbosa type role. No problem with that.
Bye, Lee :(
fo real
and even if he loses the job I think he’s competitive enough to try and win it back and prove to the brass they’re spending alot of money for what they already have
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I belive in a fanpost back in March
I said we should target Raymond Felton. I’m just glad some of these guys I like are finally being mentioned as possible Knicks. Never would I have expected Turiaf, Randolph, and Azubukie to end up here, and now Felton. I serioulsy hope we get him at reasonable contract.
Never underestimate the power of a neck brace and wheelchair. In Donnie Walsh I trust!
by Rohpuri on Jul 9, 2010 5:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Felton's Draft Profile:
What team/coach that drafts Felton will have a bigger impact on his success than the other top point guards in the draft. Felton needs to play for a coach that is willing to let him push the ball and play at the speeds he thrives at. In the right system, Felton can be the best point guard in the draft; in the wrong system Felton just might be average.
From DraftExpress.com http://www1.draftexpress.com/article/Raymond-Felton-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-2692/#ixzz0tDtOeYbs
http://www.draftexpress.com
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Truth
I’m getting excited. Getting a guy with this skillset is never a bad thing. He could really blossom in SSOL system.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
yup.
He’s not nearly as good a shooter or passer as Nash (and Nash had Don Nelson all those years too..) but I think he’s been wasting away here with the Demon coach
Bye, Lee :(
Agreed.
I didn’t mean he will be as good as Nash, but he could get a similar bump. His physical skills are undeniable and he has shown an ability to improve his shot.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Depends on longevity and amount (thats what she said) of money in the contract,
but he’s a good defender and decent passer. They shouldn’t block TD or a potential Paul trade with this signing though, so a 2 years 12 mil., or a 3 year 15-20 mil. contract would be great for the Knicks.
Cp3 is managed by laqueen…
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Felton/Buike backcourt
We’ll upgrade SG in the future, but that would be our best defensive backcourt in ages
Bosh is copying Stoudemire
he is wearing numb 1 in MIA
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
It's the new species of Dinosaur
they aren’t all extinct
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
oh
my mistake, I thought it was a new species of transvestite.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Only player I kno in mia is dwade. Much respect for him. Rupual and laqueen can eat dicks
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully its not over ten and he does good kuz I rather have tony p
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why not? Tony p, melo, gallo, amare? Fuckin championship. Do you remember 2 yrs ago he was droppin 30 and 40 a game in the playoffs
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
last leg?
He’s only 26 and steve nash is 36
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Parker's 28
and getting injury prone. But he’s beeing in the league for 9 years + all those playoff games.
Parker’s age doesn’t really tell the story here.
Bye, Lee :(
yea i jus saw that
I guess it wud b nice to keep felton over him but if u want cp3 den u shud want tony p because I don’t remember cp3 ever playin more than 70 games
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
CP3's only played less then 78 games twice
including this year.
Also, CP3 doesn’t have those long playoff miles on him.
I’d like CP3, but he’s probably more of a pipe dream then Lebuns ever was. He’s on the books till 2012.
Bye, Lee :(
Cartilage removal shouldn't be a short-term concern (assuming they left most of it)
Often leads to early arthritis, but that’s like 10-20 years down the road.
Don’t mean to be a know-it-all…but I lost about 25% of mine in reconstructive knee surgery, so it’s something I’ve had to learn about.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 9, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if we were locks for win now
But he won’t ddo anything but decline from here on out. Plus he’d be more expensive than any other pg beside paul
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
by semsemma on Jul 9, 2010 7:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know what
If this signing goes down, I think the Knicks are damn good. Shit. Rebounding a bit of a question mark, but damn.
Definitely has the potential
his avg reb per game, looking at the per 36 minute stats…would be about 12 reb every 36 minutes. Guy can board.
OK I keep posting but
Thinking about it, I can see why they went for Felton. Ridinour is solid, but Felton has more ability to really put pressure on a team with his speed. One thing about D’antoni – he is interested in knocking the other team silly on offense.
And to think, we would get another guy known for his good defense.
Check out his draft profile, posted above.
Felton clearly has the talent to flourish in this offense. Playing for Larry Brown is pretty much the opposite of what the writer of his draft profile believed would be good for his career.
Let’s hope MDA can turn Felton into Nash part 2.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
well we know he understands the value of defense from larry brown
now DA shows him the value of offense and how the both can live in happiness!!
Felton turned down
a deal for 6 years and $40 million last year, so I’m guessing this deal will be for minimum of 4 years and $28 million.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 9, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
That’s a pretty gud number, its a contract that can be traded so I like it
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really doubt Donnie's messing with the ability to get Melo
(unless he knows Melo’s off the table already…)
Bye, Lee :(
u never know man
With a solid pg. Melo could be traded for a hyped up chandler(good season this coming year) and a hyped azu and curry’s expiring along wit the pick we just acquired. A lot can change from here till then
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
by semsemma on Jul 9, 2010 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll take that
Really don’t want much more than 7 per. Hopefully this wasn’t a panic, throw everything at him, move.
i like it
i dont like that it will be a multiyear probly overpriced deal
but of all the pg on the market, he is the best one, and he will help the knicks from day 1
For the right money, this is a solid signing. Felton has blazing jets and is a decent passer, and we desperately need a PG who can push the tempo. He’s also a pretty experienced pick and roll player, but if we pay this guy 7M a year I’ll shoot myself.
7 mil
might be what it costs. Considering what Rudy Gay got, this 7 mil for Felton would be a bargain.
Sheridan reports
Deal is agreed upon, starting at 7 mil per year. All the details I got so far.
yeah no joke, that article earlier was pretty despicable
I couldn’t believe it was him authoring it after his insight during the beginning FA rumors….
totally went to shit.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 10, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm for it, get it done.
been going back and forth btwn Felton and Ridnour but truth is neither one has done anything to prove that they are anything but stop gaps to me. Good stop gaps, infinitely better than DuDuhon but stop gaps none the less.
but the change in system and offensive scheme may have whoever we get step their game up
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
Call him a stopgap if you want
I call him an improvement. And there’s a shot he really shines in this system. He’s got the quickness and has experience. I believe he would improve the team.
The key is the $$ because if you give him too much he’s kind of untradeable and you’re stuck with him. But on the other hand if you try to nickel and dime here you may end up with a mediocre team this year, and you may have missed your chance to improve.
No, I definately think he is an improvement
I’m for the signing, but I’m saying pretty soon there will be PG’s available that’ll run circles around him. I hope he signs with us and has a stellar break out season but if not…stop gap
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Felton an elite Guard not at all but
He instantly makes us a better team. He is a legitmate starting point guard and a better and more consistent player than Duhon. Also D’Antoni seems to get more out of point guards than other coaches. Hey even though Duhon was terrible this year, Duhon actually played probably the best basketball of his professional career his first year with Mike. Felton also has been in half court offenses his whole NBA career, which does not take advantage of his chief asset, his speed. When he was in college he was at his best when his team played uptempo. I am not gonna predict breakout as in all-star numbers, but in Pringles system, with his speed and ability to finish and pas in the open floor, I expect that he will put up much better numbers than he did in Charlotte.
by Robert Currence on Jul 10, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not too against this.
I’d hate to see him get overpaid (which he very easily could) but I think he’ll look fabulous in this system.
I dunno why
I think 5yrs $45mill is about what he’ll get, based on what others are getting.
Overpaid by a bit, but to be honest..I think he could be worth that here. And I don’t really think that effects chances at Melo next year either.
Bye, Lee :(
We don't know what the max would be next year
with the new CBA, so it’s hard to say. Hard to say no to an opportunity to improve because you are worried about MAYBE signing Melo. For all we know he’ll sign his extension. He very well might.
Exactly
Signing somebody that will help NOW is better than waiting for something that MIGHT happen, especially when both are good options (not comparing Mello to Felton, but Felton’s solid).
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Haven't we learned to trust Walsh
All he’s done are good moves up to now. Felton will be a beast in D’antoni’s system, and he was drafter RIGHT AFTER Deron Williams and CP3. I’m happy with the deal as long as it’s a tradeable contract. Excellent move if we get him. Don’t overpay though.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I really didn't think this would happen
But is also a commitment to jam now rather than wait to see who comes available or not in the coming year regarding point guards. So I wonder if CP3 being under LMWhatever spoiled the wait there as IB kinda mentioned in an earlier post, but it’s also probly a good move for Amare’s confidence. TD DWTDD, but it appears to me, with Amare the centerpiece, their surrounding him with the pieces to make him comfortable, successful, and be allowed to do what amare do best.
yea..build around Amare, why not?
CP3’s a pipe dream. Melo would be great, but he could sign that contract with Denver any minute.
Knicks need a PG. TD is probably better off as a scoring PG off the bench anyway.
Remember the Hornets were pretty good with CP3 and Jannero Pargo getting a ton of minutes?
I don’t really see a dude who’s head and shoulders got that 2-guard locked down. TD could be that. Not starter, but getting plenty of minutes.
Bye, Lee :(
so we have like 12mil cap space
with whatever is left after this deal what can we try to address on one year deals with whats left?
another big? another sg? nothing? earl barron?
We have a pretty packed roster as it is.
Douglas
Felton
Azuibuke
Walker
Gallinari
Chandler
Rautins
Stoudemire
Turiaf
Randolph
Jordan
Fields
Unless Randolph and/or Turiaf aren’t getting any minutes, I don’t know what the point would be of adding someone else. But maybe. We could pick up Udonis Haslem.
Raja Bell
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
i just meant well prob have 4-6mil left
other than amare, randolph, and turiaf our bigs are jordan and curry, maybe another big would be nice for depth especially in case someone goes down
id rather..
keep the 4-5 mil left over and maintain flexibility DURING the year, as opposed to just afterwards. Remember, we have Curry at 12 (plus 5 becomes 17). Could be used to get a big tyma midseason
3 of those dudes probably won't see minutes
my guess two of em will be fields and Turiaf.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jul 9, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's enough
Felton can play off the ball a bit too. TD, Felton, Rautins, Chandler, Azubuike, and Walker as the G rotation? Not bad to me.
Then Gallo, Chandler, Turiaf, Fields, Amare, Randolph, Jordan as the F rotation?
Bye, Lee :(
we have to keep in the back of our minds
dantoni keeps his rotations to 8-9 guys max
so could the rotation be
felton
chandler
gallo
amare
randolph
td
the bookie* (potential P&T Knickname)
turiaf
walker
*may not start the season
potentially
sure.
I’m not sure Randolph starts tho (probably Turiaf). Either way, I’m good with it.
Bye, Lee :(
start amare and turiaf
and then giving randolph more minutes off the bench than turiaf gets could be solid
If this goes down
Were looking like a solid 45-47 win team
No, Amare will erupt into a beast because he is pissed that James went to Miami
and he will play D and score 35 ppg and grab 13 rpg, so you’re looking at a 55-60 win team :D
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
by Jaxis on Jul 9, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
as long as david stern agrees to let us play 92 games we could certainly go 45-47
by bmanley620 on Jul 10, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well the nice thing now is people
who used to say we were too small, will have to marvel that we can put a quality big or small team on the floor
I'm predicting
Felton, Randolph and Walker will all have monster season. By monster, I mean one of them will be an all-star. Can’t wait for the season.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
It'd break his arm
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Wasn't that funny
But kudos to somebody doing a parody a day after it was aired lol.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Nah
Guy just needs to make decisions on his own, and not be sweating cause he didn’t know what he’s getting himself into. Did you hear some of the shit he said? LeBron was lost, but he’s usually fine with the media.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
So now is the time
To really see what D’antoni is made up of. No more excuses, we have a solid squad. Run every opponent, especially those m-f-ing Heat out of the building. I’m hyped for next season.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
i would say realistically these guys get the minutes..
amare
randolph
turiaf
gallo
chandler
azubuike
douglas
felton
with walker getting some amount and..
james, curry, rautins, fields warming the benches for the most part..
than next year when curry and chandler come off the books they could sign melo and you got..
amare
randolph
turiaf
melo
azubuike
gallo
douglas
felton
walker
rautins
fields
james
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
james?
do you mean jordan? I think you are confusing your Jerome’s
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by viva_morrison on Jul 9, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no way
if walker loses that weight he could get alot more speed back. I would rather give walker time than azubuike
Exactly what I was going to say
The dude has crazy potential too, I can’t wait to see what he’ll do when he gets fit.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I agree, walker should get the bulk of the time right away
if d’antoni indeed goes all out and lets the team run wild, we could be using more guys just to spell others
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by viva_morrison on Jul 9, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well Azubuike is still coming off an injury
so I’d assume most likely, should Felton sign…
Felton
Walker
Cock
Amare
Turiaf.
TD, Chandler, Bookie, Randolph most likely getting the minutes off the bench
Bye, Lee :(
I'd like to see Randolph starting
in the same backcourt as Amar’e. But totally agree with Walker’s spot.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
wow u dont think playing might be an option
felton
cock
chandler
amare
turiaf
than maybe play walker into the rotation eventually?
I do think that...
I’d assume there’s gonna be a ton of rotations in the mix. Especially should Cock improve the handles.
Gallo
Bookie
Chandler
Randolph
Amare
..why not?
Bye, Lee :(
I don't know about you guys..
but I’m really starting to like our roster. The pieces seem like they’ll fit together real well, and fit the system.
He had a plan all along
Plan A didn’t work out…initiate Plan B.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Yep
I’m liking life post-LeBronmania, kind of feels like we’re building a “real-team”, not signing 2 max guys and filling them with mediocre players. It’ll be a very interesting season.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Felton?
Is he the mythical 2nd Max contract player? Knowing the Knicks and Dolan, it is almost guaranteed! God help us!
relax..
it seems like it’s going to be 4 year 28 mill
after last 9 years..
If Outlaw gets 5 yrs 35 million Felton has to get at least that. I like Felton. If we do nothing else we could win 35+.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
4/28 even better
3/21 optimal
or maybe they can frontload the deal heavily to this season?
Bye, Lee :(
Dolan's not handing out the contracts chief.
just paying em.
Donnie buys the groceries with Dolan’s credit card.
Bye, Lee :(
Pick a GM
Isiah, Layton, Grunfeld, pick one, Dolan is the common denominator.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the owner dude.
and he aint sellin.
As long as he CTC we’re alright.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Donnie Walsh and everything he's been doing the last 2 years
And especially this offseason?
I give you a D
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And you an F
F as in fool! Whats you grade and why?
With Felton I give Donnie a C+ depending whats next!
Donnie gets a B+ all things considered.
he can let any available FA rear end him all they want, can’t sign the dotted line for em.
Bottom line, Curry’s contract is the reason the “super trio”
is not hamming it up in NY. And That’s not Donnie, that’s IT. That’s the only way he can sign those guys, so that’s not on Donnie.
You can’t fail when you probably never had a chance.
The Knicks got younger and better. They maintained the cap flexibility with expiring contracts for next year
The only reason its not an A+ just yet, is cuz I want to see it on the court.
Other then that, the only people to blame for not signing in NY, are the players..cuz its their decision.
Bye, Lee :(
Curry
Curry isnt gone yet. But he probably will never be resigned!
Bottom line Donnie came up with this plan after LBJ signed the 2 year deal to allow on out for himself in 2010. LBJ was what Donnie was after but could never say without Tampering.
exactly..
Curry’s $11million is why they could never get the “super trio”. Which most likely would’ve signed in NY if they could.
The “Trio” is the only way you get him. So there’s no way Donnie did anything wrong.
Bye, Lee :(
I give Donnie a b+ as well
because i legitimately believe that he had a plan b c d etc. Look at the Nets right now, its very obvious it was lebron or bust. Travis Outlaw, Jordan Farmar…..yeeesh. We are gonna have solid players that we arent going to have to overpay for. ITS A MIRACLE!!!!
Yo, what will you guys say when the Knicks make a deep playoff run
WITHOUT fucking LeBron James?
You gonna call that lucky?
I’m gonna call it the fucking brilliant assembly of a team by a dude who knows whats up.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 9, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
"If it ain't broke, don't break it." -Charles Oakley
by Tony Marciano on Jul 9, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
we were all in agreement The Don is doing a good job running this shit
by wilson chandler's neck tattoo on Jul 9, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
nah..
there’s people out there that still think Isiah’s running the Knicks and Dolan’s the GM.
Bye, Lee :(
No
Donnie put all the Knicks eggs in one basket and the bottom fell out! We didn’t get a top 3 free agent, no #1 draft pick this year or next. Can’t agree!
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope that's sarcasm
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
#1 like, first rounder?
We have a 1st round pick in the 2011 draft. If you mean #1 overall… the picks are protected for top 1 next year and top 5 in 2012
Traded
A first round pick. I thought it was traded in one of the salary cap dumps.
I hope you were kidding about #1 pick overall?
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Serious about the pick protection..
We’re swapping picks with Houston if we have a higher choice. Plus, Donnie’s added a couple 2nd rounders here and there. Quantity of picks in the second round is a decent enough draft strategy
build a team
they unloaded to get the chance here in this offseason, now they’re building a young squad around Amare.
Not kill space for next year in case Melo’s on the board. Curry’s off the books plus others, so they’ll have that chance.
Plan A was build a team too..not one basket. Never was.
Bye, Lee :(
Their Term
The Knicks, Walsh & D"Antonio, used the Plan B term. Outside Amare & if we get Felton, is OK but hardly LeBron or Wade. Plus you can’t count on Melo or Paul being available as free agents let alone signing with the Knicks.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You do know we got Randolph too right?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Who
How many playoff wins did he contribute? He is no Stack! A maybe perhaps.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We were never getting LBJ or Wade
We were all played. Those 3 were always going to Miami to play together.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Your kidding
Of course I know that, most of America knows that! You made my point, the prize the Knicks were looking for was LeBron, Wade Bosh or any combination from the 3.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Donnie Walsh always said
and the knowledgeable fans on this site (most of the posters here fall into that category) knew, that the plan was this: Clear out the roster of bad contracts to get FLEXIBILITY this offseason.
That is exactly what Donnie accomplished, and it’s paying off.
You are being foolish if you think he could have done anything more to get LeBron or Wade.
Also, assuming that Bosh is the “3rd” of the “best FA’s available” this season may not be correct either. Plenty believe Amar’e was the 3rd best out there.
bosh is a bitch, stingy wrote that article about him before
Just wait till they play each other, everyone will know who the better PF is.
to be honest
i never wanted LeQuan on our team anyway, this is actually how I preferred all along (but with keeping Lee as an option too) anyway, this will work out WAYYY better for us, I think… I dont want a fake championship with a crybaby selfish man… did anybody else want to deal with 5 or 6 years of that type of melodrama from Bron? Let’s build a cohesive team unit and then hate the heat, the way it should be
"If it ain't broke, don't break it." -Charles Oakley
by Tony Marciano on Jul 9, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw come on man
Would you be calling him LeQueen if he came? And be calling the championship’s fake? A championship’s a championship. I’m really digging the way Walsh has handeled this though, and think we’ll be championship contenders if we sign Carmelo either at the trade deadline or next offseason. Till then, we’re just a playoff team.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
"Just a playoff team"
With this roster, I pray we do, but I’ll believe it when I see it. That being said, the fact that we’d even assume something like this only a few years removed from Steve Francis, Jerome James and Starbury is pretty awesome. Vive le Donnie.
We got something better.
Acquiring Randolph and Felton we now have 2 recent lottery picks. Amar’e is a dominant player, and if you ask many around here, he’s better than Bosh. We also have acquired cap room and assets that give Donnie the flexibility to swoop in when an opportunity presents itself.
Bottom line: after years of suffering, we’re looking at a 45 win team and a 7/8 seed. This isn’t great by any means, but it’s certainly a step in the right direction and a welcome change after the past two seasons of watching Nate run around like a chicken without a head and Harrington jacking 3’s.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Amare Yes
He is the only player that isa proven winner. He is the real deal but the other guys are maybe’s.
by Nick Zennario on Jul 9, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta start somewhere.
Can’t be a winner until you’re given a shot. You can’t deny we’ve acquired talent. Also, Felton was the PG of a playoff team last year.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
by keithprime on Jul 9, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn right.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 9, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So what was your plan if things fell through?
Financially this was the only way to rebuild. We tried to get the 3 assholes…they made their decision. So what then just forget the process and resign last years team? Donnie had a plan…. and one if that one failed.
We did the best we could with what was available and got a good young TEAM to move forward with! This isn’t NBA 2k10. You can’t force trades or force the best players to your team. We did get a couple of great consolation prizes and will have better years ahead because of it. We can’t drag people into the present who are obviously are bent on being angry about the past. I was pissed too, but today is a new day.
"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."-
Patrick Ewing (my Knick Hero)
by Ren Carlos on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunno how much stock anyone puts into PER
But everyone on the roster with NBA experience except Eddy rates at or above average
Sounds good
But I don’t think it means much in basketball. We’ve got a good team, so I think the fact that they’ll be playing D’Antoni’s system will make it a lot better. They all seem to be good clubhouse guys, and hard-working, so we’ll see.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
nope.
got Azubuike and Walker as our 6"6 athletic 3pt shooters.
No need for a vag from Spain.
Bye, Lee :(
How bout TD for Oden?
I’d consider that if I was DW. Oden can still be good.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
alan hahn jus tweeted
We were goin to go after kyle korver but pg was more critical goin to be a short term deal so we can go after melo, cp3, or tony p if they become available
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 7:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Korver would be nice
I like the idea of letting Gallo do more than idle at the 3pt line for kickouts
smart move.
Korver would be nice with Felton, but we got shooters. Other then TD, who’s not a true point..no PG.
Bye, Lee :(
This sounds good, just got this tweet:
SpearsNBAYahoo
Felton’s agent Tony Dutt says client has agreed in principle to sign with NYK. Contract won’t be longer than 3 yrs & still being worked on.
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Heeey
3 years! no problem!!
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice
So how much is he getting? 10 million per?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Whoa
Hope not.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 9, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
just spec.
but probably.
I hope its frontloaded or backloaded tho. As long as that 2011 offseason has less going to Ray Ray
Bye, Lee :(
Hopefully frontloaded
10 milli 1st year, whatever number to get Carmelo next season, and then cap it off at even less the next. I hope I wake up and find out the number tommorow.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Max salary can decrease or increase from year to year is 8%
We pay him 10 this year, its gotta be at least 9.2 next year
Nasty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxqE3Mw_IZI
That drive around 1mm is serious.
Speed, strong finishes, some range, dime dropping…I’m happy (and for now, ignoring the fact that his PTS & AST per 36 have dropped little by little the last 3 years). Run Raymond Run.
Really didn't know much
about Felton, but after watching that video I think he fits in perfect with what were trying to do. Hes got a certain swag to him that I think were trying to cultivate.
This team is gonna play really gritty D and alod be able to put up some points on the other end. Im loving it
DW u shrewd mutherfuker.
The only thing he can’t do good is draft n dat ain’t sayin much. The mans a fukin genius. All hail Donnie. Fuck Laqueen
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 9, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Not a very bad Drafter really
People writing off Jordan Hill after one season playing mostly for a coach who generally doesn’t play many players, especially rookies…are foolish. Guys a big talent.
Anyway, I love Donnie too, and am alright with his Drafting too.
we are targeting the wrong charlotte PG
DJ Augustin would be a much better fit for D’antoni’s system. Felton is fast, sure, but thats about it. He can’t shoot. His passing is marginally better than Augustins at this point. I have no idea about the salaries or what we’d have to give up to get him, but I would be much happier if they got DJ instead of Raymond
His name's awesome
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Last Year Split
Felt : .459/.385/.763
DJ: .386/.393/.779
DJ’s a little better outside stroke, but inside the arch? Smooth as Felt all day…
And assists per 36 were 6.1 to 4.7 in Felton’s favor.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=parker_rob&id=5367307
is rob parker the only reporter who is on our side i havent seen him say one negative thing about the knicks
its great to have one reporter on our side :)
by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Jul 9, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He will be a Knick
New York Knicks, Raymond Felton agree in principle to deal – http://es.pn/alKmAG – ESPN via Twitter
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
7 mill range
for the “not less then 3 years”…that’s about as great as it gets.
Donnie done good
Bye, Lee :(
enjoying now that he's actually building the team
instead of going all out to get cap space, the type of players he gets.
Bye, Lee :(
Time to wake up Ray...you're almost home
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 9, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
All NBA players have pics like that, look at boris diaw's
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Damn
Diaw’s fat.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
give him a break he is probably drunk
And we all have probably hooked up with chicks like that or even worse after having one or two past our limit.
by Robert Currence on Jul 10, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions