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Hahn, Adamek on Carmelo Anthony

I'll admit, the Carmelo Anthony rumors have me a little grumpy. I'm grumpy that the grass is always greener and I'm grumpy that national media rumors always seem specially calibrated to provoke us Knicks fans. All that said, Melo sure has put off extending his contract for a while, and rumors of a desertion to New York are now in the public consciousness. Some local beat guys would like to help us put this all into context.

Alan Hahn ($):

But if he can work out an extend-and-trade, he'd get his money and his way. The only reason why the Nuggets should do this is if they get a great offer. Considering that the Knicks already have Amar'e Stoudemire at the four spot, you'd have to believe that any conversation with the Nuggets would have to include Danilo Gallinari.

Here's where it gets tricky for the Knicks and where, I'm told, there is some debate going on within the Knicks' hierarchy. Is it worth paying a king's ransom for Carmelo now, when it is possible you can sign him as a free agent next summer (or after a lockout)? Is it smart to give up a very affordable young talent in Gallinari, who has the potential to be a second or third star player, and remove any chance of making a run at Paul or Deron Williams in 2012?

Steve Adamek lays it out even more plainly:

- The Knicks are interested and doing their due diligence, meaning they’ve let Denver know of that interest and what they have to offer.

- What they want to start their offer with is Eddy Curry and his $11.3 million expiring deal.

- Since Carmelo is due to make $17.1 million this season, the Knicks will have to include more for salary-cap purposes.

- That "more" will have to be able to play.

- The Knicks would like to include Wilson Chandler in that "more."

- Denver’s "more" will start with Danilo Gallinari.

Now, that's just the background of the thing. Some think they know the Knicks' offer already. It's all very exciting. Just bear in mind that an entire industry is built on our propensity to covet. We're pretty reliable in that regard.

Meanwhile, I've seen a lot of you express that any trade pillaging the Knicks' newfound youth and depth can wait a few months. I think I'm with that. Carmelo Anthony is an assassin and one of my favorite players, but this squad is a thing of beauty. As time passes, the Nuggets will be more and more compelled to deal Anthony in order to get anything in return. I say wait, but I'm also deeply in love with the roster Donnie Walsh has assembled. I want to see them operate before it all gets thrown away for a single (albeit excellent) player. That's not even mentioning the possible inclusion of future first-rounders. Share your thoughts in the comments.

Meanwhile, I really hoped "The Decision" would mark the end of this nonsense, but just to reiterate: doubt every source, know that every outlet has an agenda (mine is to molest all of you), and remember that it behooves the national media to drive you crazy. Don't let them.

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Damn It's A Tough Choice

Part of me wants them to give up whatever it takes to get Melo, part of me wants them to keep Gallo no matter what. But all of me wants to go back to the good old days where the rumor mill only churned for a couple of days before moves went down.

by TheRealKingFish on Aug 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Gallo???

Michael Kay’s a tool, so I can’t take what he says seriously.

Bonita Applebum, you gotta put me on.

by King Henry the 2nd on Aug 17, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Michael Kay

had a sit down with Isiah for about an hour one day last week. Thomas was supposed to do an hour or two of him just answering questions and even taking phone calls. He supposedly was contacted by the Knicks and convinced to go back on his word, so he did not go live on the air.

Michael Kay did say that IT talked very frank and they spoke of many things, non of which were ‘on the record’.

Does all that mean anything? I don’t know, but I wish IT would have come on the air and receive the ultimate bashing… sighs.

by mdid on Aug 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then who is?

Seriously. Who in the league is?

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Aug 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

tom haberstroh, from espn:

“So after stripping out the inflationary effect of fast pace and boiling down Anthony’s numbers to a per possession level, his scoring punch looks even more pedestrian. How pedestrian? Anthony’s career offensive rating, an efficiency measure that calculates how many points a player produces per 100 possessions he uses, checks out at 107, which sits right at the league average.”

besides, he isnt a good enough shooter to play for d’antoni

by thePharcyde on Aug 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Good Enough Shooter?!?!?!

Are you kidding me?

Melo isn’t a “Peja” spot up shooter…. He is a GAME CHANGER, i say again: GAME CHANGER….. PLAY MAKER…

You give the ball to Melo on the wing….. HE WILL CREATE!!!! You can guarantee that…..

Now, put him in an offense with a TRUE FINISHER around the basket, Amare, now you will see what kind of “dimes” Melo can dish out when he is driving to the basket. You give Melo an open jumper, he will knock them down CONSISTANTLY!!!!

If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!

by MrWilliams on Aug 17, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOUD NOISES

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Aug 17, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, there is

stop with all of this per possession, offensive rating nonsense. You know what the old timers, people like my grandpa, used before all this saber metrics shit? there eyes! And my eyes, from watching 48 minutes of ball, tell me that Melo is the truth! as anthony bonners subpoena asked, if he’s not a max player, then who is? and please tell me why YOU think they are, not why tom haberstroh thinks they are.

IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!

by wilddre22 on Aug 19, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That stat is nonsense

and ESPN cherry picks like crazy. fuck them.

by The Rooster on Aug 19, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gallo for Melo in a sign and trade? Done.

Why wait and risk losing him altogether? Gallo at his pinnacle probably won’t be as good as Melo will be for the next 5-6 years. This is a no brainer.

Yes, I would love to have my cake and eat it too and keep everybody. But thats a risky proposition if you can get Melo now vs not getting him later and Gallo not developing the way we thought.

Yeah, if we had inside info which strongly suggests he wants to come here, then wait. But barring that, pull the trigger now.

by Crackback on Aug 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Assuming Curry is unloaded in the deal, are the numbers that far off?

by Crackback on Aug 17, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

curry is unloaded no matter what

at the end of the season

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 17, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Curry unloading

<follow me @theinfamousazad

by zlander on Aug 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and

the point is to try to win, not just to get a super star. if we can keep danillo and get mello we would be much better

by mdid on Aug 17, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Denver want Randolph instead of Gallo?

I believe its more realistic that Randolph is farther out than Gallo is in the trade for Melo…..

I think Gallo fits better in the D’Antoni game than Randolph does…. and i believe D’Antoni knows this……

First and foremost….. D’Antoni has “PULL” within the players community… all players love D’Antoni’s style… especially Melo…. And D’Antoni loves Gallo….. didn’t Gallo’s father and him play in Italy together?

And I do believe Denver has more eyes on Randolph instead of Gallo.

If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!

by MrWilliams on Aug 17, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my thinking too

But if you get Carmelo, you’d probably want to offload Gallo. Not saying they can’t work together, but it’d be much simpler with Randolph than Gallo in the system.

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Aug 18, 2010 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

we would all sport some bone

if this were to acctually happen, even they gave away our cock =[

by mdid on Aug 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

clarification

Even if the Knicks were to trade our beloved Danillo away, I think we would still embrace Mello. Especially if he wants to come.

by mdid on Aug 17, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

our genitals also want to come

by Clyde1970 on Aug 17, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our genitals are already here and always will be

more or less. It would be Melo who will be bringing his genitals to The Big Apple. And what a fine set of genitals they will be. I would hope that somehow we find a way to keep our Cock.

by bobzillla on Aug 18, 2010 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent points Seth.

They just love to keep everything churning.

I want to see this current squad do it’s thang. Pulling in a piece like Mello later on maybe, but let’s see how the stew tastes first (or some other Grandmaesque saying).

There is the other side of the coin where the front office may want another very marketable top drawer star to pull the ‘fans’ in.

But the waiting game is the game to play. In Donnie We Trust.

EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...

by UK Knick on Aug 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course this could all be part of a new horror

THE CURSE OF THE P&T SHIRT!!!!!!!

(yanks small children into house from front proch)

EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...

by UK Knick on Aug 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

or even ‘front porch’

EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...

by UK Knick on Aug 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knicks gotta get this done now!

Melo and Stat this season would be great! C Ya Gallo. As exciting our current squad is… its not a championship contender. Donnie has done a tremendous job acquiring assets so we can make a move such as this. Melo and Stat would be a great 1-2 tandem of what should have been with Patrick Ewing and Bernard King of the the old days…I don’t care what ESPN says about the kind of player Carmelo is and worth…. I don’t give a damn. Carmelo is a special talent. A guy that has brought his team to the playoffs every year since he has been in this league. For all of you who did not want to see David Lee go (As well as myself) but the fact is with Amare, The knicks has become a destination. With Melo it will be even more.

by niv on Aug 17, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

but

ewing and king played d

by mdid on Aug 17, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Ewing did at least.

by fuhry on Aug 17, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've decided I don't want 'Melo

Not that he isn’t talented, but I think Gallo can give you 75% of what ‘Melo can, and it isn’t worth giving up the Curry trade chip and a first round pick for the remaining 25%. I’d much rather have CP3 or Deron Williams; the potential ’Melo trade strips all the chips needed for CP3 (not that I think he is coming, but the worst scenario is Curry comes off the books and we have flexibility under the cap).

by TwoNuse on Aug 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep

How much better does Melo make us in place of Gallo? I obviously know he makes us better. – so don’t go there.

But is Melo’s value above Gallo > Gallo + Curry’s expiring + 1st Round Pick? I dunno. But at this point before the season has even started with all of our new shiny pieces I’m anxious to see… I’d lean no.

Put another way… is Melo > Gallo + $13M ish player (or combo of players) + future 1st round pick? Again… I say no.

My opinion.

by Zhantee on Aug 17, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This kind of thinking builds 45-win teams

Risk-averse GMs get killed over and over and over

by The Rooster on Aug 19, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So do GM's that think

You just need to throw a bunch of offensive powerhouses together.

Garnett came to the Celtics with an attitude that he was going to play D and he was going to make sure his teammates played D.

Can Carmelo do that?

by fuhry on Aug 19, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gallo Will Still Be a KNICK If Melo is Traded!!!

The Nuggets now know Melo isn’t going to stay in Denver…. AND ALL THE OTHER 30 teams in the NBA know that Melo is going to leave for New York in 1 year…..

So no other team is going to trade for a one year rental that will walk his butt to New York next summer…..

The Knicks do NOT, DO NOT, have to give up Gallo for Melo….. Gallo and Melo seem like they will complement each others games very well….. I can also see Randolph being shipped off to Denver for Melo…..

I think we could see Chandler, Azu and Randolph being shipped off to Denver for Melo WAY BEFORE the Knicks ship off Gallo.

If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!

by MrWilliams on Aug 17, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nobody "knows" he's coming here

It’s all speculation. Remember the night before the Decision? We all thought LeBron was coming here too, even ESPN thought so, before somebody said Miami. He’d probably play in any other team that has a shot at a championship too.

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Aug 18, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

your starting

to sound like Homer.. I mean, i like they guy and all, but lets keep that to tha Simpsons homie.

Don’t be so quick to believe all the sources out there… SOURCES = FRIENDS. So whenever you see the word sources substitute that with friends and see if the article still sounds so sure of itself

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Endless speculation...

First it was The Decision, then Paul, then it was Melo, who’s next?

I just want the season to start. This is obnoxious.

by 100% dundee on Aug 17, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Word. (x 1,000,000)

EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...

by UK Knick on Aug 17, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 17, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't the Knicks already have someone like him in...Gallo

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy

by 27Tango on Aug 20, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Melo

No one on here wanted the cp3 trades to go through because we all said melo will fit better in the system.

Now we can get melo and you don’t want to get a top 10 player in the league because we don’t want to give up what might be a white rashard lewis at his absolute best.

We got this sick freakishly athletic lamar odom type dude who would mesh better with melo than having another high volume shooter like that white rashard lewis dude, but we don’t want to keep him.

I’m just making sure we’re all on the same page.

Also, we get melo we win 50+ games this year…

Ya dig?

by James Angelo on Aug 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't want to speak for anyone else...

but I couldn’t be drunk enough to think that Melo is a better fit for the Knicks system then CP3. I don’t think my german shephard would follow through with that shit.

The only way Melo makes sense over Cp3 is cuz Melo can essentially cost “nothing” as a FA.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 17, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But if you can get Melo now

You get Melo now, instead of waiting on CP3. At least that’s my thinking behind it. You don’t know if CP3 wants to come here, but if Melo says he does, you pull the trigger (if the deal is good, obviously).

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Aug 18, 2010 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think most here would prefer CP3 instead of Melo

I just like what Gallo brings to the table in the SSOL system. Does Melo fit better? I am not sure.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 17, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melo is going to Miami.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 18, 2010 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

gallo over AR

most definately

we lose gallo then who is the shooter in the lineup? AR would bring athleticism and slashing ability..but that is what melo has. I know either pairing would be great. But melo drives to kick out to AR for the shot? Not happening.

To add… if melo really wants new york..and wants ny to be great…why not wait and sign as a free agent. Instead of decreasing your future teams talent by making a early unecessary trade.

ALSO.. all this 3 star talk.. I dont even think that is an option here. We will get the best two stars for this team… we have amare… now its either melo or cp3(or DWill). I say we wont get all 3 b/c this isnt miami…these guys arent trying to take less to stay here.. and i doubt 2 guys will take less while amare is already gettin max gwap.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 point shooting is easy to replace

6’11 dudes who can run, jump and handle like SGs while rebounding and blocking shots like PF/Cs… come along once very, very rarely. If all we’re using Gallo for is to get kick-outs from Melo and Stat, we could get any number of guys to that.

by flossy on Aug 18, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

but dont ride to hard on AR yet.. he can handle in open floor well for a PF sized player..but is known to be oc wit the ball an causes lots of turnovers… i am as excited to have him as the next knick..but he what he as actually done and shown in this league hasnt lived up to what gallo has done yet. and they were drafted in the same year.

a athletic big and a stretch 3/4 are both commodities

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you Seth

This makes me grumpy.

I think the reason is that I’m very excited about Randolph, and still very excited about Gallo playing with Felton and without Harrington. Very much looking forward to seeing what happens there.

And…. I"m not convinced that Melo is on a Kobe / LeBron level. I don’t see that fire in his eye.

I might be crazy and stupid and it might make sense…… but I think it would be sad. I just really want to see this team play.

by fuhry on Aug 17, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

eh...don't underrate Melo

I ain’t saying go all out for him, but he’s never played with a big man like Amar’e. Kobe and Wade never won anything before they had an Amare caliber Big dude (and no, Nene, Kmart, Joel Anthony or Marcus Camby aren’t at that level).

Amare is an elite big dude. Ray Felton may be the next Chauncey Billups, and of course I doubt that both of our 2 big pawed pups are gonna be gone.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let the season begin

Then let’s play some games. Let’s see how good our guys are (or aren’t). Let’s see how they respond to MDA’s system, which has a history of having middle-of-the-road players deliver spectacular results. Everybody’s trade value goes up if the Knicks win, so a deal that might cost us Gallinari in August might be possible with Chandler in January.

Let’s admit the truth: we’re bored, and at the same time we’re excited, which might explain Seth’s preoccupation with our genitals. Let’s stop this speculation… although… the fantasy that we can get Melo without giving up Gallo, which would mean a lineup of Felton, Melo, Gallo, Amare, and Timmah / Ronny / Jerome / etc is slightly beyond intoxicating, moving dangerously close to the realm of spank bank worthy excitement. Uhm, in a manly way.

Still… Let’s win some games. If necessary, let’s discuss this in February at the trading deadline.

Until then… just throwing it out there… could AR start at SG?

I.e., a starting line-up of Felton, AR, Gallo, Amare, SeveralTallDudes? Just because AR is tall doesn’t mean he MUST play inside, and we’d have a huge mismatch every night at the 2. Strong team defensively, really strong offensively, as long as either Gallo or AR has a decent handle, or the other team doesn’t press..

I digress. Would dearly love to have Melo, but not before the season opens. And I doubt Den will consider trading him much before Feb.

by AtlKnicksFan on Aug 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Randolph at SG?

I kind of doubt it. I think he’ll end up getting major minutes at the 5, maybe even starting as the season progresses. I say this because Pringles has no problem playing “centers” but hates playing SGs who can’t shoot the 3.

by flossy on Aug 17, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But if they're offering him now

Which means they’d want to trade him before the season starts, then you want to inquire. Denver isn’t waiting on us to make an offer.

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Aug 18, 2010 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

give it some time to roost

seth, right on with the desire to see this engine hum…first.
why would dw give up anything at this point.
fact is ca wants to be here so we appear to be in a good negotiating position.
So dw knows there is a high % that it costs almost nothing next year.
come mid jan/feb. that’s a different story.
a pre-new cba s&t deal can be struck at that time if it looks right.
at that point, denver will probably have a desire to get something back.
dw will be willing to part with some assets to keep his cap in check for ca’s new deal.
dw can be patient for now.
p.s. on the floor, ca shows the kobe killer factor at the END of games.
and he was the man for a ncaa championship and that means something.
and you definitely need some time to sell some il gallo tees!

by knicks613 on Aug 17, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's look at some pros and cons.

Positives in trading for Carmelo Anthony:
- We turn our team into one of questionable success to one of definite success
- We get a definite #1 scorer and turn Amar’e Stoudemire into one of the best secondary scorers in the game
- We lock up two players for the next four or five years that will attract lower-salary free agents (perhaps most important)

Negatives in trading for Carmelo Anthony:
- We have substantially fewer chips to play with during free agency next year
- We are hearkened back to the days of Isiah Thomas, during which cap flexibility was put on the back-burner
- We (presumably) lose not only our lottery pick of two years ago, but a future (albeit presumably low) first-rounder
- We draw more attention from the media (Never good)

There are more for each side, I’m sure. But the question I have is:
Why get rid of a promising player who is a relative infant in this league for one you can get anyway? It does not make sense to trade away our largest assets for a player who we could probably sign next year anyway. Think about it this way: If we trade for him and we do not win the title this year, we have given up Gallinari and that pick for virtually nothing.

As a footnote: Just like Chris Paul, if the Nuggets decide definitively to trade Anthony, there will be 28 teams in the NBA besides the Knicks going after him. The odds that we have the best deal are very slim. I know this is offset somewhat by the possibility of an extend-and-trade (which I’m not even 100% is a real thing), but why not wait until next year? If he wants to come to New York so badly, let him wait a little while and do this thing the right way.

by Osborn on Aug 17, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

pros and cons

(or as i like to refer to them, “prostitutes” and" Converses"). The problem with jumping a deal for Melo is you have to overpay for something (that’s the New York way) you can get for free if you’re patient (see “prostitutes” infra). In addition, if AR and Gallo blow up, you won’t want to trade either of them for Melo. So of course, it pays to wait. And if AR and Gallo blow up, they score Converse contracts.

by Clyde1970 on Aug 17, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly what ive been saying

If..and this is if, melo wants the knicks particularly why get into a bidding war witht the rest of the league? I would like melo just like any other team, fan , gm…but if hes a free agent next summer and doesnt demand a sign and trade. Why the hell give up prospects if we wait 1 year to get him for free

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does no one remember Gallo in the Denver game?

He took that game over, right in Melo’s face.

I’d trade anyone but Gallo for Melo.

by NCKnicks on Aug 17, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

He guarded Melo.

After the game, Melo told him he’s going to be a great player and to keep working his ass off.

Carmelo would probably be pissed off if we traded away Gallo, even if it brought him to New York.
Irony.

by Osborn on Aug 17, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again-the new model in lineup construction-wait for the FA, instead of gutting your roster to acquire talent.
Stick to the plan, Donnie!

by Clyde1970 on Aug 17, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

tru dat

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Aug 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad to kno

that donnie thinks with logic rather than wit dolans pocket

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

id rather trade randolph than gallo

because with teams having to guard melo and amare
gallo will be getting all the open 3s in the world
and he would be hitting them
while randolph is not much of a shooter

by noonyp6 on Aug 17, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What may be happening is that Melo is becoming impatient and wants his jump off now. Reasons: (a) CBA expiring; (b) no time like the present; © attention span of 7 seconds or less.

Denver (and Melo himself) may be so anxious-another reason to lie in wait. And with all the time we have waited for a good team, why match their impatience and give up ANY chips (AR, Gallo, etc.) easily? And why do I think the same thing is happening in NO with CP3? Change “build it and they will come” to “tear down (and hoard cap space) and they will come”.

by Clyde1970 on Aug 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Gallo?

Be real. The Rooster shows some promise, but he really won’t ever be more than a decent sixth man.

by chin8tao on Aug 17, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm for trading Gallo

But that’s just wrong. He’ll probably be an All-Star in a couple of years. He’s already a decent sixth man…on any team.

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Aug 18, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

arguement

isnt that gallo is better than melo… the things is what is the best strategic way to bring in melo while keeping talent on your roster

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

TradScrew that

Give up azikuike ar and curry..i think that should be more than enough for melo, considering he won’t resign anyway…and then its like we traded lee for melo

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by zlander on Aug 18, 2010 11:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I hear ya

but ya can’t use the argument of it bein’ like tradin’ Lee for Melo. We already have the guys in exchange for Lee, so work with their OWN values. What you’re basically sayin’ there is something like if we had traded Duhon for CP3… and then CP3 for Felton…. and then sayin’ “it’s ok, it’s like we traded Duhon for Felton”. Gotta live in the now.

Let’s not trade anyone and stick with the value we have for now please.

by Zhantee on Aug 18, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

B.S Media Spin Again!

I don’t know what to believe any more, but i’m going to stop getting excited and depressed about all these rumors. Its a roller coaster ride. Twice was enough with Lebron and CP3…. Can’t take it any more! Basically the only time i’ll get excited about a rumor is when the player is actually in Blue and Orange. SI just reported that Melo would be open to approve a sign and trade to either Houston or Nets, while NY being the first option. If this is the case, then you can kiss Melo and eventually CP3 to ever come play in NY. IMO Most likely, CP3 would go where ever Melo is going. Melo will be important for those of you who wish to have CP3. My point is folks.. Gallo or Whom ever Denver wants…. The Knicks have to get this done. The current squade will not be enough to battle with the likes of Miami, Chicago and Boston. If we don’t get this done and Melo gets traded to a team on his list, Then we would not have to wait next year because Melo won’t be available for free agency and we will have missed the boat entirely for good for Melo and CP3. The only new guy will be Tony Parker. He will be great to have but with a squad of Parker, Chandler, Gallo, Stat and AR will not bring the Knicks to the promise land. They will certainly be entertaining and i could be happy with that. My message to Melo is…. If you want to be a Knick and have leverage.. Don’t expand your list and keep it simple with NY. If Denver won’t trade you this year…Please try and play it out for next season. Eventually you can come back home.

by niv on Aug 18, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah!

Getting rid of a backup PF name D.Gallinari in a trade for Carmelo Anthony is a no brainer.
“Bye-Bye Gallinari”

by Dziedzic on Aug 18, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes Do It Already!

Trade D.Gallinari/E.Curry + #1 for C.Anthony. Then we wait on F/A after this season to get D.Williams of Utah. We don’t C.Paul or T.Parker.

by Dziedzic on Aug 18, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cock Sucks

…compared to Melo. Do it! Do it now! Donny will figure out CP3 when the time comes. In this case a cock in the hand is definitely worth less than the two in the bush.

by bobzillla on Aug 18, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Would Melo and Stat take pay cuts to accommodate CP3

and form Super Team 1A? Am I naive to think this is possible?
If Melo comes to the Knicks will there be a section at the Garden for his friends and family called “Lala Land?”
If Turiaf goes as part of the deal does this make Timah Moskowtz the luckiest big dude in the NBA?
Important decisions will have to be made before Isiah returns.
We have work to do my friends.

by bobzillla on Aug 19, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

It's impossible

as in, it’s impossible according to NBA rules. Amare can’t renegotiate his contract.

by The Rooster on Aug 19, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about a buyout?

Didn’t they do that with Marbury?

by bobzillla on Aug 19, 2010 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

preference

If the knicks can get this done giving up Chandler I’d jump at it.

If its Gallinari.. I’d think about it but would still do it.

Other than the fact that I believe Gallinari is the player with the bigger upside there is also this:

Reason being D’antoni’s system will need some spot up shooters on the perimeter and Gallinari fills that role much better than Chandler.

Also since the knicks really do not have a true starting 2 that i like (sorry Azubuike and Mason.. I’d have to see you play more to change my mind) … I could get used to the idea idea of having a 6’10 shooter over a 6’8 slasher playing the 2 alongside Anthony on the wing and Stoudemire in the post.

But ultimately the reason I would give either of them up is that they are both suited to play the 3 which is where Anthony would get most of the minutes anyway. But possibly one can play the 2 and the other the 3.

As they say a wing is a wing so maybe they can coexist…ask Curry he eats both (sorry.. obligatory Curry joke.)

by SJComic on Aug 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep Gallo

Get cmello way more then LeBron i want mello on knicks ive loved mello ever since he spinned up lbj but dont rid of gallo i see gallo and mello and stoudy wearing championship rings some day wait till free agency

by Yankeefan84 on Aug 31, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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