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Morning, tadpoles. I know I just shared some mammals and links yesterday, but I'm doing it again, y'all. More mammals, more links. You're crazy for this one, Seth.

Jump for my love.

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- A grizzled giant squirrel is a squirrel that is larger and more grizzled than its peers.

- Alan Hahn has been holding court on Twitter this morning, and he twat the following about a Knick who's been tough to find this offseason:

From what I understand, Eddy Curry hasn't been at the MSG Training Center since late June.

@Mritakepictures Actually, the fact that I haven't heard anything - ANYTHING - about Eddy Curry since early July is a serious concern.

Eerie stuff, particularly since we're used to Eddy being pretty conspicuous in the summertime.

- Dan Miranda of the up-and-coming blog Knicks Vision showed up at my house last week in an old white van. He invited me to join him in the van, but I objected because I'm not supposed to talk to strangers. But then he offered me cotton candy, and I asked him if he had blue cotton candy, and he said yes, so I joined him in the van because I love blue. Then he tied me up and interviewed me. It was a harrowing experience, but at least I got some cotton candy!

- Brian Cronin's terrific "Unsung Knicks History" series at Knickerblogger continues with a tribute to a particular mid- 90s game of smallball. Don Nelson was obviously involved. Definitely click that link if you were a Gary Grant fan, and really, who wasn't a Gary Grant fan?

- The state income tax rears its ugly head again as the Carmelo Anthony storyline gets staler by the day.

- From that same article:

The Knicks' roster now has 14 players and they could fit center Earl Barron, who had a strong finish with the team.

The Knicks had interest in Barron, but Knicks president Donnie Walsh, according to a source, has not heard recently from the Barron camp and isn't sure what his future is.

"I think we're done," a team source said.

- Read:

 I've never understood why anyone would want to play for the Knicks; no matter who they hire, the team is still owned by James Dolan. That's why "it's New York", or "Madison Square is the Mecca" are such selling points -- and so laughable. Houston, while it offers its share of nightlife, also has a legit basketball organization there. In other words, there are real basketball reasons to relocate down there.

Now everybody grab your pitchforks and GO ATTACK BETHLEHEM SHOALS!

- Woody Allen has become a pretty rare spotting at Knicks games, and it sounds he's considering a permanent departure from our fair city.

- I think that last bullet gives me an excuse to link to this.

Those are the links. More later, you pretty things.

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A grizzled giant squirrel is a squirrel that is larger and more grizzled than its peers.

AKA Ronny Turiaf

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 25, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

no Dudu

grew up with flying squirrels in the yard. Dog used to try to creep up on them…they’d wait til she was about 5 feet away and bolt up the tree. Never got closer than a foot from those tails…then they’d sit up there and chatter away and fuss at her and throw hulls from the pecans or acorns at her.

"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein

by Olbrannon on Aug 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait MSG isn't the Basketball Mecca?

Players wont demand trades to the knicks and bitch until they get traded to us? THAT WAS MY WHOLE PLAN FOR BUILDING A NEW TEAM! Because clearly that is what all knicks fans think, that the way we will win is by signing superstars to the vet’s minimum because they want to play at the mecca.

Seth, I thinking Bethlehem Shoals misunderestimates our dumbedness.

by revans on Aug 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

You either love New York

or you hate it. That’s why I’m so proud to be a New Yorker. I rather have people hate us then love us. I only care what Knick fans think. Everyone else can suck it. If someone wants to go play in Houston that’s fine with me, bring your cowboy hat and spurred boots, there’s a rodeo tonight. In all fairness to Houston, it understand its a nice city to be in and all but Texas just isn’t my thing. To be confined in one place would become redundant. I’d be confined because I have no interest with anything “Texas”. Why am I ranting?

"You're like that old, beat down restaurant with the dirty bathrooms, weird customers and foul odor, I'm like that new shiny restaurant across the street with the bright neon lights, fishes in the floor and 2nd floor gymnasium. Why don't I have any customers?!"

by MikeTheIntern on Aug 25, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know

I was born and raised a stone’s throw from the Garden, but I live in Austin, Texas now. Austin is a pretty cool place, quirky, artistic, unique, but it’s damn hot. Houston is even hotter, more humid, and it’s got awful air quality to boot, and though it has its charms, it’s a much more conservative place.

I’ve lived in a bunch of different places and they all have their charms. But Houston isn’t exactly a place people say “ooh – I want to live in Houston!” People say that about New York, LA, San Francisco, New Orleans, Miami maybe, Chicago maybe. Maybe players think the Rockets have a great organization, but Houston as a destination? Sounds like another anti-New Yorker having a fantasy.

by fuhry on Aug 25, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

im with you

Austin… yes.

Houston… its like saying a strip mall is a hot destination.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 25, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your overlooking the most attractive part of playing in Houston.

Chinese endorsement money. Heck even Chuck Hayes has a shoe deal in China. I’m not over here to hate or anything, but financially Houston makes a lot more sense then New York.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 25, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 25, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I wasnt aware a billion people lived in New York.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 25, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

That sig still makes me laugh.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the thought that finalncially makes more sense then houston because of China

First off, Yao is a question mark in terms of health, and has 1 year remaining on his contract (there may be some options… you would know better then I). So for Melo to attach himself to houston because of Yao (who is really the only reason China has any interest in Houston) would be a bad financial decision.

second, just because the best player from china is on the team doesnt mean Melo would be the most popular player there. It will help a little I am sure, but its not as if he is going to replace Yao in the hearts and minds of a billion people. If anything he will be known as Yao’s sidekick… or worse, replacement.

Plus the fact that NYC is much better financially in every other aspect. Its the marketing capitol of the world, and his wife will do significantly better financially living here, which would add to their group earnings… If she moved to Houston she should basically just retire.

I have been to Houston a few times, and it never struck me as a great nightlife town. Austin? Hell yeah. Houston? Eh. I am not saying there is nothing to do, but in comparison to NYC… its like a ghost town.

I would also raise the point that there are transplanted NYers all over the world, and NYC tends to have fans everywhere. If the knicks were to get Melo and go on a great run agaist the heat, the NYK logo would be a huge hit in all of Europe (dont forget that Italian marketing money) and most of South America. Texas is not really known around the world for being a kind city to foreigners… so except for Yao and the Chinese… there really isnt much global opportunity there.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houstonian here just thought I'd give a rebuttal

I was born and raised in Houston, so I guess I’ll take everything you guys said one at a time.

As far as the heat goes, yes, it is indeed very hot here in Houston, however, that’s really only in summer and autumn. We have really nice winters and springs that end up being really cool rather than driving cold. I’d also point out that I believe New York has spent the last several months in the midst of a brutal heat wave that has yet to really end. Not to mention New Yorkers also have to deal with the previously mentioned driving, bone chilling cold in their winters. Just saying, weather isn’t really advantage for you guys.

You also mention our air quality, which is admittedly not the best, but I’d hardly say New York is some beautiful naturally wooded area where you breathe nothing but the freshest air. It’s a big city. A really big city. I think the air in Houston and New York is probably about the same.

The idea that Houston is confining in one place, well, we’re one of the larger cities in America with a population of 4 million and counting. You say that all we do is have rodeos and dress like cowboys, but Houston is actually an urban center. It’s true, many of us Texans do own cowboys hats, boots, and in some cases spurs, but the rodeo only goes on for one month down here, which is when we put the aforementioned accessories. New York’s nightlife is probably better than Houston’s, but I’d hardly say that there is nothing to do down here.

On the economic side of things, Texas doesn’t have a state income tax, and for the most part, our cost of living (esp. in Houston) is incredibly low by national standards. Texas was not really hit as hard as many other places by the recession, so I think that there are a lot of common sense reasons to move down here.

I’m not going to get into the potential basketball reasons that it makes sense to want to come to Houston, but I just thought that I’d kind of defend my city. Sorry that I wrote this entire like, brochure about Houston, but I wanted to correct what I felt were inaccuracies about my home. I love Houston, but I also love New York. My sister lives there, and I think it’s great, but I hate when New Yorkers rag on other places as if there is nowhere else in the world that’s worth living. Thank you, that is all.

All these boundaries - Africa, Asia, Malaysia, America - are set by men. But you don't have to look at boundaries when you are looking at a man - at the character of a man. The question is: What do you stand for? Are you a follower, or are you a leader? -Hakeem Olajuwon

by SlatonShuffle on Aug 25, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your defense!

And i do kinda chuckle when you say “New Yorkers rag on other places as if there is nowhere else in the world that’s worth living.”

I love being a NYer, but yeah, we do have a little bit of swagger about us, don’t we :-)

Nothin against Houston, but it is fun to make silly comparisons between things isn’t it?!

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Aug 26, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never been to New York,

which is a little pathetic when you consider my intense Knicks fandom. So where I can’t speak for NYC as a destination, I can speak for Dallas and Houston. They’re both hot as balls. And humid. You can find things to do around Dallas, and to a lesser extent Houston, but I would never imagine the cities themselves being selling points for free agents.

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Aug 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww, this is nice:
Felton is a ray of light for the Knicks

Step aside for a moment, Carmelo — there’s an actual Knick who deserves some headline shine. For the past 15 years or so, the Knicks have had a reliable (Charlie Ward) or semi-reliable point guard (Stephon Marbury). Some were on their way out (Doc Rivers) and others, for most likely no other reason than by default, became the pg (Howard Eisley). Finally, the Knicks may have their best point man yet in Raymond Felton, who’s only 26, can shoot (45.9% last season) and is the fastest of them all by far. And, best yet, he arrives with no previous off-the-court issues, which is the last thing the Knicks need, especially in Marbury’s wake. Even beyond the Knicks, Felton has the chance to join the pantheon of New York City’s great point guards, from the playgrounds to Madison Square Garden.

Nice to see Raymond getting some respect. And from ESPN, no less! So eat it, Kelly Dwyer.

by flossy on Aug 25, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

before starbury went off the deep end

he was actually very good, everyone seems to forget that.

First year with the knicks (03-04): 19.8 PPG, 9.3 APG
2nd Year (04-05): 21.7 PPG, 8.1 APG

he’s by far the best PG we’ve had in a long time. Starbury from 03-05 was way better than anyone could project Felton to be.

Chris Paul’s best year was 2 points and 2 assists better than starbury’s first year with the knicks, and paul is probably the best PG of the decade.

by jayvb on Aug 25, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously i realize

that he’s one of the biggest reasons this franchise has been a league-wide joke for the last 5 years, but the best 2 years for a knicks PG since frazier was Starbury in 03-05.

by jayvb on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He piled up points and assists, yes

I’ll take the Wards/Childs combo, or Mark Jackson for sure, in terms of the complete, both sides of the ball, leadership equation.

by fuhry on Aug 25, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally

Without a doubt he was crazy talented. But you can’t hurt a team that much and still be considered great. I would trade his 20 and nine for 15 and 7 from a PG who isn’t a cancer.

No leadership skills = not a great PG IMO no matter how gaudy your stats.

by flossy on Aug 25, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marbury's numbers are one thing

the fact he’s a team cancer is another. He’ll always get his numbers. But the teams he plays on will always suck.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 25, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that stuff about the cotton candy was hilarious

by thePharcyde on Aug 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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