They can't have Gallo or Randolph right?

will have to be included in the deal.

Your a moron!

“the only three teams that gives anthony any chance in the next 5 yrs is the thunder, lakers, celtics and knicks”

You know the Seventh Seed in the Playoffs doesn’t count as a championship right?

Even with Anthony. (Which is not going to happen), the Knicks are still the Second team in the East. There is no way that they would beat the Miami big three

Im not trying to rain on your parade, but a third team would be needed if the Knicks were to get Anthony, and why would that team trade players to the Knicks who they send to Denver, when that team (say Houston) could trade for Melo and leave the Knicks out in the cold (where they have been for a long time)

have td run the point fuck it

i’d rather keep the sharp shooter, a rare talent like AR is hard to find but not replaceable. plus ive seen gallo play ar hardly got off the bench im sorry but i dont fall in love wit players i dont see play

its reality. it actually is helpful because at least the nuggets will get sumthin in return. shit if i was anthony i’d use my contract as leverage to go straight to the knicks because he has the power to sign on the dotted line no one else. to be honest we’re prolly the only team besides okc that can compete for the next 6 or 7 years with the roster we have now. if the nuggets were smart they would take ar, td and wilson and a 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders and say thanks melo

the nuggets have no leverage and honestly behind amare gallo is the second best, i doubt melo didnt notice that. and i agree i’d entertain it but im sorry melo holds to much leverage, if donnie is the man i think he is he wont trade the young man. AR on the other hand shit i dont care about no advanced stats, he’s fragile as fuck and im not into waiting years if we can get melo now and make that run plus in any deal the nuggets are goin to have to take eddy curry anyway

I actually agree with Crackback…

Well he’s right. I’ve been telling everyone there is no “Waiting” to the offseason and signing Melo. He wants his money and he wants out of Denver so you have to sign and trade. It that simple. Wherever Melo wants to go that’s who Denver has to trade with, if they don’t they get nothing.

There is no need to be getting scared and start writing off our Melo fantasies. If you had faith Melo wants to be here before, this shouldn’t change your opinion one bit. If he wants to be here, he’ll demand a trade here, if they don’t want to trade him here, EVEN BETTER! We get him during the offseason. Hopefully Denver is stubborn and don’t trade him here and lets him hold them hostage all season.

Another thing to realize about this article… Look who wrote it. Of course he isn’t going to give the Knicks credit, he never did never will. I could care less if he thinks we have no young pieces to trade. Its funny because we have one of the youngest team in the league yet we have no young pieces? Its laughable. Lets not overreact on this. If he wants to be here he’ll come.

at least u understand wat ive been tryna tell ppl for weeks. melo is the driver in this one. the nuggets could be stubborn but then theyd get nothing. another team can trade for melo but theyd be gettin a rental for their young pieces.

if we dont acquire meko, then we still got the cap room for other potential big moves.. yea melo is a big upgrade, but its not the end of the world to have gallo as our starting sf.

dwill and cp3 are still in the near future.

id keep gallo tho, and offer a package around ar and curry and chandler.

And while there are no guarantees, obviously, we have yet to see how AR plays on this team and he is by many accounts, a wildly talented kid who has already shown some terrific talent in limited minutes.

Gallo is not much different other than we have seen an entire season of him now.

But look, the thing is, while both of these players don’t have to be untouchable…. we are right to covet such young talent.

I’m not trying to make any comparisons here, but go look at the first 3 years of Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant. Garnett started putting up solid numbers in his 2nd full season (20 yrs old) but really started to come in in his 3rd-4th years and such. Kobe didn’t do shit in his 1st 2 seasons, and it wasn’t until his 4th year (22 yrs old) that his scoring avg surpassing 20ppg(22.5). Kobes 5TH year was when he really blossomed too.

Again, I’m not saying we have the next KG and Kobe, but they are excellent examples of guys with superb talent that needed time to grow. And more importantly, they started takign significant strides when they were 21years old. Interestingly, Gallo’s career has followed KGs in terms of playing time, and AR does as well though a big part of him not playing was an injury last year.

We aren’t wrong to put a high value on these two guys. Really. And we are also not the only ones who think Gallinari is an excellent player. Yes, we believe so MORE than others, but we aren’t blindly believing in him at all.

trading players like Gallinari or AR(though personally I’d make an AR sacrifice) for Melo at this particular point in time is a bit like working countless hours of overtime and saving that money to purchase a new laptop or gaming system with top of the line features and blazing speed plus the ability to automate all your kitchen appliances to whip up a batch of brownies every hour on the hour if you so choose.

Can your current technology whip up brownies in an instant without any help…No, It doesn’t even have a high speed connection; it’s still uses dial up!

So you spend a hard earned 4 grand on a new super computer, is it awesome?…umm, did you not hear that it bakes brownies???

A solid investment, but 3 weeks later you learn an updated version of your super computer is coming out that has a beer dispenser attachment due for release this summer and so the price on your unit will be slashed down to just under 3 grand!!!

Is your super computer any worse? No, it does the same things and is much better than what you were working with b4 but you probably feel like an ass right now for paying 4 grand for something that will cost 3 in a couple of months.

If there was another year left on his deal and he wanted out no question, get it done. But now…I dunno. Not saying we shouldn’t but with him in his final year and free agency right there, I gotta think about it especially since Denver will want quality players in return. How many true quality players do we have?, how many can we afford to lose? and can we compete in the playoffs by trading all of them away for one Carmelo Anthony???

 If you have to think about any of those questions too long that’s reason enough to think twice about rushing into a deal and giving Denver whatever they want for Melo.

No one is denying Carmelo Anthony’s talent or the fact he could help this team. Maybe I’m out of place but I think the feeling is that while we would all welcome him, obtaining his services should be done in the most responsible manner as possible, the debate being which manner is in fact the most responsible.

either take a “lowball offer” (Chandler + Curry’s corpse + scraps) or wait till he’s a FA. I throw in the towel.

Or at least wait till the trading deadline, I wanna see this team in action first. No one knows a god damn thing about how this team will play yet.

And if Melo’s on another team before that…fuck em.

points 3 &4 agree 100 percent, however on point 4 with or without a new agreement I don’t know how far they’d go to keep both if they outperformed their current pay grade.

Point 1, Nuggets will take what they get and like it or get nothing. If Melo is serious on not signing, They’ll either end up with nothing like the Cavs or crawl back to the table like Toronto to only get a couple of not so great draft picks(which they were lucky to get because they didn’t have to get anything)

Point 2, most players take max money…Lebron is an exception, those guys in Boston another there are also a couple more including if I’m not mistaken but ur right the majority take the dough and run. For anyone to conclude from this that they definitely know what Melo will do obviously has not learned from the Lebron James drama. All it takes are a couple exceptions strung together before an exception becomes the norm. Everything is what it is until it is what it aint.

And point 5, It’s a risk either way whether we get him now or wait. If we get him now there is always the chance He doesn’t fit with the left over pieces, or maybe he does fit but it’s still not enough to get us to the playoffs let alone a finals. And the players we part with? Regardless of their numbers players of their skill and physical ability don’t grow on trees. And with alot less money to work with and fewer draft picks if Melo doesn’t deliver a chip right away( like he did with Denver…oh,wait!) then we are still stuck without the flexibility or luxury of being able to upgrade anytime soon, definately not in the 2-3 years everyone says Amare has left.

stern’s not stupid. a hard cap will put too many people out the league tho it will stop teams from doing the miami trio and help create parity it also would create competition in the form of oversea ballers. think about it. stay here and make 10mil a year or go to europe make 20mil a year and more with enodrsements. thinking about it from a business standpoint the hard cap helped create parity within the nhl but so many good market teams have fluttered ( rangers) and sum players rather stay in europe to play hockey. im not a hockey fan but i read enough about it to know they get paid much less the nba players which is a testament to the league popularity overall within the states. and the hard cap was only mentioned in the article, i dont think stern would use it. maybe he would do the franchise tag but that’ll be stupid too because teams dont carry much players so i’d consider it to be restricting to the players and i dont think stern would want the players to be mad because wat would the nba be without its players

is you don’t know what to make of our team. No one does.

Everyone who has 1/3 of a brain knows their improved, but to what extent? There’s a lot of unknown here, lot of young players. Lot of factors like…what does Amare do now that he’s the undisputed King Dick on his team?

The black hole that is Al Harrington, what does that do for players like Gallo and Chandler and DWTDD?

What about Felton? Speculation either says he’s gonna be the same or slightly better under Pringles…but who with a straight face can say they know 100% that’s true?

Melo’s a better player then all except for Amare on the team, yes. Him and Amare could make for a dynamic duo..ditto.

I’d rather see what we got first. If Melo gets traded to the Nets, Rockets or whoever in the meantime…I don’t give a shit. He signs the contract…oh well.

Anyone that simply says this team is automatically mediocre is simply flat out, talking out of their asshole. You don’t know what they can be. The Bucks came out of nowhere last year, why can’t that be the Knicks? They don’t have an Amare on that team either.

this is both’s third year.

I’ll mention this everywhere so hopefully its sticks, the Knicks are NOT a contender with or without Melo. Boom.

So, this year is a rebuilding year no matter what. Either they shoot their load and hope that Amare and Melo can build some chemistry with who’s ever left and then retool for 2011.

OR they can maintain cap flexibility, develop further the youngins when in 3rd years, many players show what they actually got.

Then if they need to, they can make a trade for someone who actually is someone who can make a team a lot better…like Chris Paul or Deron Williams.

because “sources” say a trade is imminent or he’ll sign his deal first? “Sources” also said Lebron would re-sign in Cleveland…wait….wait, no make that NY, no, no NJ…dammmit Chicago.

No one knows but Anthony, anything else is speculation. And if we even have pieces the Nuggets would accept it’s not certain Anthony would work with the left over pieces? Denver had a very talented team…better than we had last year,is that better than what we have this year? If so by how much? Again, speculation…It’s not even assured adding Melo will get us into the playoffs if we do get him.

On a personal level, would love to see Anthony here, not sure if it’s the smartest thing for the team to move on right now though even if we risk losing him later.

We’d give up cap space, probably at least two of our best players AND draft picks. That’s a bit much when you consider we haven’t much of any of those things over the last 5 yrs. And after all that Carmelo still doesn’t guarantee us a playoff spot…fuck that, a time machine and Michael Jordan circa 1992 doesn’t guarantee us a playoff spot.

If we even were able to keep or obtain a 1st rd pick I might be more so inclined to at least rethink this.

No guarantees obviously, but these pieces are in some shocking interestin places.

And it might just be that we wins games like the Thunder did last year. Does anyone think the Thunder are getting worse or better?

Hey so, ok, lets get both of them. Since Melo’s max is $22M, that $42M for 2 players…. this years salary cap is near 60M… so lets use that number… shit lets bump it to $65 next year. So we have our 2 big guns for $42, leaving us $23Mil for the other 13 players needed to fill a roster. Wait, ok, Add in Felton at his $8Mil and Timofeys $3M and we at least have 4 locked up for sure. The rest we can literally renounce or let expire. Just for arguments sake, that leaves us $12Mil to use on 11 more players.

The NBA salary cap isn’t MLBs so you can only go over it through exceptions, not signing FAs.
C’mon man, does it honestly look like we can put together a championship team with so little money leftover?

Yeah, $20Mil is a lot for ONE player (Amar’e). But TWO over $20?? Dude, even Miami’s big 3 are signed collectively for $47Mil. Thats only $5Mil MORE than us with Melo/Amar’e…. and they have THREE guys.

I agree!

whose in camp 3…personally i think i see both points i jus rather trade ar den gallo bkuz at least ive seen gallo start

that’d be nicer than a toothless prostitute going down on a diseased hobo while I watch anxiously from the bushes!

Good times!!!