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Putting D back in D-Fence: The Free Safety Effect plus more

It's a given that the offense is going to be all kinds of nasty this year, but I wanted to look at the most highly criticized part of the Knicks the past 2 years: Defense.  I'll be explaining the Free Safety Effect/Jared Jeffries Theory and have some more convoluted questions after the jump.

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Q: What is "The Free Safety Effect"?

In essence, it's the role that Jared Jeffries played well for us in the beginning of the year, "roaming the middle" as Seth put it in a lot of this past posts regarding D'Antoni's zone defense.  Then, after Jeffries got traded, we had a combination of Gallo/Chandler/Al Harrington/Dead body trying to take his place, but to not nearly the effect Jeffries had.  From a statistical perspective, 82games.com roster breakdowns seems to show that Jeffries was the glue that kept our defense afloat.

Here's where Anthony Randolph comes in.  I understand that we're all psyched to see him handle/shoot/dunk/block like a champ with all the the tools he has, but what I'm particularly excited for is his 'Free Safety' Role.  

AR doesn't have the same basketball IQ as Jeffries, but he has better physical tools then Jeffries.  Yes, Jeffries was very adapt at getting the charges and had hustle for days, but I think AR, with a lil bit of coaching, can play the same role Jeffries did, with the added of bonus of being competent of offense and the constant threat of him breaking down emotionally from a crazy block/dunk.

Q: Raymond Felton >> Chris Duhon?

Yes.  In all ways, including D.  Felton was also part of one of the stingiest D's in the league last year, although much of that had to do with their Man-to-Man rotations.  Regardless, it shows Felton's defensive IQ and ability to play team D (exception: his play vs. Jameer Nelson).  To Duhon's credit...actually no, I'm not going to compliment him.  Screw him (see any bias?).

Q: Any improvements from the hold overs?

DWTDD is only going to get better at DWTDD after a full year of NBA play + another training camp.  

Gallo has already shown that he can at least play average D and more importantly, shows the desire to be great at D.

Chandler, I'm always dubious of b/c I think people give him too much credit for the D he plays.  He has all the tools, but every time I watch him play, it just seems like there's something missing.  If he had 3/4 the desire that Gallo has to play D, I think he could be a above average to great defensive player. 

Q: What about the new guys?

We already know plenty about Buike and Safari.  They bring a lot of hustle and those ESPN NY articles have already done a great job of profiling them.  Best note though for me is about Safari:

According to Synergy data, opponents scored on only 34.8 percent of their pick-and-rolls against a tandem featuring Turiaf, ranking him third best in the league (league average is 40.3 percent).

For a league that uses the pick and roll as their butter play, this is crucial.  Also, although I can't find it anywhere, but STATmitzvah's P&R defense hasn't drawn rave reviews.  Thus when STAT and Safari are on the floor, Safari can handle the P&R defensive responsibilities.

Q: Does 7SOL even have room for defense?

Yes, but as Pringles likes to mention, it's more about the players vs. the system.  Pringles relies on his rosters individual talents to play D and with this roster, I think he has those players in place at plenty of key roles (wing, PG, agile big men) to get that key defensive stop. 

Q: What about the Russian?

Well, he can't be worse the Curry....right?  Plus, I'm sure he'll be screaming russian expletives after a monster block.  "Na kaleni, suka!!!"

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especially since even Amar'e

represents a significant defensive upgrade at his position vs. last year.

We might actually be… good (!?) on the defensive end this year.

by flossy on Aug 5, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff!

I’d been thinking recently myself that Randolph could be Jeffries’ successor as the point man in that match-up zone. I do wonder how often D’Antoni will go to that zone, considering that he’s got better individual defenders at pretty much every position now.

by Seth on Aug 5, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

makes ya wish we never traded jared, huh?

jeffries could teach randolph the zone and randolph could teach jeffries how to play basketball.

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by stingy d on Aug 5, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one can teach Jeffries how to play basketball

At least the part about putting the ball through the hoop.

I’m hoping D’antoni gives Randolph that quarterbacking responsibility and see if he can learn how to be a defensive quarterback out there. Seems unlikely, but you never know. Randolph does get after it defensively.

by fuhry on Aug 5, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

How important is "length" for the quarterbacking role?

From an intelligence/leadership standpoint, Azubuike would seem like a good fit.

by Seth on Aug 5, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably important

Jeffries guarded 1-5’s, I can only see Bookie getting away with guarding 1-3’s.

Randolph doesn’t have the brains I think, or at least that’s what the Warriors fans say. He does have more length in all 5 limbs then Jeffries tho

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

pause?

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 5, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd think it makes all the difference

that zone looked kinda like a 3-2, or a 1-2-2, where the 1 is manning the entire middle from the top of the key, to the baseline. once jeffries was gone, we saw gallo in that spot.

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by stingy d on Aug 5, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

if it wasnt for his contract

Jeffries would be welcome on the team IMO. Yes, he was awful on the O side, but he was a smart D player and seemed to be a good guy.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 5, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

and the same could be said for eddy curry if he made the vet’s minimum.

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by stingy d on Aug 5, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not unless vet

Is short for veterinarian and we would be paying him in scooby snacks.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Aug 5, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ruh roh

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Aug 6, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

Jeffries couldn’t hit a layup. That drove me crazy.

by fuhry on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would'nt keep

Jeffries and that contract at all.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Aug 5, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good article and well done

And I agree on Chandler, he needs to keep that fire consistently lit

by screamedia on Aug 5, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The key is versatility

I think what was so cool about that Jeffries defense was that it allowed them to switch on picks without losing too much.

For example, you had Jeffries, Harrington, Lee, and Chandler all on the floor, all 6’8" plus, all able to somewhat defend bigs and smalls.

With Randolph, Gallo, Chandler, Amare, you can pretty much do the same thing. Although, part of what made this scheme a success is that Jeffries was communicating out there on defense.

Also, to Lee’s credit, I actually thought he was somewhat decent defensively when switched onto smaller players. I don’t know if Amar’e can do that.

With Chandler, I think it’s his versatility that makes him a valuable defender. He’s not a defensive beast, but he can guard positions 2,3,4 pretty well.

by fuhry on Aug 5, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Chandler's defensive talents

Are, like everyone has said, his versatitlity and his strength. Chandler’s fast but he’s not quick and can’t always keep up with quicker guards (see: Kobe Bryant at MSG ’09). Ill Will is a good shot-blocker and I think his steals and blocks will both increase this year

by WSD on Aug 5, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Chandler is not Shawn Marion

that’s why his D seemed to take a dump last year, he was probably guarding 4’s like Marion was called into doing under Pringles. Marion is probably shorter then Chan, but he’s got pterodactyl arms and he was a lot quicker on his feet (and just flat out knew how to defend).

If Chandler’s guarding SF’s, I think his D will shine better.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 5, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

His ankles seem to be the key

I know we talk sometimes how he’s not as “ferocious” as he could be or assertive enough, but I think his ailing ankles have quite possibly been his thorn in being as aggressive as he can be. I also think they’re a cause or effect for his poor shooting at times due to not setting his feet properly. Hopefully he’s over these ankle injuries and we’ll see him start being the asset his potential has always shown him to be. If he stays healthy and gets a rhythm this year, his numbers go up across the board, if just a small amount in some areas.

by screamedia on Aug 5, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

not for nothin'

nobody in the world can check kobe bryant.

there is this, though.

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by stingy d on Aug 5, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell Yeah!

I like to watch that video every time Kobe Bryant succeeds in some way

by WSD on Aug 5, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chandler also had to guard alot of 2's last year

If you recall, D’Antoni usually started Will at the 2, so he had to guard guys who are quicker than him. He does fine guarding SF’s and I think he does okay guarding 4’s too like he always does well against KG. I think Chandler will mostly be guarding just forwards this year

by WSD on Aug 5, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Great Theory

I don’t know if you guys heard Randolph on McDonald and Tierney the other day, but the kid just sounds willing to do anything and everything to get burn and help this team.

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by viva_morrison on Aug 5, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

good post

AR was a steal imo
loved that deal we got 3 good players one with superstar potential and a grinder do it all we needed in Turiaf
really loving this trade weeks later because David Lee was good and all but couldnt play defense man
and Felton
man this guy could be a All Star here
has all the tools and is a warrior and im not talking Anthony Randloph

by ChiaCrack on Aug 5, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we can be sure D’Antoni is going to love moving Randolph around a lot on both ends of the court. By the way, everyone is still claiming Ill Will is a good defender but he really took a step back last year in my opinion. Why do you think D’Antoni let Gallo guard the other team’s best wing?

by SgtOrange on Aug 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

To my knowledge Gallo said that when they played Denver

in MSG at the end of the season. Chandler was out of the lineup with an injury at that time and by then, the season was basically over, so D’Antoni was experimenting a little bit

by WSD on Aug 7, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are dubious of Chandler

because people give him credit on defense, after you gave Gallo credit not for actually playing defense (which he didn’t do well, yeah, one time he came from the weak side and blocked a shot, and a hundred other times he got beasted on, I know I will take heat because this is Gallo’s fanboy page, and I like him too, don’t get me wrong, but there is madd Gallo koolaid drinking going on in here), but for wanting to play defense? What does that even mean? I want Emma Watson to suck my dick but that doesn’t make it any more likely to happen. I love Gallo and his potential, but all he is right now is potential. He showed flashes of brilliance, but mostly he just chilled 30 feet from the hoop and chucked bad 3 pointers all game. Chandler may not have the upside but he has been the better player and he is continually tossed to the side for the italian kid with potential and a bad back.

by al's brick foundation on Aug 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Just to clarify this,

this post is so much more about showing some love for Wilson then it is about trying to hate on Gallo. I know that it came out that way, but I love Gallo as much as you guys, I just hate to see Chandler continually dismissed after he works his ass off, he has to guard any body from Kobe Bryant to LeBron James to Kevin Garnett, he never complains, he plays hard, he has improved part of his game every year, I know his jumper isn’t great but his mid range jumper improved a lot last year, as did his pull up. He does a little bit of everything, on offense and defense and I don’t feel like he gets enough respect. Teams need a guy like Chandler who can cover many positions and play a few positions of offense. Gallo and Randolph may develop those abilities but they don’t have them right now, and let’s remember, Chandler only just turned 23 years old a couple months ago. He’s only a year older then Gallo is, he has more improvement coming in his game this year, just like all the other young guys do.

by al's brick foundation on Aug 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost agree with this

but I put them both on the same even base right now. I put Gallo above strictly because of his long range shooting and because he will improve on defense.They both should be on the floor, both have big upsides, but both have nagging injuries that have stunted their development. So, on the flip side, as I posted elsewhere, I believe WilChan’s offensive and defensive deficienceies are a direct result of his ankles: not getting his feet in position and not committing on defense. This year is a true tell-tale of how far these players can go, although, if Chandler’s ankles fail him again, I think he’s gonna be on a very short leash. It was only a year ago he was touted as our number one young asset. Funny how quick things can change over the course of a season.

by screamedia on Aug 8, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you're saying and we are irrationally optimistic about Gallo

But your metaphor’s a little off. The great majority of men in this world don’t get a BJ from Emma Watson. The great majority of NBA players don’t play great D. But in basketball, time and time again I have seen that the great majority of NBA players don’t want to play defense. By comparison, I’d bet that most men want an Emma Watson BJ.

So, if NBA defense was like an Emma Watson BJ, I’d say most NBA players are gay. So that fact that Gallo wants to play D means that in terms of NBA D, he is at least heterosexual.

Seriously, the competiveness with which Gallo approaches the defensive end will probably make all the difference. NBA defense is there for the taking, for those that want it. It’s like Emma Watson standing on a chair and yelling “Does anyone want a blowjob?” in a gay bar.

by fuhry on Aug 9, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think if emma watson plays d on me

i could spend some time in rykers.

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by stingy d on Aug 9, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

shes old enough

maybe not preference..but legally

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 9, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Great post fuhry. Funny too.

I love Chandler and Gallo equally. I will admit Gallo has the ceiling advantage out of those 2 but I will always love ill wil.

by al's brick foundation on Aug 11, 2010 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

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