A few thoughts concerning the Knicks and wholesale substitutions.
by Osborn on Aug 5, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
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PrintRecently it came up that the Knicks are in the market for a horribly incapable offensive player with negative 4.5 percent body fat and warped Will-Smith features. Well, about an hour ago I read about the Rockets trying to practically give one away for little to no cost. What luck! Naturally, Donnie Walsh is pulling some strings in attempt to sign veteran Jared Jeffries who, in a mirror maze, could pass for Will Smith. "Clamoring" indicates that Posting & Toasting dot com would not be receptive to such a trade as "JJ 4 E-Curry lol." Well, I'll give you one reason the Knicks should, in fact, trade Eddy Curry to Houston in exchange for Jeffries: Wholesale Substitutions.
Like all Americans, I play pick-up basketball. Like many education-oriented Americans, I play intramural basketball. During these intramural games, because I love basketball in the same obsessive, fixated, realistically strange way that Forrest loved Jenny (RIP, pour some liquor out), I pay attention to every move my team makes, as well as every move the opponent makes in terms of strategy.
Last season, I played a team brilliantly named "The Liam Neesons." They wore jerseys with the names of characters Liam Neeson has played throughout his brilliant career. I guarded Oskar Schindler. He burned me for about fodee, but that is neither here nor there.
The reason The Liam Neesons absolutely picked apart my team is because they had exactly ten players, one greater than my team. The strategy they employed with these ten players was amazing, though; wholesale substituting. By that I mean they started 5 guys, called a time-out exactly 10 minutes into the first half, substituted every single player, and ran the floor against our tired-ass squad. The same 5 who ended the first half started the second, and sure enough they called a time out halfway through to sub everyone who started the game back in to finish it.
Domination.
The reason I bring this up on our lovely Knicks blog is simple:
1. Douglas
2. Azubuike
3. Gallinari
4. Stoudemire
5. Turiaf
1. Felton
2. Walker
3. Chandler
4. Randolph
5. Mozgov
Squad one: Outside shooters surrounding insiders; Stoudemire, and offensive juggernaut; Turiaf, a great defender.
Squad two: A talented alley-oop thrower surrounded by excellent dunkers who run the floor like whoa.
Sure, it's flat-out impossible for this to work, particularly given the likely politics involved with starting Douglas ahead of Felton as well as the unlikelihood of all ten guys showing themselves to be deserving of minutes. But would it be the most beautiful tragedy of a basketball strategy you've ever seen? Why, yes it would.
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you underrate P&T
I know I ain’t the only one that would welcome Jeffires back. For Eddy Curry, basically we’re subbing a useless roster spot for someone who can play D..and play D well.
I thought, as with anyone who actually watched the Knicks last year, that with Jeffries the defense was gelling and the team actually resembled a semi-8th seed contender, which is glorious considering they employed Al Harrington.
The way the team played post-Chupacabra was telling of how much he meant to them, they were a sieve on defense.
He’s now an expiring, so who cares? Getting a useful player who’s not gonna bitch about not playing (tho he probably would play) is fine with me.
First of all!!!
Felton should be starting, right off the back…period. I can’t believe the knicks are bringing in another SG…Mason. they are awfully thick at shooting guard funny thing is none of them play defense..and with Jefferson this might be his last contract…things don’t make sense two bums Jefferson and Curry equal one BUM AZZZ MOVE…If anything they should try and get Hill back or something. What else does houston have…oh Budinger I’ll take him in a second
Jefferson?
I’m assuming you mean Jared Jeffries.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Aug 5, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
FIRST OF ALL...
the Knicks are NOT awfully thick at SG. Mason is really the only true 2. And Bookie is most definitely able to play defense.
And who’s Jefferson?
ah...
well, you’re still off on that. Jeffries was pretty good as a D specialist. If they could get him and a spare part for Curry, that’s making something out of nothing.
If we didn't give up anything along with Eddy,
this could make me happy. D is always at a premium, and Jeffires plays it well.
Also, the Liam Neesons is genius. What would be an equally awesome team name? The Ben Kingsleys? The Laurence Fishburnes?
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
the harrison fords, sean connerys, and definitely the marlon brandos
would all be awesome
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Aug 5, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm on board with any of these:
de niro, pacino, stallone, and schwarzenegger.
by latrell chokewell on Aug 5, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The Liam Neeson's is classic...how 'bout "The Villians"
Choose your favorite for your jersey – Goldfinger, Hannibal Lecter, The Joker…or god forbid, Reggie Miller!
by Left Coast Cowboy on Aug 5, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The Samuel L Jacksons
Then you can yell up and down the court AND you can even name your coach… Carter
and also the gene hackmans
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Aug 5, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
Problem with Jeffries is his contract is ~$3M less than Curry
So we’d need to grab some more trash in the trade or it hurts our cap room after the season.
But it’d be pretty sweet for Anthony Randolph to be learning defense from Jeffries and offense from Amar’e!
by Left Coast Cowboy on Aug 5, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
Curry $11.3M, Jeffries $6.9M
Why would the Rockets trade for more salary or a larger contract that is harder to move when they are over the luxury tax threshold?
Curry would be behind Yao, Miller, Hill, Hayes, and Scola. Yao, Miller, and Hill will play the majority of their minutes at C this season while Scola and Hayes also cover the position.
Both are expiring
However the Rockets don’t have any bad contracts. So they’ll need to give up another asset with a couple of fully non-guaranteed contracts to make the salary numbers works. Even then the Rockets would be adding more addiing more salary, more luxury tax.
I just don’t see the incentive for Houston to take on Curry’s contract. As it makes it harder for them to lessen or get under the LT at the trade deadline. It’s also been reported that the Knicks would not give up a 2014 first round pick for Fernandez.
why not
Eddie Curry is a weirdo first off
he asked his limo driver to do it
weirdo
and he is garbage
speaking of garbage i think my garbage man could put up more points and grab more boards then him
at least Jeffries can defend do it if they are desperate enough
learning to type in paragraph format...
…will serve you well.
it's definitely not a college term paper
but the easier to read your comments and posts are, the more likely they are to be appreciated.
hold on now buddy
i used P&T in a college paper, and I got an A in that class. shit’s real around here man.
by latrell chokewell on Aug 5, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
what, you don't think i got an A?
are my posts that stupid?
just kidding. yeah man, i really did. might have been two papers for that class, in fact. actually, i sent you an e-mail that mentioned it a few months ago.
and in reality, it’s not even the coolest Knicks-related thing I did this year. that would be my Danilo Gallinari fan page in super-basic HTML, unfortunately not really hosted anywhere on the Internet.
by latrell chokewell on Aug 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
OooooOOOOOoooooh yes.
Of course. It’d be funny if we could put together a P&T Academic Hall of Fame, starting with your A paperz.
if the paperz were more academic or P&T oriented, I would
but it was generally BS about being a leader and yadda yadda. so all the P&T content is like, yeah i’m gonna tell those cats to get on Twitter and/or lead them to the promised land of greater readership. what can i say, the class was super easy.
(and now considering that SB Nation has put the share & tweet buttons everywhere and that commenting has exploded on the site, i sort of look like a fortune teller, no?)
by latrell chokewell on Aug 5, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
When I was little.
I used to forget whether it was “strategy” or “stragety”. It was Bugs Bunny’s fault.
that's a little avant-garde
even for D’Antoni. I do hope he goes 9-10 deep in his rotation this year though
I can put in $1.99
toward the fund to purchase ChiaCrack some punctuation marks, periods above all. Anyone else on board?
I loved it when Hubie Brown
used to do that 1st unit/second unit thing.
Damn, I’m old. I think Rory Sparrow was involved.
Kinda like Alvin Gentry
And the Suns this past season. Alot of times their second unit were the ones to give them leads. We could do that this year
by WSD on Aug 6, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Jared Jefferies - Two units
What’s the connection Seth? Is Jared the 6th man for both teams?
Well, I realized afterward that I didn't put him in either unit.
And it’s very astute of you to notice. But what I meant is that we should try to get as many actual basketball players as we can on our bench. If we have a lot of players who are actually useful, it may behoove us for switching entire units.
Good call though.
correct me if I'm wrong (i may regret that)
but being that the nix are still (barely) under the cap, the salaries
of a curry-for-jeffries swap don’t have to match-up.
they have to be within 10 or 15% or something
and curry makes nearly double jeffries.
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You guys really don't know basketball
Curry at 350 pounds would still be better that Jared Jeffries. Curry can play something Jared can not do….Curry should be given every opportunity to succeed….He is in his contract year and should play hard….If he is not injured he should be starting of Turiaf or T-Mo….The Knicks need to start their best team and stop holding grudges….Too many times the best team was not on the floor…..Jared sucks. With 11.6 million dollars invested in Curry the Knicks need to ride him until he is exhausted 20 shots then trade him at the deadline for value.
Comeback Player of the Decade
Hope it is Curry…He is the ingredient for a championship team….Will add flavor to the Knicks….Only thing he should be fed is the ball…..He has soft hands and can finish….Give him a chance to work off the rust.
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