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2010-2011 New York Knicks Season Preview!

It's that time of year, y'all! The Celtics friends went yesterday, and today is all about your New York Knicks. Check out Straight Bangin', Bandwagon Knick, and Knickerblogger for more (and presumably more valid) previews.

Team Name: New York Knicks
Last Year’s Record: 29-53
Key Losses:
David Lee, Al Harrington, Chris Duhon
Key Additions: Amar'e Stoudemire, Anthony Randolph, Kelenna Azubuike, Ronny Turiaf, Timofey Mozgov, Raymond Felton, Roger Mason.

Star-divide

1. What Significant Moves were made during the off-season?

Amar'e Stoudemire was signed to a maximum contract. David Lee was signed and traded for Randolph, Azubuike, and Turiaf. Raymond Felton, Roger Mason, and Timofey Mozgov were acquired. Memories of Chris Duhon and Al Harrington were erased via Neuralyzer. The possibility of Isiah Thomas returning moved us all to the brink of insanity.

2. What are the team’s biggest strengths?

Depth! I bet I've said that each of the last three years, but I mean it this time, y'all. All of the signings have blessed Mike D'Antoni with the manpower to experiment with lineups, adjust to all kinds of match-ups, and weather any injuries. Moreover, D'Antoni has depth of the defensive variety, with a whole quiver of different weapons at his disposal. He's got two ball-seeking missiles in the backcourt (Raymond Felton and Toney Douglas) , some steady broadswords to deter wings (Kelenna Azubuike, Wilson Chandler, and even Landry Fields), and the option to either bludgeon big men (Ronny Turiaf) or pierce them with venomous laser beams from space (Anthony Randolph).

This team also appears well-equipped to run the pick-and-roll. Ray Felton isn't Steve Nash, but he's a capable lead guard, and he'll have an elite roller to feed in Stoudemire. Randolph and Timofey Mozgov should see touches in the pick-and-roll as well.

3. What are the team’s biggest weaknesses?

Rebounding. In years past, the gameplan was simply to let David Lee clean up any mess. With Lee out of the picture, the Knicks' frontcourt is still a bit undersized and is populated with surprisingly poor rebounders in Stoudemire, Turiaf, and Mozgov. They'll need forwards like Chandler, Randolph, and Danilo Gallinari to help out quite a bit.

Outside shooting might also be a weakness. A healthy Roger Mason should shoot better than he did last year, but he and Danilo Gallinari are the team's only true sharpshooters. Then again, if Kelenna Azubuike recovers in full, he should be a reliable outside threat, and Bill Walker put up some preposterous shooting numbers last year. You know, I think I just talked myself into outside shooting as a strength.

4. What are the goals for this team?

Making the playoffs, for sure, but I'd add in putting up a fight. I'm too starry-eyed to be reasonable, but I really think this is a playoff team, and I'm even greedy enough to wish for at least the threat of an upset in round one. If this team could sneak in as a 7 or 8 seed and steal some games off someone like the Heat, that would be just about the best thing that's ever happened to me.

5. What will become of Anthony Randolph?

There are number of players- Gallinari, Felton, that Stoudemire guy- that will use more possessions and have more of an effect on the court than Anthony Randolph will this season. That said, I have this strange feeling that Randolph is the wild card that will sink the Knicks or keep them afloat. The expectations for Randolph are remarkably polar. Some see a six-eyed basketball-eating extraterrestrial flying sighthound with All-Star potential and Venus Flytraps for hands. Others see an abject bust. Randolph's season and career will fall somewhere in between, but his spirit is so typical of these Knicks that I can't help but think of him as the team's totem. If Randolph can harness his seismic defensive potential and hone his offensive talent into a workable plan, then I see no reason why the rest of the team can't follow suit. As Anthony Randolph goes, so go the Knicks. Everything I just said is patently bogus, but it is a reality in which I choose to operate.

Predicted record: 42-40 and the 7th or 8th seed. I think I've predicted that or something like it every year, but this time I'm super cereal.

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True Fan!

You’re a true fan, and that is a major reason I love to read your work. I’m not as optimistic as you are (the Knicks might JUST be a playoff team at 40-42), but anything approaching optimism is a sea change from the last eight years or so.

by chin8tao on Sep 14, 2010 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Harrington and Dudu are additions by subtration

Donnie should get some GM of the year votes for letting those 2 go.

I agree about Randolph, I think he compares to Lamar Odom more then just his girlish figure, but the fact that whenever Odom is in beast mode, the Lakers are unbeatable. Odom’s also very inconsistent.

We ain’t the Lakers, obviously, and I hope AR’s more consistent then Odom, but yea I think that if he’s getting extended minutes and is doing work the Knicks will be real tough to beat.

There ain’t no more valid previews, you got it all Serth

Toney Douglas

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 14, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's how I see it:

You’ve got your reliable vets: Amar’e (36 mins, 20-25/8-10), Felton (36 mins, at least 13/6), Turiaf (20 mins, 6/4) and Mason (maybe 20 mins while Azubuike is recovering, 7-10 ppg).

That’s nice but it’s not enough to get you to the playoffs.

Then you’ve got the big, young, talented question marks: Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Mozgov, Douglas, Azubuike. If D’Antoni can coax high-level basketball out of three or more of those six players, I think we have a playoff team on our hands.

Amar’e: 22ppg, 9 rpg 1.5 blocks
Gallo: 18 ppg, 6 rbp, 3 apg
Randolph: 16 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 blocks 2 ast
Felton: 15ppg, 8 apg
Chandler: 12 ppg, 4 rpg
Mason and/or Azubuike: 10 ppg (I predict only 1 will get PT depending on who is healthy)
Douglas: 8 ppg 2 apg
Turiaf: 7 ppg 5 rbp 1.5 blks
Mozgov: 4 ppg 3 rpg 1 blk

Fields, Rautins, Ewing Jr, Curry – non factors this year

Offense: Top 10
Defense 15th – 20th

Record: 43-39, 7th seed

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

numbers seem reasonable aside from the record, im thinking 41-41 with an 8th seed. felton should def hit those numbers cant wait till november, buike should start when healthy.

by Angel Colon on Sep 14, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walker is banashed from the team?

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Sep 14, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

You can go ahead and sit him down just in front of Fields on the bench IMO.

I guess it really depends on what Walker we see—they guy from the end of last season who lit it up from downtown? The guy from SL who looked just awful? Somewhere in between? Unless it’s mostly the former I don’t see him being a big contributor except as part of the garbage time dunk parade.

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to think Walker will see minutes, possibly heavy minutes if Azubuike is not at full strength. Summer league doesn’t mean anything, if he shoots it like last year he will demand burn. His athleticism and shooting can’t go to waste in this system.

by SgtOrange on Sep 16, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Negative!!

Felton will not avg 8 assists. How many players avg 8 assists in a year? Not many. Randolph is not gonna reach those numbers cuz he wont be on the floor long enuff.

by knick@nite on Sep 14, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually last year, eight players averaged 8 apg or better

and Felton has twice averaged 7 or better. It’s really not that much of a leap considering that even Duhon saw his stats shoot up playing D’Antoni-ball (until he totally fell apart in year 2).

Unless AR commits a felony or gets hurt I expect ~30 mpg for him at a bunch of different positions so 16/9 isn’t out of the question either IMO

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

8 assists is probably on the low side considering how much time he will see and # of possessions.

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 14, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Felton gets 15ppg, probably somewhere around 12 with all the weapons we have. I would be thrilled with a 12 and 8 kind of season from Felton, assuming he keeps his shooting % similar to last season. Also, 6 guys averaging double figures doesn’t happen often.

by SgtOrange on Sep 16, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep track

of those projections and show them in Jan. If Randolph averages 16 and 9, and Turiaf gets 7 and 5, the trade Donnie made will have been the steal of the summer.

by Vincent C on Sep 18, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pierce them with venemous laser beams from space?

Ahhhh!!! I’m so amped for the season to start.

They will be for!

by StarksMiddleFinger on Sep 14, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Prediction

At some point in the year, the Knicks will get hot and win a bunch of games in a row, and will grace the cover of Sports Illustrated with a headline like this:

Renaissance Men: Amar’e and the Multinational Knicks Shake Up The NBA

49-33, 5th seed.

by fuhry on Sep 14, 2010 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

wtf

ill eat my knicks hat!

by Angel Colon on Sep 14, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, we're doing predictions?

If there’s any team with a 20 game boom/bust potential, it’s the Knicks. They get hot late.

47-35, 6th seed.

by ThisIsTraps on Sep 14, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

absolutely….even in the past two years we manage to play relatively good basketball for cycles…we can just never maintain it…and it was cancelled out by the rest of the time when we sucked…but we wont be that bad…at worse we are a 7th seed…at best maybe we sneak into that 4th spot….the bulls are wayyy overrated

by hopelessknickfan on Sep 14, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

this seems more likely.

I predicted 45-48 wins about 1 month ago.

by BJabs on Sep 14, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

prediction

1st round upset of the Miami cHeat

by holycowboy on Sep 14, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

For the record

At Vegas, one of the guys from NYK Blog asked me how many games I thought the Knicks would win, and I said 50. This post qualifies as pessimism.

by Seth on Sep 14, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

with all these predictions...

i hope yall realize that being in the east you dont need a winning record to get 7-8 seed, with that being said ima be bold and say 45-37 but 5th seed

by black hova on Sep 14, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

42-40 8th-6th seed.

I like the post, I agree on all points except one. Mozgov being a surprisingly bad rebounder. Russia’s coach uses him as a perimeter shot disrupter. Anyone getting a somewhat open look will have Mozzie jumping in their view. Since he’s so big it’s had to shoot over him. He actually gets block this way. Ask Durant.

The times when he wasn’t on disrupter duty he snagged 11,7 and 5 rebounds. He’s shown that when in the paint he can get boards, he’s also shown that he has a booty bumpin’ box out as well which can lead to Mozzies! He can clean the glass like a homeless person at a gas station! Bad metaphor…?

"Dedication To The Don" Most Popular Post Of All Time On P&T. I Am Honored

by MikeTheIntern on Sep 14, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Fair points.

I hope you’re right, although if he loses rebounds to contest shots, then so be it.

by Seth on Sep 14, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The way I see it is, If him losing out on a rebound leads to him forcing someone to miss then its cool beans. As long as someone grabs the rebound. An active big man like that jumping in front of 1’s and 2’s is genius and unheard of. You don’t see big men being used like that in the NBA.

"Dedication To The Don" Most Popular Post Of All Time On P&T. I Am Honored

by MikeTheIntern on Sep 14, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as someone grabs the rebound

I would prefer said rebounder to either be in a Knicks uniform, or on my fantasy team…or both.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Sep 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, ignore that.

I expect all the Knicks to not allow any shots unless they heaves at the end of quarters. I don’t expect them to miss on the offensive side either.

My expectations MAY be a bit high…

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Sep 15, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm guessing we will push 50

but not hit it. 45 or better. somewhere in the 5th-8th seed range.

nuttin in the league’s eye.

/// aighttho.com \\\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\\

by stingy d on Sep 14, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Nuttin in the league's eye?

Dear Mr. Stern, please remove your glasses. Mr. Stern? Your glasses.

by ThisIsTraps on Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

this site rocks!

nothing but optimism on this site, being a knick fan was always about loyalty through the good and bad, thats ny!

by Angel Colon on Sep 14, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

and dick jokes

/// aighttho.com \\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\

by stingy d on Sep 14, 2010 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great Picture

He looks just like what he is:
Someone whom poses for OUT Magazine and is a Backup Power Forward.

by Dziedzic on Sep 14, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Sep 15, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

no way is he going to play the 4. he's a natural 3 so let him play his natural slot ok?

he’s the best 3 we have so let him start and i don’t see any reason for him not to start

Victory goes to the courageous!!

by PTfromRP on Sep 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god his Cock isnt hanging out

thats a creepy picture
is that real?
lmfao whats wrong with this guy!
just play basketball Gallo if you want to go Dirk Diggler on us do it afer you retire

by Archie Barberio on Sep 14, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That picture is from about three years ago.

I would speculate that it has something to do with him playing for Armani’s team over in Italy, but I could be wrong.

by Osborn on Sep 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

his nipples are disconcertingly small

Could it be due to excess amounts of rooster testosterone?

by breathingshark on Sep 15, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn't cool.

"Dedication To The Don" Most Popular Post Of All Time On P&T. I Am Honored

by MikeTheIntern on Sep 15, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Might as well

I guess I might as well just throw this out there. The Knicks will compete for a championship.

by Mongoke on Sep 14, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Continuity Development Needed

The team will do very well as it develops continuity. If we get a few breaks maybe the playoffs and a series win. With nine new guys of better talent we should have some adjustments to make developing the units.
IST Unit/Felton/Mason/Chandler/Turiaf/Stoudemire
2nd Unit?Douglas/Azubuike/Randolph/Mozgov/Gallinari

“GO KNICKS”

by Dziedzic on Sep 14, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

wait...

you want felton to start??!! at point guard no less…

no chance. 2nd b-team unit squad.

go knicks!!

/// aighttho.com \\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\

by stingy d on Sep 14, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

gallo as the 2nd unit center?

im confused….

starters – felton bookie gallo stoudemire turiaf
bench – douglas mason chandler randolph mozgov
the rest – fields rautins ewing walker curry

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Sep 14, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read Carfully

Your Gallo is secon unit PF

by Dziedzic on Sep 14, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

yr wrong about who is on the knicks roster. so you are confused.

go knicks!

/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \

by stingy d on Sep 14, 2010 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

as long as they do what my sig says...

which means to claw their way through even the most arduous situations then i’m happy as a fan. it’s been mostly a decade of indifference from players on the court now at least they show that they care nope not just the nba cares commercials but as in really care to bust their asses off then that is what i call perfect happiness. a 38 win team maybe but that’s as low as i can go.

Victory goes to the courageous!!

by PTfromRP on Sep 14, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If Felton and our SG both shoot a decent percentage from outside and we stay healthy

I’m going with 52 wins and 5th seed, behind Miami, Orlando Boston, maybe Atlanta; ahead of or tied with Chicago, ahead of Mil, Indiana.

We know Gallo’s going to light it up. We know Turiaf can score inside and is one of the best passing bigs in the league. The question mark is the backcourt where, if I recall, only DWTDD and Bully have historically good shooting percentages.

The one time last year we went on a tear and played close to .600 ball was when Duhon and the backcourt were focused (i.e. Nate “That’s MR. Low Basketball IQ to you!” Robinson was benched) and shooting fairly well.

The key really is Felton and his J. As Duhon showed us, the PNR doesn’t really work if the defender goes under the pick and shadows the roller, making the pass to the roller difficult and essentially daring the ball handler to shoot. That’s why a big reason why the Phoenix PNR was so deadly: Steve Nash is one of the best shooters in the history of the NBA; defenders really had to pick their poison. So we’re just hoping that the coaching staff can do with Felton what they could not do with Duhon: make his jumper more consistent.

If only DWTDD were a better passer. Maybe Rautins has some game. Either way, I think he is enough of an upgrade for us to be a whole lot better this year.

52 wins. My story and I’m stickin’ to it

by AtlKnicksFan on Sep 14, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Stoudemire may average 27 points a game this year.

That man is all sorts or re-dedicated to life, basketball and smashing (in general).
If he gets to work against an aging Kevin Garnett, Amir Johnson, Troy Murphy and Elton Brand all season, can’t we expect some gaudy, 40 point games?
Against the following teams, David Lee averaged the following points last year:
Boston – 23 ppg
Toronto – 24 ppg
New Jersey – 22 ppg

Stoudemire shot 70% from the floor last year against Toronto and Boston! 63% against New Jersey!

iMuchos puntos!

by Osborn on Sep 14, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

he's not gonna have any high volume shooters near him.

the only one I can see is Gallo, and he is not a black hole in the offense..and I want Gallo shooting or going to the rack anyway.

Amare probably does average a ton of points this year. Whether its a good thing or not we’l see.

Toney Douglas

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 14, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll have more than Lee did. Lee didn’t have any high volume shooters around him last year.

by Mongoke on Sep 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, err... Al Harrington? :-)

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Sep 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you serious?

The Fist punched you with Al Harrington, and I’ll throw in Larry Hughes. Nate Robinson.

Who are the high volume shooters in 2010?

Toney Douglas

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 14, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

another thing to consider

is the role of a primary ball handler. i wasn’t overly thrilled with felton. but aside from a trade, that was the best point guard out there.

but felton shoild prove to be effective and will probably have his wits about him. and he will be able to drive and kick.

between duhon and jeffries we practically started every game 3 against 5. thats no longer the case. shooters gon shoot.

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by stingy d on Sep 14, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kevin "Saving it for the Playoffs" Garnett, Amir Johnson, Troy Murphy and Elton Brand.

Doesn’t that lineup bring a smile to your face? Those guys should just quit right now.

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It won't be that easy

Many of these teams have their own tough front courts and future potential in this area, whether their specifically strong at the PF, they’ll be strong at the C and have depth at the bench, plus deadly guards can be like low post scorers, just dominating your paint.

by Mongoke on Sep 14, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Celtics won't be easy; they have a lot of big bodies

But Stoudemire should wreck the Raptors, Nets and Sixers. Who exactly on those teams should he be afraid of? Johnson/Bargnani? Brand/Hawes? Murphy/Favors/Lopez? Please. If Amar’e can drop 40 on the likes of Duncan and Gasol I fully expecting him to be owning those guys all season long. And if we’re going to make the playoffs I think we need to take at least 9-10 of the 12 games we play against the lower tier teams in the Atlantic Division.

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sixers

The Sixers are a potential squad and have Marreese Speights at their center position.
The Nets Lopez, Murphy, Damion James, Joe Smith and Derrick Favors are not be slept on.
 The only easy team here may be the Raptors and who knows even they could be difficult later on in the season, but the knicks could still sweep them.
I don’t assume the Atlantic will be as easy as it would have been last year.

by Mongoke on Sep 17, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gonna be a few years

Before Marreese Speights or Derrick Favors are giving Amar’e any real trouble.

Brook Lopez is a real player. The rest of the players you mentioned don’t concern me at all.

by flossy on Sep 17, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think theres this misconception out there

that we play more games against teams in the Atlantic division.
I don’t think that’s the case. I think its pretty much the same amount of games for every eastern conference team. Anybody have any info on that ?

I’m not saying you think that, Osborn.
I just thought this would be a good oppurtunity to bring it up.

12 minutes to 5pm !!! highfive !!!

by ben linus on Sep 14, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's a good point. It depends on the schedule, I think.

I know that Gallinari played in every game last year except one game against the Hawks, so he’d be the best barometer to use when figuring out how many games the Knicks played against each team last year.

We played the following teams four times:
Atl
Bos
Cha
Chi
Det
Ind
NJ
Phi
Was
Tor

The following teams twice:
Dal
Den
GS
Hou
LAC
LAL
Min
NO
OKC
Pho
Por
Sac
San
Uta
Mem

And the following teams thrice:
Cle
Mia
Mil
Orl

So, I don’t necessarily know which teams will be played what number of times, but I know for a fact the division games will get four a piece. Good point, though, Ben Linus.

by Osborn on Sep 14, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This optimism is getting a little crazy

I’ll clarify and say I’m super psyched for this season and I love our current team without even having watched them play as a unit yet. But 50 wins? The Celtics won 50 games last year in an Eastern Conference that got stronger this year. You could say well Boston is old but we’re also very young and haven’t played at all together save for like 4 players.

Not trying to be a downer but I wouldn’t say our team this year is better than the Celtics last year. I wouldn’t even say we’re as good as the Hawks who won 53 games. Again, the East got stronger this year. I think we’re a definite playoff lock unless we get some serious injuries.

I personally say 44-38, 7th seed.

And I do I do have a feeling in the second half of the year or maybe like January we’ll get a hot streak and win like 10 of 12 games or something. But I don’t think we’re a top 4 team in the East.

by WSD on Sep 14, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Our January schedule is just brutal

… like a who’s who of Western Conference playoff teams, if I recall. But I know what you mean.

by flossy on Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Optimism is blissful and all, but...

there is no way we win 50 games this year. Too many new players, too many adjustments to make. Keep in mind that no one even knows who the starters will be this year, or even the rotation players for that matter. I’m reminded of an NFL saying that goes something like “if you have a QB controversy, then you really don’t have a number 1 QB”. I like our supposed depth, but it’s a double-edged sword in that we still have to figure out what works (which will take time) and we may go through issues with disgruntled players again who feel they should be getting playing time. I’m also not convinced that we have legitimate answers at SG or C.

I’m staying hopeful, despite my worries, because our roster is as exciting on paper as it has been in a long long time. I’d say best case scenario is 45 wins, worst case scenario (discontinuity, STAT gets injured, we overestimate how important Lee was) is 30 wins.

by Mldrannor16 on Sep 14, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair though

the celtics played some horrific basketball for stretches last year. They were mediocre at home, and obviously limited the minutes of their stars. Paid off yeah, and they were a great team, but they were not a great regular season team.

NY on the other hand will be playing like every game counts this upcoming year, because if they dont make the playoffs, people will want blood, or at the very least, a massive bloody overhaul. This all out effort for 82 games will probably hinder our chances of advancing once we’re in the playoffs, but we’re young, deep, and motivated… we’ll see. 1st round matchup will have a lot to do with it. I’d rather play Orlando or Miami than Boston for example. Or rather have Atlanta over Milwaukee.

All that crap being said, i think our regular season record will be surprisingly good, but may not translate to much come May. We’ve got no postseason experience outside of Amare, except for Felton knowing how to be butchered.

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 14, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a better chance of making noise in the playoffs

than having a good record in the regular season. I can definitely see us finishing hot and riding it to an upset of an upper seed.

by Mldrannor16 on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

matchups pending i guess

but you cant have yours without mine in this new and improved eastern conference. By that, I mean without a good record in the regular season, there aren’t any playoffs.

I get what your saying though, hopefully these guys gel when it matters it most. This European trip coming up soon should be a good early step. The sooner they learn to play together, the better the record will be. If NY is dominating the pace of a game, they have the talent to beat anyone. Lebron ain’t got no jumpshot!

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I hate the Miami Heat as much as the next guy but, if we have any chance of an upset if we go into the playoffs hot, it will not be over the Heat. Felton, Gallo and Amare are not better than Wade, LBJ and Bosh. I’m sorry.

Maybe we could pull an upset over a team like ATL or Chicago or the Bucks but we won’t be good enough, even when hot, to upset Orlando or Boston or Miami

by WSD on Sep 14, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me elaborate

beat anyone in a game (dominating the pace of a game), in regard to the possibility of their regular season record ending up better than most people predict. If you read earlier, i said it might not translate to much come May (playoff time). I wouldnt take NY in a series either against the upper echelon EC teams, because controlling the pace of a 7-game series is almost impossible, especially for the inexperienced. That’s why the matchup is so important.

Course we are way ahead of ourselves. One game at a time.

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 14, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i never said that our "big three" was better than them

its not like they go out there and play 3 on 3 though.

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

We could upset Boston

We’re faster, more athletic, and have better shooters. Miami and Orl would be tough. Chi and Mil would be tough. Atl is not elite anymore, and we have a better bench than they do. We beat them last year with that D-League team we fielded. 50 wins, 4-5 seed, neck and neck with Chicago.

by AtlKnicksFan on Sep 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

People are sleeping on ATL a little too much. I mean they didn’t add much but Horford is still young and developing and was an All-Star already last year. Josh Smith is also just starting to explore all of the assets of his game and so he’s still getting better. I think they’ll hover around the same record as last year. They won’t be worse in my opinion.

And I think Boston has better shooters than us.
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Nate Robinson, Brian Scalabrine (if he plays), Delonte West, Von Wafer

vs.

Gallo, Bill Walker, Ray Felton, Mason Jr, Toney Douglas, Buike

by WSD on Sep 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

atlanta

is getting a lil bit of an overlook. I still believe they are a solid team. Solid at teh 3-5 seed..but solid.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Sep 20, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOCO DREAM WORLD.

No one loves the knicks more than i do. But u guys r predicting 47 and 49 wins for this team. Stop dreaming or go see a shrink. 43 wins tops.

by knick@nite on Sep 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet some people do.

your argument is well reasoned and insightful however! I’ll counter with the Knicks playing only 1 good month of basketball for the entire 09-10 season and still winning 29 games…with a terrible pg, bunch of selfish role players, no center, no motivation, more rumor swirling than usual, and jared jeffries.

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 14, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

only on 2k sports!

id b psyched if they get 43, anywhere near 50 is not realistic. A 20 game improvement sounds impossible this season, 8th seed and a free agent or trade next year should get us to 50 hopefully, probably just more optimism.

by Angel Colon on Sep 15, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly somewhere between 40-45 wins..

enough to snag a 7/8 seed tho :)

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Sep 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

playofffs your talking playofffs

yessir Knicks are f’n back and we will be in the playoffs
this is the best Ive felt about the Knicks since…………..I was rocking Space Jam Jordans and drinking Cherry kool aid as a kid
long time coming

biggest weaknes is Antoni without the D
defense imo
it gives me shutters to think about our defense with Antoni minus the D

my friends is a Nets fan and I felt bad for him about free agency getting shutout anyway he said the other day he was looking at our lineup and said “seriously I f’n hate the Knicks but not getting LBJ was the best thing that could happen to you, all those guys you signed getting AR keeping Rooster and setting yourselves up to land another superstar is gonna be a great future to the Knicks congrats”
he as many of us are, is a huge AR fan
I remember him telling me about him during that draft and said you should take Gallo but this kid is gonna be a star, he said AR will be a superstar type player in a few years
AR is really really oozing with potential

by Archie Barberio on Sep 14, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I love the post because

I feel like we’re on the same page. Someone asked me what I want fomr the Knicks this year, and my goal is to sneak into the playoffs just like ‘99, and take down the heat in a first round series. Once playoff time starts, a series like that will rock the garden and then the magic happens. Two big reasons why we really could push that 50 win mark:
1. NO duhon, NO harrington. No Jeffries. Major addition by subtraction there.
2. Guys aren’t worrying about being gone at the end of the season. Summer of lebron is over, guys can be part of an actual team now.

by teksurgical on Sep 15, 2010 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Im definately excited about our roster as well

excited for the season to start, although I def can wait because of football. But 50 wins? LOL….c’mon….this team is not 20 wins better than last year. The record will def be better…but you have 4 teams in the east that will def be better in Mia, Bos, Orl and Chi. 2 team prob better in Mil and Atl…that leaves 2 playoff teams between NY, Ind, Cle, Char, and NJ….we are 10 or 11 wins better, at best 39-43…..40-42….

by Jason Bee on Sep 16, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Optimistic!

I hope your dreams come trueeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

by layincable on Sep 16, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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