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Knicks Morning Practice Notes- 9/25/10

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Osborn and I are here in the media room at the MSG training facility, and we figured we'd get some notes up while we wait for AAA to come fix (and/or tow) my car. Here we go:

- The open portion of today's practice started with five-man defensive drills. The team was broken into three units and each had to scramble and communicate while coaches worked the ball around the perimeter. After that came three-man fast break drills starting with an outlet pass and ending with a quick pick-and-roll or a kick-out. Practice ended with an all-out circuit training session which was tougher than any I've seen in years past. There were a dozen or so different stations with everything from sled-pulls to cone-dribbling to squats to physio ball planks. Players rotated from station to station in groups of three, running each drill for a minute and getting only a few seconds of breathing time in between. The guys were beat, y'all. A couple of guys- Amar'e Stoudemire, Andy Rautins, Landry Fields- looked especially crisp in drills, while a few others- Eddy Curry, Ronny Turiaf, Bill Walker- were visibly struggling. Pretty much across the board, though, the whole ordeal kicked the living crap out of the entire squad. Everything ended with some stretching and media availability while Stoudemire stayed late to cop a couple hundred shirtless jumpers. 

There isn't much to be gleaned from fixed-unit, non-contact drills (scrimmages should start this evening), but take the jump for a handful of individual notes:

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Timofey Mozgov looked pretty sharp sliding his feet defensively all the way out to the perimeter. His jump shot wasn't falling, but Timo stayed active and didn't cut corners during the conditioning stuff.

Landry Fields may have added some muscle since we saw him in Vegas. He was also getting UP in the fast break drills.

Amar'e Stoudemire takes these drills more seriously than most people I've seen. The newly minted co-captain went full speed start to finish, barked orders when he was on the sidelines, and finished every fast break drill with a massive tomahawk. Also, goggles.

I need to look back at this post for reference, but Osborn and I both agreed that Roger Mason's stroke looked like it had gotten some attention over the summer. Os noticed that his feet were almost comically far apart, and it also seemed like he was cocking the ball lower and farther to the right than previously. Either way, the shots were falling pretty consistently.

Raymond Felton likes to shoot floaters that almost graze the top of the shot clock. I can not explain this habit, but I approve.

In the 3-man drills, Danilo Gallinari handled the ball quite a bit. Just saying.

I mentioned it on Twitter, but Stoudemire and Felton introduced as co-captains at last night's team dinner.

Check out TKB for videos and quotes from the morning practice.

Again, there's much more to be learned from scrimmages than drills, so we'll have some juicier stuff later on. In the meantime, be well and pray for my car.

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Good stuff as usual Seth

Looks like Turiaf is such a leader that he’ll even struggle during practices just so Eddy Curry isn’t the only one and/or keep Bully Walker from saying “HA ha” like Nelson to poor Eddy.

Good to hear Mason’s shot is getting wet. If we have him in that form that made him deadly with the Spurs, the Knicks got a nice sniper and an excellent signing.

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

het seth

did you get any footage, for my knicks fix.

by choplo on Sep 25, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

rgr that

thanks bro. but are you going to collect tonight scrimage for the archives on PT. and for my fix as well….

by choplo on Sep 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Great!

I am out West (still a Knick lifer) and I found this site to be the most informational to hear about what is going on in the Knick’s World. I truly believe they will make great strides this year…

by PinoyBBall on Sep 25, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome

As Ronny says, stay positive.

by fuhry on Sep 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

so I see you banned dookiehead for dissenting opinion. That is laughable. This blog has really become a joke, you ban him for dissenting opinion, why don’t you ban everybody else for their dissenting opinion? Because you agree with it? Because you are all over Gallo’s cock to the point where it is literally embarrassing? Unbelievable. Yeah, so what, we want Carmelo and we are willing to trade our mediocre 22 year old swingman with back issues to get him. Why not ban all the people who blindly scream no trading Gallo or AR no matter what even though they have both never done anything meaningful in the NBA!!! You ban a guy for not agreeing with you? What is this, Metsblog?

by al's brick foundation on Sep 25, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

dude

just stop being a dick.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Sep 25, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

we don’t talk like this here

by tz88 on Sep 25, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

"dookiehead" was not banned for holding a dissenting opinion.

“dookiehead” was banned for expressing his dissenting opinion without any degree of diplomacy or respect for his fellow commenters.

by Seth on Sep 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

N u got mad at me cause I kept calling him retarded…smh @ u

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah he was patronizing as hell

probably chris duhon’s evil twin

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa.....

Duhon was a Dookie. And he was a Blue Devil, which are patronizing as hell.

Mind. Blown.

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hasn't banned dziedzic...

not for nothin. and he is the most outspoken anti-gallo-ite. but he manages not to be completely disrespectful. which ultimately, isn’t that complicated.

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by stingy d on Sep 25, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

how could he get banned?

he is the poet laureate of very confused Nets and Knicks fans.

by flossy on Sep 25, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bulgarian billy collins!

/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \

by stingy d on Sep 25, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can take it how you want to... and we know you are already are

but these pages are about the teams and respect of the fellow posters. Says it right there in the rules that you accept when you join. There is tons of room to disagree with people, but when you just consistently condescend to everyone and really act like a jackass, then yeah, you get banned.

We call plenty of our own out when we disagree, but we never look to embarrass them and mock them unrelentingly. So yeah, goodbye dookiehead, goodbye dabutches, and you too if you can’t respect other people. This aint a high school bathroom wall to deface.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Sep 26, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i tell ya

having a foundation in al harrington’s name is suspect enough.

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by stingy d on Sep 26, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is though

you guys do patronize everybody and try to embarrass them. Anybody who wants to trade Gallo doesn’t understand basketball. Anybody who isn’t ready to call AR the next Amare is a troll. You guys do the same thing that other people have been banned for. Basically Seth bans people because they don’t share his irrational obsession that Gallo is a great player, which he isn’t. I understand why dookiehead got fed up (I don’t even know what he did to get banned) because you can’t even mention Melo’s name around here without people getting all pissed off and talking about how we better not trade Gallo because he is cheaper then Melo (lol). It’s really just ridiculous, the standards are so low here that we bring in a couple of upgrades, and now our 10th best team in the East is too awesome to try to improve more. The cockiness here is laughable, the unwillingness to improve a team that probably won’t even make the playoffs is crazy, and the orange color glasses you guys see everything thru becomes tiresome.

by al's brick foundation on Sep 27, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically Seth bans people because they don’t share his irrational obsession that Gallo is a great player, which he isn’t

This is patently false. Ask anybody who’s been warned (obviously not those who’ve been banned, which is only a handful of commenters). I warn and eventually ban commenters if their opinions bleed into hatefulness. That’s it. If you’ve really got an issue, then please take it up with me personally via email.

by Seth on Sep 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only regular commentator who has ever said

Anybody who wants to trade Gallo doesn’t understand basketball. Anybody who isn’t ready to call AR the next Amare is a troll. is you, just now.

and im just looking over and 5 of the last 7 fanposts are Melo-oriented.

It’s no surprise that you are misinterpreting what other people are actually talking about; you don’t even know what YOU are saying.

Now for GOD’S SAKE SETH, get to the real news. What HAS Larry Hughes been up to???

"Game Knows Game"

by Ray Smuckles on Sep 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

but when you just consistently condescend to everyone and really act like a jackass, then yeah, you get banned.

Funny, freebradhaw i still here, that guy is a dick to everybody.

by al's brick foundation on Sep 27, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 27, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

wooooooooo

practice notes =] been waitin a long time for this…

the season’s right around the corner

and im continually impressed the knicks keep saying the write things…..awesome

by hopelessknickfan on Sep 25, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

that Bowie album has some great songs on it

Hopefully the next couple seasons will be golden years for the Knicks. I’d like to see them stay at the top of the East.

by 100% dundee on Sep 25, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The RIGHT thing to do

This is arguably the BEST roster so far not only talent-wise but character-wise which is most important in building a winning atmosphere. Surely, no one knows how it is going to pan out but I think we all should give it time to grow as ONE basketball unit = many will be surprise to see the BRAND of basketball the Knicks will be playing this year and beyond….if ’Melo wants to come here he should wait a year when he can flat-out sign with his dream team – “THE KNICKs”. Even if there are drastic changes in the CBA, he will still have more than enough $$$ for his lifetime. Plus, whoever did not want to come here ($@#$) – IT IS THEIR LOST – missing out in playing in front of the most intelligent and passionate basketball fans in the whole universe….

by PinoyBBall on Sep 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Great stuff, Seth! About Eddy Curry...

How’s he looking? I saw you say he struggled in the drills – is he in better shape than he’s been in the past at least fitness-wise?

by twincitiesknick on Sep 25, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't look especially fit.

Also not especially out of shape. Just Eddy.

Incidentally, Osborn and I are here chillaxin’ in the media room between practices and are bored as balls, so consider this a live chat.

by Seth on Sep 25, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seth

I wish gallo would’ve stayed around with amare when they were done practicing…but I read on the knicksblog.com that he looks more muscular. Is that true? Also I heard is first steps a lil quicker and I read he was working on finishing at the hoop this off-season if so then I was on the money all season long lol. Those two things were the only things I could literally see needed improvement. If he’s doing good with those two areas there’s no reason to believe he can’t make the jump to 22ppg. Also, how did AR look?

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'll let you know after scrimmages!

Gallo does indeed look to be in good shape and Randolph looked sharp enough in drills. I need to see these guys run around a little more, though.

by Seth on Sep 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

kool

Special request for details when describing Gallo, AR, Toney, and Landry. I’ve taken a liking to Landry

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

his**

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Amare being a true leader of the team is quite invigorating =)

Staying after to shoot extra jumpers, being vocal from the sidelines. Knicks sure got one hell of a player in free agency.

by ap3604 on Sep 25, 2010 4:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

+1

I jus wish the young guns wud stay around n take the extra shots…til they can’t shoot anymore n need the rest

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1 for you and +1 for the other one

Amare doing stuff like this is pure leading by example.

And I wish I’d hear that Gallo, AR et.al are taking shirtless jumpers after practice too

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

for real!

and i was one of the guys clamoring for us to keep david lee. but only seeing the numbers. the difference in attitude is huge! especially for such a young team.

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by stingy d on Sep 25, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to be a leader when no games have been played.

We’ll see if he continues to lead when he is getting double and triple teamed everynight and is the focal point of the defense, and when the team is struggling. There is no doubting Amares talent, but doubting his leadership? Yeah, he’s going to have to prove he is a leader. His rep in PhX was whining and being the opposite of a leader at times.

by al's brick foundation on Sep 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

seth

What time does scrimmages end?

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 5:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Smoove. I look forward to ur analysis of our players.

In Donnie We Trust!

by IB on Sep 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keep on Posting...

Hey Seth, keep up the great work!
Really excited to hear about our team…I can’t really wait for the season to start. I am here in LALA land (Lakers) but i still bleeds BLUE n Orange …hahaha

by PinoyBBall on Sep 25, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

amen

In Minnesota instead of La La, but P&T is my umbilical cord to the drippy yet comforting womb of MSG.

by twincitiesknick on Sep 25, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oi kababayan!! galing pa aki dito sa pinas!!

just proving fi that nets guy is saying on his sig that the knicks matter only in new york… well here’s one international fan for you guys and i think there will be russians now….

Victory goes to the courageous!!

by PTfromRP on Sep 25, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

video from the scrimmages:

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/09/25/night-practice/

Mozgov is seriously enormous and moves so well. He whipped a beautiful pass from beyond the 3 point line to Walker under the basket too. I think Anthony Randolph can officially be upgraded from “scrawny” to “skinny” or maybe even “lean and mean.” His midrange J is looking pretty damn fine too. Amar’e is straight-up beasting on people, of course. Eddy Curry is still fat and watching him hit a jumper from the foul line is hilarious. I kind of hope he gets a lot of garbage minutes for comic relief, and ‘cause he needs to get a little burn if he’s ever going to play for another NBA team. There’s not much of Felton shooting but Tommy Dee says his jumper is looking better than ever and that he and Stat are already old pals. I think it’s going to be a good season.

by flossy on Sep 25, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Mozgov.....

Looks like he is about 7’6 in these vids. Dude is a monster.

by JerzeeBalla on Sep 25, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's probably a LEGIT 7'1 or so, maybe w/o shoes?

While a lot of these NBA guys are measured WITH shoes and even then seem to add an inch lol. Curry is supposedly 6’11" right? Moz is supposed to be just 2 inches taller? Why does he look significantly taller? Doesn’t seem right.

by jlaw on Sep 25, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

practice looks good

looks like they’re really competing. Felton as the starter and TD as the backup is a pretty solid PG rotation who can really push the ball, and like Tomm D said Felton’s jumper is better then a lot of people give credit for (especially if you scroll down on that blog, some idiot hates Felton).

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

very cool to see

but such a small excerpt… i can’t really tell whats going on. as in who’s really got it going, who doesn’t. tough to read the body language.

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by stingy d on Sep 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson Chandler

I really wanted to know if Chandler had a jumper or not.

by Mongoke on Sep 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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