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A week or two ago, Bill Walker posted a pretty long rant on his Twitter account about the NCAA, money, Cam Newton and all that hot mess. In the article linked above, Alan Hahn tracks him down for a few fleshed-out opinions on the topic. I don't want to start a debate in these parts, but it's worth a read. If you didn't already know, Bill's a sharp, sharp dude.

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Great read.

Bully clearly has put a lot of thought into this and I happen to agree with him and Hahn completely. What isn’t mentioned in that article is that Walker had like 2 or 3 knee surgeries during his time at K-State which basically derailed his chances of being a lottery pick after being one of the best high school ballers in the nation.

So his time in college basically cost him millions of dollars in guaranteed money in the league. The argument that athletic scholarships somehow equate to someone like Cam Newton’s revenue stream for their schools is bananas. The NCAA sucks

by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Jan 11, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

wish i had access

can’t read the article

When you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by Mase in Your Face! on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

I always thought Billy Walker was a smart dude

my fav snippet of him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3bY3oE4V4

btw can anyone post the full article for those that don’t have access to newsday?

by D'Apollo on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry guys

Forgot the free Newsday trial was over.

Unfortunately, I can’t let y’all post the full article over here.

by Seth on Jan 11, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Newsday

Seth, can’t you just do what Hahn does and link to the versions of his stories on Newsday’s mobile site (which will, unlike some other mobile sites, work on a web browser)? Mobile.newsday.com

That’s how I’ve been reading Hahn’s stuff for a while, outside of the brief free trial period. All his newspaper articles are in there, and most of his Knicks Fix pieces (including this one) wind up there, too.

by alsep73 on Jan 11, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

thanks

i was able to read it on there

When you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by Mase in Your Face! on Jan 11, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

love that video

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 11, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with walker

at minimum when a school is merchandising your name, compensation (even if you deducted from his cut the cost of his education) must be given.

Auburn will likely easily clear $1 million off Cam Newton alone this season, including sales of his jersey.

by cheers from manhattan on Jan 11, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

while I agree with Bullys

sentiments on the punishments for selling your own winnings and the double standard that exists, I disagree that the solution is to pay the athletes. To me, that feels like breaking more things in an already broken system.

The solution IMO is to figure out a way for profits (greed) to stop being the main driver of college sports. I know, easier said then done. Also, dont get me started on how the same issue of Greed is the real problem with America as a whole… but I digress.

Paying players seems like such a bad idea for a competitive standpoint. I loved how Auburn won the title game yesterday. I remember early in the college season my friend from Austin (big Longhorn fan… sickly obsessed really) was just laughing off the early words from Auburn that they were a title contender. We loved Gonzaga coming out of nowhere to shock the big names. If money was involved, I see it just exacerbating the difference between the haves and the have nots.

i also dont buy into the idea that a student athlete doesnt have time to get an education. Cry. Me. A. Fucking. River. I had friends working 3 jobs to support their education while in school. They didnt have the luxury of being gods on campus and their work being a game (they actually took their only time off to PLAY a game, since it helped them to unwind). I dont mean to discount it as easy, but seriously. Taking a redbull to finish your homework? Welcome to the real world Billy.

I am not saying that the system doesnt need to be fixed, and it is unfair for the double standard, but adding payment to players at the amateur level will completely remove the amateur label. If College turns professional, then what does that make High School?

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jan 11, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

While you're not wrong, and figuring out just and reasonable compensation for college players would only be opening up a pandora's box..

..I think Billy was just trying to point out that being an athlete on campus wasn’t the easy, carefree life it’s often portrayed to be. His basketball “job” was the same as other people working to pay off their tuition, and had the same academic stress the other students had. Your friends working three jobs was doing man work though. Big ups.

by GAx on Jan 11, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a sound solution from the article--
Let’s allow a college player to be drafted but remain in college… Let them play in the NBA Summer League for a stipend.

by cheers from manhattan on Jan 11, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

yep I agree

I’ve often said these guysw should hav the equivalent to a work study or internship.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Jan 11, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Of Course #5 is right

My solution is for the NBA and NFL to developer proper minor leagues ala MLB. The guys that think college is a benefit will go and those who what to be pros can be pros and get paid. Enough of the forced amateurism.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

That would be great but think of the pressures on both sides

The money involved in the college basketball system is incredible, and the established system will lobby significantly against the creation of minor leagues as it would take away all the talent in college basketball and lead to declining revenues.

Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code

by Kupe on Jan 12, 2011 5:16 AM EST up reply actions  

The association (NCAA) may be not for profit,

but the universities that are members of it certainly are. If they weren’t than tuition wouldn’t be at $45,000. The colleges that are NBA breeding grounds make a significant percentage of their revenue from their basketball programs; selling tickets, merchandise, and advertising. An NBA minor league system that targets high schoolers as extensively as the MLB and NHL do would be a huge threat to these college’s business processes.
We live in a capitalist society, and cash is king; to even say that the benefits exchanged between colleges and their prominent student athletes are equal is just laughable. The athlete generates millions for a school and they get an education worth less than 20% of that.
This also ignores the fact that a lot of basketball players on scholarships wouldn’t have to pay the tuition fees due to financial aid, so they really aren’t getting much out of the deal but a place to showcase their skills which should be substituted by a proper minor league system.
Mind you, this really only extends to the athletes that have NBA draft potential. These are the ones that account for the most money for a college and would actually take the risk of attending an NBA farm system in hopes of turning Pro.

Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code

by Kupe on Jan 12, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

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