Fesenko serves as a reminder tonight
What's up posties,
My students are taking standarized tests all day so I don't have a lot to do (actually there's a lot I could be doing but I don't feel like it). My mind kept wandering to the Knicks need for a true center, and it occurred to me that tonight we could get an extended look at Fesenko, and that should remind us all of an important truth...
Big men can take a lot of time to develop.
Some big men can take a really long time.
Fesenko was drafted four years ago, and he's still not really playing a whole lot... but he is playing well. His numbers won't blow anybody away because Sloan keeps his minutes on a tight leash, but I've caught my share of Jazz games this year, and when he plays, he really gets it done. He pretty much spent the first three years of his career as a practice cone, but this year he has become part of the rotation (and we know that's a huge deal in Jerry Sloan's rotation).
It reminded me that most of the big men we covet around the league we're really frustrating to their current teams as rookies and sophomores. Think about it:
Deandre Jordan- he's getting no media shine because he plays next to Blake Griffin, but check out his numbers since he's been starting over the last month or two. This is his third year and he's becoming a force (also note how it coincides with the Clippers winning more games recently). During his rookie year, he was a brick and a turnover waiting to happen.
Javale McGee- he's still young, and he still makes bad decisions, but no one can deny that he made a huge jump from his rookie year. He received an invite from Team USA because they can see that he's really starting to put it together. Some nights he's frighteningly good. Those nights will become more consistent in a few years.
Tyson Chandler- one of the better true centers in the league right now. Geez, it seems like that guy was bad forever back on the Bulls.
Joakim Noah- He was always a tenacious defender and rebounder, but he also made Bulls fans groan by a)fouling every second and b) shooting corkscrew airballs... a lot
Roy Hibbert- He's become a key piece of there core now, but last year opponents would delight in exploiting his slowness and his propensity to foul. Now opponents have to design defensive strategies to stop him when he gets the ball in the post. And he's still got lots of potential.
Marc Gasol- Everybody made fun of this guy at first because of the trade he was involved in, and the fact that he's a little chubby, but looks like people want him now.
The point is, almost every big man with few exceptions frustrates their fanbase the first year or two (or three or four), and some fans don't even know to be frustrated because they never get to see the big man play meaningful minutes. This is a just a reminder to Knicks fans that both Anthony Randolph and Timofey Mozgov are both so young and raw. I still believe that they will both be great (at the very least solid rotation guys) players in a few years. Unless it's a lopsided trade in our favor, we should not be calling for them to be packaged in any trades. They will be a big, big part of the future going forward.
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This definitely true, I’d like to see the Knicks stand pat and wait for the summer to get a solid 5 to fill the role and let Mozgov and Randolph develop with them hopefully becoming quality starters in a few years.
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Maybe Donnie can find a one or two year rental while AR and Mozzie are still in the oven.
Also, I really want to see the Knicks bring in a big man coach besides Herb Williams. I don’t know how much D’Antoni can teach those guys about banging in the paint.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 12, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
Hoping to see the full potential of both Mozzie and Randolph. But if a trade for a quality center comes out of the woodwork, then I say we grab it.
I agree on waiting for Mozgov,
but AR has, without a doubt, the lowest basketball IQ of any player I have ever seen. His trade value will never be higher than it is now. I say get rid of him while we still can.
agreeeeeeeeee...
once moz gets rid of the nba jitters, i can see him turning into something. AR… not so much. the kid shows all kinds of signs of becoming another poster boy for going to college, or maybe even staying in high school a couple more years.
by bucketsncents on Jan 12, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
i remember once upon a time when wilson chandler was infuriating randy is learning a new system so let him learn
Victory goes to the courageous!!
While i don't think AR has the lowest basketball IQ of any player I have ever seen
I will admit that it is pretty low. But that is a facet of his lack of coaching. Randolph is the poster child for why some guys need to pull a 4 year shift in college before turning pro. Especially big guys. Randolph needs coaching and alot of it. He also needs to continue to develop physically, it is clear the guy still hasn’t fully grown into his body yet. Remember the guy would be in his senior year of college ball at LSU right now had he stayed. I say we consider this a red-shirt year for him. Hopefully the coaching staff is continuing to coach him up and teach him what he needs to do to be productive. From all reports the coaches do not feel that Randolph is resistant to coaching, even if he does not catch on quickly and does not seem to have a bad attitude. So write him off for this year and look at him like getting an additional draft pick for next season.
by Robert Curre on Jan 14, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
or better yet our first round draft pick this year
Victory goes to the courageous!!
OK After watchingthe 1st half against Utah I'm revising your title
Fesenko serves as a reminder tonight
Don’t Eat A Box Of Orios Before The Game
what about "Oreos"?
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 12, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
it happens man it happens... we human right?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
too much icing fucks with your cellbrains!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 13, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
starts a slow clap
well said. And nice reference to Sloans Rotation. Is he stingy with min like our main man Mike D?
I would bet for Moz and AR it helps having the other around. I hope they are working together often. Young guys, one from Germany, then Texas and the other from Russia. Both in similar situations working to improve together. Sounds like a sitcom.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
I would like to see them fight crime together
Free Randolph!!
(With your purchase of one Eddy Curry)
Something tells me that if we are patient there is going to come a day when we will
be happy we stuck it out with both guys. They are part of the reason why I believe this team can be better next year even if we don’t make a trade this season and get shut out in FA. We are pretty good right now and we get nothing from them. Imagine if both guys can be even mediocre players off the bench next season.
by Robert Curre on Jan 14, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions

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