The worst unit on a good team has been the Knicks' Raymond Felton, Landry Fields, Danilo Gallinari,...

The worst unit on a good team has been the Knicks' Raymond Felton, Landry Fields, Danilo Gallinari, Amar'e Stoudemire and Ronny Turiaf, which has been outscored by 6.5 points per 100 possessions in 108 minutes.

John Schuhmann

In studying five-man units, Schuhmann finds that one of Mike D'Antoni's oft-used starting lineups has been rather ineffective. Interesting. On a lighter note, the Knicks are among the league's most improved teams in terms of efficiency. (Tip of the hat to 100% dundee).

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thats my starting line up

in 2k11 and i’m beastin it! but my other favorite unit is felt, toney, chandler, amare, and AR. in 2k11 of course. but in real life, i think that unit shuhmann wrote about would be our most effective unit due to safaris defense/rebounding. apparently not effective offensively, but if the other team isnt scoring due to better defense, then we got stat, cock, and felt to pour in some points. i cant wait til feltons completely healthy.

by bobitostretch on Jan 21, 2011 1:52 AM EST reply actions

oh god here come the comments

but yeah wilson needs to start somewhere…

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by ny knickerbocker on Jan 21, 2011 1:57 AM EST reply actions

Probably shows that if we had a C that could score more than 4.5pts a game

they wouldn’t be last on this list.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 21, 2011 5:37 AM EST reply actions

Or maybe just one that was a better rebounder.

by fuhry on Jan 21, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions

Turiaf and Field

Turiaf and Landry are offensive non-factors so this is not surprising. Turiaf’s defense is even overrated, he can block shots but can’t rebound. There was a reason a D’Antoni was nutting himself over Mozgov at the beginning of the year and it was over the thought of not having to play Turiaf.

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by Ball Chat on Jan 21, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions

But Mozgov can't rebound either

I think this is the Knicks’ biggest problems. Giving up an offensive rebound is one of the most demoralizing plays in basketball and the Knicks do a lot of it. I wouldn’t say Fields is a non-factor offensively. At all. He’s more of an opportunistic guy out there but he finds a way to score points. And I firmly believe his rebounding has won us a few games.

by fuhry on Jan 21, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

Hmm interesting

I still like this lineup though. Turiaf usually does better offensively if Stat is sitting and TD is on the floor, too. Agree with Rorschach, a better center could probably improve things dramatically

by WSD on Jan 21, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions

draMATICALLY

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 21, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions

The knicks frighten me, but always concerned me, amare has. Happy to see him leave the west, I was. If melo ends up in new york, then the east becomes the stronger and more scary conference. Hmmmmmm.

Looking forward to tonights game, am I.

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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 21, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions

I read your post.

And hear the dad of the girl in KickAss

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 21, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions

Something we get on dagobah movies are not, so im sure what you are referencing. Take it as a complement I shall.

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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 21, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions

KickAss, the movie

the fa…..nvm

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 21, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions

I love a lot of what Ronny brings to the table

But it’s a little frustrating that he won’t even look at the basket on offense sometimes. He is a good passer, but it sometimes seems like that skill is borne of a desperation to get the ball out of his hands as fast as possible. I know he will never become a big time scoring threat and that’s fine, but seeing him pass up decent shots less than 10 feet from the bucket is really aggravating. He can hit a 12-15 foot jumper, he just never, ever takes them unless he has absolutely no other choice.

If other teams didn’t have the luxury of not defending him at all, I think you would see lineups featuring Turiaf fare a hell of a lot better.

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by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Jan 21, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions