Trade Proposal: Gut the team for an amazing core
Here is a 4 team trade I thought up with the ESPN Trade Machine. If we did this we would basically gut out roster but we would have the potential for an absolutely amazing core with a star at every position that could easily contend with Miami's Big 3.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=354gw8r
Also, I am kind of confused about how the salary trade exception works so I didn't include it, but I am sure it could be used to help out the other teams. And if a draft pick needs to be included here or there then so be it.
Teams involved: Knicks, Hornets, Timberwolves, Pacers
Knicks get: Chris Paul, Kevin Love, Danny Granger
Knicks give: Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph, Timofey Mozgov, Landry Fields, Ronny Turiaf, Andy Rautins, Shawne Williams
Hornets get: Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Jeff Foster
Hornets give: Chris Paul
Timberwolves get: Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph, Timofey Mozgov, Landry Fields
Timberwolves give: Kevin Love, Luke Ridnour
Pacers get: Danilo Gallinari, Ronny Turiaf, Andy Rautins, Shawne Williams, Luke Ridnour
Pacers give: Danny Granger, Jeff Foster
Benefits for the Knicks: We get Chris Paul who is the best point guard in the NBA. We get Danny Granger who is one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA. We get Kevin Love who is the best rebounder in the NBA. We already have Amare Stoudemire. And this trade leaves us with enough cap space to sign Carmelo Anthony and fill out our bench. All of these players could score 20+ points per game and all of them are considered among the best at their respective positions. Our projected lineup would be 1. Paul 2. Granger 3. Anthony 4. Love 5. Stoudemire
Drawbacks for the Knicks: We are now down 7 players and our bench is empty. Obviously we would have to sign some free agents and maybe call some players from the D-League. Without a bench we are probably screwed for the rest of the year.
Benefits for the Hornets: They get a great all-around player in Chandler who can shoot and get to the hoop and has a natural ability to score. They also get a good big man who can play good defense and back up Emeka Okafur. Not to mention they also get Felton who is a great replacement for Paul. They also gain a little salary relief if they choose to be active in the free agent market next offseason.
Drawbacks for the Hornets: They lose the best point guard in the game.
Benefits for the Timberwolves: They get two young big men who have the potential to be the next Kevin Love. They also get Landry Fields who is a dynamic all around player with potential to improve. Also, Kevin Love only has one more year on his contract after this season so this provides them with some added stability for the future. Even though they lose their best player, he wasn't really doing much good for the team when they don't have a supporting cast.
Drawbacks for the Timberwolves: They lose the best rebounder in the NBA and take on Eddy Curry's expiring contract.
Benefits for the Pacers: They two great 3 point shooters to replace Granger. They get a quality veteran point guard to teach Darren Collison as well as a young potential player in Rautins.
Drawbacks for the Pacers: They lose Danny Granger and give up any hope they had to make the playoffs this year.
If my math is correct the Knicks would have about $45 million committed to 6 players next season (Paul, Love, Granger, Stoudemire, Tony Douglas and Bill Walker). If we could convince Carmelo to take a paycut similar to how Lebron, Wade and Bosh did and maybe if we got one of those trade exceptions to come to us then we should be able to have a great top five. Then it would just be a matter of finding minimum salary free agents similar to what the Heat did last offseason.
I know this is a million percent unrealistic but what do you guys think?
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I think I'm gonna shove ice picks in my eyes and castrate myself with a pair of pliers
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 8, 2011 2:07 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
we are not the Nets
we have talent and can develope players
Let me see if i understand this correctly
We give up 10 players and receive 3. I won’t even begin to explore how unbelievably impossible
to execute this would be, and just say that not even a Nets fan would imagine this happening.
Dude! The knicks are good now! We don’t have to invent stupid crazy fucking trades anymore in the hopes
Of saving our team! Stop!
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Jan 8, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
"I know this is a million percent unrealistic but what do you guys think?"
I think it’s a million percent unrealistic. I also like how all of these recent ridiculous trades on P&T fanposts just involve 3 other teams bending over backwards to trade us their best players. No other teams would ever do a deal that would give one team such a surplus of all-stars.
I think ur secretly David Kahn
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jan 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions
Okay I am gonna take this seriously
No the trade sucks and actually does not even make us a better team. If you have not noticed, Felton is actually playing better than Chris Paul is right now, so I doubt I trade Felton for Paul let alone Felton and Chandler for him. That is giving up way too much actual on the court production for a player who the only way you can claim is better than Felton now is to go solely on past performance and reputation. As of today Paul has a bigger name but is not a better player than Raymond Felton at best you can say they are equal, which makes including Chandler ridiculous. And keeping in the vein of though around Chandler, Chandler may be equal to or better than Granger is at the moment. Secondly Granger has a terrible contract and is 5 years older meaning Granger is not as good an investment long term and really isn’t even a great win now move. he has a better jumpshot than Chandler, but does nothing else significantly better than he does and Chandler is better in the open floor and on drives.
Lastly Love, who is the oly player in this deal who can give us something we do not have, has been declared untouchable by his GM and frankly what we are offering for him would not be enough to get Love, nor do the Timberwolves need cap space. Remember they are under the cap! Lastly as crazy as the Wolves GM is he is not stupid. Remember he wants Randolph and is only interested in giving up Telfair, who he probably is gonna waive when Flynn comes back. He is certainly not giving up Love for two players who are not even in our Rotation!
So it is not that your trade is just unrealistic, it is! but Also it is a trade that does not make the Knicks any better of a team than they are now. This is a video game trade or a fantsy league trade but would not work here.
Lastly the Knicks do not need to do any such madness, we are actually already pretty good.
Umm
Sorry man did you just say Felton is as good as Paul? Paul’s a better shooter and rebounder and turns the ball over less while getting slightly more assists, even this year.
I love Felton, but you’d be crazy not to trade Felton for Paul straight up.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Yes I did
Felton is playing just as well as paul is right now. Number and while you would trade Felton for Paul straight up that was not the deal under consideration but Felton and Chandler for Paul. And I do not care how much superstar nut slurping fans want to do, there is no way and hell that any GM who deserves to keep his job, gives up that much on the floor production to get Paul back. That is a great trade for New Orleans! But no i wouldn’t be crazy not to. Did you forget that Paul tore his meniscus last year? Do you know that injuries to the Meniscus become chronic, because it is a repeitive use injury. Do you realize that Paul will probably miss time next season for the same problem since it is a usage injury not a trauma one. Do you realize that with each repair the recover time is longer and the player loses explosiveness. and given that Paul relies on his quicks not being able to blow by people might be a problem. So no, Who is the better point guard the one on the floor, not the one with the bigger shoe deal! Felts is hanging with paul right now, and in two years will be better. So nope Wouldn’t even do it straight up. Paul is damaged goods!
by Robert Currence on Jan 9, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
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This is…..wow. Every time I see I would not trade (insert name of PG here not including Deron Williams) for Chris Paul, I think people are nuts. Chris Paul’s production is still insane, and Raymond Felton plays in a higher pace environment with better teammates and a better bench (seriously, have you seen the NOH bench?). Look, the trade is ridiculous, but if there’s one part of the trade I’d do, it’s the first one.
by B- on Jan 10, 2011 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
you gotta remember with these arguments tho
when comparing these players you gotta take the overall team and it’s future into account. It’s not just a matter of who is better than who, Felton or Paul? You also gotta think, well if we have Amare making x amount of money and we wanna sign Chandler for y amount of money, does it make sens to pay out a max contract to Paul when we’re getting strong production outta Felton at a much better price?
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jan 10, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Uhhh seriously?
I know this is an old post but i created an account just to say, for real?!?!?!?! In what possible way can you say Raymond Felton is playing better than Chris Paul? Statistically? Team success? Defensively? Raymond Felton is doing none of these things and although he’s playing well Chris Paul is head and shoulders better than him right now. Not to mention D’Antoni’s offense is a made to look PG’s look good. Most people forget but Chris Duhon had a 20 assist game in his first year and everyone thought he was the bees knees too. Raymond Felton is older, he plays more minutes and frankly does everything on the basketball court worse than Chris Paul does. I would trade Felton and Chandler for Chris Paul today and sleep well at night.
by VoiceO'Reason on Jan 26, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna give you to the count of 10, to get your ugly, yellow, no-good keister off my property, before I pump your guts full of lead! 1... 2... 10!

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
by gbaked on Jan 8, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
i dont really feel this strongly
but I saw this movie the other day and thought it would be funny. I dont promote violence.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
the worst part
is that this trade doesnt even really make us any better
the funny thing about this trade
is that even though the Knicks are gutting their team, they’re the only ones who would actually have to ponder a decision. i don’t think donnie would pull the trigger, but he would at least mull it over.
the other three teams would laugh into the phone before hanging up. all three of those teams are in dire financial straits and can’t afford to trade their star players. as much as i love wil the thril and gallo, they aren’t selling season ticket packages by themselves quite yet.
by latrell chokewell on Jan 8, 2011 3:50 PM EST reply actions
well at least gallo would bring the ladies to the games just to watch him
Victory goes to the courageous!!
and then date them and tell the press they're just fans
dammit he is to cool for words
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jan 9, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddd
/// aighttho.com \\\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\\
as i said in my post...
me thinks we’re addicted/hooked/obsessed/habituated to looking forward to trades and changes because the past 10 or so years have given us no “nows” to enjoy… every game has been virtually torture.
and i’m just as guilty as all the trade machine guys…
but the first step in recovery is awareness and i’m now aware how addicted i’ve been to the horizon and the hope that trade speculation brings.
trade speculation is fun… but watching our games and our current guys HAS BEEN EVEN MORE FUN.
STAND DOWN DONNIE!!!!!!!! HOLD THE LINE DONNIE!!!!!
by bucketsncents on Jan 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Your name speaks the truth.
Stick to baseball.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 8, 2011 5:37 PM EST reply actions
Yo this trade was some Mets-level shit, but let's not throw a new guy out the window for posting one crazy trade
by GAx on Jan 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
seriously, the rookie hazing can be rough...
let’s cut him some slack and “teach” rather than torment.
mr. bobby baseball, regarding trade suggestions… try, if you can, to suggest trades that don’t make you seem too intoxicated… but if you do feel compelled to suggest such far-fetched, homeristic trades, specify that you are in fact intoxicated.
yours truly,
from personal experience
by bucketsncents on Jan 8, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry. I guess I am intoxicated.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on Jan 9, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
trade fever is a very real problem that effects many a sports fan
ur not the first and ur not alone. it’ll be cool bobby
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jan 9, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
super unrealistic
you’d be a lousy GM for the knicks. seriously.
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Jan 9, 2011 8:20 AM EST reply actions
your crazy man, CRAZY!. Why should stoop to the heats level man cmon.. This is the NEW NY!
by Rilly Rill NYKs! on Jan 9, 2011 4:21 PM EST reply actions
I don't even know why ....
I’m wasting my time to comment on how absurd this scenario is …..
seriously? are you stupid. the most unrealistic thing ive ever seen
by The Chair of Knowledge on Jan 9, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions
is your last name by any chance Surella?
by The Chair of Knowledge on Jan 9, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions
Is it just me or does the title of this post make you want to go out
and buy one of those ab machines off of television!
Better luck next time.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jan 10, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions
"I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey
and we wouldn’t have to give up that much."
-GC
When you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.
by Mase in Your Face! on Jan 11, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions

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