The Future of Landry Fields
by Chairman Meow on Nov 12, 2011 2:23 PM EST
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PrintOne of the major stories of last year was the emergence of Landry Fields, a guy most of us had never heard of before draft night. In the P&T draft recap, Seth said that he was "at a loss for words" at the selection. But as the season progressed, it later became apparent that this nerd from Stanford could ball.
Landry finished the season with 9.7 points per game, 6.4 rebounds per game, and 1.9 assists per game, at an average of 31 minutes per. Do these look like the numbers of a starting 2 guard in the NBA? Probably not. But as anyone who has watched a Knick game last year, particularly a pre-Melo one, will tell you, numbers don't tell the whole story with Landry. He's a "glue man," doing little things that inexplicably seem to help the Knicks win.
But his numbers dropped off after the trade. He found scoring chances hard to come by with two stars on the team, and going into the next season, one of the story lines will be how he plays.
So the question is, what is the future of Landry? Will he continue to be a starter? What aspects of his game does he need to improve? Will Spike Lee continue to wear jersey's that go to his knees? It's questions like these that make me pray to Young Based God every day for a basketball season.
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I believe in Landry
He looked totally lost after the trade. If there is a season this year, not having a full training camp isn’t going to help him get more comfortable playing with Melo. But he seems like he has all the tools to be a great complementary player for this team (although his defense could still use some work – but he puts in the effort and I’m confident that with more experience he’ll get better there). I have faith that with some more time, he’ll get a better sense of where he needs to be for spacing and when he should cut inside with Melo on the floor.
If I was in Charge
Yes L.Fields should stay for the better of the New York Knickerbockers.
Why?
He is a great fit as the backup to C.Anthony at the three in te rotation along with helping out with defending the usual top scorer for the other team.
As the GM I would restructure our starting PG, SG and C positons first.
Then with L.Fields being backup SF he could then play at times with a true center and have C.Anthony switch to PF.
Good stuff once we get a starting PG, SG and C.
Suggestions:
PG/2012 D.Williams or R.Felton
SG/2011 O.J.Mayo
C/2011 D.Jordan
Would be nice if Stoudemare & Mayo stop taking so many shots.
Amare, unlike David Lee, is more interested in being a VOLUME shooter
than an alround player, ie, rebounder, passer, shooter, help out defender.
Toney promises more of the same; once he crosses his half court-looking to hoist
up a 3 pt shot.
David Lee's teams never win tho
maybe he should take more shots
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hey Frankiec you and Dizzy trolling on the same post?
I thought there was some rule against that. Good to see you are consistent bro. And yeah love how you continue to misspell Amare’s last name. You’re defiant Vato and I like that!
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I like Landry off the bench, as a back-up at the 3.
I think he can really use his athleticism and off-ball skills on the wing. And we can really have a highly athletic run-and-gun unit with Toney, Landry and Iman on the court together. Seems like they’d be pretty good on the perimeter defensively as well (at least on paper).
I'm not as high on Landry as some people around here are
the fact of the matter is, he is a Role Player because he does not have much of a scoring arsenal and he is slow in some ways. BUT I say Landry will look better next season than the end of the last season. He needs a flowing offense because he doesn’t have the handle or lightening quick release to be effective in a slow, half court game. His and Gallo’s passing I think got underrated last season. They tended to make smart passes on the perimeter and that’s a boon to any team’s offense. He will be fine if he can get his niche back and add some more polish to his game which I expect him to do.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
Landry is actually really good in the open floor
On fast breaks it seems like he always makes the right decision. But yeah, he doesn’t do as well with two guys that like to go iso. Also, having Billups know the plays a little better will definitely help the offense and thus help Landry
Should there be a training camp and season
I’m VERY excited to see he and Shump go at it for a starter’s spot. Personally, I like Landry starting a little better because he’s now played a full season, and he doesn’t really do any one thing execellently; he’s kind of an all-around player. So as a starter I think he fits better doing a little of everything, than say off the bench and asking him to be a scorer, or defender, or rebounder, etc.
Do you guys not listen to a word D'Antoni says?
Shumpert = Back up point guard. Landry = shooting guard/ back up small forward should Shawne Williams and Bill Walker wet the bed next season and Pringles needs to shorten the rotation to save his ass.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Why Listen Lord Currence?
D’Antoni is as good as gone now that the season is about to end for 2011.
As the song goes:
See You In September!
That is September 2012
Sorry Dizzy but the loss of a season would put a crimp in your plans dude
It slipped out in the hiring of Mike Woodson, that in the case of the entire season being canceled that D’Antoni and all of his assistants would be given an automatic extension for the 2012-13 season. I agreed with you on the point that this season if it is played is likely D’Antoni’s last, however you will have one more year to bitch and moan about Pringles while pining for Christian Laettner if this season is canceled.
by Robert Curre on Nov 15, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't aggressive enough after we got Melo
In fact he almost disappeared. I have always been a huge Landry fan, I really love his game. I think he might be less reluctant to shoot and be a better fit off the bench. Melo is certainly not going anywhere, so if Shumpert shows anything, which I think he will, then Landry will probably end up on the bench where he hopefully turns into the super sub that every championship team needs.
There's no shame in being a solid 6th man
which he’d actually probably share with Tony. I would love to see a healthy Tony at full strength and a focused/confident Landry building chemistry and feasting on the second unit. If Shump is anywhere near our hopes, I see him as a better fit at 1st team SG (but as I write this I still question his readiness). If we play unselfish and fast paced ball (not holding it), it could be deadly. If the lockout gifted us anything, it’s the chance to have our team at 100% strength.
again why is it that you guys do not listen to the one man who has say in who plays and at what
position. Shumpert will play point guard, Whenever he is on the floor he will play point guard. If he is on the floor with Landry he will play point guard, if he is on the floor with Douglas he will play point guard, if he is on the floor with Billups he will play point guard.
Geesh, this is why you guys get so frustrated and lose it when D’Antoni does the things he does, because no one around here listens to the man. He said he drafted Shumpert to play point guard, that he was the “best point guard” they worked out (and the Knicks worked out a ton of point guards before the draft by the way. So what part of Shumpert is playing point guard do you guys seem to be missing. Now maybe he will be moved to shooting guard next season when Mike Woodson, Phil Jackson, or Patrick Ewing is head coach, but as for right now the man who decides who plays and where has been saying the kid will play point guard.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Not mine D'Antoni's he is the one who will have to answer the 5000 questions of why
Shumpert is not the starting 2 guard.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
How many shooters do you need with Carmelo, Amare and Billups jacking up shots at the rate
they do. Hell if we had OJ Mayo instea of Fields there would have been a fight in the locker room.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Love Landry, but the guy plays the wrong postiion
Sure he can play the two, but we need a 2 who drills it from 3 and can guard quick 2’s. I’m not saying get rid of Landry, just that I’m not sold on him being a starter when this team is finally ‘built’ <——- not for this season of course, just after we get CP3/other FA’s
We will get CP3 and no other Free agents.
math is still math. the projected salary cap will be 58 mil. That means we will have to shed players like Toney Douglas, Balkman, and renounce Landry to get far enough under the cap to give Paul his money. So you are right he will not be starting on the Knicks when “CP3,” is here because he will not be a Knick when Paul is here.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Landry shot 39% from 3. and defensively did a fine job against most of the mysterious quick
2’s you are referring to. Fields’ problems on defense are simple, he squares up too much which makes him susceptible to cross overs, and he has a tendency to get top heavy in his stance (bend to much at the waist) that robs a player of lateral quickness. When he did not make those mistakes he actually did a decent job defensively.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm concerned about Landry's chemistry with Melo
I think that the explanation for last season is that their games clash. Of course, it could be that Landry really suffered from Felton leaving. In any case, I see the Knicks starting
Chauncey
Toney
Melo
Amar’e
Turiaf
bringing Shump, Landry, and some combo of Jorts, Extra E and/or Jerome Jordan off the bench.
Aside from chemistry issues, I think Landry’s rebounding prowess is negated by Melo’s – and I think having Landry on the floor when Melo rests will provide needed rebounding help as well.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Landry's game and Melo's game have little to do with each other.
Landry’s problem is actually the result of a few issues that are only marginally tied to Carmelo. Fields was drafted by the Knicks because he fit a system that the post trade Knicks did not play on any thing resembling a consistent basis. The reason they did not play D"Antoni’s offense was because the Knicks swapped Felton for Billups as part of the trade to get Carmelo. They ended up swapping point guards, because Dolan’s interference(on the instructions of Isiah) in the trade negotiations drove up the price for Carmelo (the original deal that Denver wanted was Chandler, Curry, and 2 first round picks. It was while Donnie was negotiating the Randolph to Minny for a first rounder that the whole thing went to hell in a hand basket). As a result the Knicks traded a point guard who was committed to running D’antoni’s system, the very system Fields was drafted to play in because he fit it, for a guard who is either not committed to playing the system or unable to play the system. Thus Fields struggled. However his main problem was that he ended up on a team with Chauncey Billups and not really that he ended up playing with Carmelo.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I like to hear that
But I do think that perhaps Landry and Melo clash in their rebounding styles.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
dark
Most Definitely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGTVp-gHtU
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Ray sorry dude but he came home is getting paid 83 million
and he and our real team President, want his little friend to come here for another 100 mil. There is only so much money to go around and that means that guys like Fields will have to be let go. Besides I have him going to the Lakers, he grew up a Laker fan and Kobe was his childhood idol, Lakers need some decent young players if they are going to continue to compete at a high level, and Landry fits the bill. Something tells me the kid will not be bummed out if he ends up playing for the Lakers. Prediction landry gets a put back dunk over Carmelo to win game 7 of the 2013 finals.
by Robert Curre on Nov 14, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Extremely Dark
Luckily for us, there isn’t going to be any 2013 finals, that will be year 2 of the 3 year lockout that will turn the NBA into essentially a minor league for the new ABA.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
not sure about him as a starter
with the current makeup of the roster, anyway. When the Knicks’ offense was about quick ball movement and good spacing, he fit in very well, but he’s very out of place in their isolation-heavy attack these days and he’s can’t guard top-level two guards well enough to make up for it. I think Shump’s gonna take his starting spot at some point next season.
who were all of the top level two guards he had to play.
He had one bad series against Ray Allen (and that has happened to a lot of people). But by and large to didn’t go from town to town getting lit up by the other teams shooting guards.
And again we need to actually follow our team. “Shumpert’s minutes will not in any way reduce Landry Fields minutes.” “Shumpert is a point guard and we plan to use him at the point even when he plays on the floor with Chauncey.”
Lastly the Knicks will not be an isolation heavy attack, because that is not D’Antoni’s offense. Billups will either need to run D’Antoni’s offense the way he wants it run or someone else will be running it. D’Antoni is not going to be in a situation where he is fighting for his job, and allow the team to play a style of basketball that he does not believe. He allowed that foolishness to go on last season out of expediency. If Shumpert ends of taking anybody’s spot it will probably be Billups
by Robert Curre on Nov 16, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
hopefully we will be about quick ball movement and good spacing again
even if Carmelo and Amar’e are talented, I do not like the iso-heavy play
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
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