Non-Game Thread: 11/2/11
by Seth on Nov 2, 2011 8:21 PM EDT
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PrintHey babies. I'm not sure exactly how I'd like to do this, but I do know that I'm going to miss game threads terribly during this lockout. Tonight would have been our first game thread of the season. I'd like for P&T to still be a regular place for us to just gather and jabber, so I'm just going to post threads anyway. I've been thinking about centering them around particular televised events or topics or whatever, but I'm undecided and still haven't gotten much response from y'all.
So, um, hey! I'm watching the encore of Unguarded on ESPN right now. I have a belly full of sushi. What's up with y'all?
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Would anyone like to have a discussion/argument with me
to continue with this amnestying Melo for either Deron or Paul business that was started in the other post? I’m a little shocked that there were people saying they’d actually consider it.
I don’t have to do this here, Seth, if you don’t want me too, though.
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Anyway
I think the Knicks wouldn’t even consider such a thing, whether or not it’s logical. I think the possibility of saving the amnesty for someone other than Balkman would solely be with the possibility of a terrible injury in mind.
what about saving it to trade for a bad contract
from a team that had more than one? and then get someone good thrown in. sneaky style. i am way too depressed about basketball to actually sketch out a legitimate name-dropping hypothetical though.
i miss knicks.
in conclusion, i will now loot my child’s leftover halloween haul.
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility
although wouldn’t the player’s original team just amnesty him themselves?
not if they had an even worse contract
that they amnestied instead. like if we had amnestied eddy and were looking to trade j-james. or something.
yes. i wonder too.
also, i decided on kitkat to start. it was tasty.
I remember reading
that wouldn’t be allowed. The player had to be under contract as of a certain date or something to that effect.
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you are right Seth
they would never consider it. Amnestying is for completely useless players who are getting paid a ton of money. Right now Carmelo is more than worth his contract.
Even if you would do it for basketball reasons because you think Paul and Deron are better players, from a money point of view it makes no sense. Carmelo is one of the most popular players in the league, more popular than Paul and way more popular than Deron.
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I'm saying they shouldn't . . .
It’d be ridiculous for any team with a top 20ish player to amnesty him!
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Yes
Although I think the argument people were making is that he’d be worth the amnesty if that money could somehow be used to sign somebody they perceive to better, like Chris Paul. It’s reasonable to think that’s ridiculous, though. Has everything to do with your appraisal of Melo’s skillset.
well, if we are talking about a melo-for-paul/deron swap that occurs in a vacuum that is one thing
I personally think Carmelo is a better player than them both (and I say this as a pretty big fan of both of them) but to actually amnesty him so we can pick one of those guys in free agency will never, ever happen. It would actually be one of the most controversial (and in my opinion, dumbest) moves by a franchise in the history of the NBA
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Wait wait wait wait
Right now Carmelo is more than worth his contract
Carmelo is worth more than his contract? 3 yrs, $65 mil extension? Sorry, I know you love him, and he’s a damn good player, but he is not worth 21-22 million dollars per year!
he is to the Knicks . . .
he makes them a ton of money. And he’d probably get more than the max on the open market anyway
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You can't get more than the max.
Hence why it’s called the “maximum”
well, I mean if there were no maximum
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What?
I’m not trying to be mean here, but I don’t know what you’re saying. From my point of view, Carmelo is a near unstoppable scorer, a good rebounder, and an OK passer and defender. I’d put in my top 10 around 7-9, personally.
However, he eats up more cap space than Stoudemire, he’s generally untrusting of teammates (as in he only passes when he doesn’t have much of a shot), and he isn’t really a great leader.
Say the cap is $60 million, he makes over a third of our total cap space. Really, except for Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, and maybe Dwight because he’s the only dominant center in the game, I don’t think anyone in the league is worth the money that Carmelo currently makes
there was story somewhere about how Lebron and Dwight would make much more than their contracts if it were a completely open market
I think they are worth double their contracts or something. Carmelo wouldn’t be valued at double his contract, but he would be worth more than he is currently paid.
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yeah here's an agent saying Lebron could be worth as much as $50 million in a completely open market
that sounds like a bit much, but Lebron’s definitely worth way more than the max and so is Carmelo.
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whoops, here's the link
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James Dolan without a salary cap
The man loves to bid against himself. What would happen if there was nothing to stop him?
I’m getting shivers up my spine just thinking about it (alleviated somewhat by remembering that we don’t have an impetuous GM anymore…not that we have any type of GM anymore, except an interim one I guess).
If you take into account the extra interest in NY, then from a business viewpoint, Melo is definitely going to bring in much more money than he currently costs and could justifiably be paid a commensurate amount in an open market.
If you consider basketball only and leave commercial opportunities out of it, I’d say his worth is lower than other players’, because he requires more of a team around him in order for the team to really succeed.
But what price do you put on basketball success alone, separate from the financial benefits that basketball success brings, or the commercial opportunities that interest in superstars generates? Seems like the type of philosophical question that’s at the heart of this cursed lockout (amongst others of course).
Goodnight, crickets.
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i think we should all be careful with judging melo at the moment
First things first, (for what it’s worth) he was ranked as the 10th-11th best player in the NBA on ESPN’s value list. That’s after a down year for him in which he wasn’t completely healthy, played amidst constant trade speculation on a stale team, then was traded to a completely new team in which he needed to make adjustments on the fly. If this list were made the year before, he’d be ranked higher. The guy has carried a team deep into the playoffs before, coming within 2 games of an NBA Finals.
Bottom line is he is one of (if not) the best scoreres in the NBA. You can counter with all the advanced statistics you like – but at the end of the day, if you want to win, you need someone that can put the ball in the cup in any given situation. He got his knee fixed this offseason, has plentyyyyy of time for it to fully recover, and is in the middle of his prime. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I was at one of the charity exhibitions (in Phily) and on one alley-oop I saw him get higher above the rim than I’ve ever seen him get before.
Also, his style of play will age more gracefully than players like LeBron and Amare, being that he doesn’t rely on elite explosiveness.
All things considered, he’s a franchise player in this league, and a player almost every team would kill to have. Let’s not be fickle. Rather – let’s sit back, see what he does with Amare over the next couple/few years – and then judge him as a player (and talk about AMNESTYING him!??)
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Thank-you
I think guys here are completely undervaluing him. Wait until you see this guy play with a team that has chemistry and cohesion and then tell me you want to amnesty him.
Bubbachuck and I have been on our pulpit around here saying this, but Carmelo was put in absolutely the worst position to put up pretty statistics in Denver. His team played ugly random-ball with a way too simple offensive system. I would watch the guy play in the low post and there’d be absolutely no cutting around him. Absurd! When Amar’e and Carmelo face-up or post-up in the post for us, we always switch to a motion offense. How are you supposed to take advantage of double teams otherwise? Also, very few plays were run for him or by him which made it difficult to score efficiently and get assists.
Carmelo + offensive system = more efficient scorer, better passer. I am really excited to see what he looks like next year.
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obviously the idea is to pair three of them together
but CP3 and Williams are much better players then Fatso. Maybe Amar’e would be the better choice to amnesty cuz he’s a bit older, then again he fits the PGs better since he’s a finisher and not a chucker.
I’d rather have the better team, and Williams/CP3 are probably the better fit.
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they are not much better players . . .
I am curious as to why you think they are
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I was pretty certain it was common knowledge
I mean scorer vs. scorer/distributor is one thing, also the fact that CP3 gets a lot of steal and generally is a good defender. I don’t even think its close.
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it shouldn't be common knowledge
I mean, I don’t think you can just boil it down to Carmelo only scores and Chris Paul and Deron Williams both score and distribute, so they are better players. Carmelo does do things other than scoring. He is one of the best rebounding small forwards for one. He is a decent/good passer for a small forward (I think there’s a lot of potential for improvement in this area, personally), and his defense really isn’t that bad. Deron and Paul don’t impact the game that much with their defense themselves (really, I think most pg’s don’t do much on the defensive end. They pretty much take turns torching each other).
It’s kind of tough to do a direct comparison between distributing point guards and a scoring small forward. They have completely different roles and Deron and particularly Paul are much more ball dominant than Carmelo. They are also both kind of system pg’s by the way. It’s not necessarily a bad thing because most of the great pg’s have been system pg’s, but their roles do allow them to put up flattering numbers.
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personally, I do not like the ball dominant pg + others mold
even if that pg is a pass-first pg. I prefer ball movement to go through all the players on the team rather than be concentrated all in one player. Nearly all championship teams had this quality. It’s much harder to shut teams with that sort of offense down. I think that’s the most legitimate point for the “point guards don’t win championships” argument.
It’s not that I don’t think Chris Paul or Steve Nash couldn’t be part of championship teams (Deron Williams isn’t as ball dominant as those two) though. I just think their roles would have to be somewhat reduced so they’re not the ones spoon feeding their teammates every possession.
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and I definitely don't like the ball hogging SF player
adds nothing to the rest of the team. Sure he rebounds, he scores. He doesn’t pass, he does’t make his teammates better. PG > SF. Common knowledge.
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Carmelo isn't really "ball-hogging"
in the way that players like Lebron, Paul, and Nash are. He doesn’t dribble the ball up the floor; he plays off ball a lot; usually his role in Denver was to sit at the wing while his teammates tried to get something and then he would try to create something one-on-one at the end of the shot clock if they couldn’t. He doesn’t get in players’ ways. His game easily fits into a concept of team-oriented ball movement. I wish he were as willing to pass as those guys are, though.
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exactly, he doesn't dribble up the floor
that makes it worse that he’s ball hogging.
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he's not ball hogging!
His game sometimes stops offensive “flow” because he jab steps and stuff like that a lot, but that’s not ball hogging. I doubt the numbers for this exist, but I’m positive the actual percentage of the shot clock that the ball is in his hands is far less than Lebron’s, Nash’s, and Paul’s
And USG% is useless here. Durant has one of the highest USG% in the league and he plays almost entirely off ball
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tomato, tomatoe
ballhogging, jab step.
Chucker.
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You know, you could make the exact same criticisms for Dirk
yet neither Deron nor Paul have ever done anything that’s touched what Dirk did in the playoffs this year.
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Dirk in no way does what Carmelo does
you cannot make that comparison.
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Dirk doesn't rack up a ton of assists, dirk doesn't play exceptional defense
the one thing he’s great at is scoring
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Dirk in fact is a good example for my emphasis on coaching
once upon a time Dirk used to be Mr. Spot-Up Shooter where he was basically Kevin Durant. I always thought he was overrated in those days. Now Carlisle has taken his game to a completely other level where he is something of a play maker for his team due to his ability to pass out of doubles. You’ll see Dirk spot up and play a lot of pick and pop, but he’ll also be the guy who creates something at the end of the shot clock and sometimes more or less initiate the offense through triple-threating at the perimeter. THAT version of Dirk, a Dirk who is being utilized well, is the best player in the league IMO and a finals MVP.
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Ya know guys
It’s not about who’s better than who. The idea of amnesting Carmelo to sign Deron or Chris Paul is not about those guys being better than Carmelo, it’s about those guys being point guards and Carmelo being a forward. The only reason you’d do it is to create a better fit with Amar’e and therefore a better team dynamic. It’s not anything against Carmelo.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Let's see how the team looks next year
I would really like to see an effective pick and roll with Amar’e, but I’m not willing to give up Carmelo to achieve that. With Carmelo, you know that you are walking into any playoff series with a guy who can be the best player in the series. Chris Paul is kind of like that too, but he’s usually not going to be the best scorer. Deron and Amar’e are not quite in that level of talent.
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I think it is time for everyone to quit.
The Knicks do not have to amnesty Carmelo to sign Williams or Paul, there will be enough money under the cap to sign either.
@knickswin- One player is not more important for the team. Assuming that D’Antoni is the coach, he runs the spread pick and roll offense. In order to run that offense effectively you need a point guard who is good at running pick and rolls. So in terms of the coach and the team having a high qulaity point guard is actually more important than having a dominant wing player for success. That does not mean Carmelo is not important but it does mean that a good point guard is realy important.
@ Rorschach- Carmelo is a ball stopper, not a ball hog. Now the fact that he is a ball stopper can be corrected by him being more decisive with the ball. He needs to play quicker and make faster decisions, especially now that he is playing in an offense that depends on rapid ball movement to be successful in the half court.
hog, stopper
same thing. He has the rock, no one else does or will.
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I completely agree with you Robert Curre
He is a ball stopper, not a ball hog. There is a big difference between the two. His game is not predicated on being able to pound the ball as long as he wants. Ball stopping can be fixed with quicker decision making—either your scoring move or pass.
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Oh, and I am a D'Antoni supporter
and I don’t think he’s nearly as much a slave to his “system” as people make him out to be, but if he can’t find a way to make Amar’e and Carmelo at least somewhat mesh, then he goes before Carmelo does.
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Why would you use the amnesty on Melo for Paul if they both want to play together on the same team?
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
This truly is the most fun blog out there when the games are on.
Just brings in more discussion. I haven’t been here lately because the lockout. I did the same to the NFL and the Cowboys SBN site when the NFL lockout was in place.
Realist.
I always read the posts.
Rarely comment nowadays. Not much to say, but talking about eating lollipops.
Realist.
Does one actually eat a lollipop, or drink the syrup once it's melted?
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Well I had chinese take out.
My mom went to parent teacher conference and I thought I f’d shit up on this chem test and I got a 77. Ruined my day, and the kid who copied me asked how I did and I told him mad good. He’s gonna be pissed!
Realist.
You go ahead keep playing outside, Seth.
We’ll watch here from the window.
Be safe.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Nov 2, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
I just got back from an SAT prep class.
When people say Clyde helps with the vocab, they ain’t joking.
Stainer of mountaintops.
No joke!
I distinctly remember getting “precocious” right on a standardized test of some sort back in the day and quietly saluting Clyde.
You can hide all sorts of cheat notes under a pimp hat or inside a pimp coat
And then you get the ladies too. Pure winning.
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Now if only Clyde could prepare me for the Bio SAT II
Glycolizing and polymerizing.
when I took the SAT I knew what omnipotent was
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They should ask "impotent" on the SATs
at that age, nobody would know what it means.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
big tom
impotence expert
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 3, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Are you gonna write any Non-Game Recaps, about how Melo did not hit a game-winning pull-up jumper over James, and how Stat did not have a solid, albeit unspectacular, night, or how Spike Lee did not suffer a hernia while wildly celebrating the victory?
I might try my hand at that at some point
The best part of non-game recaps is that ANYTHING can happen.
Yea I figured you’d enjoy the freedom. No troublesome facts to get in the way of some good recappin.
Maybe this is what we should do
On every game night, everybody just thinks of the most preposterous shit that could happen during the game, then we post the results in a recap in the morning.
by Seth on Nov 2, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey!
A triple-double for Landry is not preposterous!
And I like that idea.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Just re-read your post
I still think Landry has it in him.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see the game... Can you see the game?
Landry just dunked on Lebron’s teeth! Then Jorts did a dance in his jorts.
It was glorious.
Landry Fields is a way of life
I know right!
Why Lebron’s teeth were on the rim, we may never know. That’s something Lebron’s dentist will take to his grave.
Seeing Ronny taxidermize Bosh to the point of tears was easily the high point for me.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
where's the non-game snack thread?
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oh
well then I just ate some goldfish
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Eating Skittles right now
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
You’re funny. I kill you last.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope I'm not the only one going through basketball withdrawal
its gotten so bad I was taking a shit in a corner and yelling “E”!!
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Yeap
When this lockout drives me to felony and eventually prison, I’ll have to be kept in a circular cell that has no corners in which I might poop.
I plan on watching a lot more college basketball than I normally do.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
Go UCONN/UNC/Ohio State/Kentucky/whatever team I shamelessly bandwagon
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Go Rutgers!
:(
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
are they going to be good this year?
I don’t remember seeing them in any of the preseason rankings
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Good for Rutgers
They have a great freshman class that’s generally ranked top 25 in the nation, plus they have this East European (Lithuanian?) center/PF that’s pretty good. They could make some noise in the next three years.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Fart
I hope that sparks conversation
by michael28102 on Nov 2, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
when you pronounce “rec’d” in your head is it ‘rect’ or ‘rec-ed’ or ‘rec-D’ or the full-blown ‘recommended?’
well, often in poetry, an apostrophe signifies that there is only one syllable
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by knickswin on Nov 2, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That
Whitman uses this a lot, and you would pronounce it with two syllables
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Chris Bosh dribbling off his foot again
that guy . . . so mentally weak
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How does this Amnesty Clause (Theoretically) work
If we (Hypothetically) amnestied Amare….does he go his entire contract without it being on our cap.
Does he automatically get released with no cap hit?
Does he play out one year and then become a free agent?
Hey gang!
I miss Knicks :(
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Nov 2, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
How are you, Seff!
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by Thelonious Dunk on Nov 2, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Drinking a smoothie.
Missing my Knicks.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Nov 2, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to make it all about me
but am I getting a reputation as the biggest carmelo homer on this site?
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To be honest, the only thing I know about you is your signature is funny, and I always read your name as “Knick Swim”
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I could change it
it wouldn’t have any real meaning, but it’d be provocative
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yeah but then my sig would be depressing
like in AI when the creepy little boy is always waiting for his mommy because it would never happen
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I am kind of surprised over the lack of Carmelo and Amar'e homers
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T-shirts have the answer
I guess if you’re trawling a blog that has t-shirts celebrating Toney Douglas and Jonathan Bender, you can expect a different kind of fan.
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many of us are Knicks fans first instead of those that wore Carmelo #15 jerseys in December
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I actually watched 3 Nuggets games this year before February 22
2 were Knicks games and 1 was some random game on TNT on Thursday.
I mean, I can see the appeal in being an “indy” fan or whatever, but you can be just as delusional hyping up role players as you can be hyping up all stars.
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What happens if you flag your own rec?
I imagine its like that scene from Scanners.
Peninsula is Mightier made an open thread for tonight as well.
It has zero posts.
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i guess thats one good thing that is going on right now
i want the knicks!!!!
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"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
i cant spell a nosebleed
The Official Seinfeld Gif-Man of GGN!!!!!!!!
i'm a moderator for GGN. I will accept tribute.
Does anybody know the genesis of Isola vs. Berman of the Post
How did that beef start? Or is it just fun and games?
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I'll respond with a question.
If you guys get Dwight, what would you do with Brook? I watched a lot of Net games last year, and I really like his game.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 2, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of like his game . . .
he’s a bit soft, but he has a legitimate post game. One of the best offensive centers in the league. I think his defense is underrated and his rebounding issues get overstated
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Agreed about his offensive game
I mean, he can really score the ball. I think his defense and rebounding are legitimate issues though. People pointed to the fact that he had mono before last season and that the treatment was affecting him. However, it didn’t slow him down on offense, so his motor and his desire to rebound and play defense might just be really bad.
Also, he is slow as shit
he is indeed slow as shit
he is one of the few players in the league I am positive I am faster than
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Show of hands
who thinks the Knicks could actually beat the Heat in a playoff series
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yeah, they are definitely more talented than us
I think the one match-up that would be heavily in our favor is coaching. Our style of basketball happens to be the achilles heel of teams coached by Riley disciples
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Guys, I'm here!
Just got back from an intrmural basketball game! I’ll give you the details:
- First, my team’s name is Shake & Bake! Pretty cool ode to Clyde (but my friends all think it’s an ode to Taladega Nights)
- Second, we are undefeated, which is pretty cool
- Third, I play like Toney Douglas, where I shoot alot of 3’s, make some of them, and don’t pass enough. Well actually, I’m a pretty good passer and had like maybe 4 or 5 assists tonight!
- There was almost a fight in the game! So that made it worthwhile
- The team we beat was the team that beat us in the flag football intramural championship. Sweet redemption!!
Out of practice?
I play like Toney Douglas
I know you meant that you DWTDD.
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Oh no no
As far as I’m concerned, only one man can DWTDD and that’s TD himself. I just happen to sort of play like him (if I had to compare myself to a current Knick)
Well it could be worse. Much worse
I’d say I play like Jeffries, only without being 6’11".
You a bit of a ballhawk? I love it when TD gambles in the passing lanes. Dude knows how to grab a ball, when he’s feeling sporty.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." --Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China) expressing in 1986 what every Knicks fan would feel twenty years later.
where do u play
and i take it its too late to sign up? i’ve been dying to play
by blackhova on Nov 3, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha yeah
I play on an intramural team at my college. Only for students and in one case, faculty
by WSD on Nov 3, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
in the famous words of Florida Evans
damn Damn DAMN!!!
by blackhova on Nov 4, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i did suggest you make game threads for the March To The Finals '94
i think itll be cool to have a present outlook on past games as they’re being played
by blackhova on Nov 3, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sadly, it was just for the first two days of the would-be season.
Well, not sadly, but…sadly. You know.
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