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P&T Lockout Lifestylez: Toast

During this horrible, terrible lockout, we at P&T will use our free time to get to know each other better and learn from one another by sharing the non-Knicks aspects of our being. As often as I can manage, we'll take on a new topic and whatever nonsense comes with it.

Today's topic: Toast and toasting (but not posting).

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I love toast. I eat it several times a week for breakfast or lunch. When I was little my mom fed me whole wheat toast, either with butter or peanut butter. While I'm still totally down for either of those meals, my thing now is to eat rye or whole wheat toast with goat cheese or hummus 'n' some cucumber slices 'n' cumin (that's more of a lunch toast).

I'm a light toaster. I like a light, even brown toast that's still somewhat spongy. This is especially true for bagels, which I toast only for moments. I can achieve the desired light brownness pretty reliably, too, because I have a really good relationship with my toaster. See, my toaster is kind of shitty, but I've learned its whims to the point that I can override its natural tendency toward scorching my breakfast. It has six heat settings and a "defrost" button. I know that a room-temperature slice of bread needs one toasting at the halfway point between 4 and 5 to reach my desired brownness. I know that a frozen slice of bread needs one toasting at 5.5 with the "defrost" function on, then about half a toasting at level 3 (and I manually abort the toasting by forcing the plunger thing upward. Fuck the "cancel" button.). When I was at school, we had an especially terrible toaster that required me to reach in and flip the bread back-to-front AND top-to-bottom if I didn't want uneven toasting. In both cases, I figured out how to efficiently manipulate my toaster's habits so that I could have delicious toast. I'm of the opinion that everybody should have that kind of relationship with his or her toaster. If you're the type that permits your toaster to do a shitty job, then I don't think you're qualified to be anybody's boss. Leadership sometimes requires playing to your charges' strengths while correcting for their weaknesses, and that begins at breakfast time.

RELEVANT QUESTIONS

- What kind of bread do you favor for your toast? I'm interested in both your diner answer (i.e. white, wheat, or rye) and your more specific at-home answer.

- What's your toast topping of choice?

- How is your relationship with your toaster?

- Do you ever put weird stuff in the toaster?

- Do any of you have toaster ovens? Yeah? That's cool. Good for you. My family had one when I was little.

- What other important things do you have to say about toast?

RELEVANT CALVIN AND HOBBES STRIP

RELEVANT KNICKS CONTENT

A brief rundown of what the Knicks put on their toast:

Toney Douglas: Nothing. Plain.

Landry Fields: Butter and a sprinkle of cinnamon.

Andy Rautins: Butter and a sprinkle of cinnamon.

Amar'e Stoudemire: Cream cheese, lox, gefilte fish, matzo crumbs, and Hannukah gelt still in the wrapper.

Anthony Carter: Guava preserves.

Shawne Williams: Poop.

Shelden Williams: An entire halibut, scaled and gutted, but not boned.

Carmelo Anthony: "Carmarmalade", which is just butter, honey, and strawberry jam.

Derrick Brown: Melted Tootsie Rolls.

Jared Jeffries: Other slices of toast

Iman Shumpert: Light butter on both sides and eight slices of Juicy Fruit.

Chauncey Billups: Butter and broken glass.

Josh Harrellson: Ranch dressing and bear jerky.

Roger Mason: Who cares?

Bill Walker: Baked ziti.

Ronny Turiaf: Ham and cheese! Croque-monsieur!

Renaldo Balkman: A grilled cheese sandwich with hot sauce, blended into a spreadable paste.

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This is outstanding

Really the only enjoyable NBA-related reading nowadays.

I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time

by Bernard King's Game Face on Nov 21, 2011 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

Toast

I like that sort of half-assed wheat toast, the kind that’s kind of blond.
Once I get some, I’ll put a couple pieces in my cast iron skillet and grill them to toastyness, then spread a little butter on there, and if I’m feeling saucy, a few drops of hot sauce.

There you have it.

by TheLuntz on Nov 21, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

Nah I just grill it.

Achieves a similar effect.

Try it next time you’re bored of no basketball, so, probably right now.

by TheLuntz on Nov 21, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you

For making the last 15 minutes of work a urine-soaked delight!

While I enjoy toast from time to time, I’ve never been the biggest fan. Which probably stems from my first, non-cereal related culinary adventure when I was about four or five. After a while, pouring your own Rice Krispies With Marshmallows (YOU REMEMBER!) just doesn’t give you the same jolt, knowwhatimsayin?

So one morning I decided to make my own toast. I got out all the correct ingredients — bread, butter, and strawberry jam (my faves!). I constructed said ingredients correctly. I was so proud, in fact, that I marched into the living room and told my pops all about how I’d made toast for myself. He seemed genuinely proud, until he caught sight of a whisp of black smoke coming out of the kitchen. Turns out his genius kid had put the butter and jam on the bread BEFORE putting it in the toaster. This made the toaster quite angry.

 The trauma wrought by this episode caused me to have to repeat pre-school.

by Jim Cavan on Nov 21, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Toast:

 What kind of bread do you favor for your toast? I’m interested in both your diner answer (i.e. white, wheat, or rye) and your more specific at-home answer.

White and White. White tastes far better than any other bread. I don’t quite get the existence of breads other than white.

- What’s your toast topping of choice?

Eggs. Bacon. Another piece of toast.

I don’t remember the last time i just made toast. I don’t even think i have fresh bread anymore. I have to go to the freezer for that. All i know is “toasting” makes everything better.

by michael28102 on Nov 21, 2011 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

My favorite is probably white toast with butter, cinnamon and sugar.

I like a high sugar:cinnamon ratio, and I like to put a lot of each on there.
Also, I would say I’m less particular about the level of toastiness (unless there’s black on it, in which case I will scrape said black off with a knife. This is not a metaphor for racism), and more particular about surface area covered by butter. It doesn’t make sense to me only to butter like 60% of a piece of toast toward the center. I would argue that the sides, on which the crust is located, need butter even more than the center because of the crust.

I’ll admit that I haven’t tried to many toppings on toast, though, so I could be persuaded to branch out.

by Osborn on Nov 21, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

I'm totally with you on the cinnamon/sugar toast

I usually have a lot more sugar than cinnamon in my batches, and with this particular type of toast butter is vital. If a spot of toast isn’t buttered, the cinnamon/sugar won’t stick to it. Then you just have a section of warm bread. Not on my watch.

I’m pretty plain, I usually like white toast. My pallet didn’t really develop until later on. Now I will occasionally have a wheat or a multigrain, but that’s about as adventurous as I get. And butter is the only spread I ever use. I keep it nice and simple.

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by viva_morrison on Nov 21, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Also anyone who likes burnt toast

and burnt things in general.

I don’t get you. Please explain how you like the taste of black charcoal in your mouth instead of the fluffy goodness of golden brown toast

by michael28102 on Nov 21, 2011 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

My mom is one of them.

I don’t get it either, Michael. Or do you prefer Mr. 28102?

by Osborn on Nov 21, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Michaels good....

Someone needs to enlighten me on this. Same goes for well done anything. Makes no sense

by michael28102 on Nov 21, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

My mom does the same thing

I have never understood it and never will

by Joamiq on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Could we do ice cream tomorrow?

I’m not a big toast guy

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by rexthejet on Nov 21, 2011 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Pumpernickel

well done with some butter and a dash of salt.

Perhaps a nice marble rye…
Sometimes cinnamon raisin…

Variety is the spice of life when it comes to toast, i guess

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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 21, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

DELICIOUS

Margarine in a 51/49 split with Vegemite in Bread Recipe Ingredients (BRI).

To be honest I don’t know how accessible vegemite is in other parts of the world, and whenever I see people from distant lands trying it, they do it wrong. You don’t just eat it out of the jar! That’s suicide!

When you do it right with the correct split of BRI on white toasted bread it becomes an enjoyable mouth party. But I doubt anyone here would know what I’m on about. LEARN.
Sincerely, Australia.

Landry Fields is a way of life

by Longbeard on Nov 21, 2011 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

Don't eat Marmite!

Marmite is for Goons

Landry Fields is a way of life

by Longbeard on Nov 21, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Marmite banned in Denmark?! They even banned Rice Friggin' Krispies!

Either way – Hmmm – intriguing but a little scary I have to admit on both ’mites. Definately sounds like an acquired taste.

by screamedia on Nov 21, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure y’all’ve heard ’em already, but Mitch Hedberg has some pretty great jokes about toast.

Also, sorry for the double contraction.

by Jim Cavan on Nov 21, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

nutella

is actually the bomb on whole wheat toast. Also great to dip animal crackers in.

I once used a toaster to heat a bathroom.

I had a toaster over when I was little as well- used to love putting french bread pizza in there.

and this:
“Roger Mason: who cares?”

by total hermination on Nov 21, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

*oven

the toaster wasn’t a houseguest

by total hermination on Nov 21, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It read better as a houseguest

a nigh perfect comment as it originally stood. Though it would be a bit of a mess heating up pizza in a regular toaster. I had a friend who tried toasting a grilled cheese in a regular toaster and made the whole dorm smell like burnt cheese for the next two days.

by Joamiq on Nov 21, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Bread is probably my favorite food,

which is why I usually bake it myself. I got a little bread maker as a gift some years back, and it is awesome. Just toss the ingredients in there and three hours later you have delicious fresh bread. You can make “toast” with this bread, although it is generally fluffier, and the slices are bigger, than standard toast. I use a 1/2 and 1/2 wheat flour and white flour combo for maximum flavor.

Also, my favorite thing with this bread is a little dippin dish with olive oil, salt, freshly ground black pepper, a pinch of garlic powder, a bit of basil, and a dash of crushed red pepper. That or Nutella, with which one can never go wrong.

by Joamiq on Nov 21, 2011 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah!

Another favorite topping – an egg (or two) over easy. Creamy egg yolk, what a marvelous toast topping…

Orange marmalade is also enjoyable. Damn, I love bread.

by Joamiq on Nov 21, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Yeah +1

You gotta have the garlic like Joamiq, tho. I like to add parm/romano cheese too. I like brushing it on the outside of italian bread too and putting it in the oven.

by screamedia on Nov 21, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh snap, good call

Why did I never think to add cheese? This blog has just measurably made my life better

by Joamiq on Nov 21, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Good calls on both fronts.

When left to his own devices, one of my dad’s signature “dishes” was white bread with Kraft parm cheese on top, toasted. It’s not as classy as it sounds.

by Jim Cavan on Nov 21, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a rediculous Parmer

I’ll put it on most anything somedays…love it in scrambled eggs. But I won’t lie. I just love food period.

by screamedia on Nov 21, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Warning: Pointless Monologue Ahead!

A great topic, toast. A classic staple and a great leveler of men; from the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn’t enjoy a good piece? (Doff of the cap to Mr. Burns)

I’ve been through many fads with toast throughout what’s been a long, mundane existence. I’ve been adamant that I would only eat white (as a child, unsurprisingly), have been through super-grainy rye, and have gone from wanting only the blackest toast to being way more moderate in my old age.

And just for Longbeard, I did even like Vegemite when I was a child, but I grew out of it. Coincidentally, this was probably right around the time that I became able to prepare my own food rather than relying on a parent. But each to their own; there are a million foodstuffs I don’t like, so I’m certain that the problem is more likely with me than anyone else.

On the topic of eating black toast: the best (and unfortunately the most unnecessarily introspective) explanation I can think of, is that it may have been due to one-upmanship, a stubborn insistence on doing everything to just a little bit more of an extreme degree than the last guy. Since my Dad likes his toast rather well-done and extremely dry, the child LaConte (not that I’ve really grown up) had to turn the knob on that toaster just a little further, in order to win the toast battle.

Although I have grown out of the black toast phase, I do have an unhealthy addiction. It started when I changed my afternoon snack from toast to English muffins, and eventually spiraled out of all reasonable control. The problem? Butter. Man, I love butter on my toasted treats. To borrow from Pulp Fiction: I would drown them in that shit, man.

Consuming an excess of butter may be all well and good when you’re still kinda young, but eventually the realities of age, metabolism and dermatological health sink in, and it’s time to consume responsibly. So for a while, I swore myself off of all toasted breads, knowing that I had to save myself from…myself (double doff of the cap to Mike Myers, as Austin Powers and Goldmember).

Nowadays I allow myself the occasional toasted treat, generally in the form of a crumpet which will be smeared with an extremely delicate film of butter (sometimes if I don’t trust myself, I ask my wife to do the honors; it’s important to be a responsible adult and to keep your wife stimulated). This is then buried under a mountain of strawberry jam (you can’t win ’em all, eh?).

I have a good relationship with my toaster. It does what it’s supposed to, with repeatable results. The only exception to this is when I get the drunken munchies late at night and forget what settings to use, and then forget that I even put anything in the toaster in the first place, leaving my once-desired snack to wilt and burn; alone, forgotten, and forever unloved.

I have a relatively new toaster, but ads on TV for even newer toasters have caught my wife’s interest. These toasters have what is supposedly a major breakthrough in toaster control, but what I consider to be utter wank: a button, which will raise the toast from the body during use via some kind of motorized mechanism, allowing inspection mid-toast.

Straight off the bat, that sounds extraneous, since my toaster has a lever which allows me to lift the toast manually, if I wish to inspect it without disturbing the toasting cycle. And even if my toaster didn’t have a lever, I’d be more than capable of braving the gentle, convective waft of toasted air and sticking my face over the toaster to peer within. As far as I can tell, everything is already in order when it comes to the whole toast inspection situation.

But the kicker with this new development is that this highfalutin automated mechanism for raising the toast is that it does so …very… slowly. I mean, why? Obviously, it shouldn’t raise the toast so quickly that it propels the slice with such velocity that it penetrates the ceiling/cupboard/curious face above it; but toast inspection isn’t some wondrous, momentous occasion to be savored and treasured forever, it’s a practical step that is sometimes required in order to ensure the satisfactory toasting of one’s bread-based delight. FFS, just lift it, let me look at it and then put it down again. Don’t sprinkle rose petals on the benchtop, release a dozen white doves and harken ye faithful with trumpets to gaze on the majesty of my underdone toast.

Utter wank.

I’ll leave it to you whether I refer to this development in toasters, or this comment in general, but thanks for letting me vent. I really hate that goddamned toaster.

"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." --Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)

by LaConte on Nov 21, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

who doesn’t enjoy a good piece?

…you walk a fine line of comedy there my man:)

by screamedia on Nov 21, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like I told my third wife

Just because it’s long, that doesn’t mean it’s good.

She still ran away with that pool boy though.

"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." --Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)

by LaConte on Nov 22, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

English Muffins with butter, peanut butter and jelly (I like blackberry or boysenberry)

for a night snack. I also like flattening bread in a super lightly buttered or oiled frying pan to toast bread if it’s just for the sake of having toast and sprinkling it with garlic and parmesan cheese at the end so the parm melts – I guess it comes out like a flatbread – don’t know but I just like it

by screamedia on Nov 21, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

English muffins

Are insanely awesome. With an egg on it, wow…

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by rexthejet on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Cooking bread in a pan

Now that’s the way to do it, especially if the pan’s still dirty from whatever the last thing you fried was. On the BBQ is good too; those residual fats do something amazing when combined with wheat and heat (I miss you, Clyde).

"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." --Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)

by LaConte on Nov 21, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man - the GRILL. This brings me to the mother of all toasting

Grilled Pizza. How many people of tried it here? I did it once making a sausage, 2 kinds of peppers, onions, garlic and mozzarella – but it came out so huge I can’t convince my wife to have it again…but it was sooo good – she likes thin crust and this bad boy for some reason puffed up like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from ghostbusters

by screamedia on Nov 22, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone else ever been forced to ask for a grip of mixed jelly packets?

The diner waitress usually abides, but also manages to guilt me into tipping 80%.

by Jim Cavan on Nov 21, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Ive never tried butter in its solid form

Should I try it on toast. I just don’t like the idea of a substance ruining my toast. Its the same thing we cream cheese but your not convincing me to try that smelly shit

by michael28102 on Nov 21, 2011 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Spike Lee probably says "hey"

And then he spends the next hour telling you about how he did some stuff once upon a time, while gripping your arm tighter and tighter so you can’t get the hell away.

"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." --Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)

by LaConte on Nov 21, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Toast is on my snakz Mount Rushmore.

I’m all about the straight wheat bread. I can tolerate the fancy varieties – your oat-wheat, multi-grain-wheat, couch-lint-and-chocolate-chip-penny-wheat. But plain ol’ wheat is the stalwart. Topping of choice? Butter is classic. Cinnamon is legit too.

I had this one toaster ya see, and we were tight. He gave me the perfect toast on the perfect timeframe (just enough time to whip up a mug of hot cocoa) and everything. But then one day, my mom replaced him. REPLACED HIM. The new toaster is nice, but fuck it. I prefer my old buddy.

Do PopTarts count as “weird stuff?” Because if you think about it, they’re pretty odd.

The toaster oven is for BagelBites and pizza rolls.

"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields

by Thelonious Dunk on Nov 21, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

das harsh on money mase...

The correct answer is that Roger Mason is too busy trying to save the NBA to eat toast. But then again, he’s as sucky at saving the NBA as he is at saving the Knicks from losing. Have some toast, Roger.

As for me, I’ve been a toaster oven guy for a while. It’s because you can toast things with the topping already on there. cut butter into little pieces, put it on the bread, then into the toaster oven so the butter melts into the bread. Or my personal favorite: curry powder and muenster cheese, melted over the bread in the toaster oven. It works with almost any kind of bread, too. Now, I don’t know if that qualifies as toast because I’ve always called it ‘Cheese-Bread’. Even if it’s not toast, I prefer mine on the dark side.

You just reminded me – I’ve been away from NY for so long that I haven’t had rye toast in forever. ’scuse me, I got to get on that.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Nov 22, 2011 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

Holy crap! I looked at that rundown and thought maybe the lockout isn't so bad after all

Frankly the Knicks have a lot of straight up crap on their roster. But as for toast itself, toast is absolutely divine.

by Robert Curre on Nov 22, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

I grew up on Pepridge Farm White toast. I like it toasted pretty dark (but not black) with unsalted butter. If I’m feeling frisky I top it off with a green pepper and onion omelet, ketchup, and another slice of darkly toasted bread!!

by AJJA on Nov 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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