The Knicks paid Jamal Crawford a visit.
Warky Wark went all the way to Seattle to try and convince Jamal to sign for that room exception!
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this would be sweet, would love one of the 06-07 guys to be here for a winning season
make it hap’n cap’n!
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 5:35 PM EST reply actions
but i also want poope...
i’m more torn than natalie imbruglia
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Renaldo is here!
And Jeffries! And Herb Williams!!!!
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you're right
but i forgot about them being here then, and admittedly, i kinda forgot about them being here now! my baaad.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
and i even have that old p&t shirt with all of the first names! for shame
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I should mention
I whole-heartedly agree that it would be great to bring Jamal back to feel real winning in the Garden
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i think it would mean say goodbye to shawne
but i wouldnt exactly rule out baron. my gut says the management wants one more guy. baron seems more likely to take a vet’s minimum deal than shawne is.
if the knicks can’t get jamal, i feel like they’ll go after shawne no-holds-barred. and i think that would increase their interest in baron. but jamal’s skillset manages to be right in between baron and shawne.
the only agony here is waiting to find out who it will be.
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yeah i also get the feeling it's one more addition then done
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
though i wouldn't mind two...
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say it would mean no Baron
which while I wouldn’t like, Baron’s not exactly available at this moment. Poope is something different. He’s a separate position and a need, I think he’d be back
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but we only have one mini-midlevel, right?
i think that could be the snag in a jamal + poope.
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as far as I know we can sign Poope regardless
he’s our FA and we can go over the cap with his Bird thingy
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i think you gotta have a guy for at least 2 years
before you can use bird rights. and i originally thought it was 3, but a few people said it was 2.
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i, for one, am very confused about this salary cap detail
for instance, if we are over the cap, can we still sign players at the vet’s minimum?
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Lets get Baron instead!
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I'm pretty sure Jamal is worth something along the lines of 7mil per season.
Don’t tell him that, though.
He's worth whatever he can get
He’s certainly better than a lot of guys making 2.5 million, but it all depends on whether anyone’s offering him anything. The insanity of this free agent signing – slash – training camp situation – with a couple of amnestied former all star point guards floating around and potentially a third – is nutty, but possibly working in our favor.
It’s possible that Crawford is not getting any offers at all and that ours is the only one on the table. Seems unlikely, but he just might take the offer.
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I hope Warky points out
that a championship in New York practically guarantees a lifetime of vast post basketball opportunities. In the long run this is much more valuable and fulfilling than well paid obscurity in Portland.
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wow, good eye
we need to get jamal now!
by latrell chokewell on Dec 12, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
For some reason that #11 just belongs on a Crawford jersey!
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No, it belongs on a Derek Harper jersey!
or even Rod Strickland. Then comes Crawford.
seeing #20
on anyone but Houston (Bibby is wearing it now) still weirds me out
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Bibby in general just weirds me out
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by Rorschach44 on Dec 12, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it was super funny
when jared jeffries wore #20
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by stingy d on Dec 12, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good
All the quality depth the Knicks can get is great. The tough schedule calls for resting a few guys during stretches. Having Crawford would allow us to have a chance at winning games when the starters rest.
-Giants-I bELIeve in this team. Playoffs are in sight all they have to do is fight for it. Keep Baas on the sidelines.
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by Livestrong77nyy on Dec 12, 2011 5:48 PM EST reply actions
Would this be probably
Jamal OR Poope?
I want:
Both
by dank7 on Dec 12, 2011 5:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Shawne is a bit redundant with Melo and Landry
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How is he not?
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How are they?
Shawne Williams might have the most awkward handle I’ve seen, he is not an elite scorer, not a great rebounder for his size, doesn’t post up or isolate on offense, doesn’t make great cuts or go backdoor, is not good in the fast break… Need I go further?
The only thing they all have in common is slightly similar heights and the ability to shoot 3 pointers. Maybe Landry and Shawne have something in common with that in how they both hardly jump on their jump shots
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I guess redundant wasn't that right word
But we have three forwards in amare, Carmelo and Landry, so shawne isn’t that necessary. We can get most of what he does elsewhere. Billy is kind if close to being the exact same player for example.
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Shawne is 2nd team and Landry and Melo are 1st team
Landry is still primarily SG with Bully and prob sometimes Iman, …….
This is actually the strongest point anyone's made in favor of PoopE
I see plenty of call for him on this site, but no one really says why. This is the best reason I’ve seen. At least to me it is.
i just assumed it was well understood
the guy guarded dwight howard last year! he’s probably most natural at the 3. but he could play 3 or 4 and i think (barring crawford or davis signing) is instantly our sixth man.
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I'd put shump 6th most likely
I never really liked him guarding bigs, though. Much like his corner poops, inconsistent. Mainly, though, I guess I haven’t really thought much about backup 4, given how much we’ve gained overall in bigs (bison, jerome jordan, and jorts). I guess right now it’s jeffries. We could always go small and play melo a little at the 4, but that’s not an actual solution.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
i think its too early to put shump as yr sixth man
but i hope he pans out
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But so did bill walker and Carmelo . . .
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Carmelo is not part of the bench
and Bill Walker is not enough to back up Melo and STAT.
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Carmelo can play some time at the four too.
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If Melo is playing at the 4, then he's playing too many minutes
It would be like STAT playing at the 5 last year. It just wore him down.
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He can, but it's really, really not ideal
It puts more of a toll on him physically on D and on the boards. More than that, I don’t like the way the offense looks when it’s three guards, Melo, and a big. Maybe this could be fixed, and admittedly they didn’t play many minutes in that alignment, but when they did they always looked confused and out of rhythm to me.
Ever hear of something called a bench?
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But we don't have any starting caliber guards . . .
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We need quality forwards behind Melo and STAT
Otherwise this team will struggle to get out of the first round of the playoffs, and will not get of the second, if it even gets there.
There is also the issue of increasing the injury risk of our starting forwards because they are playing close to 40 minutes per game because the best second string forward is Jared Jeffries. That’s the wrong way to go. We’re still probably a year away from truly contending. Let’s not destroy our assets because we want to get cute with the bench and the point guard position.
If Jamal Crawford means no Shawne Williams, than Crawford is a luxury that we can’t afford this year. Especially with the possibility of Baron Davis.
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by Russ on Dec 12, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
AMEN
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Well, I don't think we have to worry about preserving space for Baron
If he is amnestied and doesn’t get claimed then I think the rule is he gets a vet’s minimum. Even if he get’s bought out and simply becomes an unrestricted FA, he’d probably choose to sign with us for the vet’s minimum given the likely size of the buyout, the chance to quest for a title, and the fact that reports have him practically packing his bags for ny.
If we get Jamal then Landry becomes a back up forward
I’m sorry but I just can’t see how we can prioritize Shawne Williams over Jamal. We don’t have anyone who can set up an offense or penetrate! Toney and Carmelo are the only players I trust to even dribble! And it’s not like toney is a particularly tremendous ball handler for a pg.
What I’m saying is we’re pretty good at the forward position. We have two forwards who are some of the best at their positions. We have guys like Landry, bill, and Jeffries who can be back-up forwards. What Shawne brings is a luxury for us. There will be other guys willing to go run in the corner to take those shots. Carmelo, Tyson, and Jeffries can guard fours. Plus Shawne was a fifteenth man. It’s not like it’s all that hard to pick up players of his quality.
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Landry is not a backup up power forward
The only back up power forwards that we now have are either ineffective, or have never played a single minute in the NBA.
Shawne is not a luxury. He would be the only member of the bench who has demonstrated that he can effectively play both the 3 and the 4. This is critical so that Melo and STAT’s minutes are not pushed too high during the season. It is also important for those times when Melo and/or STAT get into foul trouble.
The real luxury here is Crawford. He may be better than our other options at PG, but he is by no means an elite option who will be able to work with Melo and STAT at the same time. Choosing Crawford over Shawne gives the Knicks more depth at PG, but at the expense of any quality depth at power forward, and with only undersized options at small forward. That makes it more likely that Melo and STAT will play more minutes than they should, and more likely that injuries will occur.
The Knicks are likely not going to contend this year. One more year is needed to pick up more quality depth. There is no reason to increase the risk of injuries to Melo and STAT because we want a good, but not great, PG.
And you are undervaluing Shawne. He is not a 1-trick pony. He is also an above average defender who can even stretch to playing the 5 on rare occasion. His versatility is needed.
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Can we just step back and realize this is ridiculous
To argue that Shawne should be prioritized over Jamal is just absurd . . .
We have arguably the best starting front court in the NBA and the worst starting back court, our best ball handler is our small forward. We quite possibly have no one to set up the offense. We have two, maybe three players who should be allowed to regularly dribble in Melo, Douglas, and maybe Bibby. Our guard situation is dire.
Jamal is a starting caliber two who is worth about 7-10 million a year at this point. He can handle the ball, and function as a primary or secondary play maker next to Melo, and can set up the offense. Shawne Williams is a back-up 3/4 whose primary abilities are shooting three in the corner and defending threes and fours. He made the vet minimum last year and is probably worth 1-2.5 million this year.
It would be nice if we could get Shawne too, but I’m not seeing how what he brings to the team is more valuable or necessary than what Jamal would bring. Again, our back court situation is so bad that Carmelo will probably be playing legit Magic Johnson point forward at times which is not really what he should be doing.
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If you have to label my argument "ridiculous" and "absurd"
then you are not making a very good argument.
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I was trying not to address you personally
Because I was exasperated, but I didn’t want to be rude. But anyway, to me taking Jamal over Shawne is an absolute no brainer.
We have forwards! Carmelo, amare, bill, landry, and Jeffries are all players capable of playing the three or four. Tyson can guard fours. I agree that it would be nice to have another guy to back up particularly the power forward slot, but that’s something we can live without. Frankly I wouldn’t be shocked if one of the guys we brought to training camp got signed and turned out to be as useful as Shawne. what Shawne brings is corner threes which I don’t even worry about because there will always be guys who want to run to the corner to take that shot on Mike’s teams and defense on 3’s and 4’s. The defense is more important, but we have guys who can do that. Landry, Carmelo, and bill can guard threes. Jeffrie, Tyson, and then to a lesser extent amare and Carmelo can guard fours. We can live with that.
Now look at our guard situation. It’s toney, Landry (who is really a small forward who can’t defend guards), bibby, and shumpert. That’s horrible. Right now we are depending on toney to set up the offense, and he can’t really do that. He will ignore wide open shooters and cutters; he will throw errant alley-oops to Tyson; he will run a mediocre pick and roll with Stoudemire; he will try to penetrate and then get nervous and pick up his dribble, ruining the possession. He will have trouble remembering the shot clock, and will have no understanding of how to pace the game. Mike will try to mitigate this as much as he can by putting as much of the offense in carmelo and amare’s hands as possible, but our point guard situation will be sloppy.
Jamal addresses so many of these needs! He can handle VERY well; he can penetrate; he can play pick and roll; he can set up the offense a lot better than toney; he can pass lobs. Jamal isnt exactly a point guard, but he is very close to one. Not to mention, he can create his own shot better than anyone on this team not named Carmelo and also function as a sixth man.
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And honestly adding Crawford makes us a fringe contender
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he plays the same position as them
other then that, no.
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id like crawford over extra E
I love extra E but Jamal can score from all over while Shawne is more of a 3pt specialist. Landry starts and when he’s out there he’s rebounding, passing, playing solid d, making Spike happy and doing all sorts of Landryish things. Then having Crawford come off the bench we get instant O and we can be comfortable having Melo/STAT off the court for extended periods of time.
by Bockas r back on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I understand the offense contributions from Jamal...
But i think everyone is falling in love with the idea of Jamal bringing in Offense….
Where is our depth at the 3-5?…. yes we have solid starters…. but look at Chandler on Dallas…. Dallas needed Haywood big time…. We dont have a solid backup at either the 3-5…. Who is going to contribute at those positions if we sign Jamal….
I hope we look at Shumpert/Bibby/DWTDD to contribute at the 1-2 no matter who starts at the 1.
But we need depth at the post. Jefferies is not cutting it. Lets be honest.
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Hopefully
We can get something out of Jerome Jordan and Jorts.
They van play the 5 and I think Jorts can play the 4.
If D’Antoni wants to go small, he can play Melo at the 4 for some lineups.
Bully and Landry can both play the 3.
I’m worried about frontcourt depth too and I don’t support bringing in Crawford, but I don’t think it’s as dire as you make it out to be. Sure some of those dudes are unproven, but neither is Shumpty Shump and there are serious questions about Landry’s ability to recover after slamming into the rookie wall, if DWTDD can handle duties at the 1 or if he’s more of a Jason Terry, and if Bibby still has a pulse.
That's a big hope
I believe in Jorts more than anyone, but we know for sure that Extra E can play minutes at both forward spot and not completely stink it up. If Jorts plays like a second round pick, we’re thin at backup PF.
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How can we talk about forward depth when we dont have any starting quality guards. . .
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by blackhova on Dec 12, 2011 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh god
If we get Jamal and baron I’m wetting myself because that line up contends. Can’t get my hopes up though.
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And I doubt Jamal takes 2.5
This will probably be his last good contract. I’d go for the TD sign and trade
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Well I said last good contract
Jamal is getting to the age where they don’t give you long term, lucrative deals anymore, plus he could get injured and have his career end. So I doubt he’s looking to turn down any money right now.
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i said it before
and i’ll just say it again here; i think a lot of free agents are waiting to see what will happen with nene.
because there are teams that will be willing to spend good money on a guy like jamal, but they can’t quite commit yet. that gives the knicks an advantage in a way, because this free agency period has been a crazy lightning round. so the knicks are zeroing in. but looking around, the rockets are trying to strike gold. the hornets only have 6 players on their team! the nuggets might be short on players. and i mean there’s just lots of things happening VERY rapidly. jamal can get the mini-mid level almost anywhere, and some places he can get a good grip more.
whatever happens, the guys we sign from here on out, are players that expressly want to be a new york knick. they might play it out in a holding pattern and join late, just so they don’t miss out on a too-good deal. but we are in a great spot for the first time in it seems like ages!
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by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions
whatever player walks through the door next
whether its jamal, baron, or shawne…i’m going to be excited about it. two years ago, if we had signed one of those guys, i would have probably just rolled my eyes. but the beautiful part of it is that they are the kind of players we need now. we’ve got one of (if not THE) best front courts in the league, and we’re just adding pieces. it’s a strange feeling.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 6:06 PM EST reply actions
starting front courts, yes.
i’m optimistic, yet hesitant, with our backups.
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oh i agree with that completely
and that my explain my general level of suppressed concern about our squad
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Balkman, now Crawford
Party like its 2006!
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM EST reply actions
what about if Jackie Butler gets an invite!
ooooooo!
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as long as mardy collins don't get a invite
shit is cool
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What are mardy Collins starter stats
Vs TD’s?
Both had big bumps in their #s when they started I think
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as a starter
mardy collins averaged 10 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 turnovers, and 1 steal whille shooting 40%. and played himself out of the league in 2009.
toney douglas has averaged 14 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 1 steal while shooting 50%, and is in his third year.
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thanks stingy
remember collins had decent #s but didn’t realize his shooting percentage was so crappy. Makes me feel better about TD
This just in - Someone claimed Chauncey Billups but it was not the Nets
According to Adrian Wojiwarski, the team will become clear soon
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by seton hall and steelers on Dec 12, 2011 6:08 PM EST reply actions
and just like that it becomes known - It is the Clippers who claimed him
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Thank Jesus
Are they gonna send him to NOLA?
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who the hell knows
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by seton hall and steelers on Dec 12, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
This is such an embarassment
The league needs to stop before we get another Cleveland/Toronto
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
The NBA will send him wherever they want
They’ve made that painfully clear
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
No, I read before that they cant trade him. So he would stay a Clipper for the whole season.
That’s what he gets for talking shite about DWTDD
I saw Hollinger I believe
Say you can’t trade players you pick up off waivers until July 1st. He’s a Clipper
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To be honest, they're kinda contenders now.
Bledsoe, Gordon, Aminu, Jordan, Griffin, Caron Butler…
Add more chemistry and maturity from another year together. They’re no joke.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
The west is pretty wide open
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Blake isn't quite there yet
Give it a couple of years and I’ll at agree
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That's overrating those players a bit
Griffin is a superstar, but no one knows what caron butler has left in the tank. Bledsoe, Gordon, Aminu, and Jordan aren’t top flight players yet. Jordan plays good D, Gordon is an elite shooter and if he rounds out his game could become something great, and Aminu is a giant question mark. In fact, they’re paying Caron Butler and Ryan Gomes a ridiculous amount of money to keep Aminu from playing. Bledsoe shows some great talent, but he’s not even their starter yet.
Let them make the playoffs before we consider them contenders. They have some nice young pieces, but nothing close to contender status. Have they even re-signed Jordan yet? If they do that will cost them.
Last year they finished 13th in the west. Are you really telling me they’ve improved that much by adding recently injured caron butler. I admit they’ve improved naturally by young players getting experience, but right now they’re a borderline playoff team at best.
Eat shit Chauncey LMFAO
Clippers are a good team but not Championship level, may be part of a strategy to entice Howard though and would seem they are definitely out of the CP3 chase.
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I like the idea of having someone who can carry the offense
When Melo and Amar’e are resting especially in a contacted season with all the back to back to backs etc.
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not fully anti-Crawford, but I'm not jumping up and down to sign him either,
and that’s because of all his defensive lapses that caused me to constantly smack myself in the head almost every game.
Also, I heard an interesting point on the radio. They said things will get weird between Jamal and Melo if one of them misses a game ending shot in the 4th quarter. The other will think the ball should have gone to them. I don’t really buy into this thinking too much, but it’s worth discussing.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 12, 2011 6:09 PM EST reply actions
If Jamal Crawford really thinks he's getting the ball at the end of a game, on a team with Melo and Amar'e
someone needs to smack him in his own forehead.
I’m not worried though, guy didn’t even start for the Hawks and had one of his best seasons. He’s not a knucklehead, he just sometimes shoots like one.
he can be a good role player
is what I am saying.
But when has Jamal accepted the Role Playing....
Even in Atlanta…. he only shined once the starters were out and he was the 6th man, or the leader of the 2nd squad….
He looks for his shot first and looks for pass second. He is NOT, IN ANYWAY CLOSE, A faciliatator. Jamal plays his best when the starters are out and he can just let loose. I hope we dont pick him over someone like Baron who is willing to sign for less after being waived. We need someone who can run the point.
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by MrWilliams on Dec 12, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You clearly didn't watch him in Atlanta
Within 8 minutes of every game, they’d sub Bibby or Marvin Williams out and bring Crawford in to finish the quarter. Then, he’d get burn with the 2nd the rest of the game until it was the 4th quarter. Then, he stayed on with Johnson, Smith and Horford, and either Bibby or Marvin would play.
As for Jamal vs. Melo, both are money at the end of the games, and Jamal often got the call for the game-winner over Joe Johnson. I think you go to Melo first, but I doubt he’d be pissed. He’s played with “Mr. Big Shot” for a number of years and JR Smith, so it’s not like he hasn’t dealt with dudes who wanna hit the big shot
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I did watch, and ...
Im not talking about hitting game winning shots. Im talking about how Jamal plays.
He plays like a guy who is looking for his own shot, not like someone looking to create an easy basket for the Big-Man. Jamal played with an elite PF in Atl. A big time dunker. He also played with one of the best shooters in the game.
How often did Jamal create and setup Smith for easy dunks that help create momentum. How often did Jamal create and kick the rock for open jumpers. He played a lot of minutes in Atlanta because he was good and is one of the best streakiest players in the league. No doubt. Im just really ANTI-JAMAL for this squad.
It just seems Jamal needs the ball in his hands for him to be a solid contributor.
Maybe if he gets signed, he can settle in as a PG who will contribute by creating and facilitating shots for Melo/STAT…. and in minutes when Melo/STAT grab pine,
he can be the guy the offense runs through…. theres no doubt Jamal can make it happen by himself
I would just love to see the Knicks sign a true PG, and use any extra money for backups at the 3/4.
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This is what I was referring to
Even in Atlanta…. he only shined once the starters were out and he was the 6th man, or the leader of the 2nd squad
It’s just not true. He played tons of minutes with the Atlanta starters and any given night he was the best player on the floor for his team. Not all the time, but it did happen.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jamal-Crawford-2085/
Read that, particularly his offense. We all know that Jamal can be streaky, can over-dribble, and sucks at defense. But you’re underrating his passing ability. That profile highlights it perfectly.
Also, if you watched the Hawks you’d have seen that he gives Horford lots of opportunities in the PnR and the pick-and-pop, and sets Josh Smith up for lots of alley-oops, particularly in the fast break
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Remember when we asked Crawford to be a pass-first PG a few times as a Knick, and he did really well?
He’s really not a selfish player, he’s just always been asked to score.
TYBG
by The Rooster on Dec 12, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think Jamal's a good guy
But I really like the chemistry I’m feeling from this squad right now. Extra E seems to fit into that and Jamal… I’m not sure. Maybe, but it’s a bit more of a risk.
Alan Hahn: This is what I know about Shawne Williams: He’s in NY working out on his own and wants to re-sign. Hasn’t happened yet. about 26 minutes ago
Sounds like the Knicks are his first choice.
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how does Shawne work out his game?
hopefully he has a no flush toilet cuz that’d be a waste of water
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he has one of those toilets that flushes like 1,000 golf balls at once
or at least 10 basketballs per game
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
first choice, yea probly
but if we can’t offer him much more than 2 mill…. how can he turn down 3 or better from somehwere else. and furthermore, somewhere else hemight get more playing time. could parlay that into a much heftier contract. its a lot to weigh.
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If i had a choice......
I hope the Baron Davis rumors are true…. I WANT BARON SO MUCH MORE THAN JAMAL!!!
These combination between a 1 and 2 is no good….. i want a true point guard. Jamal is too much of shooting guard…. He always looks for his shot instead of trying to facilitate an offense….
I hope Baron is our guy!
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by MrWilliams on Dec 12, 2011 6:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
agreed
we’ve got natural shooters already. a natural pg would be nice, but its gravy either way. at least it sounds like we’ll get one of our Medium3 with that spacious exception.
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by Ray Smuckles on Dec 12, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention Baron knows how to run the PnR like gangbusters
But his bad back worries me.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Marc Stein just said Dallas wanted Chauncey
Uuum you could’ve had him in a sign and trade? I guess I’m just bitter cause I’m gonna miss the Andy and Landry show
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions
I don't think they wanted to pay him 14 million though
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here is the Woj man himself
Billups is terrific fit for Clippers. Amnesty rules don’t allow him to be traded until after season. Clippers claimed Big Shot to play him.
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by seton hall and steelers on Dec 12, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions
Watch him retire
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by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently he doesn't get any of out 14 milli if her retires
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
they’re a good fit for him. I had hoped we would be able to trade Billups there but I guess the clips gambled they could get him in amnesty instead. It’s a good pickup for them and I don’t think Burps will be too angry about it they’re young, up & coming, they have Gordon and Griffin, he could easily start over Mo Williams and he is alot closer to his family in Denver.
I don’t know how much better things could have worked out for him under the circumstances.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 12, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
They're expected to amnesty Mo Williams
It maybe be a good situation in terms of basketball, but I imagine there’s no such thing as a good situation when Donald Sterling is staring at you in the shower.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
According to Josh Newman
BREAKING: David Stern is demanding MJ, Moses Malone, Jerry West and four first round picks just for the RIGHTS TO CP3
lol
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by seton hall and steelers on Dec 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hah, good one
that would show how old and disconnected stern is…i think he’d be disappointed by their ability to contribute at this point.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Is it possible to get all 3 (PoopE, Jamaal and Baron)?
Sign Jamaal, then Poop, then Davis with the minimum. Bc that would just be nasty. We could roll with 2 units. First: TD, Landry, Melo, Amare, Mike Tyson. Second: Baron, Jamaal, Shump, Poop, Big guy.
First unit just destroys shit. Second unit comes in running and gunning and chucking and ducking. Baron’s minutes would be limited, but he can play the kinda ball that he’s great at; Jamaal can be the go-to guy; Shump can dunk on fools on the break and pick pockets; and Poop can poop from the corner like he do…
That would be some really fun shit right there.
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I like it! True dedication from the Warkster!
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 12, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions
it probably won't work tho
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 12, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
probably but it's worth a shot
I still want to fire Schotty
Wolves want Crawford too
Get off our dick
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by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions
They are going to have the best bench evwr
Except they will all be starting
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
kahn probably thinks if he starts love + four 6'0" players
that the lack of height would grant him an additional starter. i don’t understand him at all.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Mo Williams getting amnestied
anyone?
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions
I would prefer that to Baron
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
that would be HI-larious
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes!!
Mo would be great here. He’s not a pure disher, but he can definitely run an offense, he’s quick, young, a decent defender and money from downtown! He or Baron would fit like a glove
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What do you hate about him?
All those things I listed about him are true
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face too small for his head
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by Ray Smuckles on Dec 12, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We've already got our fair share of strange looking Knicks
Let’s add to the list!
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i feel like mo williams buckles under pressure
and i just don’t like him. i like him more than jj barea. but i hate both of them. i cant explain it, and i don’t care to.
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he does do a good disappearing act
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by Ray Smuckles on Dec 12, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
DWTDD and Melo
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Douglas
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by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but he should be trying to slash to the rim more
I still want to fire Schotty
He's good for a put-back every now and then.
I’m not sure he’s too great at dribbling, so getting to the rim would probably require him to learn to move better off the ball.
I’m so happy he’s still on the team.
No way
I’ll never forgive him for his what was it? 0 for 14 performance?
DWTDD is far superior. Hit the most 3s in the league after the all-star break
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
yeah he's like 2 for 2 or something
with one game-winner against the celtics taken away by the buzzer as well
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was like 10 for 23.
If you watch him during practice, or if he takes threes in pregame, you know it’s not a fluke. He’s better served going inside for obvious reasons, but Amar’e Stoudemire is absolutely one of the best three point shooters on the team. It’s just not a sustainable practice, so it’s almost pointless to mention.
That is true
Mike has said several times that amare is a real good three point shooter, and it makes sense given the range he shows with his mid range shot.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
selective memory on my part
but still pretty good! oh well…i don’t want him to start adding that to his game either way, even if it would be awesome if he pulled it off.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
With any luck?
Jorts.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 12, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Shawne shoots the best corner three
Anytime he shot anywhere else I cringed.
A bunch of our guys are pretty decent shooters. Melo, TD, billy, stat, and bibby.
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consternation about our constipation
we need to scoop up the poope before he signs elsewhere
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions
Do we visit Charlotte this year?
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions
nobody visits charlotte, they are dragged there
and my mom’s from north carolina, so you know i ain’t jokin’
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I live in Raleigh and wanna see the knicks
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
the triangle is pretty great, but charlotte stinks, so no offense
as far as the schedule, they’ll be in charlotte january 24 and april 26…the last game of the season! buy tickets to both is my suggestion
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
the april 26th game will be great
if you wanna see jorts get 25-30 minutes.
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As though thats a bad thing
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
i think you both are confused about what the other means
and both of you wants to see some jorts ASAP
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
nah i'm just being obtuse
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by stingy d on Dec 12, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh but you KNOW you love garbage time in jorts
and now i’m being obtuse
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
i love rolling thru garbage in my jean shorts!
just love it!
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i knew it!
finally, someone who can relate!
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
That shit is televised I'm pretty sure
Isn’t it?
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I love the college hoops
the Canes are pretty to see also, as a main baseball fan its tough but I manage. And I might just have to go to both, is the second during spring break?
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
i would think that depends on your school?
but maybe!
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Whats the tix situation like for the MSG preseason game
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
i would think tickets for both are fairly easy to obtain
both via ticket master or stubhub
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Are preseason games less pricey?
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
oh most definitely!
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ticket prices at msg even preseason are straight up gouging
They would rather have unsold tix than sell last second tix for reasonable price. Everything but nosebleeds unaffordable
by nynobis on Dec 13, 2011 4:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
just copy the link and paste it
despite the link button, it’s the best way
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/7422/knicks-agree-in-principle-with-jordan
I still want to fire Schotty
yes
more size off the bench. TC, Jorts, Jordan, Jeffries.
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"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
weirded out that i keep referencing female singers, though...
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
so did I!
but then again, I did that over a year ago.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd!
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 12, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 12, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
If he can repeat his overseas rookie season
I’ll be satisfied. 8pts, 4 rebounds in 15 minutes a game
This has nothing to do with the Knicks but I don't care, it's just too amazing
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Dammmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn
I still want to fire Schotty
Wow.
That is unbelievable.
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by JerzeeBalla on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
So maybe Baron Davis isn't the best option
John Hollinger
Now having $10M in cap room, would Golden State bid on Baron Davis if he’s amnestied?
Eric Pincus
@johnhollinger buyer beware (back injury)
Mike L
@EricPincus @johnhollinger Its the kind of injury that can be cleared by putting on a different-colored jersey.
Eric Pincus
@Mikel943 not in Baron’s case – he had serious back problems over the summer
I know this is random
But would what we all do if the Knicks won a Finals?
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:23 PM EST reply actions
I mean...
My…brain…doesn’t…even…compute. I would probably implode.
I would lock myself in my room and cry for a week
I would buy 50 championship shirts and hand them to everyone I know, and I would keep 50 more for myself that I would wear every day. I would own 25 hats, and buy everything possible. I would then explode.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
How old were you guys the last time we went to the finals?
I was graduating high school in ’99. Those playoff runs when we were contending in the ’90s were some of the most formative months of my damn life.
Haha I was 3
I’ve been a fan since 07 when I moved away from NY and desperately reached out to everything NY that I could. My fondest Knicks memories involve near losses to the Celtics in December and Game 1 and 2, and the wins vs Miami.
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by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Six!
Basketball fan in the most naive way!
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 12, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my I feel old.
I was at the LJ 4-point play game, and game 6 eastern conference finals. The whole stadium was standing for the entire 4th quarter.
i was a freshman in high school
it was quite a wild ride, equally due to houston’s series-winning shot, lj’s four point play, and my raging hormones.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
As a sophomore now I can only hope to witness as much success as you did in high school
Dealing with my best friend who’s a Celtics fan and his whole extended family during games one and two was awful. I was almost invited to never come back after my little display at the end of game one.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
haha, keep it up in that case
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
They luckily understood my Italian rage
And that I was polite otherwise.. I was uncontrollably telling Kevin Garnett that he was a “cheating piece of shit who clearly tripped DWTDD”
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like italian neorealism to me
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Seth's humor kept me from losing my mind
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
it was pretty great moment to have as a formative knicks fan
i have a framed photograph of houston’s shot at the buzzer against the heat. even the stillness of the photograph moves me every time i look at it.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What was it like it?
Schotty go to the Dolphins
by 2xtheBully on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What was it like it?
Schotty go to the Dolphins
by 2xtheBully on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was 2
Schotty go to the Dolphins
by 2xtheBully on Dec 12, 2011 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i also was graduating high school
I was so distracted by the debauchery of the end of high school I don’t have great memories of the 99 series, I do have very vivid memories of 94 though, watching with my dad, .. so many tears. thank goodness for the Rangers,
I was 17 in 1999.
My senior year of high school. After years of Jordan and Reggie making my life miserable, I thought I was about to have my moment. But that whole run was magical for me, for once I had the upper hand on all my basketball loving friends and family, who of course all loved Jordan and the Bulls.
The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.
by JerzeeBalla on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I get this question all the time.
Standard answer: I would lose it. No elaboration, no specification. I would fucking lose it, and that’s all there is to it.
The only thing that would make me go more insane than the Mets winning it all
Is the Knicks, theirs always been something special about the Knicks to me, don’t know what it is.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well thats a good thing
Because the Mets aren’t winning one any tine soon.
I would go equally apeshit if the Raiders won a superbowl or the Knicks won a Championship I think.
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 8:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Raiders can't get out of their own way
2 first rounders for Palmer is brutal, I mean I’m an Eagles fan so… DREAMTEAM
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Argh don't remind me
I wanted to punch myself in the face on Sunday
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 8:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You guys need to build around Mcfadden
If only you kept Nnamdi you’d be a legit playoff team.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
bush + mcfadden = best running back duo in the league
barely edging out tate & foster in houston. what do you raiders fans think you’re missing? or should this topic be terminated since it’s a knicks blog?
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
W/e we're waiting for more bball news
I’ll take Lesean Mccoy’s left and right half.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
he's legit, no doubt
i’m a texans fan though…lived in houston when they were founded, and i had never really followed the nfl up to that point. it’s been simultaneously a fantastic and devastating season for us.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
You live in Houston?
How’d you end up rooting for the Knicks?
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
lived in houston in the early 2000's
i’ve rooted for the knicks since 1995, though. they’re my first true pro sports team, handed down to me by my dad, who like me, only really cares passionately about basketball.
at this point, i root for the knicks first, then the texans, then UCLA (my graduate school and only college associated team that’s relevant in sports)
can’t claim to actually care about baseball in any real way.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
You guys are cursed. Finally put it together and Andre, Schaub, and Mario go down
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah well if McFadden could stay on the field pretty sure we wouldn't be in the position we are now
We have a had a stack of injuries Only had two wideouts fit for the Packers game and the lack of McFadden makes our run game one dimensional and PENALTIES oh my frikken god!!
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i didn't put 2 & 2 together until now
but we must have a few raiders fan on here, huh, ozraider?
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah there are a couple
It’s only because I found Silver and black pride first or it would have probably been Ozknick!
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 9:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There's actually a chance I would cry
I guess it depends on what the Finals series was like. If it was a 7-game battle with close games against a hated opponent and such, I might cry or just go insane.
If it was a 5-game series where we had control most of the time, and the competition wasn’t heated… I guess I’d have prepared myself and I’d just be plain happy
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I would just start running
Forest Gump Style
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I have a bit of background for this
because my beloved Cardinals won the World Series this year, and I was at the stadium for Game Seven. I don’t think I stopped shouting for an hour afterwards. It didn’t sink in for at least another week.
The most overwhelming excitement I’ve ever felt. Hopefully I can do it again with the Knicks!
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
die
Most Definitely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGTVp-gHtU
by Ray Smuckles on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
It was really cool to see the Mavs and their fans go through with that
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
The first time I ever cried over sports was the end of game 7 of the '94 Finals
I was 10. I couldn’t watch the final 2 minutes. I listened on the radio and bawled into my pillow.
This would be the second time.
I still blame Pat Riley for that
Everyone knew that Starks was a very streaky shooter. He was ice cold that night. If Starks was benched in the 2nd half, the Knicks would have probably been champions.
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I remember with like a minute left
He finally brought Hubert in and the kid promptly drained a three that briefly gave us hope… but it was too late.
He also could have brought in Relando Blackmon…..
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Almost same for me.
First time was one of those times in the first Bulls 3 peat when they eliminated us. Game 6 or 7 I think. I was in middle school. I just remember the clock winding down, and I just lost my mind and started crying like I lost my brother or something. My mom, who is insane for Jordan, comes downstairs and asks why Im crying. Im like “We can NEVER BEAT JORDAN!!!!” She says, and ill never forget this, “Dont feel bad. No one can beat Jordan.” And walks off. If I ever wanted to tell my mom fuck you, it was that moment.
Game 7 in 94 was the second time I cried over sports. Third and last time was when Oakland beat Miami like 65-0 in the NFL playoffs in like 96 or something.
The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.
by JerzeeBalla on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Man, I remember that feeling
Being frustrated and feeling hopeless about never being able to beat Jordan. I respect him a ton these days – there really has never been anyone remotely like him on the court – but back then, man, I hated him.
Just gonna throw this out there
Mo Williams, Mo Williams, Mo Williams!
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by WSD on Dec 12, 2011 8:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i don't like him
i’m not analyzing his skills or PER or anything…just don’t like his face / demeanor.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is perfectly reasonable
and I agree
TYBG
by The Rooster on Dec 12, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Remember that the Clippers threw in the 1st overall pick along with Baron
Just to get this guy (and cap space but shut up I’m making a point)
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying this as a good thing?
Can’t tell
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I'm saying I prefer him to Baron
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, how?
Clippers would have to amnesty him ( and he would have to pass waivers) or they would have to cut him. And even then all the Knicks can offer is 2 years 5 mil.
From what I've heard
He has been or will be amnestied (still don’t know if that’s an actual word). There’s always a chance he won’t make it through waivers, but Billups was just picked up for $2 mil, so it seems like these guys that have the amnesty clause used on them, are running fairly cheap.
Right now, since the Clips have or already have used the amnesty on him, he’s more likely than Baron, but of course he still has to clear waivers
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but they may have to amnesty him
to pay Jordan
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Wouldn't fit cap wise
And I don’t think hes very good anyway
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
He is a RFA
Knicks can’t make any real offer, plus the Pistons would match.
Also he isn’t a real PG and isn’t a great shot.
It looks like CP3/clippers talks are back on
Do we think Chauncey would like or dislike playing with Paul?
The Clippers are still a few pieces away so probably not
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 12, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I am so over Chauncey right now I couldnt care less
lol
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by Ozraider on Dec 12, 2011 9:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On a side note
Watching this got me all giddy for some reason. BASKETBALLS BACK LOLZ
http://www.msg.com/videos/all-access-knicks-training-camp
meh
disregard the link. it copied the wrong one for some reason.
by Fabfreebird on Dec 12, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Watched this earlier
I think it’s them, but Devin Green and Chris Hunter looked pretty good. Can’t tell if TD’s alley oop to Tyson was a terrible pass or a mis-timed jump. Iman’s 3 at the end was puhretttyyy!!
And Jared Jeffries missed a layup
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not much defense in that clip, but then again they make the court look like it's 20 feet long
our guys have length…aaaaaaaand pause.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
looked like TC jumped early to me
some nice layups in traffic by STAT and Landry
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by Taylor Made on Dec 12, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure which it was either, but ...
needless to say timing was off somewhere. It’ll be there with time working together.
I noticed that about Green and Hunter
and yes, Shumps jumper was awfly purdy.
Off topic, and I'm taking this from the Facebook fan page that Taylor Made linked to in a Fan Post, but...
how many of you guys have seen this Shumpert highlight? Has it been on this site before? I don’t recognize it, and I DEFINITELY would if I had seen it, because it is fantastic. It’s a dunk contest from at some point this summer with some fellow 2011-12 rookies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IEHt_YBhW5c
I think we know who won that contest.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions
the kid makes it look easy
and that last dunk is just DIRTY
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by Taylor Made on Dec 12, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Iman-Shumpert-for-2012-NBA-Dunk-Contest/306603346029150?sk=wall
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by Taylor Made on Dec 12, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
preach the gospel my friend
preach it.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hah the comments on that vid from the uploader
@nogoodnpg the knicks shud trade chauncey for a C and make shumpert the pg of the future
NBAFailsTV 1 month ago 2
i'd make a comment on the video
but i’m pretty much speechless.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jamal Crawford?
Were Penny Hardaway, Steve Francis and Starbury not available?
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa
I’m not on the Jamal train either, but he’s a quality player in this league right now. Those three don’t compare.
Anyway Jamal’s not happening.We’d either have to give up Toney Douglas or he’d have to take a major paycut and neither of those things are happening.
agreed
its a dead argument at this point
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by Ray Smuckles on Dec 13, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
wtf?
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I like Jamal, but ...
He’s not the piece we’re missing. I think we’re better with him, although it’d mean less minutes for some guys I want to see log them. Really, the problem is that I don’t think he pushes us over the top to win.
Of course he isn't..
Chauncy Billups is..
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Chauncey Billups
is a bitter old man. I predict that he will be reminded of the wonderfulness and preciousness of life by a Clippers ballboy diagnosed with a deadly disease.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Wow Berea sounds pretty happy about being in Minny
Jose Juan Barea: “Honestly, (the decision) was not so difficult. It was my moment. I’m 27 and peaking and you have to take advantage of that. I would love to be with a contender, but this is a job and with this I guarantee the future of my family.” Primera Hora
LMFAO
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And k.Love sounds pretty happy to have him
Jose Juan Barea: “Honestly, (the decision) was not so difficult. It was my moment. I’m 27 and peaking and you have to take advantage of that. I would love to be with a contender, but this is a job and with this I guarantee the future of my family.” Primera Hora
DAYUM XD
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I would also be ready to start a family if I was dating who he is right now.
Not mad at him at all.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
translation
“I did it for the money”
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F____K the dumbsh-t
Dolan has already made that fool very rich. Jamal Crawford got paid like a king to do very little in the way of winning around here. He wants to be here then take the 2.5 Mil and keep it moving. I hope Warky points out that Jamal lives in a very nice home, I have seen pictures of it, it’s an F____ing palace, and maybe he should consider giving a little back to the man and the city that made it possible for him to live like a King in the Pacific Northwest! Even now we are doing more for him than he would be doing for us. The best offer he has on the table is from Detroit. I am not a mystic but I believe we will win far more games than Detroit this season!
Well said...
also…. DETROIT? Say what you want about Minnesota and Kahn, but Dumars can’t seem to stop collecting guys that aren’t quite point guards and aren’t quite shooting guards.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
wtf Detroit? Where did they come from?? And why?
In hindsight it’s starting to look like Dumars really really stumbled ass-backwards into that championship team.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/CrawfordMunson080206.html
Knicks guard Jamal Crawford earned one of the highest honors bestowed on New York athletes on Tuesday night, as he received the prestigious Thurman Munson Award for all of the off-court work he has done in the community.
At the ceremony, Crawford was introduced by Knicks legend Walt “Clyde” Frazier, a previous winner of the Munson Award. Frazier spoke glowingly of the Knicks guard and mentioned the approximately $200,000 worth of donations Crawford has made to help those less fortunate in both New York and his hometown of Seattle.
In naming Crawford’s accomplishments, such as completely renovating a library at P.S. 58 in the Bronx as well as constructing a new basketball court at his alma mater, Rainier High School, Frazier said he has been rejuvenated and motivated to make an even bigger difference in the community himself.
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Just pointing out that he's not a selfless a-hole who's in it for the riches
I would love for him to take less and play here, and I think he should because the experience for him after being here doing some of the worst years would be great. But you can’t blame him if he opts for a bigger contract
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Zactly
His earning years are coming to an end. We can’t fault him for making the most of it.
I’m really not a fan of people telling these players that they should take less money. It’s so easy for us to say that. It’s like with expecting Carmelo and Chris Paul to lose millions to have the privilege of playing with THE new York Knicks, just not realistic.
Jamal’s a stand-up dude even if he has an ostentatious house.
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Nobody said he was and frankly I wouldn't care if he was. I believe all professional athletes should be
in it for the money. You cannot eat championship rings. But my point still stands, the primary argument for him taking 2.5 mil to come here is the fact that the Knicks have already made him rich, the contract he just finished that paid him 68 Million dollars was approved by whom? James Dolan, that’s who. So obviously he knows Dolan will open his checkbook when given the chance to .
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