Where Things Stand With Jamal Crawford, Shawne Williams, and Maurice Evans
With training camp nearing its end and the preseason just days away, (AHHHHH!!!1) the Knicks remain uncertain about the the completion of their roster. Said uncertainty radiates from the frontal lobe of Jamal Crawford. His waffling is keeping the Knicks from squandering their "room" exception, while a couple other "room" candidates wait to see how things shake out. Let's see what the latest is on each of the parties involved.
Crawford rejected the relatively substantial offer from the Pacers that I linked to yesterday, but is mulling comparable offers from Sacramento and Portland. The Blazers seem to be the front-runner, as they can pay the full mid-level (by amnestying Brandon Roy) and play near Crawford's hometown of Seattle (there are no reports that the Knicks have considered relocation, at least not yet). Portland is what his mom wants, too. (Update on Portland's offer: I was wrong about using the amnesty on Brandon Roy, though that had been suggested in some reports. It sounds like their involvement in a potential Dwight Howard trade might be the thing that frees up space. That might take a while.)
The fact that Crawford's decision has taken this long is somewhat encouraging, but the Knicks should probably bank on Crawford heading elsewhere. In that case, they'll pass the "room" offer to one of the other unsigned bros waiting in the wings. Shawne Williams has multi-year offers from other clubs, (including those dastardly Nets) and would love to see the Knicks ante up. I've seen no indication that New York definitely intends to raise their offer to Williams if Crawford signs elsewhere, but it seems like a fair assumption.
Maurice Evans's name has recently been tossed into the running as well. Evans, "The Human Pectoral", is an adequate enough defender, a gifted labor negotiator (might be useful if the rookies unionize over towel-carrying duties or something), and seems like the type who would magically animorph into a three-point specialist on a D'Antoni squad. That said, I think most of us would prefer Extra E (if you differ, let us know why).
Baron Davis still hasn't been waived (Cleveland has until Friday), and it appears that his back problem is, like, actually a back problem. So, despite his perhaps being the best fit of all the guys mentioned, Davis doesn't seem to be getting much attention.
If all else fails, Zabian Dowdell's available, though the Knicks might be well past their Cool Names Quota for 2011.
Thus, the Knicks find themselves with a modest sum to offer, sandwiched between a guy who'd be stooping to accept it and at least one who seems to be holding out for it. Their patience has been admirable, but one hopes they don't wait too long and strike out completely.
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My first choice continues to be Shawne.
That being said, we haven’t discussed Evans much.
I wouldn’t be mad at all if we ended up with him. He’s a defensive minded player who can hit shots (although not with the accuracy of the Poopemeister). He’s athletic, he’s a good locker room guy, and he doesn’t need the ball in his hands.
I think he’d make a great consolation prize.
Waiting for Christmas...
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 AM EST reply actions
Some of you might take exception to this, but if I had to rank my desire to sign these guys...
1. Shawne Williams (want the most)
2. Mo Evans (not as much as Shawne)
3. Jamal Crawford (the least)
Sorry, Jamal. I just keep having visions of you complacently swiping at the ball on defense and not moving your feet, never crashing the boards when we we’re getting destroyed in the paint, and dribbling 10 seconds off the shot clock before launching a contested jumper.
You were a really classy guy though, and I liked your dribbling skills a lot.
Waiting for Christmas...
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Mo Evans, really?
He and Bibby can get special rocking chairs at the end of the bench and compete over who’s more washed-up.
by flossy on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you actually seen Mo Evans play of late Flossy?
The guy is far from washed up. He finished the year in Washington so I am somewhat familiar with his play. He averaged 9.7 points per game and 2.8 rebounds mostly coming off the bench for the for the wizards. He shot 35% from 3, had a TS of .531 and an efg % of.500. In addition he was one of the few players on the Wizards who even attempted to play defense. He is also an experienced vet who knows him limitations and will not try to step out of his assigned role. Sure he is not a world beater, but if used correctly can be a solid veteran player off the bench, he’ll shoot only when he’s open and play defense. If jamal and Poope are off the table Evans will slide in an play what the 10 or so minutes Carmelo will leave off the bench. That would allow Bill Walker, who has been working at the stratch 4 role with the absence of Poope from what I have seen in practices. Walker is 6’6 240 lbs strong as an ox and has a 40 inch vertical. And if you know anything about Bully he will tell you that he would rather play the 4 than the 2 or the 3 spot. And for 10 or 12 minutes a night Bully might be able to pull it off.
Don’t always look at individual player look fit. If we were looking to sign Mo Williams to start and play 30 mins a night then no way. But if he comes in and plays off the bench 10-12 mins. he could be effective.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
You want to give Mo Evans $2.5 mil?
I do agree that if Bill Walker is going to be a rotation player it will be as a small PF. Been saying that for a year now.
I am not giving Evans a damn thing Dolan is
I am merely pointing out that Evans is a far more useful player than you make him out to appear. And since you only have to offer the 2.5 mil for one year not mutliple years like the MLE, sure why the hell should I care if Mo Evans gets 1 mil more than league min for one year, if he does a solid job playing his role off the bench.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
in the Newsday article Señor Poope said money and years aren't a problem
so hopefully he signs for the vets min allowing us to get someone else. Any news on Jerome Jordan and his work visa status? i dont know how long that process takes but the first game is caturday… SATURDAY
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 9:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He said that in April, though.
If that was still completely the case, wouldn’t he have signed for the vet’s min by now? (Not saying I blame him.)
very true but maybe, possibly
he could be waiting to see if Crawford will sign with us. if Crawford does then possibly he takes the vet min and if Crawford doesnt then he’d ask for the “roome” and i say the Knicks should definite give it to him at that point
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 9:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haven't heard anything about Jordan
since that ESPN article that mentioned that his visa stuff was still being settled.
Rudy Fernandez got his
can’t he shed some quickly obtaining visa secrecy??
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can you just show up friday
Or do you have to buy a ticket ahead of time?
by nynobis on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i THINK you need tickets
i would get them to be on the safe side
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Baron Davis might have a herniated disc
I’m no doctor, so I have to rely on Google to learn about these things. If Wikipedia is correct that ‘’the majority of herniated discs will heal themselves in about six weeks and do not require surgery,’’ then there is the possibility that Baron is about 2 months away from playing again. That works for the Knicks, provided that he can get healthy, and stay healthy.
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yo Baron, play up the severity of your injury in the media but tell Grunwald what's really up
That’s not illegal right?
TYBG
Or he can not tell Grunwald a thing
but let everyone know that he now feels 100% the second that he clears waivers. And then sign on the blue and orange dotted line.
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
with this 66 game schedule
that’s like half the season
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
re: healing time of Davis' back
i gotta learn to use the quotes more, such a doofus.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Losing those games is just the flip side of actually getting the opportunity to sign him
We’ll probably make the playoffs without Baron Davis. With him, however, we’ll probably go deeper into the playoffs than we would without him.
Also, if this back injury doesn’t reoccur, the Knicks would start next season with a set starting 5 that can truly contend for a title.
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
all very true
though if they were to sign Baron at this point I’d assume we would offer him a deal of the one year variety. I could be wrong though.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
that would give us room to resign him next year
if all pans out well
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I had one
After three weeks of therapy I was allowed to play sports again, but it still hurt like hell. I took a lot of pain killers to keep playing. I made sure I did the proper back and ab stretches constantly and lost some weight. It healed up nicely.
Granted, BD is a pro and I’m not and it does depends on how severe it is.
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by Giantssincesix on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
The herniated disk seems unlikely to me
because even though doctors won’t say it to you but you pretty much have to be over 40 to get one. This is speaking from experience, I was convinced I had one when I threw out my back but then then the like 20 doctors in my family told me how ridiculous I was and it was pretty much not possible at my age. If he does have a herniated disk, it means he has a really really bad back and in that case we should prob pass unless it was vet’s minimum
I had one when I was 21
so it’s definitely possible, especially if you consider the kind of stress these guys put their bodies through. But that being said, I agree with you: any back problem more severe than “it’s kinda stiff” is bad news for professional athletes, especially older ones.
by nocookiesforme on Dec 14, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
when did the injury occur though
i heard it was over the summer
and who knows if it’ll take more time for the injury to be nba ready
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The problem here is if the Knicks really wanted Poop over Jamal
Wouldn’t this already be a non – issue? I keep swinging back and forth on these 2….
Just go get Shawne and lets end the drama
Leaning toward Poope
Is he a better player than Jamal Crawford. Absolutely not. But in terms of what fits, I like wrapping up Shawne, and the primary reason is that I like the way he defended LeBron in the end of a game when the Knicks beat the Heat last year.
Crawford is a good-passing shooting guard who can play the point in a pinch and has quite a bit of clutchiness about him. And I suppose, in the end of the game, if Melo and Amar’e are bottled up, that’s a good thing.
But I think we are undervaluing Toney’s offense. Toney can score too, and has shown a flair for making big plays at the end of the game. I have serious doubts about Toney’s decision making but I think he’s a clutch scorer and he’ll get better at that.
So, though getting Craw for 2.5 million would be an absolute steal, I think that factoring in Toney’s significant offensive game, Poope’s defending and continuity, they’d be better served by signing Poope now and waiting around to see if they can snag Davis.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Well, Toney might be able to hit clutch shots, but he can't create his own shots like Crawford can.
Honestly, I wouldn’t trust Toney to do anything more than give the ball to Melo in the last few seconds of a game.
Waiting for Christmas...
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
An ode to the poopsmith
His name is Shawne with an “E”
It’s extra, not there it should be
In the corner he poops
while draining his hoops
He’s best at the deep corner Three
by Jarett on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
nice
remember the limerick contest? that was fun
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 14, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
this may sound insanely retarded, but hear me out
say we dont get Crawford but we sign Señor Poope, knowing Toney can score, who not start Bibby (it aches to say) and save TD’s fire power for the second unit so it isnt totally depleted of scorers. it would sound a HELLUVA lot better if we so happen to get Biddy from cleveland but at the moment we dont and we can use his scoring in the second unit. Please dont stone me.
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
look i barely agree with myself as it is
and as i said, it would sound better a billion times over if you replaced bibby with Baron “Biddy” Davis, but instead of going out with the second unit and no scorer, we have TD (say we dont get crawford or now Evans) on the second unit to put up buckets. We cant just rely on just Poope to poope in the corner as a main source of scoring and then thats where the buck stops. it may sound asinine but its sensibly asinine
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know what you mean
It highlights the need for another guard who’s not Mike Bibby
TYBG
by The Rooster on Dec 14, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
As much as I prefer Toney too,
What if Bibby starts running a consistently sick pick n roll with STAT and Melo? He hasn’t had partners like that since young Chris Webber.
Waiting for Christmas...
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
thats all i would really want from bibby (if he was to start)
you have to play bibby honest because he’s still a threat from 3 and if you do play him honest then you’re rollin to the basket Huffing and Stuffing.
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As a matter a fact, it only makes sense to have Bibby on the floor with either STAT or Melo.
His only strength is on offense hitting threes and running the pick n roll.
What’s he gonna do with Jeffries, or Poope, or Bully? He’s useless with a second unit.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
because he was so good
with LeBron and Wade?
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Lebron and Wade have never been considered pick n roll players.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
good point
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
When Does D'Antoni play a second unit, except when he is up by 20?
D’Antoni rarely has 5 bench players in the game at the same time, even when he goes 5 deep into his bench, but mixes them in with starters. Secondly, I doubt that there will be many instances this season when both Carmelo and Amare are off the court at the same time if both are healthy, not in foul trouble, and we are not either getting beat by 30 or beating someone by 30.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
check yo self
before you wreck yo self, sir.
Most Definitely
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by Ray Smuckles on Dec 14, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
stone him!
but for reals, I don’t trust Bibby yet, It’s not a bad idea but I for one would need time to ease into a maneuver like that. That’s too much Bibby for me all at once….pause.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
i mean just like last year you're still playing TD 25+ min.
so we wouldnt be “over-bibbied” (in my theory) but we severly need a scoring boost in our 2nd unit and having TD there kinda fills that void
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't disagree
It makes alot of sense actually, not to say that I’m confident it’ll work but it there would definitely be a need and a reason to make that type of a line up work for us.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'd still prefer TD in the starting lineup over Bibby
I think it’ll be the VERY rare time when Melo and Amare are both sitting at the same time (foul trouble, with a decent lead or in blowouts being it).
i do too, i highly prefer TD over bibby in the starting lineup
but i think this may be an alternative to addressing a need heaven forbid we dont get either Crawford, Biddy or Evans or someone of that caliber
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Even as a backup
Bibby could still share the floor with Amar’e and Melo quite a bit. And Toney could be on the floor when Amar’e and/ or Melo is out of the game.
Your starters at the 1, 3, and 4 are not going to be subbed in and out as a monolithic block. Toney’s the starter but I think Bibby is a nice change of pace and perfect as a backup. Particularly since he’ll be more likely to be having to guard second string point guards.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i honestly feel our true Starters are at the 3,4 and 5. 1 and 2 are interchangeable and what i mean by that is they probably will play 25-30 depending on how the game is going. thats pretty much how it was ran last year at the 1,2 and 5
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bibby plays 15 minutes tops and does what he does best
Bring the ball up, Move it(Bibby does not tend to dribble a hole in the floor), not turn the ball over (Bibby takes decent care of the basketball), run an occasional pick and roll and the rest of the time spot up and shoot open 3’s. The issue with Bibby folks is at his age and with his mileage he can not handle playing 30 minutes a game any longer, as he is too big of a liability on defense and it is very difficult hide a guy on defense for that length of time in a game. Bibby is one of those players who long ago reached the stage where he was better suited to come off the bench, it is just that no one put him there. D’Antoni made it pretty clear that he thought Bibby was still a good player but made sure to stress “COMING OFF THE BENCH!”
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else think
that Dan Gilbert is contemplating not using the amnesty on Davis, just so he cant go to a “big market” team?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
probably
I mean he is an idiot so…
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
that's been the rumor since Boom's been rumored to be amnestied
also I hope I’m not the only one to pronounce it “Jill-Bear”.
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by Rorschach44 on Dec 14, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, but I also think part of him would allow Davis to go to the Knicks
if he thought it would help stand in the way of LeBron getting a ring.
’Cause dude is crazy and vindictive like that.
Good point
I never thought of that. But he was pretty pissed off about the Lakers getting Paul though, and that also might have prevented a LeBron title.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i don't blame him for being pissed
I would be pissed too. Lakers were trying to take advantage of a helpless franchise and give them trash in return for a superstar pg. Lakers would not only have dumped 2 older guys with bad contracts, but they would then be able to trade for Howard, save millions, and still sign other players. It took us years to rebuild and we had to trade away young talent to get Melo and a bunch of garbage that came with him, and, yes, I would be pissed too. It be shady and unfair. I am glad NBA owns the Hornets and did not allow it. It’s also funny how Hornets are asking for so much from Clippers yet were willing to settle for that stupid deal from Lakers. I heard some say that the deal was good for everybody and better than nothing but I disagree.
Lakers would have benefited mostly and would go from an aging team with big contracts to a new team with superstars and money.
I agree that was not a good deal for the Hornets
But I thought the Clippers deal was pretty decent.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
yeah the clippers deal was way better, but they didn't wanna give up so much just for CP3
and I can’t blame them.
He is comtemplating not Amnestying him because he would still have to pay a min of 85%
of Davis’ salary. And as Gilbert is not raking in doe now that the cash cow I mean Lebron is gone, that is a steep amount of cash to pay someone to go play for another team. If Davis is healthy enough to play this season he is better off keeping him as maybe he can help the Cavs win some games instead of paying him to help the Knicks or the Heat or the Lakers win games.
We have to remember that the Amnesty clause actually benefits Big market teams like the Knicks more than it does the little guys. Dolan has the cash to pay Chauncey 12 mil to free up cap space to pay Chandler 13 mil. By using the Amnesty Dolan actually increased the money he is paying out. Gilbert would have to sign someone to fill Davis’ roster spot on top of paying Davis, so why would he be in a rush to amnesty him. Amnestying players frees up cap room but actually costs owners more money than keeping the guy in the first place.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know why we're not scouring all ends of the earth for Mustafa Shakur
aside from being pretty good at basketball his name is “Mustafa. Shakur.”
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions
to the death!
winner gets to legally add on the others name to their own to become “Mustafa Zabian Dowdwell Shakur” or “Zabian Mustafa Shakur Dowdwell”
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
him or Skip to my Lou
handle the rock, pass the rock and possibly break some ankles in the process… love it
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
speaking of Skip to my Lou...
i dreamt that the Knicks signed The Professor from And1 Mixtape Tour as the new STARTING PG… that could’ve worked IMPO lol
"To be honest with you, it could've used a little more Cowbell!"
Two Arizona PGs?
I like it. ;-)
But he did well in his stint last year, so I’d be surprised if he wasn’t already on someone’s camp roster as an invite, etc.
that's what I'm saying
he wasn’t half bad at all when he was up against NBA competition playing for a pretty shitty Wizards team which followed a very strong D league career averaging 18 pts and 6 assists.
I’m just saying, the front office should investigate and if should happen to pay off and they wanna send me some tickets I won’t be too mad.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I remember his Arizona career...
and seem to recall him being a pretty “smart” player. He didn’t force much and seemed to run the offense well. I think he’d actually be a pretty good fit for us based on that if we were lucky enough to land him somehow.
So yeah, I agree… and if you get those tickets, don’t forget me my friend… ;-)
I like Arizona players so I am partial but yeah I like Mustafa
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
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Say What?! Bwah Hah ha!
I still hope for Eddy to be more than the train wreck at the end of playing for the knicks
Just like how I still hope Darko will one day play more competently.
Or Greg Oden stop being injured.
A void? I see no void!
I don't
but only because he’s on the Heat now
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um, eddy, you were the one who was horrible to us
not the other way around
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YUP! I once felt bad for him and always liked Eddy and understood he had bad "luck"
But alot of that bad luck was a product of his own decision making. But when you have every opportunity to excel, and let’s be honest – this dude had enuff rope to climb Everest, then act like you’d been jilted?! Take responsibility for you r fat ass and recognize your lack of conditioning caused your long overdue demise from the Knicks. At least Jerome James went quietly into the night with his paycheck. And he’s talking shit after already missing what, 3 practices? Eddy needs to shut up and be thankful that he still has an opportunity to do something he loves, and if he fails and hasn’t squandered his millions, he can retire to a comfortable lifestyle and pursue something new.,
Very little of it was bad luck
He just never gave a shit. Everyone who knew him said he was a nice guy with no passion for the game.
I no longer feel sorry for him but to be objective
He has taken his fair share of lumps and fans and media alike did treat him pretty shitty towards the end of his tenure.
NY has a habit of not giving a fuck about a player once he’s not productive anymore which I understand so I wouldn’t say it’s entirely accurate that he was treated well.
Maybe the team and staff were good to him but by time he left I was hearing some truly vicious things about him from the fans and media.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
lmfao what an asshole
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Eddy Curry should never talk shit again
he tried fucking a male limo driver, son keep your mouth shut
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Dude has already missed a round of two-a-days with the Heat
Now he’s gonna come dominate the Knicks?
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can we just bring Poops home?
Poops is what we want, we want Poops!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 AM EST reply actions
its funny because idk if anybody outside of this site calls Shawne Poops
I was watching games with my friends and found myself screaming POOOOOOPS! and they thought I was f;n nuts
Im like your not a fan of the Poops? they were like who the fuck is Poops?
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions
We will know by the end of the day today
One way or another. The silence is deafening!
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i think we're gonna get Jamal now
if Portland’s offer really is contingent on engineering a three-way Dwight Howard trade (where the Magic only end up with Brook Lopez and Gerald Wallace!), i just can’t see them really being able to finalize Jamal’s deal. also, does Jamal really want to go to Sacramento and get all his shots taken by Tyreke, Thornton, and THE JIMMER!?!
i’m feeling pretty good about this.
by latrell chokewell on Dec 14, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
are the Magic really that desperate to get rid of Turkoglu and get something for Dwight
that they’ll take Brooke?
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by Rorschach44 on Dec 14, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
rorsh, Ill believe it when i see it....i mean the packages that the NBA are rejecting for Chris paul are twice as good as the best the Nets can offer for an even better player.
Can’t believe Orlando put themselves in this corner.
Updated the post
Doesn’t sound like that’s the case (though I read that in some places, too). Roy’s inury-related retirement relieves any need to amnesty him, I suppose.
Not really
Injury related retirement: Money comes off cap in 1 year.
Amnesty: Money comes off cap immediately.
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by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just have to ask
do people think this landry/toney/iman/bibby/walker back court is fine? Because to me, it absolutely is not okay, and an upgrade is very important. Like, I can’t just sit back and hope those guys take it up a notch because I know that’s probably not going to happen. I like Landry and Toney as role players, but right now we don’t have anyone who’s particularly good at setting up an offense, and that’s a pretty big problem (maybe Bibby, I guess, but it’s Bibby . . .). Carmelo can’t hit entry passes to himself, and I guess Tyson just won’t see any lobs . I am pretty sure the guys running our team recognize our back court is a serious weakness and will be working toward upgrading it.
As for Iman. He is a completely unknown quantity. Maybe he is the next Dwyane Wade or maybe he is a total zero. We can’t assume either way right now.
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Good question
I love the idea of throwing young guys out there and seeing if they can step up. So I’d say that I’m hopeful that this backcourt can do the job, but am I really super-confident? Well, defensively, yes. Offensively no.
But given as we have Melo and Amar’e on our team, and the fact that Toney does have a pretty good offensive game and the ability to hit the three, I’d say the defensive side is actually more important.
Of course, offense is important too, and the real deficiency is likely to be in the playmaking/floor leadership department, and while Jamal improves that a bit with his passing ability and his experience, it may not be a dramatic improvement and the Knicks might be better served long term handing the reins to Toney and seeing how his leadership develops.
Of course, you could find that Toney and/or Shump don’t really step up in that department, which, as you suggest, is quite likely. But I would like to give them a chance and reassess later in the season with Baron Davis getting healthy and ready to step in. If no Davis, make a move with the midlevel next offseason.
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Jameer Nelson has the option to hit free agency.
Normally that would be unrealistic, but if Dwight leaves town, Jameer may want a ticket out of town (and he did outplay Felton in the playoffs).
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, meant to reply to "knickswin"
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
my thing is
I think we could be a contender THIS season if we could somehow manage to find some upgrades for our back court. It’s why I’m pushing for jamal and bdiddy so hard
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Felton is a free agent next summer...
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
really don't want him back
would rather try to work out something with nash or even old bdiddy. felton just doesn’t inspire confidence in me in the playoffs. his decision making is just not good enough IMO
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Really?
I gotta disagree there.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I liked felton because he was rootable
but I think we need a heady vet at the pg position, someone who can intelligently run the offense and shoot would be ideal, and Felton’s abilities at both of those are shaky. hated the way he played pick and roll. 70% of time time he’d look for himself, 25% he’d look for stat even if stat wasn’t really open, and then the remaining 5% he’d try to hit a wing. it made it seem like everyone other than him and amare was getting frozen out at times. he is not a particularly accurate passer either.
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But one thing about Felton I liked
is that he seemed to be in command out on the floor – a real team leader. I feel that is what’s missing from Toney at the 1. Craw? He can pass, but can he lead? A little – probably better than Toney.
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i mean, he had a nice game face
but I can’t see how he will bring what we’re looking for. We want a guy who can bring down the floor and set up the offense which will often mean just getting the ball to amare or carmelo, but sometimes it’ll mean getting the ball to tyson on a lob or hitting a cutter, and I don’t trust felton with that. his court vision is lacking as is his decision making. plus he throws kind of crazy passes.
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We were one of the best offensive teams in the league when Felton ran the point
We still were after too, but our efficiency dropped. Plus Felton brings an individual defnesive mindset, and he’s a fucking warrior. At one point, he was playing with tape around his hand, some kind of cast thing on his ankle and a bad back! The dude just never quit.
There are few signings the Knicks could make that would make me happier than bringing back Felton
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We were one of the best offensive teams in the league when Felton ran the point
plus this:
Felton brings an individual defnesive mindset, and he’s a fucking warrior.
Is why this isn’t even a logical discussion to me. Nash is nice but I’m not paying him any type of wild numbers at his age just for nostalgia’s sake. He can’t defend. Period. We’re trying to become more balanced so our defense at least tries to be up to par with our offense and Felton(or a young dude like him) is a better match than Nash IMO. I don’t care who has the bigger name or more well established career, I want the best fit for the team.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Nash would be fun
And we’d have a damn good offense, but he’s not my top choice. I think if it came down to Felton or Jameer Nelson (who was mentioned before), I would go for Felton. He rarely gets injured and while he’s far from perfect, I think he’d be a great fit with this team.
I don’t know what it is, and I don’t have anything to back this up, but Felton feels like a championship PG. He’s not the best player on your team, he has faults, but just something about it feels right to me. Also, he feels like a true New York type of player which is cool too
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I'd go with chauncey Billups lol
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Felton is just one of those players that is done what's asked of him
and more importantly, he has the talent and tools at his disposal to do so.
Guys like that are needed to win, so you have a point.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of lobs to Tyson Chandler
in one of the practice videos on knicksnow, they showed TD tossing (and failing) an alley to Chandler… they’ll connect soon
by blackhova on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nice to see they're working on it though.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
will they though? lol
I’m concerned about toney’s ability to accurately through it and to recognize when tyson’s open
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that was supposed to be "throw"
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From Alan Hahn
#Knicks pick-and-roll drill has been a dunk-a-thon. Emphasis on lobs for alley-oop lobs. Sure, no D in the way but still fun to watch.
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Jameer Nelson has the option to hit free agency.
Normally that would be unrealistic, but if Dwight leaves town, Jameer may want a ticket out of town (and he did outplay Felton in the playoffs).
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
i personally don’t think Felton was all that. He had a decent month in december but that’s about it. Sure, he was an upgrade over Marbury and other jokers we’ve had but that’s what made him look so good. Plus he played for MDA and any pg seems to look better. Denver allowed Felton to walk without chasing after him or making an effort to keep him. He was the least I cared about in the trade. I was heartbroken over Moz, Gallo and Chandler but not Felton.
They traded him
Which is different than letting him walk. Plus he was unhappy coming off the bench behind Ty Lawson.
Sure, his stats got inflated by D’Antoni and he looked good in comparison to past PGs, but Felton was a real All-Star candidate until he got hurt. That’s why his play fell off so dramatically in late January and February. He had a band wrist, ankle, and back. He was also logging like 39 minutes a game because the offense turned to shit when he sat down.
At his high point during his time with us, he averaged: 19 ppg, 9 apg, 4 rpg, and 2 spg on about 43 FG%. That’s legit
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Goran Dragic is unrestricted, but I think Houston views him as their pg of the future.
Still, he might have a rocky year and they might change their minds.
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
you have to go with what you got Knickswin
These guys are NBA players son, and you exaggerate their ineptness. As a coach you don’t look at what players can’t do, you look at what they can and then try to figure out how to win with what they can do. If you could get an all star at every position you wouldn’t need coaches.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, obviously we are going to make do for now and mike will do as good a job as he can
But I think we’re going to need better players if we want to contend.
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i may be outta touch but who is reggie williams?
wojo said we are finalists for him?
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions
he is on Golden State
guy can score
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 14, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
ahh so many williams in the world but one that matters to us more is shawne williams
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Poope is a 4, but his real game is corner pooping/scoring
so I’d much rather have Reggie Williams. Dude can light it up.
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but shawne has an extra e.
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Most Reginald's can go by Reggi
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ah toche!
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
How would Jamal fit with Amar'e?
If Jamal can play well with Amar’e when melo goes to the bench, that would be huge
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he would be great at playing pick and roll
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i think it would work fine
Jamal has pg handles and is an underrated passer. He is a SG but I could see him handling the rock and making plays.
still want to know why tyson wearing a diaper in his twitter background tyson from 3!? lol
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions
we can offer him the starting one and two lol
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and bagels :)
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
thats got to be a deal breaker right i mean why would u buy pizza from portland when NY pizza is so much better!
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
cinnamon bagels at that so its the deluxe version
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
And Sacramento has the edge when it comes to Salmons
So it’s definitely down to the wire.
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but he could come to the bronx on 154 melrose and have a guy named GAR serve it to him.
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
probably for most teams
but for us he would be the closest thing to a point guard, so I imagine he would start and then we could just stagger his, carmelo’s, and amar’e’s minutes such that at least one of them was always on the floor at all times
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No
Jamal Crawford would be a nice addition to the Knicks for $2.5 million but he is in no way a starting point guard.
Not even close
especially in this type of offense.
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i think he would kind of function as the point
we are not playing d’antoni ssol ball unless we sign steve nash or something, and even then it doesn’t make a ton of sense considering our best player is carmelo. d’antoni has already said he will be putting carmelo in the larry bird role in an interview with espn new york from earlier this week. grunwald said the same thing in an interview. we’re running some sort of motion based offense from the high post, possibly triangle. we don’t need some crazy dynamic point guard to run that offense.
in that light, jamal can function as a point guard. all he has to do is bring the ball up, play pick and roll with amare, hit a cutter, or make the entry pass to amare or carmelo so the offense can then run through one of them. he can do that.
it’d be kind of like the lakers. no one is really a true point, but between all their passers and ball handlers, the offense is run.
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I promise you, if Jamal Crawford is signed, he will not be our starting PG
that doesn’t mean he won’t handle the ball or make plays for others. But the logical role for him is to be the captain of the 2nd team and a way of ensuring that we always have two dangerous scoring threats on the floor when one of Melo/Amar’e sit.
by flossy on Dec 14, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if he will be our "starting pg"
but he will largely function in that role, and that’s what he will be doing during crunch time
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no he has the offense run through him
but he shouldn’t set up the offense unless we go full on triangle. someone else should set up the offense and get the ball to him in the post.
it’s like the tony parker/ duncan dynamic, or the jason kidd/ dirk dynamic, although I think carmelo would also take on some pick and roll duties.
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we can offer him multiple positions, and 6th man award. He will also have Stat, Melo and Tyson on his squad. He can content for a title in the or be closer to him in Portland but risk missing the playoffs. The west is deep with a lot of good teams but east is pretty much open for anyone. Besides Miami, Boston, Chicago, and maybe Atlanta and Orlando, the rest can be any of the eastern teams. Hells, even teams with losing records can make the playoffs in the east, yet there winning teams who miss it in the west.
You know what pisses me off?
Dallas just gave away Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer to the Nuggets for, wait for it, one second round draft pick.
I would have welcomed adding them both to the this team, Rudy especially. Could we not have coughed up a measly 2nd round pick? Or was that trade only possible b/c the Nuggets were under the cap?
Yeah that's a great idea
Get Rudy Fernandez so he can whine and complain how he’s going to stay in Europe….
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when we inquired about him last year...
It was all “oh, you guys don’t have any assets so give us a first rd pick”
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Corey Brewer is not the beast they thought he was
remember Minny Haha had been trying to get rid of the dude for years and could not get a taker, until the MELO trade. Fernandez is in Spain and said he’s not coming back. And yes Flossy the trade was made possible because the Nuggets have the cap room to absorb both players salaries. Dallas is clearing cap. By trading Brewer and Fernandez and not taking back salary they are clearing about 6 mil in cap room. Remember they are still trying to figure out how to trade for that tall guy whose name rhymes with Bright Poward.
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
frank isola
says devin green looks like a smaller younger danny granger not sure if he means his actual looks or performance.
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oh and jared jeffries still look like jared jeffries.
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
looks*
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by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
so?
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Time to join AARP
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not sure if that was an answer to a question or just general statement
lil’ confused. lol
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think that means it would be hard for him to be a smaller, younger Danny Granger
Because he is older than Danny Granger.
makes sense
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 14, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Broussard just said on the radio that Sacramento is offering Crawford 2 yrs/$13 mil
Taking the Knicks offer would be passing up a looot of money
sacramento is the meth capital of the world
great place to raise a family
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Is there a "Seth Capital?"
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Damn between Jimmer, Tyreke, and Mal' will they have enough basketballs!
Poor Demarcus Cousins and Marcus Thornton might need to make appointments to shoot!
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's all up to Crawford
Does he want to be on a team that has a chance for a title, or does he want to go to a team like the Blazers, Kings or Pacer that lets face it, are not going to be contending for a title.
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 14, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions
Portland wouldn't be a bad place to be
especially with his Pacific NW roots. It’s a cool city. Sacramento or Indiana though, my god avoid them like the plague.
TYBG
You'd have to be in the same locker room as DeMarcus Cousins.
Blecghh!
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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 14, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
don't discount the TD brother effect
yes Jamal has more natural basketball skills and he’s probably the best bad shot shooter in the NBA, but
TD has had an older brother who has been pushing him his whole life in both the physical and mental aspects of sports competition in general. This competition/effort/dedication related aspect is one of the most undervalued elements of a good player in the NBA.
Remember when Spree spent the whole summer playing his non-NBA bro 1 on 1? He came back with perhaps the best iso game in the league.
TD is only getting better
Of interest:
Baron has been diagnosed with a bulging disk. Isn’t that what Gallo had?
http://twitter.com/#!/BobCavsinsider/statuses/147032060647837696
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 14, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Correct sir.
Means that Baron will be out at least two months and if Physical therapy can’t unbulge it, dude will have to go under the Knife, which means no season!
by Robert Curre on Dec 14, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if that's what Gallo had buttt....
Its a herniated disk which means he’s out for like 1-2 months…
You know, I like Baron Davis as much as anyone, but there has been just way too much talk about how good he would be for NY and almost no talk about his fragility.
The Baron Davis TODAY is NOT the Baron Davis who played in Golden State and before.
This dude has zero durability and seemingly zero interest in getting into gameshape and playing hard.
What is it with us talking about bringing in guys who have rich injury histories and pretending they don’t?
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by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 14, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
One of the problems with Davis
Is that he is out of shape. He’s likely carrying extra pounds on the old gut, which probably isn’t helping his back any. Likewise, even if we did pick him up, it means he needs to heal and then get into actual game shape on a team full of pretty stellar athletes.
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Craw's latest tweet, in its entirety:
Gym time!
2 minutes ago.
but what does that MEAN!
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