In case you missed "Knicks Training Camp Live"...
If you were at work or in class or in the sewer licking garbage this afternoon, you probably missed "Knicks Training Camp Live", MSG's live look at a Knicks practice. We got to watch the guys run drills, scrimmage, and bro out with commentary from our good ol' announcer friends (plus the new guy, Alan Hahn). I'll put some notes after the jump, but they've now put video online, so you can just see the good parts yourself. And by "good parts", I pretty much mean this:
Talking shit to Dan D'Antoni, Amar'e Stoudemire, and one of the circuit training stations? Lavishing over-the-top praise on his teammates? Speaking to himself (Shump-Shump) in, like, fourth person? I love Iman Shumpert. I just love him. Take the jump Shump for a couple other things.
- Clyde spent the lockout in St. Croix, as you'd expect. He "refurbished like three houses".
- The upshot from the rest of the "Mic Checks": Tyson Chandler is definitely an avid dispenser of advice. Amar'e Stoudemire is a dispenser of trite nothings like "Less mistakes!" and "We've got to work on these drills!". Landry Fields makes some corny-ass jokes.
- Mike Woodson, at least while we were watching, was the defensive coordinator. He was also the samwich meat while demonstrating...something on defense:
- Instead of gym shorts, Amar'e wore sweatpants rolled all the way up to his thighs so he could pay attention to "aligning" his quadriceps. I have no idea what that means but I believe him.
- I'd forgotten that Greg Brittenham is no longer the strength and conditioning coach. I can't figure out who they were talking about, but the announcers said that the new guy is a Marine.
- During a film session, Toney Douglas was seen wearing the biggest wrap I've ever seen on his right shoulder and arm. He looked kinda like Mega Man.
- Also in the film session, Woodson made a big stink about ball pressure and picking up before opponents cross half court.
- Clyde, reflecting on his own training camp experience, noted that they never did "all these little mediocre drills".
- Missed dunks during an alley-oop drill: Carmelo Anthony reverse windmill, Jared Jeffries regular type.
- Tina Cervasio recounted that Melo wouldn't tell her what the focus of his offseason training was. I'm assuming he honed his ability to control and direct static electricity with his hands.
- Landry Fields's jump shot form hasn't gotten any prettier, but we heard once more that he'd been practicing corner threes. After one long-distance make in the "Mic Check" segment, Fields turned and yelled "SHAAAA!". Toney Douglas was like "what?". It was great.
- Glen Grunwald could use some help matching his shirt with his jacket.
- Jerome Jordan, to my eye, looked better at moving without the ball than he did in Vegas two summers ago. He also got manhandled by Chandler a few times, which is a good thing. I totally buy into the notion that practicing against Chandler every day could do wonders for Jordan's game.
- Without providing details, Grunwald mentioned that Landry and Shump did some performance in front of the whole team at last night's Chrismas party.
- At least in these scrimmages, Iman Shumpert was definitely a shoot-first point guard. He didn't hit many of his jumpers, but nobody really did. That's how scrimmages go. These particular scrimmages were more about the defensive sets ("scripts") than the offense, anyway.
- Mike Bibby looked pretty sharp. It's readily evident that he's the most composed half court ball-handler on the team. Shump looked a bit rushed (like I said, he often just pulled up) and Toney tended to drift to the corners and diminish his passing angles. Again, I wouldn't read too much into it.
- Melo brought the ball up a bunch, too.
- Josh Harrellson scrapped for plenty of loose balls. This pleases me.
- One interesting "Blue Team" unit: Bibby, Shump, Melo, Amar'e, and Chandler.
- Devin Green doesn't appear to be very good.
And that's all I've got! There'll be a replay on at 6 PM if you have MSG but weren't sitting on your couch at mid-day. If you do get the chance to watch, I'd definitely recommend it. There's not much to glean from the experience basketball-wise, but it's really a wonderful feeling to see these guys-- dormant for like eight months now-- actually do something on a basketball court.
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whoa, that's some good shump
thanks seth! wow. i can now go back up to read the recap.
I also think he should replace the faux hawk...
with a flat top!!!!
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
and Clyde chops
Dump dumps Oops oops.
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No flat top
unless it’s at least 6 inches tall.
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Cross (fan) posted
“Shump Shump ain’t touch you, it must have been Jerry. I looked at Shump’s arm and Shump didn’t touch you.”
I didn’t think it was possible, but my affection for the Shumpty Shump has grown.
That said, I’m not entirely sure who Jerry is. Anybody have any ideas? Maybe Seinfeld is an unsigned free-agent (and a hacker).
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions
That's a relief
Seinfeld is terrible.
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by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 16, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but
he can’t go to his left.
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by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 16, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Missed dunks during an alley-oop drill: Carmelo Anthony reverse windmill, Jared Jeffries regular type.
classic Jared.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Pretty sure Clyde said
Chyson Tandler in the beginning of the show.
Dump is filling a spot in my heart reserved for Poope
Dump dumps Oops oops.
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XD
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Devin Green's stats when he was in the league
on SB – 10 ppg
On NBA.com 5 ppg
On yahoo 0.9 ppg
Which is it?
Andy Rautins for mayor... or at least 12th man
Its 0.9 ppg
if you go to NBA.com you need to look at career season averages, not just the first profile page. You will see it is also 0.9 there too.
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by Giantssincesix on Dec 16, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
i am going to the rock tomorrow for the preseason game
jkgkdfhg kj so excited!! also, shumpert is so much fun to play in 2k12.
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he really is
aa soon as it updated i was practicing with him, but no JORTS unless hes a reserve
by blackhova on Dec 17, 2011 1:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the unnamed circuit coach was Herb Williams
He needed to put on that weight so he could bang with Eddy Curry.
by superturboultra on Dec 16, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions
I propose substituting all future jumps with Shumps. “The benching was Shumping up and down after Anthony buried a Shumpshot to give the Knicks the lead.”
I'm really shumped up for the season
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This will now
be how I describe any shot he makes.
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by JerzeeBalla on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I just can't wait to write
“KILL SHOT” in the game threads when Shump makes a jumper
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oh you know we will
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Shumpert just blew my mind! Loved that attitude...
I’m guessing he’s starting in a month, if it takes that long, – TD would be a great sixth man blaster off the bench with a chip on his shoulder… But either way, I’m good to go with those two at the point. Just get a back up 4. Can’t wait for this thing to get going…
Please don't say anything about Toney's shoulder having a chip on it...
he’s got enough problems with it already.
screw it ill post the link on here too, i think it on the wrong thread
http://www.msg.com/videos/allan-houston-on-the-new-season-1216-1.79206
A couple of Dump steals and a nice breakaway dump. Also anyone else notice Stat’s new glasses, pretty cool.
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oh man...Shump talks SHIT.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
i'm still leaning towards...
shump as our starting 2 with landry as our 6th man at the 2/3 with bibby as our backup PG.
landry will be better than shump at coming in as depth and bringing a “known” … and starting shump with our stars frees him up to play to his strengths and gamble more.
also… chris hunters is a BIG dude… jordan is long and lanky… TD looks jacked… jefferies looks… like jefferies… and i want more jorts.
shump = starks
I like the idea of this
I see Landry as a more complete offensive player and would bring more offensive punch off the bench and would be able to be a feature player on the second unit and would bring a real balance to the team in that role. It would also mean Dump would be forced to be selective with shots and improve his selection otherwise Amare’ and Melo would be all up on him.
I think its pretty clear Landry will start the season as the starter but i wouldn’t be totally surprised to see things shake out that way.
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I like what I'm hearing from Shump
He’s very talkative, trying to pump guys up. Maybe he can be a floor general… thinks
Get The Frickin' Rebound
I'd like to see better decision making before that happens
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
best quote...
“i want us to have the mentality of the old knicks team”
make it happen melo and we’ll be in contention for the next 5 years.
landry’s our battier… our horry… our glue guy who sees and fills the need…. DAMNIT LANDRY I LOVE YOU SO!
sorry
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man I really like Shump
people laughed at us but I think we got a real good player, at least he is confident
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 16, 2011 6:03 PM EST reply actions
SHUMP SHUMPPPPPPPP
Not only does he talk to himself and everyone else, but he’s helping teammates out during drills. ABOUT DEFENSE. Plus, did you see him drop and flatten out in proper help-side fashion when he man reversed the ball? I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight I’m so excited. (Shut up, ok. Basketball was gone for a long time, Knicks defense even longer.)
I noticed that
He really got after them.
God I love that man.
He’s gonna be our hockey goon.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Shump and Landry starting would be glorious.
I’m digging the thickened, uber-athletic vibe I’m getting from Landry. And Shump seems surprisingly in command and control running the point. But then again, this is just scrimmage.
Would like to see some of that though.
by Crackback on Dec 16, 2011 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Shump Shot!
Knicks basketball baby! So excited.
DWTDD Presses the steal button!
Did this dude just did this?
So excited to watch the game tomorrow
A REAL GAME, guys!
Also, is it me, or does Jorts look much smaller than 6’ 10". Maybe like 6’ 8" or something like that
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Jorts looks a little taller than Melo
But definitely shorter than Amar’e. Not quite center-sized, but seems like he’s got a nice soft touch on his shot.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
yeah, he is definitely not a center lol
compare him to tyson and it’s a joke (i’ve noticed that tyson is hugggeeee btw. oh yeah that’s what a center looks like)
i am actually starting to think that he could be a rotation player. fill in the shawne williams void
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cant wait for tommrows game
ill be there in prudential reppin the knicks . cant wait to see the newcombers in action for first time
I just jumped in my DeLorean and checked out tomorrows game and took a quick snap for you guys

Dump.
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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
I like how there’s a dude in the crowd beneath Shump’s left leg, clapping his hands, but not looking at the play. He’s probably calling for popcorn
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He should'a had his popcorn ready
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Is it just me or does it seem like Chris Hunter can actually get minutes this year?
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I think it's you
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with the shortened season we'll need all the depth we can get.
Who starts when Bison needs a rest?
Jeffries?
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Jeffries, Jordan or Jorts
I think Hunter is unlikely to even be on the roster at the start of the season
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Jorts is like 6'8 and is lucky to be in the nba, much as I love the dude
Jordan is unproven
Jeffries hands are made of stone.
I would guess Pringles will have Jeffries start, unfortunately. I would probably start Jerome Jordan. But none of these 3 names should ever play 20 minutes or more in a game so it’d be nice to have an extra big body around to grab some minutes when guys need to sit or in case of injury or in case any of our unprovens can’t cut it.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Jorts is 6'10
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but yeah we have 3 guys aside from Hunter than can get minutes at Centre that should and will get opportunities before Hunter
I would think they would be looking to replace both those camp fodder guys on the squad at the moment
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Jorts is not 6'10
He’s listed as such, but he’s clearly shorter
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..........i'm not sure what that is based on but whatever you say.
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and he is listed as a centre on Knicks.com and NBA.com
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Based on watching the practice. He was closer to landry's height than Bison's
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
if you can sight a 2 inch height difference from distance on television when they are all running around on the court you my friend have a very unique (and somewhat useless) skill thats for sure
even if he is 6’8 (which i think you are crazy) he is still a centre and from what I saw performed better in that position that Hunter.
lmao
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just because I am bored

This is Josh standing next to 6’9 Terrence Jones
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I 5think I don't care how tall or small he looks
What I did see is the potential to be a disruptive force on defense, which is a good starting point for a raw player. I like the kid so far
by screamedia on Dec 17, 2011 6:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agree with this
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I love Shump Shump
in fact in his honour, I’m going to start calling myself Bert Bert.
Therefore…
Bert Bert loves Shump Shump
Shump-Shump
dude’s already become one of my favorite players. I love that he responds to a dunk with " ‘preciate it" and that he’s committed to communicating on D. plus, he saw shump’s arms and he didn’t touch toney

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