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In case you missed "Knicks Training Camp Live"...

If you were at work or in class or in the sewer licking garbage this afternoon, you probably missed "Knicks Training Camp Live", MSG's live look at a Knicks practice. We got to watch the guys run drills, scrimmage, and bro out with commentary from our good ol' announcer friends (plus the new guy, Alan Hahn). I'll put some notes after the jump, but they've now put video online, so you can just see the good parts yourself. And by "good parts", I pretty much mean this:


Talking shit to Dan D'Antoni, Amar'e Stoudemire, and one of the circuit training stations? Lavishing over-the-top praise on his teammates? Speaking to himself (Shump-Shump) in, like, fourth person? I love Iman Shumpert. I just love him. Take the jump Shump for a couple other things.

Star-divide

- Clyde spent the lockout in St. Croix, as you'd expect. He "refurbished like three houses".

- The upshot from the rest of the "Mic Checks": Tyson Chandler is definitely an avid dispenser of advice. Amar'e Stoudemire is a dispenser of trite nothings like "Less mistakes!" and "We've got to work on these drills!". Landry Fields makes some corny-ass jokes.

- Mike Woodson, at least while we were watching, was the defensive coordinator. He was also the samwich meat while demonstrating...something on defense:

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- Instead of gym shorts, Amar'e wore sweatpants rolled all the way up to his thighs so he could pay attention to "aligning" his quadriceps. I have no idea what that means but I believe him.

- I'd forgotten that Greg Brittenham is no longer the strength and conditioning coach. I can't figure out who they were talking about, but the announcers said that the new guy is a Marine.

- During a film session, Toney Douglas was seen wearing the biggest wrap I've ever seen on his right shoulder and arm. He looked kinda like Mega Man.

- Also in the film session, Woodson made a big stink about ball pressure and picking up before opponents cross half court.

- Clyde, reflecting on his own training camp experience, noted that they never did "all these little mediocre drills".

- Missed dunks during an alley-oop drill: Carmelo Anthony reverse windmill, Jared Jeffries regular type.

- Tina Cervasio recounted that Melo wouldn't tell her what the focus of his offseason training was. I'm assuming he honed his ability to control and direct static electricity with his hands.

- Landry Fields's jump shot form hasn't gotten any prettier, but we heard once more that he'd been practicing corner threes. After one long-distance make in the "Mic Check" segment, Fields turned and yelled "SHAAAA!". Toney Douglas was like "what?". It was great.

- Glen Grunwald could use some help matching his shirt with his jacket.

- Jerome Jordan, to my eye, looked better at moving without the ball than he did in Vegas two summers ago. He also got manhandled by Chandler a few times, which is a good thing. I totally buy into the notion that practicing against Chandler every day could do wonders for Jordan's game.

- Without providing details, Grunwald mentioned that Landry and Shump did some performance in front of the whole team at last night's Chrismas party.

- At least in these scrimmages, Iman Shumpert was definitely a shoot-first point guard. He didn't hit many of his jumpers, but nobody really did. That's how scrimmages go. These particular scrimmages were more about the defensive sets ("scripts") than the offense, anyway.

- Mike Bibby looked pretty sharp. It's readily evident that he's the most composed half court ball-handler on the team. Shump looked a bit rushed (like I said, he often just pulled up) and Toney tended to drift to the corners and diminish his passing angles. Again, I wouldn't read too much into it.

- Melo brought the ball up a bunch, too.

- Josh Harrellson scrapped for plenty of loose balls. This pleases me.

- One interesting "Blue Team" unit: Bibby, Shump, Melo, Amar'e, and Chandler.

- Devin Green doesn't appear to be very good.

And that's all I've got! There'll be a replay on at 6 PM if you have MSG but weren't sitting on your couch at mid-day. If you do get the chance to watch, I'd definitely recommend it. There's not much to glean from the experience basketball-wise, but it's really a wonderful feeling to see these guys-- dormant for like eight months now-- actually do something on a basketball court.

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whoa, that's some good shump

thanks seth! wow. i can now go back up to read the recap.

by old 34 on Dec 16, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm.... Sideburns

I think Landry needs sideburns.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 16, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

I also think he should replace the faux hawk...

with a flat top!!!!

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

and Clyde chops

Dump dumps Oops oops.

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No flat top

unless it’s at least 6 inches tall.

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by Russ on Dec 16, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Phoenix Jones Style

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 16, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Cross (fan) posted

“Shump Shump ain’t touch you, it must have been Jerry. I looked at Shump’s arm and Shump didn’t touch you.”

I didn’t think it was possible, but my affection for the Shumpty Shump has grown.

That said, I’m not entirely sure who Jerry is. Anybody have any ideas? Maybe Seinfeld is an unsigned free-agent (and a hacker).

I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time

by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Everyone do the shumpty shump

Easy Breezy, Off the Heezy, by Weel the threel!

by Dual on Dec 16, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Missed dunks during an alley-oop drill: Carmelo Anthony reverse windmill, Jared Jeffries regular type.

classic Jared.

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

I got a good laugh just picturing him miss

by Riv34 on Dec 16, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Dump is filling a spot in my heart reserved for Poope

Dump dumps Oops oops.

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

ha

i see what you did there

by bmanley620 on Dec 16, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

XD

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Devin Green's stats when he was in the league

on SB – 10 ppg
On NBA.com 5 ppg
On yahoo 0.9 ppg

Which is it?

Andy Rautins for mayor... or at least 12th man

by Jay Jordo on Dec 16, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

Its 0.9 ppg

if you go to NBA.com you need to look at career season averages, not just the first profile page. You will see it is also 0.9 there too.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Dec 16, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i am going to the rock tomorrow for the preseason game

jkgkdfhg kj so excited!! also, shumpert is so much fun to play in 2k12.

"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro

by jbuckets on Dec 16, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

he really is

aa soon as it updated i was practicing with him, but no JORTS unless hes a reserve

by blackhova on Dec 17, 2011 1:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think the unnamed circuit coach was Herb Williams

He needed to put on that weight so he could bang with Eddy Curry.

by superturboultra on Dec 16, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I propose substituting all future jumps with Shumps. “The benching was Shumping up and down after Anthony buried a Shumpshot to give the Knicks the lead.”

by XLII on Dec 16, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Shumpshot

Awesome!

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 16, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really shumped up for the season

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by Russ on Dec 16, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This will now

be how I describe any shot he makes.

The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.

by JerzeeBalla on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I just can't wait to write

“KILL SHOT” in the game threads when Shump makes a jumper

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by WSD on Dec 16, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And he was the starting SG last year! Where’s the loyalty?

Andy Rautins for mayor... or at least 12th man

by Jay Jordo on Dec 16, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

oh you know we will

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert just blew my mind! Loved that attitude...

I’m guessing he’s starting in a month, if it takes that long, – TD would be a great sixth man blaster off the bench with a chip on his shoulder… But either way, I’m good to go with those two at the point. Just get a back up 4. Can’t wait for this thing to get going…

by Sprewell on Dec 16, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

screw it ill post the link on here too, i think it on the wrong thread

http://www.msg.com/videos/allan-houston-on-the-new-season-1216-1.79206

A couple of Dump steals and a nice breakaway dump. Also anyone else notice Stat’s new glasses, pretty cool.

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

oh man...Shump talks SHIT.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 16, 2011 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

i'm still leaning towards...

shump as our starting 2 with landry as our 6th man at the 2/3 with bibby as our backup PG.

landry will be better than shump at coming in as depth and bringing a “known” … and starting shump with our stars frees him up to play to his strengths and gamble more.

also… chris hunters is a BIG dude… jordan is long and lanky… TD looks jacked… jefferies looks… like jefferies… and i want more jorts.

shump = starks

by bucketsncents on Dec 16, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

I like the idea of this

I see Landry as a more complete offensive player and would bring more offensive punch off the bench and would be able to be a feature player on the second unit and would bring a real balance to the team in that role. It would also mean Dump would be forced to be selective with shots and improve his selection otherwise Amare’ and Melo would be all up on him.

I think its pretty clear Landry will start the season as the starter but i wouldn’t be totally surprised to see things shake out that way.

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I like what I'm hearing from Shump

He’s very talkative, trying to pump guys up. Maybe he can be a floor general… thinks

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 16, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

best quote...

“i want us to have the mentality of the old knicks team”

make it happen melo and we’ll be in contention for the next 5 years.

landry’s our battier… our horry… our glue guy who sees and fills the need…. DAMNIT LANDRY I LOVE YOU SO!

sorry

by bucketsncents on Dec 16, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

Fun fact about Devin Green:

He scored a career high 5 points against the Knicks in a 130-97 Lakers romp at MSG on 1/31/06. The Knicks leading scorer in that game was Qyntel Woods with 15 points.

Home of the Jared Jeffries Shot Tracker

by bluecheese999 on Dec 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

goddamn

and the lakers weren’t even that good that year . . .

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Dec 16, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Qyntel Woods

Wow

We’ve come a long way

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 16, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

man I really like Shump

people laughed at us but I think we got a real good player, at least he is confident

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 16, 2011 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

SHUMP SHUMPPPPPPPP

Not only does he talk to himself and everyone else, but he’s helping teammates out during drills. ABOUT DEFENSE. Plus, did you see him drop and flatten out in proper help-side fashion when he man reversed the ball? I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight I’m so excited. (Shut up, ok. Basketball was gone for a long time, Knicks defense even longer.)

by Martha on Dec 16, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

Link?

Is there a link to watch msg online?

by Flying_Saucer on Dec 16, 2011 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

I noticed that

He really got after them.

God I love that man.

He’s gonna be our hockey goon.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 16, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Shump and Landry starting would be glorious.

I’m digging the thickened, uber-athletic vibe I’m getting from Landry. And Shump seems surprisingly in command and control running the point. But then again, this is just scrimmage.

Would like to see some of that though.

by Crackback on Dec 16, 2011 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Thickened

pause

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 16, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Shump Shot!

Knicks basketball baby! So excited.

DWTDD Presses the steal button!

Did this dude just did this?

by Rubbercons on Dec 16, 2011 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

So excited to watch the game tomorrow

A REAL GAME, guys!

Also, is it me, or does Jorts look much smaller than 6’ 10". Maybe like 6’ 8" or something like that

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by WSD on Dec 16, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Jorts looks a little taller than Melo

But definitely shorter than Amar’e. Not quite center-sized, but seems like he’s got a nice soft touch on his shot.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, he is definitely not a center lol

compare him to tyson and it’s a joke (i’ve noticed that tyson is hugggeeee btw. oh yeah that’s what a center looks like)

i am actually starting to think that he could be a rotation player. fill in the shawne williams void

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Dec 16, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

cant wait for tommrows game

ill be there in prudential reppin the knicks . cant wait to see the newcombers in action for first time

by mpatire on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

ungroomed bastards

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Dec 16, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I just jumped in my DeLorean and checked out tomorrows game and took a quick snap for you guys

Dump.

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 16, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

I like how there’s a dude in the crowd beneath Shump’s left leg, clapping his hands, but not looking at the play. He’s probably calling for popcorn

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by WSD on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He should'a had his popcorn ready

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's you

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

with the shortened season we'll need all the depth we can get.

Who starts when Bison needs a rest?

Jeffries?

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 17, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeffries, Jordan or Jorts

I think Hunter is unlikely to even be on the roster at the start of the season

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Jorts is like 6'8 and is lucky to be in the nba, much as I love the dude

Jordan is unproven

Jeffries hands are made of stone.

I would guess Pringles will have Jeffries start, unfortunately. I would probably start Jerome Jordan. But none of these 3 names should ever play 20 minutes or more in a game so it’d be nice to have an extra big body around to grab some minutes when guys need to sit or in case of injury or in case any of our unprovens can’t cut it.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 17, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Jorts is 6'10

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 4:18 AM EST up reply actions  

but yeah we have 3 guys aside from Hunter than can get minutes at Centre that should and will get opportunities before Hunter

I would think they would be looking to replace both those camp fodder guys on the squad at the moment

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Jorts is not 6'10

He’s listed as such, but he’s clearly shorter

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 17, 2011 4:28 AM EST up reply actions  

..........i'm not sure what that is based on but whatever you say.

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 4:46 AM EST up reply actions  

and he is listed as a centre on Knicks.com and NBA.com

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 4:48 AM EST up reply actions  

if you can sight a 2 inch height difference from distance on television when they are all running around on the court you my friend have a very unique (and somewhat useless) skill thats for sure

even if he is 6’8 (which i think you are crazy) he is still a centre and from what I saw performed better in that position that Hunter.

lmao

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 5:58 AM EST up reply actions  

just because I am bored

This is Josh standing next to 6’9 Terrence Jones

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I 5think I don't care how tall or small he looks

What I did see is the potential to be a disruptive force on defense, which is a good starting point for a raw player. I like the kid so far

by screamedia on Dec 17, 2011 6:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agree with this

"I’m gonna climb up you today, Stat! No layups!" - Dump

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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I love Shump Shump

in fact in his honour, I’m going to start calling myself Bert Bert.

Therefore…

Bert Bert loves Shump Shump

by Bertilad on Dec 17, 2011 6:27 AM EST reply actions  

Shump-Shump

dude’s already become one of my favorite players. I love that he responds to a dunk with " ‘preciate it" and that he’s committed to communicating on D. plus, he saw shump’s arms and he didn’t touch toney

by chris-9999 on Dec 18, 2011 2:19 AM EST reply actions  

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