Preseason: Knicks 92, Nets 83
by Seth on Dec 17, 2011 6:07 PM EST
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PrintWell, that didn't feel quite like basketball, but it felt a hell of a lot more like basketball than anything we've experienced in the last eight months or so. I'm not going to give this quite the full recap treatment because I'm hungry and it was a preseason game, but take the jump for some notes on moments and players of note.
- Clyde used two rhymes in the pre-game that I don't think I've ever heard from him: "No more stress, no more mess" (in reference to Carmelo Anthony's second season) and "rejuvenating and reverberating".
- Your undisputed player of the game: Renaldo Balkman. Humpty was excellent to the point of receiving "M-V-P!" chants in the fourth quarter. His 20 points led the whole game, and came primarily off really nice off-ball cuts to the rim and easy put-backs (4 o-bounds). I hadn't really thought of Humpty as a candidate for the regular rotation, but if he's ready to give this much energy on a consistent basis, he's a perfectly reasonable frontcourt option. He was much more useful on offense than, say, Jared Jeffries.
- Jeffries had some splendid defensive possessions, though: a couple drawn charges, some nice shot contests, and a few turnovers forced simply with active feet-shufflin'. That offense, though. Not good. He threw some hideous passes and got blocked by something called "Dennis Horner".
- Iman Shumpert looked much more comfortable handling the ball in halfcourt sets than Toney Douglas did. Neither made many great passes, (Shump did have one gorgeous feed to a cutting Balkman) but Shump at least kept his head up, maintained his dribble, and tried to penetrate some. Toney ended up with his back to the action far too often. The point guardiest play were all made by Carmelo Anthony, who made two pants-dropping look-away feeds to Balkman cutting to the rim (Humpty really did a lot of cutting!).
- (Douglas did run one excellent dribble-handoff-to-pick-and-roll play with Jorts. More on Jorts later).
- Other things we saw from Shumpert: Plenty of pull-up jumpers, including a few in transition; few jumpers (including a three) off the catch; a strip of Deron Williams and coast-to-coast lay-in (because off a bad take-off for which he just apologized); a few gorgeous splits of multiple defenders, including one that ended in a beautiful lefty finger roll. All told, Shump looked very active on defense, very confident on offense, and generally like an NBA player. I'd really like to watch him run more with the first unit (note that this is not a suggestion that he should replace Douglas or Landry Fields already) to see if his shot selection improves and he makes some ballsier passes. Overall, splendid first outing for Imana Shumpalot.
- One more thing about Shump: He's got such a distinctive dribble. He gets really low and it's almost like his arms are too long to keep the ball close without bending his elbows. Lots of side-to-side motion.
- Fields had his moments on defense and hit a couple jumpers, but did not look sharp. He got shook by Anthony Morrow quite a few times and didn't look even remotely improved off the dribble. So far, not so good, but let's give him some more time to get comfortable.
- On offense, Tyson Chandler set a lot of high screens and made some great cuts to find himself open or mismatched near the rim a number of times, but, again, Douglas was often too preoccupied with his own feet to find the big guy (Melo, for the record, ran a perfect pick-and-roll with Chandler). On defense, Chandler made some outstanding contests against Brook Lopez and made his presence felt a few times as a helpin' friend. He also sets some nasty-ass picks.
- Both Melo and Amar'e Stoudemire missed a lot of easy jumpers, but their spacing and movement off the ball was solid and more creative than anything we saw last season. There were lots of nice off-ball screens, most of which went undetected by whoever was handling the ball (Douglas). We saw a few instances of the "elbow" play with Chandler and Melo doing dribble hand-off things on the eponymous elbows and Stoudemire floating down near the rim. With repetition, that play could become deadly. Soooooo many options.
- Josh Harrellson looked pretty great! He came in and immediately drilled a three-pointer from the top of the arc (followed by the Blazer-esque three monocle celebration!), which we all totally saw coming. He also hit a very nice baseline jumper and just wrassled his way to a couple rebounds. I like Jorts, I think he's a rotation player, and I like him again.
- Mike Bibby looked perfectly adequate on offense and perfectly horrendous on defense. Mike Bibby stuff.
- Incidentally, Shump and Bibby entered the game as a tandem a few times. They sort of traded off ball-handling duties.
- Marshon Brooks insisted that his jersey number be the same as his age, but they wouldn't let him take 8 1/2, so he rounded up.
- "Impractical Jokers" on Tru TV looks like it might be the worst crime human beings have ever committed.
- Clyde, discussing available free agents, with the line of the night: "What's happening with that Kardashian guy?".
- Kerry Kittles, sitting courtside, made the best "What can I say? Being a dad is nuts!" face of all time:
- The Knicks got badly out-rebounded. It's preseason, but I'd rather that not be the case. At least they did well on the offensive glass, I suppose.
All told, it was a happy first preseason game. Plenty of Shumping, unprecedented levels of Humptiness, and some great moments from Jorts and the frontcourt stars. It's a bit scary that we're now one game away from real life basketball, but I suppose that's the case for everybody. <3
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Excellent write up as usual
I too am concerned about the point guard position, its possible that DWTDD was just nervous going in to the season with such an important role but just doesn’t seem to be a natural playmaker and he just isn’t a threat off the dribble and finishing at the rim which makes him very one dimensional.
From what i hear we are aggressively going after Baron so if his injury isn’t as bad as his agent says he can take this offence to another level.
Love Melo’s game being a playmaker and we all know he is a stone cold killer putting the ball in the hole, Stat seemed a little tentative but seems mainly to do with working himself in to it over the course of preseason and I have no worries about Stat.
Defensively i loved the effort, we had active hands an created a lot of turnovers there is still a long way to go but you can clearly see that they are committed on that end of the court.
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i always thought he could be an Oakley type when we drafted him
or at least an Anthony Bonner type, give us a hard fought 20 minutes per. if he can play with his head in the game, i think he could be a valuable bench baller.
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Not to mention soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much more useful than Jeffries
Then again, I always knew that, but I’m pretty sure Jeffries has pictures of D’antoni fellating a dolphin or something
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by rxmeister on Dec 17, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The problem is that he generally shits his pants every time the ball is passed to him
it’s not a problem when he receives it as he’s cutting and he’s 2 feet from the rim with no one in the way, but otherwise…
I was at the game
the write-up is pretty spot-on but I just wanna emphasize how good Melo looked with the ball. He usually passed to the open man, and made the right basketball play. If D’Antoni was actually serious about him playing point forward I think it would work great. Shump looked awesome, couple rookie mistakes but he can definitely ball
i hope so
he looked good, and this was his first game with a realy short pre-season.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see it in a few weeks honestly. As much as it’ll come down to Shump continuing to show what he’s shown while improving, it’ll come to what kind of mix D’Antoni wants. Fields has the advantage of not needing much attention and touches offensively. Shump replacing TD keeps a good perimeter defender on the floor. So I could see them going that route even if Shump ‘should’ be the starter based on overall game.
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Jeffries scored 1 point today on 1-2 Free Throw shooting
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Out of like 59 awesome things. Please don’t ever stop trackin and crackin on our man JJ.
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Jared Jeffries couldn't score 20 points if you locked him alone in a gym overnight.He now officially
has been passed the torch.
Actually, Jeffries has scored 20+ points in a game twice in his career
including one time with the Knicks in 2008
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by bluecheese999 on Dec 17, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully PG by committee can work for this team.
I’m a little confused as to why Landry felt the need to put on so much weight though. I never thought he had a problem getting overpowered by guys last season.
Shump just stole somebody's spot. He'll be starting right off the bat.
He’ll either start alongside Toney to help him with ballhandling and to help start the break; or he’ll start in place of Toney bc DWTDD is just not an NBA pg.
Either way, Shump is starting.
by Crackback on Dec 17, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
well
it’s been one preseason game. i love shump too, put lets not make any decisions yet.
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I just carved a Shumpert jersey out of marble, do you think it’s too late to remove the Captain’s “C”?
by superturboultra on Dec 17, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Lets not get carried away. Its a preseason game. No training camp. Guys are rusty, lack chemistry. Toney's shot was off too. This suggests rust more than anything
That said Toney stil managed 5 assists in 29 minutes, only 2 TOs and made some nifty bounces passes. Its really too early man. He’ll grow more comfortable playing more games. Give him a chance. The potential is there.
Exactly.
Guys miss shots. The only important thing for today is whether people looked up to the challenge ahead. TD looked competent, but not comfortable. I agree with Seth — Shump had the most impressive outing of the backcourt players. TD will have to work harder still to make the transition from combo guard to point.
Funny thing about Toney
He doesn’t look that comfortable or confident, but he ends up with decent stats
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what's his +/-?
Because if he can fill up the stat sheet but doesn’t help the team win, his stats mean bupkis.
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by Taylor Made on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
either way
it was one preseason game after a reduced training camp. Basically useless.
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Presence matters.
TD has none. He can’t the offense organized. He can’t break down a defense. He struggles to simply handle the rock.
Shumpert has already shown he more capable than TD in doing all these things.
by Crackback on Dec 17, 2011 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I Shumpert as a scorer and defender off the bench.
I think it makes good use of his talents, protects us if and when we have to use bibby, and protects him from getting too much pressure thrown on him.
I think Baron’s coming anyway, so I’m fine with TD playing for a month. If anything it’ll prove once and for all what we can expect from his career. Will he improve and show flashes of maturing into a true PG, if so great, if not Baron can come in and TD can go back to playing the jason terry role.
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by Putnan Prince on Dec 18, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Toney looked damn good when starting in Burps reg season abesence last year
plus he holds the knicks record for 3s in a game and has shown many great things.
one preseason game makes nothing.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
Not gonna lie though, from reports from the gamethread it didn't look like anyone was blown away by any improvement in TD's court vision.
Kind worrying. Is this really “it is what it is”? I got love for my Douglas, but hard work and heart can only take you so far if you can’t keep your head up while working around the perimeter. Gonna have to take a look for myself at midnight.
Still got faith in you TD. DWTDD.
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I'm not gonaa sugarcoat it
He looked bad. Iman Shumpert showed more natural poise, confidence and decisiveness with the ball in his hands in his first pro game than Douglas has at any time running the point. If you ask me.
I wouldn't go that far.
But it’s certainly close. In this city, it’ll only take two games for D’Antoni to take heat about why he isn’t starting Shumpert.
I think he lacks the awareness to get the ball to the right people on time
He also isn’t a threat to penetrate and finish at the rim or draw a player and make a play for someone else, DWTDD should be allowed to DWTDD which is spot up and run off screens.
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by Ozraider on Dec 17, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
TDougals main issue is stopping his dribble. Its like he’ll take 4-5 steps past halfcourt and then stop his dribble and THEN look to pass it. That spells trouble if you’re playing against any decent defensive team.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
You could tell yesterday D-Will was picking up on it
He’d start pressuring Douglas right after he got past half court. If Douglas was going against a really good defensive PG like Rondo or CP3, we’d be in trouble
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That's an important point
Let’s not forget that he’s not going to be defended by D-Will every night.
Billups would do the same thing as well. I can’t imagine this is something that MDA is teaching, is it? Or is it coming up the floor and saying, “oh shit, what now?” and just panicking?
by superturboultra on Dec 18, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
he needs to talk to clyde
Clyde talks about this issue every broadcast he does and TD is handling the ball but either the two of them don’t talk or TD don’t listen because Clyde really does mention this all. the. time.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 18, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Shumpert's shown shit.
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we might be better off with shump not starting, actually
shump-shump can play multiple positions and can create his own shot sometimes, so he would be a really good fit on the second unit.
with that said, i wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up starting by the end of the season – he might just have too much talent to ignore.
by latrell chokewell on Dec 17, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
completely agree
shump impressed me, but we have very little scoring/ people to create offence off the bench. seems to me that is a very well suited role for him.
def need baron davis though – then we can use shump and DWTDD as a great second unit. also with baron we will probably play a bit more up-tempo and there will be better ball movement – watch landry come back to life…
Shump was watching Shump's game
It was tight.
I’d love to see Landry come back to life, but I think what we saw from him in his rookie season might be what there is. He’s an opportunistic scorer, so he needs to be off the ball. So does Toney. Iman, on the other hand, can play with it. I’d rather see TDDWTDD when he’s not taking possessions away from Melo and STAT.
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He and Murphy (Lakers) are off the table.
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by superturboultra on Dec 17, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope JJordan is ready to go Wednesday
I know it’s just preseason but it’d obviously interesting to see what he’s got
I'm Bart Scot'ing until midnight. Goddamn I can't believe I'm staying home tonight just to catch the replay.
seriously can’t wait to see Shumpty dropping funk and Humpty dropping dunks
Fish Fingers give me a break.
from nypost.com
Mike D’Antoni finally addressed the Baron Davis issue now that he’s an unrestricted free agent after clearing waivers last night, saying he’s definitely worth investigating to find how how healthy he is. Sources say the Knicks are all in if his disk issue is not major. They’d have the $1.4M veteran’s exception to offer as they’d prefer to use the $2.5M exception on Travis Outlaw.
The Post reported today a source believes Davis could be on the court as soon as four to six weeks and that agent Todd Ramasar’s 8—to-10 week prognosis may have been exaggerated. There’s speculation Ramasar was looking to scare off the bidders of teams under the salary cap during the new amnesty waiver process.
“It’s worth the risk of exploring it. I’m sure Baron’s going to do everything, and the medical staff will look and see if it’s and come up with a conclusion,‘’ D’Antoni said before the Knicks-Nets 2 p.m. preseason battle. "He’s an interesting player, and I’m sure a lot of teams will be doing the same thing, evaluating whether, in a shortened season, whether that’s worth it or not. He’s a very good basketball player.‘’
The Lakers figure to be the Knicks’ toughest competition
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by superturboultra on Dec 18, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
If he did improve he would go a long way into making us forget about Poope
I really hate ESPN
If it turns out to not be a blip on the radar
I’d take those 4 O-Boards and layins over the corner poop every time
We got guys that can hit the 3’s on 2nd team, this would be a pleasant new wrinkle. But I still have to be skeptical…what do you guys think, mirage a taste of things to come?
if im correct, my eyes are stil dilate from basketball,
Balkman hit a 3!!!
by blackhova on Dec 18, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He also almost missed the rim from one
And on a couple lay-ins he was DWJJD
by superturboultra on Dec 18, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give this to Balkman, it's been so long since I've seen him do anything I didn't even know he could move
He looked sharp
His atheticism was never in question
It was his ability to play a team game without harming it on both ends (lack of skill on offense, risky plays on defense)
by superturboultra on Dec 18, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I have to say ....
I saw some of the same problems from last year, but I also saw a lot of the stuff we were complaining about every single game last year either not there, or clearly something their working on.
For example …. Offensive rebounds. Already much improved. It killed me last year how we’d take a shot and all 5 guys would immediately start running back. There was a little of that, but we definitely fought more between Jorts and Tyson Chandler and Balkman. Tyson Chandler had a putback and I nearly jizzed my pants because that’s exactly what we were missing last year. Jorts got one and he got fouled as he was putting it back up. He missed the foul shots, but that’s what happens when you get offensive rebounds! You get fouled. And Landry may not have been at his landriest offensively, but he seemed to get his groove back in terms of rebounds. We got out rebounded overall, but I expect our rebounding to improve as we go along. There were also a lot of weird bounces in the game. I just really appreciate the effort, especially on the offensive end.
Amar’e took a charge! Did he take one all last year? And here he took one right at the start of preseason! It just shows a greater commitment to defense. Everyone seems in on this. Speaking of which …
Talking to each other! On defense!
Ball movement!
Monster picks!
The things that seem to have carried over are settling for too many jump shots and we had a little bit of the “hey everybody let’s just stand around” offense. But there was more movement in general than last year (especially Balkman), so hopefully that’ll improve as the year goes on. Also not enough toughness around the rim on the defensive end (although it was greatly improves), I expect this to improve throughout the year too.
Other problems?
Amar’e’s offense wasn’t great, but that’s not a worry. Rusty shooting mostly, needing better PG play from Toney to be a force down low. So this is not a concern in the least.
Toney was problematic to say the least, but it’s the first preseason game. He didn’t seem comfortable so I’m sure that jitters had something to do with it. I’m more than happy to give him some time to prove himself/develop, but if we’re a month in and he’s still stopping his dribble too early, too timid in terms of decision making, and missing opportunities then it’s Baron time. He should probably lean harder on Melo to run the offense in future games because he was pretty much fantastic in that role. We know he’ll have Melo and Bibby in his ear guiding him to improve, so I still have plenty of hope for him.
Landry should not be in a position of creating. He’s been taking Ex-Lax all offseason working on his pooping, he should poop in the corner more. Also, cut to the basket dude. You don’t have to facilitate anything. Just do what balkman did this game and we’ll all love you forever and ever. He alternatively looked frisky and confused on defense, more frisky please. I think he can be a quality defender.
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by DangerZone on Dec 17, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wow, way too long. Sorry. I'm just really excited and looking forward to this season so bad I think I just pooed a little
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all good
I liked all that knicksy stuff. also Land man….thats what I’m callikne Lcandry now…he used to be able to cut so so so good, like in kindegarten wen we got those special scissors. It’ll come back
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 17, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was into it!
Nothing wrong with digging deep.
And YES, monster picks! I forgot what those were like, as opposed to Amare’s where he’s already off to the basket by the time the pick would have happened (not that there’s anything wrong with Amare’s p&r style, he’s just FAST, while Tyson is tough – it’s a good mix)
by superturboultra on Dec 18, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think that out-rebounded-ness
is kind of by-product of what D’antoni likes to emphasize, but no doubt his system works better with a guy on the floor who’s actually a talented rebounder.
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davis and stevenson we should be real good not sold on douglas or fields
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It’ll be even easier! The only reason I didn’t go today was because I didn’t want to commute to NJ. If they were in BK I woulda been there with bells on.
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why cant you guys let the Nets fans be happy
we’re happy, I’m drunk…life is good for the moment. Let them enjoy the warm tingly embrace of hope and listen to the virgin cries of a future not yet ripe. In time they’ll come to know agony as all teams do, as we have…pain we shant wish on any other for it is too cruel.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 17, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm just looking forward to being able to afford to go to an nba game
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I live like 5 blocks from the New arena.
No way I’ll be cheering for the Nets when I go there (unless they’re playing the Heat or the Celtics!)
I laughed for like five minutes when Clyde called kris Humphries "the kardashian guy"
And as a professional Melo homer, I was almost sexually aroused by his passing and pick and roll play
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
Um, emphasis on "almost"
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
I'm still pitching a tent from his no look pass to Balkman
I think I need to see a doctor
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
i read this too fast
and thought you said “Melo homo”. sorry about that.
not that there’s nothing wrong with it.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
And the sooner baron comes around the better
If we can get a real pg like him, we’ll be golden, but it’s kind if tough imagining toney handling that role all year
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Funny how quickly after he cleared waivers his injury became less severe
We’ve gone from 8 to 10 week to 4 to 6 weeks
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
the Time Warner/MSG stuff
is really giving me a lot of anxiety. As if the lockout wasn’t enough. When Breen and Clyde are doing plugs for it, not a good sign. Hopefully it will blow over.
by total hermination on Dec 17, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Unless you have no choice, I don’t see how anyone has cable over satellite or FIOS. The picture is so much clearer, and they never seem to have a dispute with the networks.
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I was gonna get it but they didnt have MSG wen I was lookin into it
took em forever and now I’m like eh…
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 17, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
MSG HD is available through FIOS now just in case you didn't know.
It was the only thing I didn’t like about FIOS, and now I wish it was available to me. If you can get it, go get it for real.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I live in a complex that has one of those "Everyone who lives here is LOCKED IN for some reason" deals.
The house I lived in before I had FIOS and it was effing glorious. I didn’t even know that TWC had a dispute with MSG before since I was living it up with Verizon. Now……now I’m kind of getting pissed off at America.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I have Time Warner, so I'm terrified.
I’m really not sure if I have some sort of fucking “contract” with Time Warner, though. Otherwise, I’m dumping it for fios for this very reason.
the internet connection is also HELLA better
omg Amare is so much more active with the help defense now that there’s an actual C behind him
Fish Fingers give me a break.
The TWC dispute is fake
See Dolan wants to sell a slumping cablevision to TWC but is demanding a crazy share price. So he’s starting this dispute where he’s asking TWC to pay DOUBLE what it paid last year to carry msg. The ticker etc trying to blame TWC is just more pressure. If TWC has customers complaining and dropped knock games Dolan figures TWC will just say fine and buy cablevision at an extorted share price to resolve all its problems
Typical Dolan
by nynobis on Dec 18, 2011 4:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not true
I have Dish, and they have been in dispute with MSG and SNY for like two years. No Knicks, no Mets (though this is something of a blessing), no Red Bulls, no Devils, no St. John’s…
There are always disputes
But they usually involve sny or msg asking for a slight raise. Here msg is demanding $4 per subscriber – instead of $2 last year – from TWC, its possible future buyer. I trust msgs own reporting on the situation this year about asuch as I trust baron Davis injury reports
by nynobis on Dec 18, 2011 7:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
shump
i like the way shump played,he has lots of confidence but i think he settles for too many jump sots along with the rest of the team
hustle and hustle with muscle
Holy Shit check out what's going through Meta World Peace's mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZrVRU5G2dg&feature=player_embedded
LMFAO
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BALKMAN FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
he has nothing left to prove
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 17, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions
If I were him i would seriously consider retirement
you know, go out on top.
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I feel you
we should retire his jersey.
Balkman Forever!!!
Fuck Jordan!!! Team Balkman! Next Game…Renaldo for 63!
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 17, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't watch a whole lot of this
But I really hope the Knicks pick up another PG and some more bench help
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Bout to see the replay.
Hope its a good time.
The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.
Anyone watching Golden State and Sac
The warriors look good and Jimmer looks for real
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Ive been
watching ball all night, seems like every team has 12-27 serviceable point guards. Or is it just me?
You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you
pretty much lmao
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I really don't like Tyreke Evans
I like the talent on the T-Wolves as well Derrick Williams looks like he is going to be a beast and K-Love was on fire
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Jordan Hill had 17 points 13 boards tonight nice
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Anyone wanna do an online association on 2k12?
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions
Are they fun? I really wanna do one
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 18, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yeah replay crew wussup.
Wow Chandler looks good in blue & orange
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I don't care that everyone already saw this game. I'mma use this as my own personal game thread.
And Bibby just might not be so bad for us. He’s a steadying influence. I like him and Shump together. Harrelson looks like he’s bought in completely, too. All the team’s talk about chemiHOLY SHIT THERE WAS JORT’S THREE WOW THAT WAS FROM CHERRY HILL.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
sorry but that was really far from the line
kinda broke my train of thought
Fish Fingers give me a break.
Harrelson either has this "Aw shucks" look or "WHOA" look on his face at all times. Regardless of what he does there are only two options.
His face is a binary code. I love our rookies.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I really like that Harrelson was the first one there after Iman's steal and subsequent layup. Don't assume, rook. Way to be.
I like that the whole team seems to have that “get after it” mindset. Somehow I can’t picture Roger Mason Jr or Billups giving a shit every possession.
Maybe I should just stop posting alone.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
For what it's worth I'm enjoying your glee
It’s like reliving the game through someone else’s eyes
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I'm so full of glee and Johnny while finally watching some Knicks right now you don't even know
I’m about to change my name to Lea Michele
Fish Fingers give me a break.
shouldn't you be full of glee and ashton then?
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Tyson Chandler is one of those underrated pickups that affect the entire team's chemistry/makeup. He's about to pay more dividends than GE.
AIight my bad I’ll stop posting.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I have yet to see one somehow..
assuming 3rd quarter will give me that pleasure
Fish Fingers give me a break.
his picks are hilarious
there were like two times where his man hit the deck because of them
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
Yeah Chandler! Keep gettin after it! Fuck that Lopez!
It’s okay. You can ruin him don’t worry. There’s another one!
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I hope Landry doesn't get "Middle Child Syndrome" and feel like Knick fans have moved onto the new hotness with Iman. We love him, but we still got you Modell's.
Just play your game, Landry. The fans will love you as long as you keep doing you.
And also learn to dribble drive so it’s not a horror movie if you play without a true PG.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I think the world is ending
Balkman led the team in scoring (and even HIT A THREE) and Brook Lopez had a whopping eleven rebounds, surely the most he’s had in a long time. Guys, 2012 is approaching.
Oh, and I really hope Imana Shumpalot catches on because it’s amazing.
Firstly, beautifully written as always. Not bad at all for the first game of the preseason and with such short time to train, and only one week away from regular season . I thought my eyes were playing tricks with me when I saw what Balkman did. Either he has improved this much or he just had a good game. I have noticed him shooting 3 pointers in practice so maybe he has worked on his game and can be useful. There is something special about MDA and how he can bring the best out of a player. He has a history of turning players into scorers so maybe he can make things happen for Balk also. It was nice game overall with just a little rusty play but that can be expected. Many players from all the games today were looking somewhat rusty but good other than that. I loved seeing Stat and Melo connect and the ball movement was nice. seeing Melo hoop up Tyson was breathtaking.
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Hearing Baron Davis to the Knicks is a done deal. Should be announced Monday. Very good fit for the Knicks. Right guy at the right time..
3 hours ago
TYBG
LIKE VERY MUCH!
I would take him even if he was out as long as originally said but will be interesting to so how long until he gets on the court.
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Seriously... that would be so good.
Baron would set this whole thing free. But hows his D?
by Crackback on Dec 18, 2011 7:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But there aren't many really good defensive PGs
I’d say Baron’s kinda middle of the road
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TD never dribbles with his head up
Always misses the cutter, and picks up his dribble at half court…honestly Shumpert looked like an NBA pg…if he can start at the 1 in a couple of weeks, imagine all the match up problems this teams length would cause
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by zlander on Dec 18, 2011 4:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
"LET'S GET IT ON"...............................................
Just to watch the first (preseason) game, was great. Just to see Carmelo starting his second season was great, Iman Shumpert is a prefect rookie start, glad we have Chandler on D, and Stoudemire is just bad ass.
Just glad to have some b-ball on TV.
Imana Shumpalot
i definitely Shumped a lot yesterday
by blackhova on Dec 18, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
does it start at 11 or 12?
at msg itself, not the tv program
Scrimmage recap
Melo jumpers wet
Stat shouldn’t take 3s
Chandler so tall
Stat and shump so cut
Green whiffs on several 3s
Douglas wearing some band – for his shoulder?
Fields a mixed bag
Stat Jj matchup awesome prep for both
TD shump battling like real rivalry
Shump bdoor very active
After
Jorts playing w kids
Amare swarmed
by nynobis on Dec 18, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Posey on the menu
alanhahn Alan Hahn
Yes, can confirm Knicks called about Posey. Boston also interested. RT @SB_Nick: @alanhahn have knicks atleast contacted james posey yet?
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I’m guessing Boston has the inside track, as Posey played there before.
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and the fact that green is gone for the year.
they will spend on posey. Getting burn+More money= signing.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
As we learned a few days ago
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Felt so good to watch bball again, even if it is pre-season bball.
I already put my notes on the game in the game thread, and I’m too lazy to point them all out again… but one that’s kinda consistent with what you wrote Seth…
All 3 of our PGs (Douglas, Bibby and Shump) played like SGs. Douglas had one nice pass to Chandler but it wasn’t that nice because Tyson got blocked at the rim. He looked the same as last year and I’ll give him a pass because he’s been injured… but I still don’t think he’s a PG. Bibby seemed comfortable playing off screens and hitting jumpers. Shump did have a good game but he wasn’t looking to pass much (which is good when you have his skill). This is why Baron would be perfect for this team. Give him like 28 mpg when he gets healthy and have Douglas only play like 20 minutes off the bench, keep Shump at 6th man with over 20 mpg and this team would be much improved.
OH BOY....THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN!!!!!!!! THE BOYS BACK ARE IN TOOOOOWWWWN THE BOYS ARE IN TOWN
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Baron Davis has committed to sign with the New York Knicks, according to sources close to the situation.
The deal could be formally completed as soon as Sunday, sources said.
Davis cleared waivers Friday after he was released through the amnesty clause in the new labor agreement by the Cleveland Cavaliers.
got blocked by something called "Dennis Horner"
And the Kerry Kittles line… man oh man, I missed Seth’s comedic stylings on the recaps. They have a certain inimitable rhythm. One of the best things about this blog.
YAY BAXETBALL
kerry kittles killin it
by Mrs. Shaquanta D. Edwards on Dec 18, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions
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