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Steve Novak is almost a Knick now, too.

Woj reports:

Novak, a 6-foot-11 forward, does have to pass through waivers unclaimed. The Knicks would guarantee Novak a league minimum contract for the 2011-12 season.

Brought into San Antonio Spurs camp late last week, the Spurs released Novak and placed him on waivers Monday night.

Now, are we to assume that Novak will clear waivers? What of this tweet, which has since been deleted?

On his twitter account, Novak thanked the Spurs organization, and tweeted: "Next stop…NY"

It seems plausible that Novak and the Knicks could both have word that nobody intends to bid, but you never know (which is probably why Novak untwat his tweet). If this does come to pass, it gives us fourteen Knicks, (plus Chris Hunter and Devin Green, who could well be candidates for the final spot) and, I think, a better fourteen than the twelve (+CH&DG) they carried last week. Novak, one hopes, might occupy the shadow of Shawne Williams with...something from the corners and hopefully a bit of defense. But let's see if he actually clears waivers. (If somebody wants to bone the Knicks, this would be an excellent opportunity. If his name was Steve Williams, the Nets would already be on the phone with him.)

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Whatever. This is the biggest news of the night;

https://twitter.com/#!/iRepShawneWill3/status/148976811085266945

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by Chairman Meow on Dec 19, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

his account is protected

what does it say?

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by stingy d on Dec 19, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

“@R_Balkman32 might change my twitter feed to @iRepBalkman32”

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by Chairman Meow on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yyyYES

Good plan.

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by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Patrick Ewing Jr

Kinda miss him barely missing the roster every year. Where’s he at?

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by jayvb on Dec 19, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

i believe he was cut

so the correct answer is “on patrick ewing sr.’s couch”

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Dec 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i bet he is playing

or will play somewhere.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Dec 20, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how he's feeling then. He can be on any team he wants.....

in NBA2K12. :-)

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

My great grandfather held the NJ record for consecutive free throws made in the 20s!

I have his diary from back then. It’s insane how much he practiced. Like everyday after work, he went down to the Y.

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by Chairman Meow on Dec 19, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s cool!

Andy Rautins for mayor... or at least 12th man

by Jay Jordo on Dec 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

well

i guess we aren’t waiting for china…at least this guy can hit 3’s

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by rexthejet on Dec 19, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

not necessarily

this will be a vet’s min contract so we’ll stil have the $2.5 mil space

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the 2.5

WAS the vet’s min

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Vet's Min is 1.4 mil

The 2.5mil is the Room Exception.

by jlaw on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The 2.5 is the mini-MLE

The 1.4ish is the vet’s min

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by Russ on Dec 20, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yi Jianlian

Would be perfect imo for the 2.5 mil. he can play 4/5

by jramss on Dec 19, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

No! Bad! No!

Don’t make me rub your face in it

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by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

I don’t think posey is a better option. I like reggie evans better but I’m not sure if d’antoni would play him.

by jramss on Dec 19, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Posey's D

The Knicks still have no frontcourt defense on the bench besides Jeffries. Posey can fill that gap.

by sisterray24 on Dec 20, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Balkman is a good defender too

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by WSD on Dec 20, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have a chair than Yi

He’s just plain not good at basketball

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Just heard hes injured

expected to be out 8-10 weeks

by blackhova on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

who?

Novak?

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that he means Baron

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by Russ on Dec 20, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

he means novak

he make it a the joke

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Humphries?

I know he’s worth more than 2.5M but apparently nobody wants him.. He’d be a great backup PF

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by jayvb on Dec 19, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I'd love Hump

But I don’t see a scenario where we get him.

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by Chairman Meow on Dec 19, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

wishful thinking

I dont really understand why he’s not getting any offers. One of the best rebounders in the league

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by jayvb on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean that Kardashian guy?

Maybe Clyde’s remark killed his worth enough for us to afford him

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by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a stretch

But I almost wonder if teams are too worried that he’s an off-court liability, because of those shenanigans with the Kardashians.

It’s probably more likely that he and his agent are asking for more than anybody wants to offer him

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by WSD on Dec 19, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't believe this is their #1 target.

They really want someone that can poop, because this guy has pooping written all over him. .417 career 3pts shot percentage. This guy makes Q-rich look like an average 3 shooter. But that’s all he is good at. Doesn’t board well, doesn’t pass well for a SF, and looks to be bad on D too. WTF? We really want a 3 shooter that bad.

The only way I’m ok with this is 6’10’’ 3 draining/pooping-specialist, is if he drains 10pts/gm off the bench in his spot, because he brings nothing else to the table really.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't be so sure. For all we know D'antoni falls in love with this guys shooting and he find himself a 15-20min/gm role "regularly".

Option like Diogu and Powe I could have really seen us signing and then giving a 20min/gm role to because they could help us that much and because our F depth is barren right now(no pun intended).

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words,

we have jeffries, balkman, jorts, and jordan as our backup F/C depth right now, (bully is too much of a stretch, he’s a more natural 2), out of those guys, which 2 do you see D’Antoni giving a lot of minutes to regularly? I’m not sure if D’antoni used Jeffries last year because he had to or loved him, but I’m not really happy if our most used depth players at the 3/4/5 are gonna be jeffries and balkman.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey is Joel Przybilla still on the market?

If so we should pick him up instead of this guy

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by 2xtheBully on Dec 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Last I heard he was unsigned, but I have no idea how his knee injury is doing which ended his season last year.

If he’s healthy, he’d be great for C depth, but I think we wanna address F more right now.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there anything really that interests you on the market for fowards

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by 2xtheBully on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I posted it in the "who should we sign next thread".

I’d take almost 2 handfuls of options on the open market, only a few of them are ideal for us though.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

He's around

But I heard he’s taking time off to be a dad. Supposedly he’ll look to sign later in the season

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by WSD on Dec 19, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

last I heard

he was mulling retirement. Not sure if he decided against it or what.

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Relax. We still have another move to make

This is a vet’s min contract. We still have the $2.5 mil space

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. Vet's min good. If this was for the 2.5 I would of went a little nuts. I'll chill now.

But D’antoni has his pooping specialist now.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just glad to have another big body

My biggest worry for the season is injury and/or wearing Amar’e and Tyson down like Amar’e last year.

Plus if you have one elite skill then you can contribute to an NBA team and it seems he has that in 3pt shooting. Like a taller Jason Kapono or James Jones (although I like James Jones more)

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess

But it’s important to remember that that’s a debate we can have later. Essentially the way I see it, he’s not a bad weapon to have on the team, especially so cheaply that he doesn’t hurt our flexibility.

If D’antoni plays him too much, that will be a bad decision by D’antoni, but it won’t be a bad decision to have gotten him.

And if he can contribute at all on defense he’ll be nice to get 15+ minutes on days when we have to sit guys.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve Novak can't contribute at all on defense.

Not to sound blunt, but don’t get your hopes up.

by Osborn on Dec 20, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

He's still a pooping specialist for the vet's min

I think of it as a “couldn’t hurt” situation

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by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

thats the spurs shit

for years i had this problem with malik rose, and motherfuckers drove me absolutely fucking crazy!! just because a guy played for the spurs, does not mean he can help your team. or is good at anything, even!

malik rose is prime example number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5-10, and 11-20. the guy was a bad defender, a bad rebounder, couldn’t shoot, made bad passes, fumbled the ball away constantly, and was lucky enough to play for a spurs team that won a championship.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

don't give me that chair pull shit either

thats not the sign of a good defender. thats the sign of someone who can’t hang using the only trick up their sleeve.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i know what i mean, but...

i have no idea what you mean.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

oh....

sure yea.

the point i was making tho, is that fans tend to assume that just cus a guy played for a winning team, that he is a talented contributor. malik rose i actually think is worse than jeffries and davis. but, hey!

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea that too

And yes, Malik Rose was possibly the worst NBA player of all time who actually got minutes. It’s like if Jared Jeffries was also shorter and crippled.

The best way to get good value is to get a player on a bad team. And if you’re a good team, trade away your players for much more than they’re really worth just because they’re “winners.” That’s how the Spurs managed to stay good. They trade with bad teams.

by mindfeck on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Malik Rose is almost definitely not the worst player ever who actually got minutes

His career per 36 stats:
13.4 pts, 9.1 rbs, 1.8 ast
However, with the Knicks he was very, very terrible. But before that, he was actually a decent player.

by EtSuKe on Dec 20, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

drawing charges is not the same as that chair pulling stunt.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i also completely agree

note that i said i think jeffries is better than malik rose.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

if he draws 1 charge a game that's slightly better than making someone miss 1 shot

Big deal. He probably gives up multiple possessions with his poor rebounding, his poor shooting, and overrated D. Sorry but I think Balkman is better.

by mindfeck on Dec 20, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

if balkman could hedge a pick and roll

i’d agree.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

That 1 charge can take Dwight Howard or Kobe Bryant or Lebron James off the floor due to foul trouble.

I’ll take a charge over a missed shot any day, especially when you consider how poorly the Knicks rebound.

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by tanman5 on Dec 20, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

D'antoni thinks otherwise.

And just about every nhl coach disagrees with you too given the career uses of Jeffries and Balkman.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Knicks rebounding is greatly improved now

And who cares about hockey in this conversation? career uses of Jeffries and Balkman? They both didn’t play at all the past few years except on the Knicks. Jeffries only got minutes because he’s tall and he showed he can make more threes in practice. D’Antoni loves that.

by mindfeck on Dec 21, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh man

I thought we got the redhead from San Antonio instead. I just realized that that is Matt Bonner, and this guy is no Matt Bonner.

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by LatrellSprewell on Dec 19, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

He'd just have called him matt bonnet

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Clyde Pronounciation

Steve Norvack

Rhymes with ‘Attack’ … I have feeling Clyde might call him ‘Stevie’.

We are all good. I think ‘Norvacking’ will become an oft-used verb around here, as long as no one claims the guy off waivers.

Waitaminute… why don’t the Knicks claim him off waivers?

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

only teams under the cap

can claim guys off waivers

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

well...

Novak is supposed to be able to stroke the three also. I kinda find the spurs boring tho, so I haven’t seen this in person.

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 20, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve Novak can shoot the ball and that is it.

Oh, I almost forgot his best trait! He is not James Posey. I’ll take him.

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by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 20, 2011 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

so uhhh

what other free agents are left? cus we still have the 2.5 deal. someone must want that, and simultaneously fit a need.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

posey, jianlian

are both too garbagey to fit a need. altho i’m sure they’d want that money.

reggie evans could get the job done, but i don’t know if he fits a need. is it possible or team is basically completed?

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe just bump bibby down one more spot

and try nate robinson

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Is he available?

All jokes aside I’d take him over Bibby in a heartbeat

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by tanman5 on Dec 20, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

Nate Robinson isn’t very good. I mean, he’s cool, I like him, and he’s a freak of an athlete. And he can dribble and shoot and has crazy hops.

But he can’t run an offense, he doesn’t play much defense, he’s very, very undersized as a shooting guard and he tends to make dumb mistakes.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

plus, for us he is "uncoachable"

mike does not like him

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Dalembert

Stevenson
that’s about it

TYBG

by The Rooster on Dec 20, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

i would be cool with both of them

stevenson would enliven our beard repertoire.

but will they take 2.5??? my best guess is: no.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

yea stevenson

he’s got JUST enough crazy in him. which i always think is good to have in your arsenal.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

he’s the perfect crazy guy

TYBG

by The Rooster on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian Cook

He was poop before poop but I haven’t seen him play in a while and even befor that I seem to recall him being only good for hitting threes

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 20, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

whoah!

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

10 years ago, great.

When you build a time machine we can get him

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by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I'm the one who's biased

Dude is done. Even he knows it! He’s retiring.

And extra E’s pooping abilities are highly overrated on this board. Almost as much as you’re overrating current peja

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by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Side note

Those Kings teams were fuckin dope

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by WSD on Dec 20, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Seriously awesome.

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Dec 20, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

If only they didn’t get dicked out of that one game 6 against the Lakers…fuck David Stern

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by tanman5 on Dec 20, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They were insanity. Just looking at the players they had.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This is suuuuuuch a D'Antoni signing

His rebound rate is disgustingly bad for a guy who’s 6’10", but hey, he can shoot 3’s at a 42% clip!

Whatever, my desire for a real backup big has been quenched by my recently acquired case of JORTS FEVER

by Joamiq on Dec 20, 2011 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

not a bad pickup if we do

maybe he takes mins from jeffries which is always good for the offense

by mpatire on Dec 20, 2011 2:23 AM EST reply actions  

I think the offensive improvement over jeffries will be far greater than defensive decline

We can throw him in with an all defensive lineup

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by DangerZone on Dec 20, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if he's in the game

Chandler had better be in there too

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by tanman5 on Dec 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, theres no risk with the vet minimum, so why not?

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 20, 2011 3:23 AM EST reply actions  

might we be able to entice MCDYESS out of retirement? waived by spurs

he’d be perfect as an 11th/12th man. leadership, 15 foot marksman, intangibles.

one more shot at another ring. a chance to redeem himself in NYK fans hearts.

by bucketsncents on Dec 20, 2011 6:33 AM EST reply actions  

NO!

hes the kneejerk why we traded Nene to Denver.

by blackhova on Dec 20, 2011 6:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I felt bad for the guy since those injuries always suck, but it still kills me how he injured his knee in that pre-season game.

It was like the most benign injury that started a run of horrible dominos.

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Dec 20, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Domino is perfect

this is where a ton of the misery began

You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you

by Bigknickle on Dec 20, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

might we be able to entice BARKLEY out of retirement??

he’d be perfect off the end of the bench to give us depth at PF. leadership, rebounding, intangibles.

one more shot at a ring. a chance to endear himself to NYK fans.

by flossy on Dec 20, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm a novak fan

literally all he does is shoot. but he’s insanely good at it if he’s open. not sure he can have any role in the nba besides “guy who waits on the bench for the team to need someone to act as a decoy on last second threes”, but i think the knicks can afford to use a roster spot on that exact position.

by Rodger Sherman on Dec 20, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

i think the knicks can afford to use a roster spot on that exact position.

Exactly.

by Jackaroe on Dec 20, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Especially with a 1 year deal at the vets minimum

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by Russ on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

this is similar to Poope from last year anyway

a tall dude that can knock down shots. I don’t think there’s much question Novak can shoot and does it well. I think he’ll do real well off with the bench mob. Shit…I think he’s gonna get some run with the starters. If we have Baron, Marlo, Statty and Chan on the floor we’re gonna need a floor stretcher. Novak will have plenty of room to take gargantuan shats in corners.

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 20, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

and I'm gonna call him Scooba Steven

cuz he’s wet all the time

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 20, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think you're selling Shawne a little short.

He was one of the guys who actually contributed on defense last year. Novak won’t do that.

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Dec 20, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yea he really made toney douglas' full court pressure

much more vexing, because he just knew how to defend the inbound after a made basket. he was so fuckin good at it. and then, if there was like…. a duhon dribbling, they would trap him. oh man, i’m gonna miss that.

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And on the boards

Novak boards like a backup PG

by Joamiq on Dec 20, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Shawne Williams was a nobody signing

a 15th man who 99% of peoples thought was a terrible signing cuz we cut Pat Ewing Jr. And then the seasons starts and 99% of peoples look like assholes.

Novak is basically the same thing. There’s your L.

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

About Novak, I think he's a nice no risk signing; a little experience off the bench

With McD’s expected retirement, the Spurs are greatly height challenged… and they still cut Novak loose. So I don’t expect much from him

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

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by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

If we add Novak, my guess is that Chris Hunter gets cut

Looking to when Baron is healthy, who would be players 13-15? Devin Green and Jerome Jordan are probably two players who do not suit up. Who is the other?

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by Russ on Dec 20, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

If we sign Posey I think Balkman never plays unless injury

However, the schedule may force D’antoni to go ten deep especially with those 4 games in 5 day stretches.

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by Major on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

That means one more player who gets cut and one more who doesn't suit up

I can see Devin Green getting cut. Does that mean that Balkman doesn’t suit up?

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by Russ on Dec 20, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

That's reason enough to sign Posey... even if he has to use a walker to get on the court

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Jordan plays

primarily because of our lack of bigs

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Novak, Jorts and Jeffries

are probably the backup bigs now. Probably only two of them will even play. Jordan being more of a project is more likely to not be active.

by Joamiq on Dec 20, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming it's Balkman

Melo will play big minutes (barring injury, knock on wood), Fields is likely to get minutes at the 3, Shump may play there some as well, and I’m assuming Bully is still ahead of Balkman on the depth chart. There may be some nights where it’s Jorts or Novak instead, but I’d put my money on Balkman being the third inactive.

by Joamiq on Dec 20, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The newest FA flavor of the day is Al Thornton

Though I strongly suspect that is simply a squwaking head pulling that name out of some orafice.

It’s interesting that Thornton is still on the market, Denver at one point was linked to him; but I don’t know he could be had for the mini-mid.

He hasn’t become as good as a pro as I thought he would, but he’s still a starting quality forward in the league.

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Thornton can score a fuck ton of points

he’s kind of like a poor man’s Mike Beasley. I’m down for more scorers.

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 20, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Posey a lock for the Celtics?

Thornton is a great fall back option

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by Major on Dec 20, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Tuff call, graffiti on the wall says no

But Boston is handcuffed with the loss of Green, they may have no other choice but resign Posey. Unless they are convinced Posey has nothing left in the tank

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not a bad type of player to bring off the bench as a designated scoring 6th man

lightens the scoring risk whenever the big 2 are off the floor; however, it’s best to have a Dahntay Jones defensive stopper type alongside him; something NY doesn’t have

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Injury question

Will the knicks medial staff release an injury report on baron davis at some point? I imagine that within a few days there will be a new (obviously best guess) timetable for his return. Or does that stuff stay under lock and key? i can’t remember.

by Jackaroe on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

they have to do a full cavity search first

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 20, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I've actually seen a draft of the full injury report

It was written and drawn by the same artist who used to do the old courtroom sketches for SNL!!!!

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

If Thornton was actually interested, maybe the mini-mid for 1yr would be enough, I'd be hugely in favor of it

NY still needs 1 legit forward to create a 4 man rotation with Tyson, Amare & Melo; then sprinkle in some Jeffries & Novaks and such as needed.

This year’s NBA champion won’t be the best team; but likely the best prepared team; similar to the last shortened season.

Stockpiling PG, bigs and shooters will give a team the best advantage. With the shortened season and grueling schedule, you can’t waste games and you can’t sacrifice your star players by wearing them out due to thin and weak depth.

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Novak looks like

he’s trying really hard to crush that basketball but he’s no where near able to do it.

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by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

I think it's a good pickup to have Novak...

Kind of like the Great White Poope.

BTW- Anybody see those dunks that DeAndre Jordan through down against the Lakers yesterday??? Sick!!!! Chauncey ended up in a good place.

by robk on Dec 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

It's a good no risk move and maybe he brings some of the Spurs professionalism with him

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Playing devils advocate regarding Al Thornton being a selfish player

Environment vs Heredity…Food for Thought
Is Thornton a selfish player because; he’s a selfish player by nature, or because he became that type of player by playing on a trinity of dumpster fire teams (Clippers, Wizards, Warriors)
Case in point is the this week’s FA flavor of the moment; James Posey. At the start of his career he was a multi-skilled but bad attitude and selfish player. He then ended up with title contenders Miami & Boston where he was a very critical member of the teams’ success. But when he ends up with average to bad teams (Hornets & Pacers) his regresses.
Being with veteran leaders like Melo & Amare, would Thornton grow up and adapt to a title committed team effort? One way to find out.
And this is Melo’s & Amare’s time to grow up and be the leaders they say they want to be. Amare always had Nash to do the leading. Melo wanted to be the leader but always had poor integrity veterans (Camby, KMart, Iverson) and Drama Queen Coaches (Diva Karl) blocking his path.

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by the word on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

I'm 100% on boarch with Al Thorton...

I really think he would thrive under Amare and Melo like you mentioned above. Guy has all the physical tools….was an absolute monster at FSU

by Renegade11 on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

FSU?

Did he play with Toney?

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by fuhry on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Believe they did play together for one year

Toney transferred from Auburn and had to sit out a season. His first year playing was 06-07 which i believe was Al’s senior year.

by Renegade11 on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind thornton off the bench at all.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

he does a great dikembe mutombo impersonation

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by knickswin on Dec 20, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Oh man, that is awesome

I’m impressed that he was able to keep a straight face

by Joamiq on Dec 20, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

we should get some sort of low post defender

tyson is good for the softies like brook, but he’s not so good against the real low post guys . . . then again there are like four of those in the league and the only ones i can think of in the eastern conference are dwight and elton brand and carlos loozer (who sux. i’d stick amare on him just to taunt him)

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by knickswin on Dec 20, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

amar'e on boozer or brand doesn't bother me

even amar’e on zach randolph, lamarcus aldridge is ok. he’s not a bad one-on-one defender, he just struggles guarding guys bigger than he is. and he once he gets into foul toruble, he just stops playing aggressively. with chandler here, hopefully that is not as big of an issue, and with carmelo here, hopefully its not as big of problem if amar’e does indeed get into foul trouble. its all relative to each game but still, we have a great starting lineup!

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by stingy d on Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so...

when does he clear waivers?

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by Taylor Made on Dec 20, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

mhm

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

he better THAT good at hitting 3's...

otherwise, i’d rather bring in a guy who can hit 3’s (even at a slightly lesser clip) with some other skill (even fighting).

by bucketsncents on Dec 20, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Oh shit

Is that a challenge? Novak will kick your ass. Look at how he is crushing that basketball!

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by fuhry on Dec 21, 2011 6:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's see Novak 6'10 likes to hump the 3pt line

and is actually pretty good at shooting from there. Give him spikey hair and does he sound familiar.

by Robert Curre on Dec 21, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Shawne didn't have muck spike to his doo

stop hanging around Dziedzic

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by Rorschach44 on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

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