OUR TEAM'S New Found Bravado...LOVIN IT!!!
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 7:10 AM EST
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So, I've noticed lately that I have a certain pep to my step. I can't help but finger-roll my trash into trash bins, I jump through doorways practicing my reverse layups, (I'm not up to dunking yet...I know my limitations) I'm yellin', "You Dont Want None Of This!" in my best Shump Shump voice to my dog, Jelly....and this is the reserved me...But I've noticed that I'm not the only one. Seems like everyone around me is buzzing too. In fact, the city seems to be abuzz with our newly resurrected team.
Just this morning I was reading an Isola article that came out about how the Knicks are seeing themselves amongst the elite...and quite frankly, I loved it.
I'm not saying that we need to be become trash talkers and I hope that we don't, but man, I love to see confidence in our players. It lets me know that they're thinking big. If they're thinking big then they're playing hard. If they're playing hard....well, anything can happen. Can't it????
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I love it too.
When we get Dizzle and Shump incorporated, and when we gel, we’re gonna roll everybody.
by Crackback on Dec 23, 2011 8:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I like this teams swagger too
That is one thing we definitely have over Miami’s big 3 Bosh and LeBron a lot of the time seem a little unsure of themselves in my opinion where as although still chasing titles as well Melo and STAT always seem 100% confident in their abilities and Tyson is the same as well as having the confidence that winning a title gives you.
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Its refreshing...and I like that even the coach isn't dancing around it anymore
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
all the players are talking defense too
and so is d’antoni.
the compact schedule is gonna be a problem for our team. but i think the chemistry is gonna be there. might have struggles, but if we hit our stride at the right time, we could easily get to the 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs, and once that happens, anything can happen. i’m feeling good too.
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you know something is going down
when D’Antoni is talking D…..I’m a little scared and excited at the same time.
Something's in the air
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
he was talking about defense last year too
and at times they played it well, the problem was we had no center or rebounding presence to clean up. Countless times the Knicks play great defense for 24 second, only to not come up with the possession and see the other team get an easy basket.
We have a center now. A guy that knows defense and championship caliber defense at that. We don’t have Amar’e playing center anymore either. These are good things.
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Well, there's that and also...
Most of the analysts seem to agree that the Knicks are not going to be a defensive team…They just need to play well for key stretches. I think that this is similar to the way Boston plays its D…They lull people to sleep until they feel like the other team is in a stupor then they turn it on unexpectedly and proceed to secure the win…I think that’s more what we should look for with this team…the ability to not let games get out of reach and then attacking at the appropriate time
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
we need to play defense like the Suns did under Pringles
if you let up an easy basket, make sure you get an easy basket yourself.
Pringles has never had a guy like Chandler either. The closest thing he’s had to Chandler is Shaq. Old Shaq.
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part of the knicks stragy is to
get teams out of their comfort zone. You get into a high scoring game, and the knicks have a better offense to win.
They also have to have teh kind of Defense that leads to fast breaks. shumpshump should be great for that.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I don't know that I'm a fan of that....
I understand where Mike D is coming from when he says that they want to take opponents out of their comfort zones but to me that’s just not enough…I hated when he said that stuff…makes him sound weak. While I understand that philosophy, the one problem it’s always faced is that Defense is always more certain than Offense…You can do the right things on D and see tangible results more often than not, whereas Offense…not so much.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
part of the knicks strategy
not all of the strategy.
I think part of the problem, is in the past… we had really bad defensive players. I dont think that can be stated enough when talking about the way the knicks played defense last year. Defense starts at the 5, and we had maybe the worst defensive front court in the NBA. Now we dont.
I dont think its bad strategy to get other teams out of their comfort zone. And if we play a fast paced team, then we just have to do it better then them.
But the style of play we should play, is that sometimes we may give up an easy basket, the key is… to get that easy basket right back. We may give up more easy baskets, because we should be an aggressive team. Trying for the steal maybe a bit more then other teams do, gambling a little more so we can get out into transition.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
The thing is
I think that the team has improved defensive players but I wouldn’t say they’re a defensive team…I agree that players should be aggressive but I don’t think they should be diving after steals or jumping after blocked shots if these things get us out of position to play within the teams defensive scheme. The experts agree to that point. It leaves the player vulnerable and makes the team have to defend one more person until that person going for the steal or block can get back into position. If they could manage to stay in front of the opposing player, they’ll do much better defensively. The way Dallas was able to get that done was by playing the zone. We remember Mike D using the zone on occasion but will he use it more this year (I sure hope so)
The zone would allow us to keep folks out of the paint a little better, and secure sections of the court rather than chasing players around and fighting through tons of picks. This of course means that the guys will have to constantly be aware of where they are on D so that they don’t break the zone, but the team can cover a lot of ground that way. Once the opposition does get in there, hopefully, guys will close in on them pretty tightly and maybe disrupt the other teams flow a little then. If Chandler is changing and/or blocking a good number of those shots, and guys are holding their positions and disrupting passing lanes and things of that nature, then we’ll be fine.
I think I like this much better than going basket for basket against teams and being too aggressive, that puts us back where we were last year. It’s just not the sound option. D’Antoni knows this, so does the front office. That’s the reason they brought in a defensive coach. They need to play good sound defense. It doesn’t have to be 48 minutes worth but it has to come at the right time. And the team has to be able to turn it on and pile it on once they get it going. Once they get that down, we can make strides in the right direction. They’ve sure got their work cut out for them.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
But it may be our best option. Unless our back court proves they can keep guys out the paint and STAT and Melo prove they can lock their guys down. But, again, I think that’s asking a lot of this team. They’re an offensive team…it’s just what they are.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 25, 2011 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
Let me ask you Stingy...
Is it me, or am I feeling the same chemistry balance we had right before the Melo trade with these guys. You know…the team before Melo had some good glue and we all hated when that was broken up…but now I feel like this group has it too and it’s making feel like something really good is going to happen.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
yea absolutely
i see it coming together. its just a matter of when. and baron davis is a key. he doesn’t even have to be that incredible! but when he gets back and gets in the flow, i think thats when we’ll have a clear identity. we’ve certainly addressed our depth concerns. unfortunately with davis on the sideline, we still have that problem.
but once he’s in the mix, we have the chance to put the whole league on notice. i believe this team has what it takes- not necessarily to be a great defensive team end to end- but to get the critical stops that produce gritty wins.
the things that make me feel this way are the overall conviction of the team, and the general level of fitness. it seems like everyone on the team (even davis) is a gym rat. not everyone is a fitness guru (ahem, davis). but they are ballers for real. and they are ready to go in. they want to win, and they want to fuck teams up in the process.
we might struggle but i think the days of blowout wins followed up by blowout losses are behind us.
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The Davis delay may be a blessing in disguise
As certain guys will get critical experience handling the rock and passing. They are still going to have to play 10-15 minutes without Davis on the floor and I think they will by necessity get better at figuring out ways to score and get a flow going.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
plus....
The more practice those guys get now, the more we’ll be able to rely on them later.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
How did this happen?
First we got Amar’e and most of us worried he wouldn’t last the length of his contract. Then we massively overpaid for Melo to a lot of groaning and moaning. Then Dolan couldn’t dismantle the team with a CP3 trade and we ended up with Chandler. And now we’ve got BD at the vets minimum. Who saw this coming? Certainly not me.
I read a lot about our lack of depth but I really don’t see it. I think the pieces are there for a deep run and a possible championship. I thought we had good chemistry when we started last season, But who could have predicted this?
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yea man, i'm so confused about this
the most obvious thing to key in on here is toney douglas. everybody is saying he won’t be able to handle it. which isn’t wholly unfair. but toney can start in this league. if you look around the league, derick fisher is only passable at everything he does, yet he’s a championship level player. just cus he’s ballsy. and if toney douglas isn’t ballsy, i’m not stingy d on posting and toasting.
then look at fuckin mario chalmers… a pretty good shooter, and thats about it. yet the heat are worldbeaters? it might take time or maybe one more player to make the stars align for a championship. but when davis comes around we’ll have an answer for just about every team in the league.
if the defensive commitment is there… we’re a top 5 team
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I got to see them play for a few months before its confirmed
but Chandler might just be the perfect piece here. His whole mentality is defense and boarding. If he can rub off (pause) on others, it’ll go a long way. Carmelo needs to walk his talk too. He can’t be talking about defense and then just run and chuck all game. And Amar’e…if he can just do a little bit on defense other then trying to swat everything (stay in front of your man for fuck’s sake), we’ll be even bettererer.
Thing I love about Chandler is supposedly his PnR defense is top notch. We need that.
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Can't even get a good feel for the defense though.
It was vs. the Nets and everyone is off from the lockout. The hustle plays and effort was there though.
GO YANKEES, COWBOYS, AND KNICKS!
im trying so hard to
not wake up.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
this is why people against the Melo trade were WRONG
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I think most of the people against the Melo trade
just thought the price was too high. But yes, in retrospect, that trade keeps looking better and better. Especially if we end up getting Chandler back.
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Would love to get Ill Will back
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I think we're all with you on that one..but can we even get Will
Just adding him could give us some much needed depth and it gives us a lengthy player who can hold his own on both ends of the floor…but there are so many variables with Will… 1) Does he take 5 mil over the next two years? 2)Does Denver match any offer we throw at him? (most certainly) 3) WOuld we even be able to get him from China’s clutches. 4) Do we want to wait till April to sign him? (he’d have to wait till China’s season officially ends)
Say we were to get Will, does he take over the starting 2 spot, knowing what an asset he could be playing against other teams’ second units. Personally, I think he and Shump Shump in the second unit could be almost like sending another starting five out there in terms of the match-up problems they would give opposing teams.
I think it’s a pipe dream but I think a lot of people have definitely entertained it.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I agree it is highly improbable
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Isn't it pretty much impossible?
The Nuggets can match any offer, and all we can give is the 2.5. There’s no way they don’t just match that unless they somehow fall out of the playoffs and decide to tank.
Also....
K-Mart is already available…depending on what the Knicks feel they need in March and what they can realistically get, they might just decide to go with him. Also, finances just may put them out of the hunt for Will anyway. Right before Will was moved out of here his agent was talking about how Will was worth at the very least 7 mil per…obviously, if that’s the case, Knicks are way out of the running. It would take Will reeeaaallllyyy wanting to come back for us to get him and Denver reeeeaaalllyyy not caring to lose him. After the whole thing with Melo, that last point plays a huge role in this too…doubt they’d want to help us out.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 25, 2011 4:37 AM EST up reply actions
24 espn writers that cover basketball. 20 predict the Heat will win the championship.
Their are only 15 men that can put a stop to this psychotic Lebron/Wade worship. And they will have their say.
That's exactly what I want...I love that after Amare said what he said...
jokingly…D Wade took to twatting right after to let him know that they were watching out for us too…
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Remember how Durant was eaten alive by the Mavs defense?
Yeah, the Thunder are a year or two away.
TYBG
Umm...
1)Kevin Durant averaged 28ppg 9.4 rpg and 4 apg including 42 percent FG% against th Mavs in the playoffs . “Eaten alive by Mavs defense?” I dont think so.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/okc/split/6/oklahoma-city-thunder
2)Even if he did get eating alive. What the fuck do you call Lebron’s performance against the Mavs which really was ATROCIOUS. Historically bad really. Why is it that he is allowed to “bounce back” but not Kevin Durant? What is with you and flossy and some other guys. Whats with the Heat worship?
42% FG sucks
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Especially if you're averaging 28ppg
That means that you’re taking even more bad shots rather than passing the ball.
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
the issue was whether Durant was "eaten alive" by Mavs defense. The answer is no.
We can argue what 42 percent means, but what 28, 9, 4 and 42 percent definitely proves is that he wasn’t “eaten alive.” Its a pretty extreme statement.
Disagree.
If you’re scoring 28 on 42 PPG, you’re probably shooting a LOT of shots. Chances are they arent good shots, cause KD can shoot. If he was taking mostly good shots his % would be higher. He shot 9 for 21 on average on that series. He shot 23 percent on 3 point shots. 23 PERCENT FOR DURANT? That means he was not shooting open treys, which means he was defended well. No way Durant shoots that bad if he is getting good looks. 28 points on 21 shots is not very efficient. Admit it man, Dallas did a great job on Durant.
The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.
by JerzeeBalla on Dec 24, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
42%
not PPG. Sorry.
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by JerzeeBalla on Dec 24, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
the issue was whether Durant was “eaten alive” by Mavs defense. The answer is no.
We can argue what 42 percent means, but what 28, 9, 4 and 42 percent definitely proves is that he wasn’t "eaten alive." Its a pretty extreme statement.
p.s. on a side note. Does that mean Allen Iverson sucks for his entire career?
they ain't gonna win
sorry to burst your bubble.
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its about matchups too
miami’s frontcourt can’t hang with oklahoma city. and the backcourt is gonna get eaten alive by either harden or westbrook. its inevitable.
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my point is that
for the thunder on offense, someone is going to have a mismatch. be it westbrook or harden. probably durant gets lebron and battier and still demands a double team! but all in all, you gotta play that team straight up when it gets down to the nitty gritty, can you stop the mismatch. i have my doubts. and for what its worth, ibaka will feast on bosh going to the glass. so will nick collison, if they go that route.
the thunder match up with the heat in a way that would make me favor the thunder, if i were a betting man.
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i agree a thousand percent. I can't even begin to understand why 95 percent of espn, realgm.com, cnnsi..all pick the heat...never seen anything like it.
no center, no point guard, no reliable scoring 6th man…incredible.
Agreed. And I wouldn't count the Mavs out of repeating.
They lost chandler, but Haywood is a solid C and they got vince carter and lamar odom. You could argue they are a more potent offensive team then they were last year while being a bit worse on D. How can someone argue against Kidd/Carter/Odom/Dirk/Haywood not being a championship caliber team? Especially with Terry “and” Marion on the bench.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
How can someone argue against Kidd/Carter/Odom/Dirk/Haywood not being a championship caliber team?
by looking at a calendar
TYBG
More than match-ups
I worry about the Mavs this year simply because of age…with this accelerated season it’s going to wreak havoc on so many teams…especially those with older players. I just don’t see them repeating.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 4:27 AM EST up reply actions
Because Carter and Haywood suck
and the rest are another year older
Dirk
baptized Ibaka last playoffs.
by Fabfreebird on Dec 24, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Durant was shut down by Marion and Kidd with no double team
He won’t be a problem for LeBron and Battier.
TYBG
Yeah
I mean I think Lebron could guard Westbrook (look what he did to Rose) but then who guards Durant? Battier, I guess…
You could make arguments for both sides I guess
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
yea i mean...
if its battier, wade and lebron… thats the heat’s best defensive backcourt/wing. but i don’t think battier can match harden’s creativity, westbrook’s speed, or durant’s height. so despite battier being a smart defender, he’d struggle.
obviously the heat CAN beat the thunder. its just that i think the thunder just that tiny bit better, and have the advantage.
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I think LeBron guards Durant
and Wade guards Westbrook which leaves Bosh on Ibaka. Not sure how that will work out but the difference will probably be Hardin.
The Landryman can
fair enough
harden (their most creative player) gets to dump on ’em.
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Isn't Durant somewhat unstoppable as a shooter like Dirk?
I mean, Marion guarded Durant for the Mavs in the playoffs and Durant still put up 28ppg and shot 43% from the field. I don’t think it matters who guards him, he’s gonna score no matter what and he’s gonna score well.
Anyway, I think the Mavs had Lebron kryptonite and shut him down well last year, aka Chandler in the paint and marion on him away from it. Perkins takes care of the paint and Ibaka will D Lebron up 1-on-1, then add in westbrook and harden for wade to cover and you have a party. So I think if this matchup ever happens, Thunder take the heat in 5 in the finals. It just seems too much of a mismatch for them.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Ibaka on Lebron 1-1?
LOL, good luck with that
Marion is smaller and slower then Ibaka, and he did a hell of job of shutting him down.
I think the 3" taller, 10lbs heavier, younger and faster Ibaka will do fine. Ibaka is a Lebron kryptonite style defender. Big, long, fast, ball swatting F. No I don’t think Ibaka is gonna shut down Lebron completely, but I sure think he can contain him really well. And for paint help, Haywood is pretty damn good. Can’t you see reasoning for how Ibaka is the type of forward that Lebron will “struggle” against?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Remember at the start of last year's playoffs
When you just wouldn’t shut the fuck up about how Chicago was going to destroy the Heat, LeBron and Wade had no chance against a real team that could go ten deep etc. etc.
Do you then remember how the Heat absolutely shat all over Derrick Rose and Co.? Made the league MVP look impotent, made a quick five game mockery out of the team with the best record in the NBA? Any of this ringing a bell?
It’s cute how you hate the Heat and everything, but that doesn’t actually make them bad. In fact, they are very, very good. They have the best basketball player in the world (by a mile), and another one of the top 5, and another one of the top 20. They made the finals in their first year together. They are coming into this season with absolutely massive motivation to shut the mouths of people like you. They are the overwhelming favorite to win it all this year whether you like it or not. That doesn’t mean that people who acknowledge this fact are Heat fans. It means they know a fuckin’ thing or two about basketball.
by flossy on Dec 23, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yikes!!!
Actually, I was just watching something on TNT where the panel thought the Heat would take a step backwards this year. I think a lot of what happens when a team assembles so quickly with the types of names that those guys have…I mean, you’re right about their stature, but I don’t know that too many teams are going to be in awe of them like they were last year and I thought that was a big contributer to why the team faired so well. But other teams have gotten better. Coaches have designed strategies to specifically deal with the trifecta down there, and adding Battier was ok…but not much else has changed.
Another thing is…what if they don’t win it this year….they’re stuck with this group for the foreseeable future…what becomes of their psyche? Do they have to win everything this year in order to keep themselves from falling apart?
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
i think haslem is the key
he wasn’t around for most of the season. he is much tougher than bosh, and much more savvy than joel anthony. doesn’t need the ball to be effective. and is mean as hell. if he can get it going, i think thats the extra push the heat need. and it will probably allow them to figure out more clearly how to use bosh.
i hate bosh. but as good as he is, they need to figure out how to use him.
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flossy..
I don’t know what your getting all apoplectic about. I was addressing the near unanimity of opinion among sportswriters that the Heat will win the championship. I wasn’t saying or suggesting the Heat weren’t good enough to win a championship or that they aren’t good enough to go to the Finals. I was merely saying that a team like Oklahoma – for example – is arguably a better team than the Heat and they should be given a little more respect than a 5 percent chance, among all these so-called “sports journalists,” to win a championship.
they are coming into this season with absolutely massive motivation to shut the mouths of people like you. They are the overwhelming favorite to win it all this year whether you like it or not. That doesn’t mean that people who acknowledge this fact are Heat fans. It means they know a fuckin’ thing or two about basketball.
Their are plenty of teams that will have an equal amount of motivation to beat the Heat aside from the fact that teams like the Bulls and Knicks have upgraded their rosters, the latter significantly. What makes you think the Heat have a monopoly on motivation?
Most sportswriters’ predictions aren’t any more accurate than that of the average fan. Same with stock investing (ever hear of the monkey theory on stock picking ( http://www.automaticfinances.com/monkey-stock-picking/ ) These “people that fucking know a thing or two about basketball” picked the Cavs to win the championship 2 years ago and Mavs to get eliminated in the 1st round last year. Please don’t defend the indefensible.
P.S I never said the Heat were “bad.” They are though a collection of psychotically egoistic pricks who were on the receiving end of a well-earned prison-fuck last year courtesy of the team that they thought and you thought and alot of so-called experts thought they’d crush. So your failed Heat prediction makes you equally as wrong as I was in predicting the Bulls would beat the Heat. Does that mean we are both idiots? Oh by the way. I think the Knicks will beat the Heat this year. Thats right. I said it. Because a team with a center, point guard, shooting guard, power forward, small forward and a 6th man is better than a team with a small forward, power forward, shooting guard and no sixth man.
I just bet $10 on the Knicks at 20-1 to win the championship in 2012
On the Sportsbook web site.
Anyway, the Heat are less than 2/1. I’m not sure how these odds are set, if it’s by an individual or consensus or a function of the action. It will be interesting to see how the odds change as the season progresses. I like my bet.
The Landryman can
HA HA..I'm not betting against the Knicks this year
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 4:28 AM EST up reply actions
Eh idk
I just really don’t like how he plays. Even at PF I can think of a lot of guys that are better.
Love
Gasol
Griffin
Amar’e
Aldridge
Dirk
Z-Bo
Maybe even Lee and Boozer
I don't like him, but talent-wise he's on par with all those guys
except Griffin, Gasol and Dirk. He’s a hell of a lot better than Lee and Boozer, don’t kid yourself.
I seriously love that Chicago's big get during that FA crazy summer was Carlos Boozer.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
Meeee too
Imagine how scary they’d be if they could ever sign the right free agents. Like what if they’d signed Amar’e instead of Boozer and, I dunno, Jamal Crawford this offseason instead of the chalk outline of Rip Hamilton.
by the same token
i feel pretty lucky that Bosh was the third member of the “Big 3”. Even though I agree with you that he’s probably near a top 20 guy, he’s not a great fit for them.
Sadly, it might not matter. That team looks scary right now.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 28, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Ironically, despite the talent disparity between the two, the Heat would probably be much better served by someone like… Tyson Chandler. Bosh is too much of a finesse player and scoring prowess is not really what they need from the 3rd best player on that team. That team is kind of poorly constructed but LeBron and Wade are so good, that yeah… it’s gonna be a steep uphill battle for anyone else to get out of the East for the next few years.
If I were Otis Smith, I would call up Pat Riley and offer Dwight Howard for LeBron straight up. If he thinks about it for more than 30 seconds but ultimately declines, you can leak “Riley considers LeBron/D12 trade” to the press and watch LeBron have a mental breakdown while also increasing Dwight’s trade value even further. If Riley says yes, hey, you’ve just landed the best basketball player on the planet! Your team is still all kinds of ‘effed up but that’s not bad as far as lateral moves go!
However, I would hate to see that happen since Wade/Bosh/Dwight is even more of a lock to own the East than Wade/LeBron/Bosh, for the reason you mentioned.
by flossy on Dec 28, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta see it on the court first.
bravado is cute and all but like the Heat last year, it don’t really mean shit.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Same. It's more than just having the new Chandler, Shumpert, Davis and Harrelson additions who all each provide something we need.
It’s Melo and Amar’e saying they know how important defense is, it’s Landry saying he knows he played like crap in the playoffs and 2nd half of the year, it’s Douglas saying he doesn’t care if he starts or not, it’s D’Antoni endorsing his own guys like heck and our new found swagger.
I’ve never been so psyched for basketball in my life (prob because of the lockout), which is saying a lot because I’m always hyped for bball. This team is going to be special.
the team is not gonna get overhauled either
thats a bizarre threat that everyone has had to play through for years. and now they can just go out there and really play, they have security.
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lol
I guess we’ll see about Mike D…the best cure for those sorts of rumors is winning…I think we saw what he could do with mediocre talent. Those guys didn’t necessarily win but we saw great things out of anyone who would listen to him. D-Lee saw a FAT payday under Mike. He had a way of even making use of Jeffries…how many people could claim that???
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mike D deserves a whole season
Even if they struggle out of the gate, I give him the whole season. I think it’s crazy to talk about firing the guy, I really do. I mean, yeah, if they miss the playoffs or get swept right out, then maybe, but for the first time since he was hired, he has a team that is probably stable for the whole season.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i would give him at least 2
unless he royally fucks up… he’s one of the better coaches in the league
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yea I think he gets the whole year
unless the team totally craps out like missing the playoffs or getting swept out of first round
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
my biggest fear
is that the knicks take a week or two before they start getting it together, and the media goes on a fire Mike D tyrade… which becomes a downward spiral.
Mike deserves this full season to show us how he can coach a real team. Then, at the end (which is also the end of his contract) he should be evaluated and hopefully resigned.
Dude is one of the most respected coaches in all of basketball. It would be a shame if he was to get the boot now. After we finally have gathered a real team for him.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
i completely agree
my black rican friend can tell you tho- the pringles watch is already on. if through the first 10 games the knicks are 6-4 or worse its gonna be a race between isola and berman.
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and now there is no hahn
to offer a rational perspective.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I agree...The watch is on
Looking at the those first ten games I would actually put the Knicks at 8-2, possibly 7-3. If they were to get down to 6-4 or worse, the media is gonna have a field day.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
cmon be fair to Jeffries
Eddie Jordan and everybody’s favorite Isaiah made use, arguably better use of Jeffries in the NBA
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
ive noticed this to
me and my friends arent usually on the same page about the knciks. but this year we all feel like we’re destined 4 a championship
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 23, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions
if not this year, we'll have our shot within the next 2 or 3 years
The longer this team gets to play together, the more we’ll know about their make-up. I think though that striking while the iron is hot can be key…Right now everyone is keeping an eye on us to see what this group can do but not even the group knows what it’s capable of, which to me means the sky is the limit. Sort of like what Boston did in their first year together…Miami in their first year did it as well…just took the league by storm….I think we’re all hoping something like that happens.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
I see a 4 year window if they can keep this team together
Looking forward to it.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i see a 6 if we add wilson or gallo next year
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 23, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually giving them time to repeat.
I see them winning a chip sooner than later and I’m hoping they can even repeat…
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 4:30 AM EST up reply actions
I love this guy:
Jared Zwerling: From 9:30 to 10:30 on Christmas Day, Amare Stoudemire is treating MSG employees to breakfast to celebrate the holidays. about 13 minutes ago
Get The Frickin' Rebound
he is becoming the firsf face this ffranchise has had in a while
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 23, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Dude has the Mitzvah thing down
It’s nice to root for solid citizens. Do you think Kmart woulda ever done that?
Get The Frickin' Rebound
The player or the franchise....cuz we may soon see for ourselves...hahaha
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
YEah...first face, also, the only one willing to do so in ages
I can’t remember another player actually both wanting AND deserving of being the face of the franchise…check the grammar on that
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 23, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
STAT is bt far.
the best franchise player we’ve had since ewing
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 24, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I was reluctant to say Ewing only because...
Ewing didn’t seem to want the tag. He accepted it and owned it, but I’m not so sure he wanted it. STAT, on the other hand, really wants it. That takes a lot of guts to want it.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 24, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ewing did all of his stuff on the court where it matters
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
I agree...but
I truly feel that if he could have passed the baton to someone else he would have.
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 25, 2011 4:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe off the court, but not on it
Ewing was always a “give me the ball” when it mattered most type of player. He was awesome. It’s too bad that he didn’t have better talent surrounding him or he would have at least one ring.
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
true...
But those times were probably the most exciting times of my young life…I loved them
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
by BlackRican08 on Dec 25, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
eh. wasnt alive or old enough during his time
from my understandment. he was the franchize player.
and a true knick
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 26, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
a Jew celebrating Christmas?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Dec 24, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Miami fan reaction to Amar'e's Trash talk
Somehow I ended up on the real gm bulletin board for Miami fans and found this gem.
It’s only a rivalry if he was challenging the Sioux Falls Skyforce, the Knicks are trash and I’m definitely not scared about them. Let’s see the McGrady’s get out of the first round for once.
How long have Miami fans referred to us Knick fans as “McGrady’s?” Am I missing something or has this otherwise knowledgeable fellow fan fallen into a time warp?
The Landryman can
McGrady's?
wait…did we get T-Mac?
!!!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Dec 24, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
It's beautiful
Any true Heat fan knows the Knicks have owned the Heat, and all the fair weather Miami fans are confused why they are terrified of the Knicks being good again.
by Chuck Burly on Dec 24, 2011 4:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They've got their eyes on us
The article that this post was based on had D-Wade responding on twitter within minutes…If the fans aren’t watching out the players sure are…
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
its funny tho
new york usually has a good fan turnout in miami.
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One more note about the Miami Fans....
It’s funny to hear “die-hard” Miami fans speak because there are only about 2 of them in existence. Before, when you went to any Heat game against the Knicks, more than half the crowd was there to see the Knicks. The cheering went both ways during most games because of the influx of New Yorkers who had moved there over the past 15 or so years. So, to me, those are not true fans…not like New Yorkers…so I take what they say with a grain of salt…they just got into the game
Jared Jeffries is like, "What am I, chopped liver?" and we're like, "Yeah, kinda."
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