Warriors 92, Knicks 78: "This game is yucky."

as I got up early for work (am there now, first thing I do is log onto P&T), but my god i wish I’d have slept an extra hour.

Ball movement was terrible, not just Toney (although he was the main culprit) but Melo, Amar’e Landry and Bully all missed open passes.

The worst one was when Jordan had spun nicely into the paint, with no-one anywhere near him. Douglas drove to the baseline and ended up being blocked by Rush.

Good news is, Lakers don’t have anyone named Brandon to kill us tonight

I’ll try not to let this ruin it.

Warriors fans and baseline dunks were the highlights of the live experience. Beer is $11 at Oracle and the seats are built for pygmies; those along with the game itself were the Ish parts. This team needs Baron Davis’s back to shore up tout suite.

Which would just about summarize my feelings about this . And guys, it was just one game. We ain’t gonna go 66-0. Everybody on the team dediced to suck last night, which usually leads to a loss. Are we missing a PG? No doubt, but we’ve seen what this team can do without a PG in the opener against the Celtics. No need to call for trades or coaching changes after one damn game.

Off course melo and Amare are gonna iso all day if no one is going to run a play. Toney Douglas can’t make a pass for his life. His play making ability is limited to chucking up shots, lobbing a pass to a covered Melo or just completely missing his target.

our FA center looked terrible. Frustrating game, but I think Chandler just needs to find out where he fits in. Also I think we need a backcourt that can play ball and doesn’t play scurred like Landry and TD.

Boom and Shump don’t lack for confidence. Unfortunately they do lack for health and time. I suspect that March is the real time we see the true Knicks squad running and gunning, dishing and swishing, penetrating and devastating(barring everyone healthy then…..), will that be too late?

We pretty much camped out and tried for jumpers or threes because we didn’t attack the basket or couldn’t get the ball into the paint.

I don’t know if the Warriors defense was that great or we were just that inept.

Melo seems to be the only real guy who can create is own shot on que, and when he isn’t hitting, well… that is all she wrote.

Amare at the 4 seems less effective offensively then at the 5. Not saying he isn’t effective.

We need to combine TD and Bibby somehow.

I rather have a healthy shumpert playing right now trying to learn point, instead of BD. I know there is a huge love of BD, but I rather have the young buck trying to attack the basket physically and drawing guys in to open up our wing players.

JORTS looks terrible. I really do not think its nerves. I think he doesn’t know what he is doing. I want to see what JJ can do but I’m not holding my breath.

when there were rumors of trading him for Crawford, I was against it but it was because I don’t like Crawford, not because I love TD. I think he’s an undersized SG who can’t run an offense. If we can trade him for a backup 4 or a decent draft pick, I say pull the trigger.

Jerome Jordan: you hear a lot that hes still “Raw” but i saw some things that showed he may be a little more mature than hes credited for

Bully: when he’s not pushing people out the way to score hes pretty ok. he needs to keep that up. those ticky tac fouls have to go though

Lin: we should be seeing more of him tonight, in his limited time he showed without really knowing the offense that he can still make smart decisions. shit him and TD was like Rubio coming in for Iverson (too much of a stretch??)

Balkman: keeps cutting like that he might make top 5 in Seths ranking (if someones willing to pass him the ball) but the corner 3… at this moment save those for practice

we’re in next game mode so im pumped for tonight, i think we can consider this a need/must win

warm up the heating pads and cancel that backionomy

anytime soon, and ball movement is getting stagnant, one thing I wouldn’t mind seeing a little more of is Melo getting the ball with his back to the basket down on the block. There are very few forwards than match him straight up in both strength and speed. If a guard comes down to double, he can try to hit an open man at the perimeter, which is hopefully where TD and Landry can prove their value.

I’m not 100% what the plan is with Chandler in the offense going forward, but I hope that’s evolving.

And hey, maybe a punch in the mouth early like this will serve as a reminder of how much work it will take for the team to reach their goal.

His time in garbage time was the only point during the entire game when a knick guard was able to get in the paint and make a good pass (the drop off for a Jordan dunk was the only bright spot in the second half)…we really need baron in there, bcuz Douglas is NOT a point guard

just an ugly ugly outing.

And I’m glad that nobody really is. Chemistry would’ve helped last night, but we probably still would’ve lost. Without a real point guard that can run an offense, we’re entirely dependent on the isolation abilities of Melo and STAT. When both of them are ice cold and are missing open jumpshots, we have no chance. If we had a distributer at PG (like Baron Davis), we wouldn’t be so damn reliant on Melo’s contested elbow jumpers and Amare’s isolations.

Get well soon B-Diddy!!

Blame the bum and his staff for this lose.
You had Fields and Walker playing with fresh legs and doing well on both ends.
But no D’Antoni and his coaching clowns just let Carmelo and Amare go down bomb away even when they both were mssing very bad.
With Carmelo bringing the ball up and then missing with bombs. We had nobody going down low to rebound. OUCH!
As I always said, this bum D’Antoni belongs at the college leveel if he wants to win.
I am retracting my past statements and pointing out that he ONLY belongs in the summer Rucker league coaching.
I guess the prisoners are running the team instead of the coach. Eight million dollars per year as a coward coach.
At my age I need a nap now after watching this late game.
Actually I am taking the nap to be ready to watch the assault that will take place tonight when L.A.Lakers blast our team out of the arena. We have time for Sacramento because the same will happen to us on Saturday.
Bye-Bye D’Antoni. Stay tune it is coming.

Not just this game but even in the Nets series the lack of fundamental tools needed for the PG position doesn’t seem to be there and after an extended lockout filled summer, I kinda expected some improvement.

Even if he never learns how to play the point TD is still a good player with value. He is a very good scorer and defender.

Now it’s only the first couple of games and maaaaybe he was too busy rehabing his shoulder to watch tape or practice pick and rolls or hitting cutters? I’m willing to give him a few weeks but I’m really disappointed.

melo and amare need to establish their low post games so they can keep the defense honest.all this jump shooting does the knicks no good and i cant wait for baron to come back.how many open ally hoops passes did the knicks attempt that were horrible.as much as i love tony douglas he needs to come off the bench.i mean with a minute lleft in the game a got a pass from jordan…jordan ran towards the basket and douglas drove to the hoops and jordan was wide open and douglas took the bad shot instead we cant have a so called point guard doing shit like that.so get well soon baron we need you badly

all I have to do is go over to TKB and read those comments and realize that only crazy people would be too distraught this early. Its like if I think I am drinking too much and ruining my life, then walk past a guy passed out on the sidewalk in his own vomit and realize that there is much worse and plenty of time for me to turn my life around.

Its not yet time to fire the coach, and its not time to start hating melo.

We KNEW this team would have growing pains early on. Of all the teams in the NBA, the knicks prob needed preseason the most. Its a whole new team, that is going to play in a very different style then they have played in the past. The first half is going to be very bumpy.

three thoughts -

I hope Mike D plays some of these other guys and doesnt rely on just his starters. Jordan looked good. I want to see the Asian persuasion get some real burn. I fear that Mike D will start to hear people calling for his head (TKB is full of em, really) and start to rely on guys he knows and not be willing to experiment.

We need BD. I hope he comes in ready to go cause it really seemed they needed someone on the court to tell these guys what to do. We have the star (melo), we have the emotion (STAT), we have the rock (Chandler)… we dont have the leader out there. Toney isnt going to get on melo if he misses a cut or pick. BD will.

It still pisses me off that these guys didnt get together during the lockout. I know that it would have been burps and not Chandler… but I cant help but think of how much it would have helped the team.

I really hope he is healing well enough to come back and remain in the lineup.

Melo is running the point. Yes we’re putting out headbands in one basket, but with BD coming back Melo will be able to grab more boards…just like he did last year. I was surprised of how well of a rebounder he became.

Big stage.

1. With everyone expecting Tyson to single handily defend everyone, instead of getting a lot block it could result in a lot of fouls. That’s what happens when you get you guys funneled to you the entire game. I sadly said that this could happen and I was right about it last night, then again happily I was wrong against Boston in which he got a lot of blocks instead of fouls.
2. Like most would agree, Toney can’t play PG! He’s a good scorer but his defense isn’t that good (extremely over-rated defensively, he gives great effort but he just makes dumb mistakes) and his dribbling/ play making is horrible. Nice to see him get some boards though.

Let’s just get this gross taste out of our mouths tonight against LA. I actually like this match up a lot. Melo loves playing against Kobe (and Lebron and Durant too) and he usually plays great against them (offensively and defensively). I like the big match ups because it’s looking like Amar’e will have Murphy or McRoberts on him, the bad news is for some reason Amar’e sucks at defense against below average PFs. And Toney doesn’t actually have to guard anyone good so he should be able to get his points tonight. Landry and Walker will have their hands full with Kobe tonight, but I don’t think Kobe and Pau are enough to win the game for LA with this current supporting cast.

josh harrellson only dribbled the ball because nobody would come to the ball. he was wondering, as i was wondering, and as everyone should have wondered, why nobody would come get the ball.

so its not his fault. the guards gotta have the presence of mind. but thy are fuckin up, bein lazy.

But I need to see some ball movement with this team. And I wanna see more from Jerome Jordan and Lin. They looked really good yesterday.

the holes and deficiencies of the current roster and the system. It is the responsibilities of the coaching staff to make all necessary adjustments and likewise the players to stik with the system – way too many breakdowns in both the offense and defense.

Offense: we need better ball movement – it needs to flow. we can’t really on the ISO too early in the possession. TD is not the answer for the PG. we need for the J.Lin to work double-time to learn the system and see what he can do; he is a pass-first PG, he can penetrate, smart passes – why not give him a chance because TD is not the answer for the PG position now or later. Novak and JJ need to see some burn.

Defense: I know being defensive was never the nature of many of the NYK holdovers and are still adjusting to what MikeW’s system. Tyson will be more effective when each player ont the floor starts being accountable with hteir role defensively so he doesn’t chase everyone and make him susceptible to fouls.

We can do it for a half – we just need to play 48 minutes with consistency then we will be allright. We need to win games like last night if we aspire to go deep into playoffs by playing smart-ball when things are not easy for us. Its how the champions differ from the pretenders. It can never be excused taht there was not enough preparation – all teams had equal time to prepare!

thought you guys would be interested:

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2011/12/29/2667913/synergy-recap-golden-state-warriors-vs-new-york-knicks-12-28-11

how we come out against the Lakers will say a lot about the personality of this team. It seemed last night that they thought that they would be able to mail it in a get a win but that is not the case.

I also dont understand why Amar’e sat for so long in the first quarter and I dont think this helped him in terms of getting in to a rhythm I really believe we have to commit to getting Amar’e going early and going from there.

Because your recaps are never short and you drop about 30 jokes in each one (not that I’m complaining – your recaps rock).

Also, Eh! Steve! is going to be all I think of whenever I see Steve Novak from now on.