It sure doesn't sound like Jeff Foster will be a Knick.
by Seth on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM EST
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This Marc Berman story is ostensibly about the Knicks making a big push for Jeff Foster-- Donnie Walsh is reportedly heading the recruitment in Indiana-- but it really doesn't sound like any size push will be enough:
Foster, 34, is not making a recruiting visit to the Knicks. He was thought to be on his last legs as a health risk but boosted his play late last season and helped the Pacers earn a playoff spot.
Foster desperately wants to stay in Indiana and indicated he may be willing to take less money, since he wants to finish his career with Indiana, where he has played 12 seasons. In a bad sign for the Knicks, Foster showed up at the Pacers’ practice facility to work out Thursday on the first day teams unlocked the doors.
The Knicks are like "oh, it's LESS money that you want!? We can offer less money!".
But, yeah. I suppose we shouldn't rule out Walsh's powers of persuasion, but I count at least three motives for Foster to stay in that blockquote. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this one. Foster, who is one of the best rebounders in NBA history, would fit the Knicks like a glove fits into a glove compartment. Then again, injuries have limited him to just 62 games played over the last two seasons, and the last thing the Knicks need is another big guy wearing a suit.
I don't know, guys. We heard earlier that the Knicks might pocket their mid-level exception this year, but now it's been suggested that they might be willing to dip into it immediately. How do we feel about this? Probably give all of the dollars to Bostjan Nachbar, right?
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if we're gonna spend, lets go after someone serious
tyson chandler, marc gasol, ne…. ne, but if we’re gonna ‘keep’ our money, why use it on a rotation player, that is only gonna make a small difference?
continuity with our current players can make a huge impact on the team’s chemistry. the constant influx has been detrimental. and obviously we’ve acquired some serious talent. but, come on now, let these guys play together!
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The big names are out of our price range, from everything i've read.
I’d be fine with re-upping Extra E and SheWill. And throw Jerome Jordan into the mix in a Timmy Mozgov role.
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by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not in favor of blowing our money
just because we feel like we gotta get a “star” but if we needed to we have about 13 mil to spend so it’s not as if we can’t window shop or negotiate with free agents.
I think Tyson Chandler would be the best fit AND a better fit than Paul right now to be honest, despite Paul being the better player.
If I weren’t so worried his knee would detonate the second he cashes his first check I’d easily give Chanler 13 mil right now to be a Knick.
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
i dont see him getting over 10 anywhere
i may be wrong but i think his injuries will prohibit him from getting over that. expect Nene to cash in close to that somehwere (possibly back at Denver). i think 13 would be overpaying Chandler
by blackhova on Dec 5, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You mean 13 mil next season right, because we are 2 mil over the cap from everything I've
read and have only a 5 mil MLE to offer anybody not willing to sign a roster exception for league min.
Yeah
I think we also have the biannual exception (read it in a Berman article) which is good for $1.9 million a season, so maybe that will help attract a higher level scrub?
I wouldn’t be at all opposed to using our MLE on one of the good free agent big men out there this free agency, but from what I’ve heard, even Sam Dalembert is hoping to entertain offers bigger than the MLE, so that would likely put Chandler, Nene, or Gasol out of our range.
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by WSD on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
damn
“desperately” wanting to stay on a team that made the playoffs by the skin of their teeth last year? Showing up to the practice facility when you don’t have a contract? Either he wants family stability or he’s SHOOK.
SAVE THE AMNESTY!!
by total hermination on Dec 5, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions
Maybe he likes playing there afterall he has been there his whole career basically
and the Knicks basically made the playoffs by the skin of our teeth last year. And Indiana is younger and deeper than we are. Remember the clowned us in two back to backs and we needed a last second shot to win the last game. Not exactly a ringing endorsement to Foster to say, geez I can’t beat those guys so might as well join them. The consensus in the Pacer lockerroom and among pacer fans is that if they had to play us in the playoffs they would have beat us easily. In his opinion Foster may be saying no thanks because he already feels he is on the better team.
They must be thinking we're the Bulls
Fish Fingers give me a break.
by GAx on Dec 6, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Same Old Shit
The Knicks need to stop going after old age players and just get the right pieces that we need.
Foster, Nachbar are a joke.
With Stoudemire,Jordan, Anthony, S.Williams, L.Fields as our front rotation we need a true center to contribute with J.Jordan. Foster and Nachbar are not the answers.
T.Douglas and I.Shumpert make for a solid second unit for this year.
C.Billups and a starting two is our other need.
So now you can see why Foster and Nachbar are a waist of time.
Can we say trade for O.J.Mayo?
first time i almost fully agree.
Besides trading for mayo. Unless its a one sided blindfold job that benefits us.
Our needs are center 1 and s guard 2 though. And yes , he should not be of the hybrid center mold.
“I want my center, and i want it NOW”
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Dec 5, 2011 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We should also trade for Brandon Jennings, Blake Griffin, Hasheem Thabeet, Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Jason Thompson, DeMarcus Cousins
And every other young player who was hyped in the past three years.
Other teams are willing to trade, and the so-called busts will blossom even though D’Anphony is a soft fake coach with a stupid mustache.
unwavering demands from last year
i could see mayo being a potent 2, but would always have to have the ball in his hands, and that may take away chances from stat and melo to produce.
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by mindcontrolproject on Dec 6, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Ball Handle
O.J.Mayo can run the floor and play without the ball.
The fact that he can handle the ball to bail out the point guard is a good thing.
Carmelo is good down low in the blocks, so having a point guard and shooting guard giving him the ball down low without Carmelo dribbling is a good thing.
Did you see O.J.Mayo’s younger brother play yet?
Another talented guard playing for Marquette.
Todd Mayo is going to be a good NBA talent just like his brother.
If your gonna go after a defender / rebounder at the center position why not chuck hayes instead?
by ap3604 on Dec 5, 2011 10:08 AM EST reply actions
I am starting to see the logic in this
Chuck Hayes is only 6’6" and that perhaps rules him out for most teams. But, though I hate having an undersized team, the fact is that Chuck Hayes would play better defense and get more rebounds at the 5 than any more conventionally sized guy we’ve got.
Plus, I mean, if you look at his measurements, his standing reach of 8’8,5" is equal to Jorts’ and a half inch higher than She-will’s, and his rebounding per minute numbers are comparible to She-will’s. Not only that but he also played Center for a Rockets team that didn’t completely suck.
I think signing Hayes to the MLE for a season, and then bringing in Jordan and Jorts and evaluating them during the season, is about as succesful a free agency plan as the Knicks are likely to execute.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
i think i read somewhere that Chuck Hayes is staying with the Rockets
i think
by blackhova on Dec 5, 2011 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Finally Edgar Allan Poe can go back to what he does best...
Recapping Knick games
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by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions
Kwane Brown needs a look.
The greatest player ever!!!
by terellchewy on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
although i really really REALLY dislike the guy
i agree 100%, if anything to spurn miami. but i do think just him being out there on the floor will be good for us. we wont ask of him to score or even technically run plays through him, just set picks, rebound and defend the basket. Jerome Jordan, Kwame Brown and Turiaf/Jorts as a collective Center would help greatly.
by blackhova on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kwame Brown may no longer be in our market. The Celtics, Spurs and possibly the heat may be
willing to go as high as full MLE for the Dude. Do you want to give Kwame Brown a Jerome James deal? If not better let him go!
Let's get Vince Carter on a vet's minimum deal
He’ll be motivated playing on a winning team with other stars. He can play PG/SG as a 6th man and release another line of shoes.
pg?
for realz?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
mindfeck just mindfucked us all
now i need me a Jeffrey
by blackhova on Dec 5, 2011 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he played backup PG for the Nets too
Like how his cousin T-Mac did for the Pistons. Vince Carter is good at that. He’s even averaged 5 assists a game.
Vince Carter was much better
Except on the Suns, of course, since they were a non-playoffs team. Vince doesn’t waste energy on bad teams.
frankly
anyone who isn’t concerned with winning doesn’t deserve a spot on a team. just because its hard to win with a non-playoff team, doesn’t mean you should feel fine with giving up on trying. even if you can’t win games, you must feel like a jackass when jared dudley outplays you.
vince carter absolutely fucking blows.
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He's concerned with winning when the team has a chance
Sure, he coasts on bad teams, but his coasting is still better than half the guys on the Knicks, and the team should be good.
He was a disappearing act with the Magic too
That was considered to be a big time move by Orlando to win the championship and Vince didn’t do shit
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by WSD on Dec 5, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
But that was a million years ago
and he’s just so laaaaaaaaame
no thanks.
This guy is abysmal on defense now. And his offense doesn’t make up for the lack of d or his lack of urgency on the court.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Dec 5, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You can definitely do worse
With the magic, he outscored the guy he was guarding by 5 and the Magic were +7 with him. He’s significantly better than Roger Mason Jr, and still better than Bill Walker.
he's a chuck fest tho
And is he worth replacing landry. And taking up valuable minimum contract space? We can do worse yea. But i really don’t think he’s a good fit on this roster as is.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Dec 5, 2011 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd honestly rather have McGrady if you're envisioning the roster spot going to a guard who can play both positions. And we were really that deep in a hole for a guard.
I mean how many assists did David Lee have per game when he was with us? Assist totals mean jack nothing when you’re talking about capability to play the point. The best thing I could say about him is he’d be a pretty good spot-up on the arc, but with tissue-thin defense and hilariously automatic planking mid-game whenever someone bumps him running up the court.
Him and McGrady frittered away fucking AMAZING potential…
Fish Fingers give me a break.
by GAx on Dec 6, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
I could have sworn he had more than that with the offense running through him at times.
3.6? That was enough to lead all C’s in assists??
Fish Fingers give me a break.
How many centers are there who pass?
Shaq, who was near retirement. Brad Miller, who was a backup. And?
you're skipping the biggest flaw feck
but with tissue-thin defense and hilariously automatic planking mid-game
the guy is now terrible on defense, and is slow footed, and is notorious for taking an exit when the lights get bright and the stakes are great. Ill pass
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I would have expected you to be on the No Vince Carter ever boat.
He’s old and is not a very efficient player and shoots way too much.
compared to Toney Douglas
He was equally efficient, shot a bit more, rebounded better, higher assist rate (most seasons), more blocks. Not bad at all. When the alternative is someone like Roger Mason Jr. you consider people who can still play.
"would fit the Knicks like a glove fits into a glove compartment" is beautiful.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions
He remains in the picture "in a consulting role".
That consulting role might be limited to business that takes place in Indiana.
Too bad, I thought Forster will be a good fit
I didn’t realize he made 6 mill a year, so I guess he’s out of our price range anyway.
Unless, of course, Indiana will not be willing to offer him the same type of money, so who knows.
But seriously, what is the plan here?? If we clearly don’t have enough cap space next season (they are talking 13-14 mill max) to sign Howard, Paul or Williams as a free-agent then why are we saving for next season?
Shouldn’t we do whatever we can to add assets to this years squad, which means use the MLE even for a long term contract, use the bi-annual even for a 2-3 years deal and use the Vet minimum.
If we don’t have the money to sign free-agents and we have no corners to cut in order to clear cap space, the only other alternative is getting over the cap with assets so that we can either pull a mid-season trade or a sign and trade in the summer.
We may not need a Center.
Some of yall, Jared Zwerling is swearing that Landry looks like he got trapped in a weight room this off season. He used the words Massive, and huge! Maybe Fields plans to take a page from Extra E and beat the snot out of Shumpert if he threatens his playing time. Okay I am exagerrating, But Landry is saying that he Bulked up and gained about 10 lbs of muscle to help him finish better at the rim as he plans to drive to the basket more this season.
Damn he's pretty beefed up
I knew my boy would come back with a vengeance this season!
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by WSD on Dec 5, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing how he has grown vertically as well
I know this because Jared Zwerling is 6’3".
Landry will be a beast this year. I think I will add him back to my sig.
If it were, Landry would be 7 foot!
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somebody need to give that fool a clean haircut.
no more fluff-hawks
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here's the video
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Fish Fingers give me a break.
by GAx on Dec 6, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
If CP3 gets traded before the season and says he will sign with that team (Most likely Clippers or Lakers)
Do we say fuck it….and overpay Gasol, Nene, or Chandler?
We can't really overpay them
All we can do is offer them the full MLE and hope that we can sell them on playing for a winner
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by WSD on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Shit
Forgot we wasted our cap on Chauncey
by michael28102 on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wait and see...
it’s not going to be a “waste”.
We could use our amnesty chip on Chauncy to create space
but more likely he would be part of a sign and trade for one of those centers
The Landryman can
bostjan nachbar: dunk machine
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the knicks could use some of this. seriously.
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by mindcontrolproject on Dec 6, 2011 1:55 AM EST reply actions
how're we tryin to have a guy named Boston Ackbar on our team
cmon guys
Fish Fingers give me a break.
by GAx on Dec 6, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
at least he would have a cool nickname
Admiral Nachbar
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