Some Thoughts On The Possibility of The Knicks Signing Tyson Chandler
by Seth on Dec 8, 2011 6:00 PM EST
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PrintMan, oh man! That came on suddenly. And it's not over, either. I'm going to operate under the assumption, though, that the Knicks are going to lose Chauncey Billups and Ronny Turiaf and acquire Tyson Chandler, because that appears to be inevitable. Any further trades or signings are more than my little frontal lobe can reason through right now. Things on my mind, all of which hinge on the aforementioned assumption (this is mostly just a new thread for y'all. Nothing I'm about to say is an entirely original thought):
- Woj is reporting that Chandler's deal will be for $58 million over four years. That's too much money, but if you're going to overpay, it's probably best to overpay someone who fills THE dire point of need. And that he does: interior defense and rebounding, y'all. (He also runs the floor and finishes competently enough, but that's just gravy.)
- Chandler has been generally more efficient when playing with Chris Paul or Jason Kidd as his point guard. His offensive numbers in particular (I'm looking at you, .697 TS% last season) are likely to drop off with whoever the Knicks start at point guard.
- And who's that going to be? Barring a signing of some sort, I'd probably just toss Iman Shumpert out there and see what happens. Then again, I am generally regarded as a delirious sociopath with no grip on reality and may or may not have tattooed an image of Iman Shumpert's face onto my own face.
- Either way, Chandler's offense needn't be much more than finishing when open. The Knicks aren't going to be running many plays for the guy.
- Chandler has an injury history, which is kind of frightening if you're into being frightened. Most recently, it's been his feets and backs. It would be good if he doesn't do any more injuring of himself, just like every other player. One can only hope.
- It's sounding more and more like Chauncey Billups is going to be amnestied. He's pretty pissed about that, which is understandable. On the Knicks' end, amnestying Chauncey after picking up his humongous option is pretty silly, but James Dolan shits money and he's free to do what he likes with his moneyshit. I'm not even remotely upset about the Knicks losing Chauncey, which I'd imagine separates me from some of you guys. I'd obviously be sad to see Turiaf go, but it sure seems worth it.
- Hey, Amar'e got taller! Twin towers, guys!
- Can't wear 6. Landry's got 6. Will he wear 3? I should really stop thinking about things like this until the signing is official.
- God DAMN that's a good frontcourt.
I'll be pretty pleased if this happens, guys, and it really sounds like it's going to. Missing out on Chris Paul would be rough, but missing out on a season of Chris Paul rumors is just about the best thing ever, for us and for the Knicks themselves. Take last year's team, subtract Chauncey Billups, add a top-notch interior defensive presence and a young, unproven, and incredibly exciting alternative to Chauncey Billups and...well, I'd really like that.
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be a while b4 we could trade chandler
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
No want Paul
Keep Landry.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
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also don't really want Howard
too much star power on one team.
The universe would implode.
Miami’s stars don’t count. Bosh is ugly an Lebron is only 12/16ths of the player he used to be.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
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Haha
I’m not counting chickens yet, but I don’t think the Knicks NEED a 3rd star. From what I hear Tyson was the leader of the Mavs’ defense, calling out plays and whatnot. Depending on the contract, I’m really in for this move.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Smdh
C’mon Son
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this may be
the worst comment of all time.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
This full circle stuff...
is interesting. should’ve drafted Amare and should’ve traded for Chandler instead of Curry.
You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you
Should've drafted Eric Gordon too
Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
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I still think Gallo is about as good as Gordon
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Now that Gallo's a non-Knick
I still think that too. Which makes me think that I really believe. JBT in the house, philosodicks!
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Gallo is a better ball handler . . . and he's 6'11, lol
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All of a sudden
This season is looking like a lot of fun.
Now let’s see – perhaps Chandler will wear #21 just to fuck with all of us. He might wear 0.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
0 would be pretty badass
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
He should wear
∞
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Poor Rony has gotten lost in the shuffle...
Going to miss having the frenchman around to make ridiculously over the top reactions to bad calls, good plays, etc. His enthusiasm will be missed, his injuries will not.
It's still pretty sad
I think we’ve all forgotten that for awhile last year, when Ronny got injured, we were like, oh shit, how are we gonna win? Dude would still be great off the bench for us, but ah well.
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
It was stupid how important he was to our team
Definitely the most dependent any team has ever been on Ronny Turiaf, to say the least.
But I mean I think it shows he's a valuable player
Plenty of times he came off the bench in the regular season and dove for a ball or smacked a shot off the backboard and totally got the crowd and team fired up. I think he’s a great center to have off the bench.
Before he got injured too he had a damn good Game 1 in the playoffs.
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I agree...
he brings way more of the intangibles than Jared Jefferies and his attitude and passion for our team were immensely valuable.
Good in the pick and roll too
I’m not sure why we’d lose him, although maybe I should read up on this trade before expressing my ignorance… <clicks "post">
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
he was so, so, so, so unreliable though
miserably unreliable
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As excited as I am about the Stat-Melo-Chandler era,
I can’t see much of a way of beating the new CP3-Kobe-Gasol trio. At least we have a shot at winning the east though.
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Looks like it'll actually be a CP3-Kobe-Bynum trio
that’ll make things a little bit easier
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by bluecheese999 on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think we match up pretty good actually
ill Ty to handle D12/Bynum, Melo>Old Kobe Amare=CP3 (in a convoluted way)
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there is no planet
on which Amar’e = CP3.
You’re talking about an energy power forward who can shoot and finish but has weak handle and defense to the best point guard of our generation.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I think you are slightly over rating CP3 and shitting on Amar'e
They are both MVP level players and Amar’e had a much more dominant season than Paul last year, and who would the Lakers have to match up with Amar’e with Odom possibly gone?
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree.
When healthy, Chris Paul is a God. Stoudemire is great, but he’s no God.
by Osborn on Dec 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Paul is better than Amar'e
but my problem is that Chris Paul is soooooo ball dominant that he is actually rather tough to fit next to other players like Carmelo
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Impossible to prove,
but also not a crazy notion. Ironically, in this case Anthony would do himself a favor to take a lesson or two from Landry Fields in moving without the ball.
I love Chris Paul
but as the summer went on, and I thought about it more, the idea of Deron Williams over Chris Paul started to appeal to me more. I think Paul’s the better player, but Deron’s the better fit because he can play off ball better.
We’re probably not getting either now, but this is just to illustrate my mind set.
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It's true
Derek Fisher let Kobe do what he wanted, because one was Fish and one was Kobe. Will the same be true about Paul?
Compare that to how well Ty potentially fits with STAT and Melo.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
He was a god for us last season
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chris Paul's team won more games in a tougher division with a weaker supporting cast.
I don’t think even last season would cast equal judgment about the total impact of the two players.
Either way, apples to oranges.
I always think David West gets really underrated
Frankly, a lot of Paul’s assists are hockey assists from when West gets doubled in the post. Obviously that wasn’t the case in the playoffs though.
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Shumpty?
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
great idea
can match up with wade with ridiculous athleticism.
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by mindcontrolproject on Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe G.Hill if the rumors are true
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude
If we sign Grant Hill, and we get our chemistry issues together, we WILL win the championship. I honestly think that all we need is a veteran starter, and another bench piece. Adding Grant Hill solves both of those problems
This team really needs Grant Hill without Chauncey Billups here
Who is the veteran presence now? Amar’e is just a kid…a really massive 29 year old kid who is entering his 10th NBA season. Elder statesmen are really important to basketball teams, and Grant Hill is one of the best around. He’d be huge for us.
What would we use?
The MLE?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes... God yes
Veteran’s minimum. Tell Dolan to tell Grant that he’ll make up some new music label and Hill’s wife will be their premier star.
by Edelorbe on Dec 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%
I can see Hill running the point a lot too
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
Hill is insanely smart on the court (and I guess off of it too…. I wouldn’t know). He can run D’Antoni’s system. Especially because Phoenix still basically runs the same shit they did when Pringles was there. Idiots.
Off f it too from what I understand
Which is strange, didn’t he go to Duke???
I kid, I kid (kinda)
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
We don't need a veteran presence
We just need really good players.
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i'm unclear
why do we lose turiaf as a forgone conclusion?
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Don't understand that either
I guess if they amnesty Billups, they won’t have enough money to give Tyson that contract?
I was hoping that we could flip Ronny for another PG
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
We need his $4.4 mill off the books...
In order to be able to pay Chandler.
and what are we doing with turiaf?
are we trading billups and amnesty’ng turiaf?
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I think it's all still up in the air and I don't completely understand myself...
but that’s what I read. Seems to me we would have enough space if we just amnestied Chauncey but I guess not.
I've heard rumors about dealing Ronny to...Denver
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Any idea who we'd get back?
Imagine it was Ty Lawson? Or Aaron Afflalo? I’d shit a brick
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
It would have to be summun cheap,
because the whole point would be to unload enough of Turiaf’s salary to pay Tyson. I don’t know enough about contracts or even numbers to suggest anyone but…a ham sandwich?
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
At least we were spared a year of CP talk and basically taking a year off of improving our team because of only offering one year deals
And regarding a new PG and how to acquire Chandler the best way…
The best way for NY would be a double sign and trade for both Chandler (for Billups) and then JJ Barea (for Turiaf). This would leave us with the MLE (for Hill or even someone better now that we can offer multiple years), the amnesty clause and a solid PG (JJ). I don’t see why Dallas would rather have them leave for nothing then get their replacements who are on one year deals (they’re keeping 2012 cap space).
Also, apparently now contracts can be re-negotiated to spread out the money over more years...
interesting… Could give us some cap space in 2012 with our trio still under contract if they agree to spread out their money over more years. Even without Paul on the market, it would be huge to have 2012 cap space.
i seriously doubt players will pass on new contracts
for longer term, smaller paid versions of their original contracts.
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It only applies to the cap
Players are still paid the same, just the cap hit is spread out.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
So
Even if that player was no longer under contract with the team, you could still theoretically have some of their previous contract on the team because you spread it out?
Am I misunderstanding this?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
That's how I understand it
Although details are still being finalized, so who knows?
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
This is great
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
only the jeff fosters
and nick collisons of the nba will be doing this.
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NFL players do it all the time
If stars can see that a renegotiation can help win a title they will do it
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is Pringles the right coach for this team?
Or will we be seeing Mike Woodson as the interim coach in 2012? I don’t see how D’antonis system works without a PG
There are still some options
TD, Shumpert obviously but other names are out there. Jamaal Tinsley is frequently mentioned, Anthony Carter, Earl Watson, Delonte West, TJ Ford, Sebastian Telfaire, etc.
It’d be amazing if Baron Davis got amnestied and somehow fell through to become a FA. We could make a run at him
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Those are all
Very shitty options for PG. I’m mentally preparing myself for a season without a real PG. Which means that pringles will have to adjust his system, which we all know he can. We also know he is a very stubborn man who is hellbent on proving he can win a champiosnhip with THIS system
Oh, they're not good options
I was just throwing other names out there who might get the job.
I think we should prepare to see Melo handle the ball alot
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Calderon may be amnestied as well
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I mentioned him in the other thread
I’d poop myself if we got him. Dude is a top 5 offensive PG in the game. Look at those shooting numbers!
Woodson is not the answer
but I don’t know how this works either
options I see:
1.) D’Antoni adapts to a new playing style
2.) we somehow pick up a halfway decent PG
3.) Carmelo plays point forward
4.) we get a new coach
I guess option 5 is TD or Shumpert steps up but ehhhhhhh on that one
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I'm becoming a little more comfortable with the idea
In those games that TD started last spring, he averaged something like 16 & 6 didn’t he?
Jamaal Tinsley just got picked up by Utah, so there goes that option, by the way
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
oh TD . . .
He’s just not good enough to make the most important player on this team. It makes no sense when we have two players who are much, much better than him.
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We are doing exactly what everyone here basically asked for
forget the big 3 concept and add pieces….i don’t think we are out on paul by any means but we will have to wait and see.
its not done
i guaranteed you the rockets would want STAT rather than gasol….the same trade could be made with us for STAT and he isn’t a choke artist in the playoffs. I dont believe we are completely out, but i wouldn’t be mad if we went forward with the current plan of adding around our 2 stars either.
by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
You don't like this trade, Osborn?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
It depends on how it all shakes out.
I more so don’t like the mutating-but-strong-as-ever attitude that what we have isn’t good enough until it looks like the Miami Heat or the “New Look” Celtics.
I haven’t been able to buy a Knicks jersey the entire time I’ve been a fan because no one has been on the team for more than three years.
Wow! We got Chris Paul! Now let’s flip him for Deron Williams and cap relief so we can sign Kobe Bryant!
Then, we’ll flip Bryant to a younger team for draft picks and a young superstar!
Then we’ll trade the young superstar for two medium-aged superstars and cap room!
Then, with all the cap room, we can sign a veteran leader who can pass the ball!
Then, we’ll flip Iman Shumpert for a defense three who can shoot, because that’s what ESPN says is best.
Then, we’ll trade that defensive minded ESPN-ready three for a guy who can run the floor!
THEN WE’LL TRADE ’EM ALL AND START AGAIN!
by Osborn on Dec 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fair enough
The potential bright news though:
a.) You could argue we’ll have the best frontcourt in the league (depending on good health that is)
b.) This ties us up long term and pretty much means that there won’t be much shufflinf around besides for maybe some bench players and such
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
This is kind of the opposite of that though
we’re getting rid of Chauncey, but we’re going to be rolling with Melo, Amar’e, and Chandler from now on (although, Chandler is a notch and a half below those other two). No more waiting for another superstar. It’s too bad about Paul, but we are too good and too old to give up another season for a trade.
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what trade?
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Really glad that the Amare trade rumors
seem to have been unfounded. This season is going to kick ass.
We get a good, albeit unexpected free agent acquisition
Plus, we get to keep Landry.
Throw in a little Shump.
A handful of Stat.
And some good old-fashioned pooping, and we got a party.
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Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.
That's a pretty good haul for New Orleans
Questionable from the Rockets’ perspective, though, Scola + KMart for Gasol? Doesn’t quite line up.
What angers me more than anything is that the Magic will trade Dwight for Bynum
Am i the only one who things Bynum is injury prone and just not that good?!!?!?!?!?!?
injury prone
He is good though, but his so-called “potential” is overrated. Bynum can’t be anymore than your 3rd or 4th best player if you’re trying to win a championship.
I really don't agree with this
I see Bynum as a guy who can potentially get 20 and 11 with fantastic percentages. When he’s 28, he’ll be ready to be a second option. Dude needs to find a way to stay healthy though
Don't forget
He’s also an immature jackass. It’s a huge red flag when you have a dude who has a chance to win multiple championships by just playing his part, and would rather go to a shitty team and be their #1 or #2 option. That’s a ridiculously huge red flag. I see Bynum as part of the older ballers: i.e. Iverson & company… guys who are insanely selfish.
i know what you mean
and i agree.
He’s good and all, but he’s overrated. He’s not even better than Tyson Chandler IMO. It’s just that he’s younger.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
He's been only the 3rd or sometimes 4th option on a team.
Nobody knows what he would do if he got the ball regularly.
granted it was years ago
He was the 2nd option on the team before Gasol got there. He basically was Eddy Curry but really good defensively and a good rebounder. Unless your #1 guy is LeBron, Wade, Melo, KD, etc… he has to be your #3 or 4 option. Don’t tell HIM that though; you will get clotheslined. Then he’ll take his shirt off.
he still wasn't the second option.
Do you watch the Lakers? He was seriously neglected by Jackson because Jackson does not like young players. He was not, and has never been a focus of the offense.
IN that year he was 20 years old.
Odom, Fisher and Kobe all averaged more shots and minutes.
Ok fine
You’re right. You do realize that he has never played more than 65 games in a season with the exception of ONE season though, right? That he complains about not getting the ball on a team with Gasol, Odom, and KOBE. That he is more immature than my 10-year old cousin. That this “potential” he might reach has already been reached by guys who have a lot less time in the league. Eventually, you just are what you are. I don’t care if he’s 24 years old, he’s lived enough as a MAN playing as a PROFESSIONAL under the tutelage of Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher, and Phil Jackson for SIX seasons. He’s not going to be an All-Star. He might someday put up 20-10 for a team that wins 32 games in a season. That’s his ceiling.
the point is, aside from injury, he is good.
That was what was under discussion.
Saying that he didn’t take over the league in a season where he was 20 and Jackson was his coach doesn’t really make sense.
He also has out played Dwight in some head to heads, despite not being a focus of the offense. Is bigger than Dwight, even.
Not saying he isn’t flawed. I’m saying: We don’t know his ultimate value.
Oh of course...
Totally agreed. Bynum is a top 10 center in the league. The thing is that there is a huge drop-off between Howard and Bynum. And Bynum thinks he’s a #1 option, and apparently so do plenty of NBA teams. There’s no doubt he’s good.
totally agree. Bynum is flawed.
but also suggest that we don’t know what he could become if he gets the rock all game long. He is a very big and fluid man, and has a mean streak.
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Our front line is going to be SICK!
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BTW
Lakers…..4th game of the year
We will be going up against a front court of Metta World Peace, Matt Barnes, And ?Luke Walton?
(Bynum suspended for game)
maybe its a bold prediction
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
hmmmmmm......
sound familiar. but i thought that was artest???
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Lost in that is the fact that Barea made that shot
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
thats what i thought
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Hold on though
Lakers might not be done here. They can now go ahead and give Orlando Bynum for Howard
Not now
Orlando isn’t ready to give up on signing howard
Davis had knee injuries. otherwise he would have become great.
remember how he used to dunk? the man had hops.
Yea
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Good news for Knicks fans with Paul headed to the Lakers, Baron Davis seems set on NY if Cavs pull trigger. CLE still not 100% committed
There are 28 options...
I think he proved he can at least play kinda well last season. Someone will take him, even if only to be a mentor to their young PG.
oh lol there aren't 28 teams under the cap sorry
The other stuff I said is valid though
Theres only a few teams
Denver, Sacramento, Indiana, New Jersey, Washington, Clippers, NO
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Teams under cap: Denver, Sacramento, Indiana, New Jersey, Washington, Clippers, NO I could see chance all pass on Billups and goes to Heat
hmmm
indiana, washington, clippers…. i dunno. even sacramento. and of course, he’s denver’s own.
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Hard to predict yet
Teams haven’t even officially signed players yet, so final rosters aren’t set. Payrolls could change still, so we’ll see then
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
he can get teammates involved.
and the tempo would be fast. everyone would get shots.
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not a good enough scorer to get any shot attempts in New York
He’d put up 10 assists a game here no problem. He’s smooth controlling a team with a fancy pick and roll game.
He is actually a really good facilitator
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's a great passer too
I’m really big on Baron Davis, doubt we get him, but he’s a great player. In my opinion, he is the most talented (not best) point guard of his generation. Too big, too strong, too fast, too good.
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Thank god we kept Amare
I had just sold myself on looking forward to having Chauncey on the team for the year and now it looks like he’s gone. God I hope the roster has some stability now.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
Yeah wish somehow we could have kept Billups
But just imagine the beginning of games, watching Melo, Amar’e and Chandler go walking out to halfcourt for the jump. It’s gonna be badass
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I love adding Chandler but this doesn't make sense
unless we do a sign and trade with Dallas and get Chandler and Kidd for Billups and Turiaf.
My dad says
PG???? For what?!?!! Sign me for all I care. All the PG has to do is give the fucking ball to Anthony or Stoudemire! Done! How hard can that be?
With all due respect
Your dad doesn’t seem like he knows too much about point guards
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
that doesn't make sense
unless kidd only makes about 5 million
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Kidd makes 8.5 mill
Chandler will make 14.5 = $23 mill.
Turiaf + Billups = $18.56
Under new CBA we can do un-equal trade of up to 50 percent = $27.84
So we can definitely do this.
Only for teams under the luxury threshold of 70 mill a year
Knicks and Dallas are under the luxury threshold.
If Billups is amenstied
Then there’ s no question, we just sign Chandler as a free agent.
But if its a sign and trade than the Knicks need to come up with at least 66 percent salary of Chandler. We don’t have such a player, so we will have to trade Billups to Dallas. In this case Dallas cannot amnesty Billups, so why do they need Kidd for? We add Turiaf to balance the books and that’s it.
well billups makes 14 and chandler is going to make about 15
so.. huh?
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Right.
But picture yourself as the General Manager of the Dallas Mavericks.
“Hey, it’s the New York Knicks. We will give you Chauncey Billups and Ronny Turiaf for Jason Kidd and Tyson Chandler. Now, I know what you’re thinking here: your Championship core is now missing the two pieces it actually needed to bring in to get over the hump, and you’re getting back a past-his-prime point guard who gets paid too much, and replacing the defensive anchor of your team with Ronny Turiaf, who couldn’t even start half his games for the 2008-2010 Golden State Warriors….
But think of how much it helps the Knicks!"
Come on, man.
I don't really see what they can do here
They already gave up on Chandler. The question is whether they get SOMETHING for him, or NOTHING for him.
If they count on Haywood as their starting C, why not add Turiaf as the backup C?
Kidd is older than Billups and both are expiring anyway, so they can still chase Deron Williams next season.
If Dallas planned on repeating, they would have signed Chandler at any cost.
I love this move!
And I’m even happier that we didn’t ship Amare for Paul. If we can get Hill here, I don’t think we need to make any moves. D’Antoni earns his stripes grooming Shumpert as a tall defensive point and we have a special run at this thing – defensive and offensive monsters. GO KNICKS!
can't rely on Shumpert to run the offense this year
I don’t think. It’ll be a pg we bring in or Carmelo’s job
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I really like Chandler
he is what we have needed badly, but I really like Shumpert too, I think we got something there
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If the Lakers don't get Dwight
Which is possible if the Nets offer is better…..they really aren’t that scary at all
The think that I love is that where ever Dwight goes
We will have a guy who can battle him straight up.
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not so sure about this.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
We will have a guy who can pretend that he's battling Dwight straight up
and that’s an improvement.
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I'm still thinking about what their roster would look like
The frontcourt would be devastated…What if Bynum gets injured? It’s game-over for the Lakers
Yeah it's really not that great of a deal for the Lakers
Truth be told, I think the Hornets got maybe the best deal. Right now, they could run out a lineup of Jarrett Jack, Kevin Martin, Trevor Ariza, Lamar Odom, and Emeka Okafor. If they add some depth or resign guys like Belinelli and Carl Landry, their team won’t be half bad
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
That's the best end of the deal?
Sometimes the NBA makes me wonder what these teams are thinking…
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
maybe I should be watching ESPN....
probably a good idea
I know its madness but I'm ok with this.
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Well fuck and breed my tight muscle ass.
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET THIS HAPPEN
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I know Baron Davis is a running joke in the NBA
BUT THIS MAN CAN BALL
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Oh yeah I love the idea too lol
And if he takes a discount you know he’s motivated to come here. Sounds super fresh
Normally I don't like to do the fantasy/2k12 evaluation of teams
but
BDavis
Landry,TD, and/or shumpert
Melo
Amare
Chandler
is a championship roster
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You forgot to add Pujols.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Too soon.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Better.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
That's a huuuuge jump to make,
because we have no idea what kind of shape Baron Davis is in/can be in for this season, much less into the future. Dude’s been getting pretty lardy, and that’s not factoring his injury troubles into it.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't he pretty good in Cleveland?
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be lying if I said I knew.
I’m not totally against getting Baron. He’s a veteran, which may or may not translate to locker room leadership, and at the very least will he be any worse than Andy Rautins? Prolly not. Why the hell not on a one year deal.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's all about motivation with that guy.
When was the last time he had a good team around him and wasn’t mentioned around the trade deadline in the same season?
2007 Warriors
and he . . . WAS . . .DISGUSTING!!!!!
course he only got to the second round, but whatever
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THAT DUNK
best dunk i have ever seen from a point guard not named derrick rose, stephon marbury, or steve francis in my life
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thats just one of the best dunks i've ever seen
regardless of all things, it was just such a remarkable statement.
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he is sooooo underrated athletically
or maybe he’s not athletic anymore . . .
but as a physical specimen he actually shits on Chris Paul . . . he’s like the smaller, point guard version of Lebron with way better handles
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man, Baron used to be all kinds of explosive
I’m not saying he is now what he was ten years ago, but he was a FREAK. Most explosive point guard I’ve ever seen and that includes Derrick Rose (in some ways, Derrick Rose is a better two foot jumper and can get down the court faster, but Baron was faster off of one foot and more explosive from the stand still)
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I think Westbrook is the most explosive point guard Iv'e ever seen
I mean have you seen his first step and the way he leaps in air and slams it home
Matt Mulligan is the worst TE ever
Motivation won't be a problem in New York.
Obviouslyz. I’m just concerned about his health. Fat chicks need love too, but we already have a fair share of sketchy knees.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
He killed us in the garden
And was playing well for the clippers too.
Had a very underrated season last year IMO
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
from what I could tell he looked good last season
kind of fat when we played the clippers but not so much when we played the cavs.
I’m not anti-fat players though. Fat athletic is the best athletic for basketball. Explosive and strong.
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He def played his way into shape with LA
But was invigorated playing with Blake
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's all motivation with him
If he wants to come here, I’m pretty sure motivation won’t be an issue.
Plus the clippers situation for him went bad from the start
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Felton is/was fat
And he’s still pretty damn quick, and didn’t miss a single game for us
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm over the moon with joy right now.
So happy we don’t have to deal with CP3 BS now.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
really?
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
A-fucking men.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
It was never really a realistic option
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Some bad news, looks like we won't be getting Grant Hill after all
Free agent Grant Hill is expected to choose a team this afternoon, according to a league source. The source said Hill will decide between the team where he has played the past four years, the Phoenix Suns, and a newly emerged contender: the San Antonio Spurs.
One thing the source ruled out: "It won’t be New York."
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I hate him too
unless he signs with tje Knicks.
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Davis
If we can’t get him, someone we have now.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
This was probably the only guy that every single one of us were in agreement about wanting to come here
in the end, that article was just a fabrication piece by an antsy little journalist
soooooo
Does Tyson count as part of a “Big 3?”
by espnsucks ((banned)) on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions
Who gives a crap about a 'big 3'
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by Ozraider on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lmao
The big 2.5…just like Miami!
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a big dump?
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
No one on that team can guard amare either.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
He is very, very big
that is for sure . . . we are going to have the biggest guy on the court most games from now on. Haven’t been able to say that for awhile (oh yeah, Curry, whatever)
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if bosh is
then chandler is.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
I might be missing something...
But if we get rid of Billups and Ronny in a sign and trade for sign Chandler, wouldn’t we be 2 mil under the cap?
It’s at 58 right now, we’re at 60. Chauncey + Ronny is 18 mil, Chandler is 14 mil. We’d drop down to 56. Unless, I guess, Turiaf hasn’t picked up his option yet. If I’m right though, can’t we get Davis through amnesty waivers?
Possibly
Still gotta sign Shumpert and Harrellson though
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
True...
I have no idea if the new CBA changed this but usually you could sign your rookies “last”…you don’t have to factor them into your cap decisions during “offseason” time, and then you automatically sign them to whatever scale deal that is set up.
So now the Knicks' priorty becomes
1) breaking Wilson Chandler out of China and
2) coming up with a hokey name for the Chandler brothers’ television show (they’ll be brothers in the show)
by XLII on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
From @notmikedunleavy
Between CP3, Bynum, and Kobe, the Lakers will have 3 good knees.
Funny
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It's funny cuz Bynum's on the Hornets
by espnsucks ((banned)) on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
or is there
some new form of teh deal
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gasol departed
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
not like chandler and amar'e have been all that healthy themselves though . . .
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What's everybody's prediction for Clyde's nickname for Tyson?
I can’t think of any :(
Good thing he has a week or two to come up with something.
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in the vein of "wil the thrill" chandler
tyson “the bison” chandler
by latrell chokewell on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
BAHAHA
AHAHAHAHA
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
This is truly hilarious when you picture Clyde's voice saying it
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i just wanna know how he will be anounced?
will it be like wilson? or more of an emphisses on the wilson
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
The Lakers are about to make their own Melo trade i.e. arguably giving up too much for chris paul...
Odom AND Pau Gasol out Cp3 in
Hornets get dragic, scola, odom, kevin martin
rockets get gasol…..
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811
if this goes through…hornets just pulled off one of the best trades ever
Lakers get better..maybe
Rockets crash and burn.
Soo much potential
Hasn’t been able to put it together yet though. Besides for that one quarter in the Spurs series
Plus they drafted
Montejuanas and one of the Morris twins. And last year they drafted Patrick Patterson and they also have Jordan Hill? Are they just collecting PFs?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
they're collecting advanced stat gems
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
boooooo
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Back at ya fellow Knick fan!
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
hehe
He doesn’t know I’m a Netsdaily spy.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I looked at your profile beforehand....you lie!
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
only if we then trade Chandler
for B. Griffin and C. Kaman
by latrell chokewell on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
*then trade Howard
ruined a perfectly good joke :(
by latrell chokewell on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lol its hot in here!
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
We can forget about those Tinsley rumors now, he's going to Utah
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217175/Tinsley_Agress_To_Terms_With_Jazz
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I'd rather get Baron anyway.
But secretly, I don’t want them to sign any PG.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
But, but but
What if Baron could theoretically show Shumpy the ropes when it comes to pushing an offense! Waahooo!
I actually am just afraid of going into the season and expecting too much from Toney and Iman at the point. Shumpert could have a Landrian season, but more than likely he wont.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
The man's got a point
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can you imagine baron throwing oops to Shump?
#orgasm
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
i'm envisioning double alley oops
baron to shumpert to chandler. 5 on 5 nba jam
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Zacktly.
And I’m sure if we head into the season with a TD/Shump/Andy Rautins monster at PG, Shump will get over exposed and then jizzed on by the media and well, probably some of us for not playing as well as we expect outta him.
Except he’s a rookie! Playing point guard for the Knicks! Can’t expect MVP numbers out of him (or any of those three) in that situation, but regardless I don’t want his confidence to be attacked because of it.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you’re right. Baron or otherwise, I’m sure they’ll sign someone. Shump won’t be hung out to dry. (Toney neither).
baron davis can ball ya'll
and i’m sorry but we would have depth too.
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Baron > Tinsley
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tinsley > Jared Jeffries
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Potato chips>Jeffries>Rose
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Science.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
One of the best reply chains I've ever seen on P&T
Sorry to ruin it with this comment
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid of Baron's health, too tho!
I’m afraid of everything!
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, c'mon, I assume you two you want Shump and TD to get their shots, but Davis is good process.
Minimal commitment and if it doesn’t work out, we bench him for one of the other two. It would be fun to throw Shump into the fire, but it’s too risky.
We def need someone to feed amare and melo, baron fits that role perfectly.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see if Andy/Shump/TD can fill the role themselves.
I’ve always loved younger players.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
TONEY GOTTA EAT
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
do we go triangle if we can't get a real pg?
That really stretches Tyson’s abilities though. Maybe he can be taught to pass. Amar’e doesn’t have a back-to-the-basket game but think he’s a good enough face-up player and passer to work it out
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We'll have no choice when Phil Jackson comes to coach here. Ugh just the thought of all the BS rumors to this in the press makes me cringe.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Mike's a pro . . . he can have this team run a triangle
we do run it when Carmelo and Amar’e isolate at times
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
howdy
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
Wait a second, could we a ctually have a complete team with two stars?
Unexpected Thursday.
In Donnie we trust.
We should thank Chris Paul for this.
Since he made his intentions clear and also didn’t want the Hornets to get fleeced, the Knicks are out of the running immediately; we refocus and as a result are probably better off.
I agree
No more f’ing around . . .
I was optimistic until the CBA came out and it was pretty clear that there was no way we’d get him in free agency. There’d be wayyyyy too much money for him to lose
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The big question in my opinion is how Turiaf figures into all this
We can’t amnesty both Billups AND Turiaf, and waiving Turiaf doesn’t affect our cap situation so it’s pointless.
If Turiaf’s name is brought up, then it’s a trade. But he cannot be the only piece going to Dallas in a possible sign and trade because the numbers don’t add up for neither team.
So it’s either a separate deal (another team or even Dallas – but has nothing to do with us picking up Chandler as a free-agent), OR he is included in the sign and trade deal for Chandler and we are picking up another player: Either Kidd or Barea.
That’s the only thing I can think of.
maybe we can keep turiaf??
i wouldn’t be mad, i like that guy
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basically
if we just amnesty billups to sign tyson, that only gives us 11.2 million in cap room. the problem is that we sort of promised chandler that his contract would be 14.5 mil a year. so we need to move turiaf, since he makes 4.3 mil and we can use that to keep our promise. otherwise, tyson just says eff you and goes to the Warriors.
expect turiaf to be traded to a team under the cap for something worthless, like a protected second round pick or a trade exception.
by latrell chokewell on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ahem
More likely he’ll be packaged with one of OUR 2nd rounders.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Billups was set to make $14 million something
So wouldn’t we have $14 million something to spend on Tyson?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
yea but dallas
doesnt want to take back billups contract.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
The worst thing for Shumpert
Would be to be forced to run a complex offense in his rookie year. He was turnover prone in college. I think he can be great (even as a pg one day) but I don’t think this would be good for his development.
Ideally, he would be a 2 who defends, hits shots, runs the floor and brings energy and occasionally creates his own shot
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if we get no one
Toney Douglas will start at the point. You can set that nearly in stone.
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Yeaaaaa....no
Matt Mulligan is the worst TE ever
I think TD's gonna really step his game up this year
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well a whole lot better then Imani ever could this season
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sup free.
And who is out there as far as mid level / low cost pgs that would fit here??
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I looked this up - it's not pretty - but....
Earl Watson, TJ Ford, Carlos Arroyo, Delonte West, Anthony Carter, Mike Bibby, Sebastian Telfair.
And call me crazy… but sign Jamal Crawford to run the offense as a combo guard…..?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
I like none of those
I say we just let Rautins run the point for a while. He can really knock em down
Why not Shump?
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Potential and theoretically
Not two words that inspire too much confidence
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Have you ever watched Rautins play in the NBA?
He was a brickfest and could barely dribble the ball against the defense
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
we need to make a move towards one of minnesotas 10 pgs
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
rubio!
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
Jamal as a 4th option?
If he’s down, I’m down. Also, we know he’s good with the oops.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
With his health, who knows how good he could be?
He should have approximately 10,000,000 wide open shots this season to prove he’s a professional shooter.
And I subjectively think his defensive style works great with a great big lane-clogging, shot-blocking center.
OMGOMGOMGOMG
I just woke up!
We getting Chandler? No CP3 rumors? OMGOMGOMG
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I woke up the same way. Welcome to the party, it's nice here :-).
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
i lost all respect for u with the use of OMG
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn't care less who you respect
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why
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Because your signature is too big
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
how so
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I've been gone too long lol
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
#classicrorschachresponse
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
wait saying u “couldNT care less” is like saying you could care.
awww
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
???
The phrase “couldn’t care less” means you’ve already reached that absolute lowest amount of caring, and can’t go any lower. Not sure why people always get this confused, although on the other hand, I couldn’t care less.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well played sir, well played.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
People always make this mistake. Saying “I could care less” implies that you care a little more than you possibly could
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pretty much
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
but in the literal sense it makes none
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
All and all, I'm quite content.
Glad to see Chauncey “Oh-shit,-I-have-the-ball,-time-to-chuck-an-inappropriate-three-and-give-Thelonious-a-heart-attack” Billups on his way out.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
i liked chauncey
but i’d rather have tyson chandler… i just did not see that as a possibility.
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I’m petty enough to hold a grudge against Chauncey for annoying me tho
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
yea Carmelo is enough of the 'see rim and chuck' type players
I’ve had my fill of burps
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pretty good.
free championship ride
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
The netsdaily guys are talking about buying out Wilson Chandler (super upsetting)
because he wants to be “back in the NY area” based on this:
http://www.hoopsworld.com/500000-buyout-for-nba-players-in-china/
is this legit?
me too
they’re all referring to him as Ill Will, its kinda hard to take
by ubd on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's bc they hang out here all day
Ugh they’re the worst, Wil would never accept money to entertain the likes of THEM.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that's legal
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So the Chris Paul deal is done but we're still waiting on Tyson CHandler... : /
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
You guys got Chandler
im sure Orlando would listen to a package centered around Amare but at this point LA, Chicago, NJ have you guys beat
I wouldn't include LA in there
Bynum vs. Amare? I don’t think anyone chooses Bynum.
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Yeah i agree actually
Bynum can’t even stay healthy. It’s always “this guy could be so good” but he never even plays 60 games. I don’t see anything special about him. I would take Lopez, Amare, Noah, over him
That would be redundant . no?
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Who does NJ have?
Other than Williams, and Howard doesn’t want to play in Brooklyn all by himself. Might as well stay in Orlando.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry Laker Fans....
Until you get Dwight…..your team does not scare me what so ever.
by michael28102 on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I kind of agree with this.
I know Chris Paul is a top 5 player in the league, but the Lakers may have just gotten worse. Who do they plan on starting at Power Forward?
a big question mark
once their Front line was their strength. Now much less so, even if they trade for Dwight.
eh
howard makes ryan anderson look like a good rebounder.
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yea nah
but i’m saying gasol and odom versus howard and anderson… i’m not sayin anything, i’m just sayin
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no, the proper comparison would be:
Bynum, Gasol, Odom vs. Dwight, Anderson and Bass
Orlando uses PFs to shoot threes actually.
alright i can dig it.
i still think howard is equal to any 2 of them. that is if we are talking strictly about boards.
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on the boards yes.
there are other things that a PF can do though. And both Gasol and Odom were unique.
oh believe me i agree
i thought we were talking about boards. to me, odom is the best player of the bunch. but you know, what do i know?
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cp3 iz the best in the league
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure theyre in play for Paul.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh I mean HOWARD.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
I was gonna say....
Anyway, who are they gonna trade for Howard? Bynum straight up? Doubt it.
bynum and artest and matt barnes
and luke walton and every draft pick until the year 2202
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You mean every OTHER draft pick.
Can’t do it every year, haha.
the Knicks figured out a way to do that
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and the other ones they traded on rain check
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But how many of our first rounders are still on the team?
We traded every one, just some after drafting them.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see why the Magic would want Bynum anyway
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Because Bynum is better than nothing.
Or is it?
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
"We don't want their old garbage"
The Magic said they would let Howard walk before talking the “old garbage” the Lakers were offering them
Really? That's kind of stupid IMO.
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Gasol and Odom were 2 of the 3 biggest reasons the Lakers were good anyway
as a team, it wasn’t Kobe. It was their height. They had 3 7fters, one of which was a point forward. And no Phil? Get the fuck out.
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yea i have always wanted odom on the knicks
i would play him at the starting point guard too.
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Completely agree with this
It was downright intimidating to play against bynum-gasol-odom-kobe-whoever… They were just way too big. They just lost this. I’m guessing that nw they’ll be running and gunning.
and Kobe will be jacking up bricks like no one's business
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as per amnesty players
teams are required to pay at least 46 a year, so teams under the cap, might be interested in just acquiring contracts to meet the mandate (PAUSE?) and why not have the best player regardless of fit.
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MLE top 5 list...
to go with our big 3 (and l’il 4… shumpty, jorts, landry, TD)
1- grant hill
2- kurt thomas/tony battie
3- j. richardson/reggie williams
4- ronnie price/carlos arroyo
5- earl clark/josh mcroberts
i'm down for any of them
but i dislike battie and ronnie price, and arroyo reminds me of this kid i grew up with that i still want to punch in the face.
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by stingy d on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No Arroyo. Just cus I don't want the Garden looking like a Cotto fight.
(love PRicans, hate the flagging)
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by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Woah!
J-Rich for the MLE? Sign me up! lmao..dude will be pulling in 7-8mil this season, although is market is really, really weird atm.
Seems like Grant Hill's headed elsewhere
Kurt Thomas would be neat, but maybe a bit redundant now. Jason would also be fun, but do we need another shooter? Rather have a distributor. I vote Vassilis Spanoulis; I heard we ordered game tape on him.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
redundant?
Never. Good interior defense/rebounding is never redundant. Good basketball teams build from the inside out
when you think about it...
we’re going to be running short on shooters.
who’s left? TD? shawne?
though yeah, a distributer is warranted.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just getting picky,
but with what we’ll have after the Chandler deal, a distributor will be arguably more useful than another knockdown shooter. I don’t wanna end up paying Richardson if the ball never gets to his hands because it’s going through Amar’e and Carmelo more often than not.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh god
I went to an Indiana-knicks game in 2010 I believe (or 2009) and he absolutely killed us. Him and Dunleavy. He did all of this while flirting with the cheerleaders too. It was embarrassing.
i didn't go
but i remember that game. it was, shall we say, deflating.
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Yup
That will always be the image imprinted in my brain of him. No matter how much he sucks. He was flirting with OUR cheerleaders, on OUR court, and KILLING us. I hate him.
what about Wilson Chandler?
Grant Hill already said he isn’t signing with NY its between Suns and Spurs
by ubd on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
he'd fit perfectly as...
a backup offensive 4.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
i wish! oh lord
wilson would make us too much to handle
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Wha about Shawne Williams??
Dude had a great season last year, let’s not put Jorts ahead of him quite yet…
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
agreed...
young, long, athletic with skills
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Did this happen?
Or are you just proposing it?
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone seeing Cp3 as a terrible fit for the lakers?
I mean i can see it when Gasol and Odom were on the team..but Bynum is pretty underwhelming and Kobe is getting older and doesn’t really need a passer like CP3.
with Mike Brown as the coach?
hell yea it is. But they’ll still be really good, until Bynum goes on IR.
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yea this team is gonna have a very clear weakness
and they will have trouble with teams like the kings. who will suck, but will get lots of offensive rebounds.
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I saw him as a terrible fit for the Knicks too
I’d love him if we had a deep team that he could maximize, but we don’t.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
he and Melo are not ideal
Carmelo should have the offense run through him, but Chris Paul should also have the offense run through him. So what to do? You make Carmelo continue to be Mr. Bailout Shot Taker which is not utilizing his full strengths.
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I really love him as a player
It’s just I was really having my doubts as him as a knick . . . he would be great to put next to amar’e though
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But shitty next to Melo
We need a PG that can hit the mid-range which will open up the p&r, which this PG can also handle. Thoughts? Calderon?
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
he could be a knick next summer
wouldn’t be surprised at all
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Knicks need to finalize this deal!!
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
this is exciting
this makes us much much better i think. curious to see how it plays out all told.
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I've flipped my position
I want Baron. Badly. I also want Shawne just as much.
Stainer of mountaintops.
yes!
extra e and the baron! and we got a VERY complete squadron.
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Imagine Ill Will, Baron, and Shawne on the same team.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Nice visual
You forgot about Shump though!
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Dude that's awful.
Where did you find it?
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
BAAAHAHAHAA!!!!!
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ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
what a fantastic mess
i think this would be the norm here in P&T
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by mindcontrolproject on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I hope that isn't what I think it is
Matt Mulligan is the worst TE ever
yea I'd love to have Boom here
I’ve been growing out a beard in unknowing anticipation too
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i get your no...
but he’d be interesting now. in theory, young, defensive, fast penetrating distributor.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
and nobody on this team
not even rautins, would respect him.
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rautins is the least respectable dude in the atlantic division
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Let's think of it this way.
Andy Rautins, I hope you’re not reading this, but you put the “Stink Dick” in “Basketball.”
aw c'mon stingy...
rautins has a chance.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
to be a solid 3rd string PG...
actually. i do think he’s got ingredients. quick release. size. vision and decent quicks.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
yea...
i dunno, sure i see what you’re getting at, but i just don’t see it. i think he’s a bust.
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A 2nd round pick can be a bust?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
On no planet does Andy Rautins have quicks bro.
Dude couldn’t D-up a fleshlight.
by Osborn on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was referring to the jumpshot, I swear!!!!!
………………and that they’re both white. And no one respects them. THERE! I said it.
Jones is 6"8, skrawny and hunts rabbits
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Intriguing
But don’t you think Minny will hold on to him, just to reach that $46mil mark?
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
If the Lakers don't get Dwight
Awful trade by them
how is that awful?
They kept bynum and of course kobe
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
They lost what made them so good
Depth all the way around.
Paul Kobe Artest and 30 games of bynum is worse than Kobe Odom Gasol Artest 30 games of bynum.
The only thing I am really worried about
is Chauncey ending up in Miami, he wanted to go there for the minimum if the Knicks bought out his contract last year and now it seems inevitable
The only thing inevitable
Will be Chauncey chucking up threes with Bosh, Wade, and LBJ wide open.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Impossible
he would have to clear all the teams that are under the cap first. I doubt no team wants him.
and i kinda bet he is going to be traded
if for no reason other than to make sure he goes to a good ball club
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Chauncey will be jacking up bricks wherever he goes
so who cares
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you know that Chauncey has had many seasons of 40%+ 3 point shooting and 90%+ free throw shooting, right?
He’s a legit shooter
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good for him.
I also saw him play for the Knicks last year, thanks.
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whhhhahttttteeeevvvveeerrrrrrrrrrrr
his percentages were down for TWO MONTHS. How that overrides a decade’s worth of evidence is beyond me.
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a decade's worth of evidence says pullups pulls up all the damn time
if you want to ignore that, that’s on you but I’m glad dude is 2 month and out.
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i would call up memphis and
i would like grevis vasquez. or OKC with Eric Maynor.
New York Giants 2011.
see what they would want for *
New York Giants 2011.
by redwhitblue88 on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
maynor would be a genius steal...
shit, let’s get d fisher over here now.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
uhhh no
i think. Its not like we need shooting guards
so CAN iman
if we’re playing that game. but it will come with a lot of turnovers.
Sigh why do you torment me with your 4:1 ratio CP3?
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Iman's a rook, let him show his ass first
Roy’s a proven go to scorer who’s played the point in crunch time in Portland.
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he has the knees of a 60-year-old
but other than THAT
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I'm sorry if I'm being rude to you
but you’re frequently rude to me when I’m not even talking to you, so you know .
but yeah, you’re wrong. he has horrible knees that would have been replaced already if he weren’t trying to keep his career going as long as possible and he cannot be a starter in the NBA anymore. So I dunno why he would be the answer at point guard. I say this as a fan of Brandon Roy. It’s tragic. But so was what happened to TMac and Penny Hardaway. Doesn’t make it less real.
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Roy is still playing
he’s not forced into retirement like Tmac and Hardaway. Also he just came off the fucking injury last year, no one’s the same that soon after the injury and that’s being real.
If they had to be replaced, they’d be replaced. You’re just going along with the media narrative that tells you his knees are bad, despite looking at the fact he play 27 minutes/game last year, a number that went up the whole year.
It takes time to come back from an injury. He didn’t even miss an entire season, like most players do. So lets just be real, realize you have no idea what you’re talking about and move on.
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I'm sorry but you're completely wrong
he played a ton of minutes toward the beginning of the year and then they had to be monitored carefully after the surgery
And ESPN’s reporting that he’ll be announcing his retirement possibly today. I don’t know where you get your information from, but I read every story I could about Roy last fall and EVERYONE has been saying for a year that his knees are bad and are not going to get any better. I’m not surprised at all that he’s retiring. It’s a very sad situation for him
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roy can't even play
love his game but he’s not dependable at all
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how does one know how his rehab is going?
The Blazers are saying they won’t even amnesty him.
Sure, there is doubt. But…
I took a special interest in Roy last season
his knees are really f’ed up. There’s no getting better. He can’t get microfracture because it would require months of rehab and that tissue would just wear down after a few months of playing anyway. He can’t get knee replacement because that’ll completely end his career. All he can do is play a few games, rest, play a few games, rest. He cannot play a full season or even close to it anymore.
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I love Brandon Roy's game
so I was really upset about this last year, but it is what it is
and Chris Paul’s knees are not nearly as bad for what it’s worth
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no idea . . . his contract is very expensive and uninsured though so maybe they want to get whatever they can out of it
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it looks like the answer is because he's likely retiring
should have guessed that
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armon johnson? nolan smith?
they’ve got ray felton for crying out loud.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Ray Ray back in a heartbeat
I’d actually be ecstatic!
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
the clips have some spares...
mo williams, randy foye and eric bledsoe
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
might be able to get foye
not sure we want him tho
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
true
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 8, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Unless NY is planning on amnestying Billups and then signing Chandler as a FA, the reports that Billups & Turiaf have go doesn't make sense
If it’s s&t then the money is a straight swap of what Billups is earning and what Chandler wants. If it’s a matter that Dallas just won’t s&t for Billups then that’s understandable.
Though now NY no longer wants Grant Hill because they are shedding salary. And if they get Turiaf, then they better be looking to add another legit player, not another fistful of barnacles.
This only adding one player at the expense of another player crap doesn’t work. I suffered through it for several years with Melo in Denver.
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Obviously good is a relative term
But I thought his time with the Warriors and Clippers were positive.
If we get him, I spend my christmas break in sexual ecstasy
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
He really can
he’s been dicking around the past few years, but if he’s playing on a real team he’ll behave
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he averaged 7 with the clippers
and 6 with the cavs last year. the cavs were pretty bad.
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Baron is better than Chauncey
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I would live, but no
he can run a pick and roll, but he can’t really run an offense
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but come to think of it
if dantoni is serious of letting melo to became a triple-double machine hell let melo run the offense for us thats why we let billups go, so i think iman, td and carter (is he still with us) is enough for our point guard position.
he can run a triangle for real
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it's the amar'e/chandler part you have to worry about there
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melo can run pick and roll
and you got two monster guys do drop the ball to.. and guards will be the wing man spotting for 3.. just a thought ..
I don't know if Carmelo should be a real point forward though
you can run the offense through him and have him play triangle play maker, but he ain’t magic or grant hill . . . but yeah, he can run some pick and rolls some possessions
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I dont see hi as a long term starter on a good team
great 6th man but i think that is his destiny
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Damn it
I was really looking forward to watching Billups play with this Knicks team. He was our best option at point guard and is still a very good player.
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It simply wasn't meant to be
The best we could do is to sign Iverson to the league minimum. A few years ago, he was one of the best players in league, surely he has to have something left in the tank
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
we cant.
amnesty players have to be passed on by all teams under the cap.
plus the team who performs the amnest cannot resign the guy for 1 year i believe
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
If Amare is now 6"11 and 260 pounds
20 pounds heavier and somehow miraculously an inch taller
He will now dunk with a force so powerful it will make Zeus jealous
Landry Fields is a way of life
lol, he's 6'8.5 and 245
he used to be a lot bigger before the microfracture . . . so much potential back then because he was developing a back-em-down post game
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unless he said fuck it my knees are fine
and gained weight over the summer
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If Amare wants to tell us he has become bigger and stronger than he already was
then I choose to believe him, but I’m a glass half full kinda guy
Landry Fields is a way of life
he could have put on weight I guess
do you remember in 2005 how he looked? He was freaking huge. Always the biggest, strongest guy on the court which allowed him to be a disaster in the paint. He had to start staying trimmer after the knee injury though for the sake of his health and to maintain explosion.
Maybe a miracle occurred and he found out he could put weight back on. Or maybe Amar’e’s just bsing like he has a tendency to do.
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off topic, but did y'all know shumpy's listed at like 240 or something like that
that is a MASSIVE guard
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what's one below 'meta'?
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nope
or at least very unlikely
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
He’s committed to somewhere else. We’re focusing on Baron now.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Were not focusing on Baron
Baron is focusing on us.
The beard is... hypnotic
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It truly would be a good replacement for Ronny's.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
We need at least one good beard on the team
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What
Other options do we have. I’d like to have Chris Paul or Deron Williams, but that isn’t going to happen. Baron Davis is an All-Star calliber player and is our best option
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
options?
FA’s- tj ford, chalmers, pooh jeter, antonio daniels, ronnie price, earl watson.
trades?- a clipper spare (randy foye, mo williams, eric bledsoe), a cleveland spare (ramon sessions, boobie gibson), a portland spare (armon johnson, ray ray, nolan smith), dj augustin? calderon? bayless?
anyone but baron… he’s a scorer with a big ego… not what we need.
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
he doesnt have an ego issue.
he has been a blue collar. great team guy for the clippers
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Ford signed with the Spurs
Chalmers is staying with the Heat.
"not a winner" is total and complete B.S.
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I just said that I would be sexually excited if Baron were to be a Knick
but even I have to admit he can be a total loser at times. He’s a winner when he’s in the right mood though
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I think that the proper term then is "erratic"
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lazy is another good word
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
It's got the Tampa Lighting in the right mood right now
There has so much fighting and penalties over the last 10 minutes that I’ve completely lost track.
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Grant appears to be a sailed ship
But if the Chandler deal went through then you could offer more years to Hill for less money since the 2012 Major FA signing would not happen
MLE
Bi-annual exception
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
very true...
and can’t he run the point a bit?
by bucketsncents on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
so we lost only burps?
we have this season for sure is:
G ACarter?/Iman
SG landry/TD
SF melo/poope
PF amare/jared
C tyson/turiaf/jj/ jorts
possible addition ?
grant hill?
Hill's not happening.
Baron is the most likely addition in my eyes.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I would like CAHTAH back
apparently Hill is not coming
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I would welcome back CAHTAH
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Imagine how excited Mike Breen would be to have him back....
so he could tell the Anthony Carter Basketball Hustler story another 30 times this season!!!
And poopE isn't for sure our's.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I've heard Memphis has some interest.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
yea
hopefully he has learned that his hometown is the wrong place to be tho
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Plus iRepShawneWill3 is still yapping at him to stay, so that has to mean something.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
get the fuck at me
lets settle this face to face
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
He just twat
A 13-tweet long to-be-continued type tweedle. Also, the back and forth between @marvin_williams the middle-manager spam-bot and iRep are pretty epic as well. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
by superturboultra on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see him ask for two Christmas day tickets from Shawne?
Hilarious.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
that guy is an asshole
XD
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probably
but i think it would mean we don’t get chandler
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because we'd have to take his contract as-is?
But if we get him after amnesty, he’d be a lot cheaper?
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well...
if we get davis, two things have to happen, first cleveland has to amnesty him. and second, every team that is under the cap has to not claim him off waivers.
and i guess part three is he has to actually agree to terms with the knicks.
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you dick in the butt right!
i want those boys! call me bernie fine!
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no! its not likely, dantoni wouldnt take him
you are just saying that because we really need a pg.
hes not a douchebag though
more just lazy and unmotivated at times…I think he’s well liked by players
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last year
looked like he turned a corner from a talented star, to a savvy vet.
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we need a win now mentality..
id rather picked up arenas for baron all day
lol just saying.. im staying with iman as our starting pointguard this season
the heat is succesful with chalmers so it think we can try that too.
What type of offense does the Heat run?
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none.
but i still believe dantoni can use melo as pointforward. also td can run our offense occasionally with him
It doesn't get better than that
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can't Iman play one minute before he's our starter?
its almost certain he’s as incapable of running the offense as Toney douglas was when he was a rookie. Do you really want that?
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wait...Arenas, who's washed up or Baron..who's just unmotivated when he plays on shit teams?
I think that says about it all.
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is there any reason Pringles wouldn't want Baron?
other then completely making that up?
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I'm a fan of getting Chandler for NY, even having to overpay him
But if NY keeps with cost cut to afford Chandler what may happen is
Chandler/Jeffries for Billups/Turiaf and NY is out of the 2012 FA sweepstakes
That’s a stinky deal. If you’re going after Chandler then build up the other roles too but save enough $$ for 2012 MLE and not worry about 2012 big FA.
I’m not a big Turiaf fan; but him off the bench spelling Amare & Chandler with a some Jeffries thrown in would be a very good fit
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
But wait
Does this officially mean that we have no chance to sign wither Paul or Williams should they make to to free agency in 2012?
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST reply actions
yes!
and I just nutted all over myself!
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Most messed up comment I've read on this site.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much, too many unrealistic things would need to happen
What FA chasing money for next year was coming mostly from Billups & Turiaf’s contracts
Melo’s $18m + Amare’s $18m + Tyson’s $14m = no FA cashola next year other than MLE & Bi-annual
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
GUYS
watch the video on the home page of tyson chandler’s website.
it is at once ludicrous and inspiring.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST reply actions
whoa
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 8, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
This makes me want to ban him from the Knicks
and give him a lifetime contract to play for the Knicks all at the same time
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by Russ on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yep, pretty much the way i felt when i watched it
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Also can we just go ahead and bring Jerome Jordan over already?
The situation for him to grow and develop on the current roster just got a whole lot better, and that would give us a TON of size.
i’m so excited that we are about to have the most intimidating 3-4-5 in the league. it’s the kind of team i’ve always wanted.
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by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST reply actions
yea we need a team mascot!
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we do!
we’re losing turiaf!
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
its like the early 90s knicks
but this version of charles smith is fucking incredible!
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Sometimes staying Euro is better
Jordan, if he has any real NBA skills may learn more playing a lot of minutes overseas than riding the pine in NY. Young players do not develop in the NBA; either you have the skills or you don’t.
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
i hear ya
but i also understand that if we don’t bring him over this season, another team can sign him…isn’t that the case?
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
no, not unless NY gives up his rights
If you have the rights to a player and they are overseas you keep their rights.
I’m more concerned about his demands to be on the roster or demand a trade. You can’t teach height but there may be some maturity issues blocking his growth
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
Stern finally playing that Knicks fan card!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Rumor on twitter.
Not really credible. Possible.
Many different ideas out there.
1. Lakers didn’t get enough
2. N.O. ran by NBA
3. Stern doesn’t want to look like he’s giving the Lakers Paul
Just some ideas.
Realist.
How can #3 be true is the Lakers are not getting enough?
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*if the Lakers...
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1) means the money involved
3) Stern could give a shit about
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Has nothing to do with that
The Hornets are up for sale, and why would ANYONE buy them after they just traded their superstar without having a say in things.
by espnsucks ((banned)) on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
That's true too.
But Paul is leaving anyway. Why would anyone buy them with zero talent at all?
That makes less sense.
Realist.
These billionaires like the poky have huge egos. They think just cuz they have $ power etc. they can “boss people around” just by their desires.
by espnsucks ((banned)) on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Marc Stein on twit
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: “The deal is off.”
UGH
If we don’t sign Tyson the bison tomorrow, I’m gonna write the biggest hissy fit.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
World of Warcraft
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
haha
that was so classic.
it got an RT from me
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
where is that being reported?
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
c'mon yo I gotta take a shit!
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If they could/would snag Grant Hill that would've been good
Grant Hill cancels out Battier
Chandler/Amare/Melo vs Bosh/LeBron/Wade? In 3 years I’d give the nod to Miami. Next year, if they had Hill, I’d go Knicks.
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
Why can't we get Hill
He’s 40 years oldm how much can he cost?
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks can, it's just whether they choose to spend or not
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Contenders do; pretenders give excuses why they did not"
"Yes everybody does have an opinion; but that does not make your opinion any less wrong"
"That ought to stop your bitchin"
"And, please remember, ignorance is not a defense"
https://twitter.com/#!/Amareisreal/status/144958784937279488
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
he said his posture got better
it’s somewhat possible if he was working with a physical trainer or chiropractor all summer on his back
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I hope they finalize the Chandler deal soon
I spent the last few hours convincing myself Chandler was worth it.
by lololol on Dec 8, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Injury history is the only snag I can see.
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
nice user name
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i actually think its a good one
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
yea i know
i was just thinking about our shortage of a guy running the offense. But Chandler will be hell of a rebounder and defensive presence.
Probably more a Nate McMillian when he came in the league
Which, if so, would be pretty huge
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
He's not
Chris Paul, on the other hand, is
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
After watching Nene the last 9 years
Chandler is a much better fit for NY than Nene
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
what do you guys think about the lakers?
they have
cp3 – bryant – bynum
bynum is kept for dwight howard trade in the future.. this kinda scares the hell out of me and also scares the heat.
lets compare
LA : cp3 – kobe – meta – bynum
Knicks : melo-amare-chandler
heat: wade-james-bosh
Unbelievable
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“The deal is off,” a source involved in the talks tells Y! Sports. “It’s dead.”
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I dont get this, seems like the league is going to force CP3 to play out the season and leave in free agency
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Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
I just think it opens up the door
For another smaller market team to get him
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
so he can leave there in free agency?
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Not saying I agree
I’m just guessing as to what their logic is for calling it off
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Completely off topic
but whiskey is awesome.
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I've been drinking Buffalo Trace tonight
and some George Dickel #12
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Unprecedented doesn't even begin to describe
Blockbuster trade CANCELED by the owners!
we cant afford both
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Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
I'd hate for Karma to bite me on this one but....
YYYEYAAAAHHHH
working on it
by BlackRican08 on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
this makes no sence
how is NO going to get a better deal than this?
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Better deal for the Lakers.
Meaning they don’t lose as much.
Which also isn’t possible with a 3 team deal.
Realist.
from what i can tell the other owners got pissed about Paul being traded to a 'star studded' team
a better deal for the Lakers is out of the question
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Just like Melo last year
The squwaking heads kept talking about the incredible deals Denver had on the table with different teams (Clippers, NJ, etc.)
One problem… no frikkin way was Melo ever signing with those teams so those “deals” were counterfeit… not worth the paper printed on, if you printed it instead of just reading online
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
The Little Owners just need to be Bitch Slapped
That includes Mrs & Mr WalMart Enos “Crocodile Arms… If I only had a personality” Kroenke
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
I saw a comment in an article where someone was saying in about 4years people will look back and decide the players did quite well with this CBA
I think that person is right.
The smart are still smart
The rich big market teams/owners will still be rich
and the stupid, cheap & incompetent owners… will still be stupid, cheap and incompetent
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Hollinger thought Rockets were top seed with Pau and Nene.
https://twitter.com/#!/johnhollinger/status/144965688174448640
Lakers would have had no bench, no frontcourt, and virtually no chance at Dwight Howard. Houston, if Nene came, was potential top seed.
Realist.
Not without Martin, Scola, and Dragic
And they have like 7 PFs and hardly any guards I can think of besides Lowry
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by WSD on Dec 8, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
According to Broussard....
Lakers cancelled CP3 deal because it would completely deplete them at power forward. It was actually a pretty good deal for New Orleans. And great for Houston.
That would make sense.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Dec 8, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I though it was a strong deal for NOH
I’m not an Odom fan; but Martin, Scoula & Odom for Paul… that was a pretty good deal
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
I think it would've been a great deal for NOH!!!
I mean those are three solid players and CP3 is gone regardless.
this is why the Lakers remain the Lakers
and the Knicks…the Knicks.
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you can believe that if you wish
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Wouldn’t they have thought the deal over before making it, if they would just want to later rescind it?
by espnsucks ((banned)) on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
who really knows who reported the deal and what stage it was in
it may not have even reached Buss before some jagoff reported it
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
So Jalen Rose says...
NBA/Owners of the Hornets have been pressured by Owners of other teams to stop the trade of @CP3 to the Lakers so the deal is OFF #staytuned
Realist.
hahahahahaha.
now if tyson would take a paycut. and CP3 would too. we could………
lets not do that. dream situation. possible. but not plausible
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 PM EST reply actions
that was very good news to look at my twitter 4.
fuck LAL.
i actually think they are a better team now then they would be with paul tho
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Dec 8, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions
tomorrow at the earliest
but not until they can resolve Billups and/or Turiaf
Kinda disappointed in Cuban. He doesn’t want to S&T. It hurts nothing for him to do it; he’d even earn a favor that NY could help him sometime in the future
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
In a pretend world... how lil Davey Stern could really get it stuck in him and snapped off is
Supposedly..According to
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217163/Players_Can_Renegotiate_Existing_Contract_For_Smaller_Amount_Over_Longer_Period#ixzz1fyvYQIIc
(thank you bababooey2)
NY acquires Chandler and Grant Hill this year
During the offseason Melo, Amare and Chandler restructure their deals to free up enough FA money to sign Paul… and being NY their discounted money is made up through secured marketing deals (thank you James Dolan and Spike Lee).
The 2012-13 lineup would be
Chandler
Amare
Melo
Hill\Fields
Paul\Iman
But sadly, this won’t happen. I’m the biggest Melo fan (dude broke the boeheim curse so suck it til I’m proven wrong), but he’s not going to take a salary cut
NY could only get Amare, bad knees and all, last year with a max deal. NY after whiffing with LeBron & Wade.
I can dream can’t I?
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Hell, get Melo, Amare & Chandler to each agree to 40% contract re-org
And NY could sign both Paul and Howard to $10mm contracts and you’d have a monster lineup of
Howard/Chandler
Amare
Melo
Hill/Fields
Paul/Iman
All of course with nice matching marketing package deals (again thank you James Dolan) to supplement to discounted salaries
Little owner’s worst nightmare… and just think made by their own little greedy, cheap, stupid and incompetent hands… Ha ha haaa
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
when most your scoring comes of isolation
any decent non turnover ball handler can be ur point.
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions
I like this move
I was shocked when I heard about this move..I like it…Add Hill to the mix and let Shumpert or TD share the point until the better of the two emerges…things could get very interesting.
working on it
yep...
all we need is a charlie ward type. lets gets a defensive point that can hit an open shot
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
YYYEYAAAAAA
I agree…don’t look now but I think this makes this team a tough defensive team….and don’t look now, again….I think I just jizzed my pants
working on it
tu eres loco
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
yo soy loco por mi equipo
loco loco loco
working on it
by BlackRican08 on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Gee, I hope this doesn't effect Chris Paul participating in NBA Cares
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Chandler is good and all
But CP3 is still available and we must do whatever it takes to get him on the Knicks
by Guess Who's Back? on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions
A pissed off Chris Paul you mean!!!
If little boy Stern blocks a Paul trade that was very Hornets positive there’s no way lil Davey will allow a trade with NY.
That officially makes Chris Paul the 2011 CBA Scapegoat… Way to go lil Davey boy. Treat a class act like crap… real good thinking there buckaroo!!!
I think Spencer Haywood needs to go in and bitch slap little Davey… again!!!
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
we need michael redd as a veterans exmp or min contract
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions
I don't know what he has left
And a very good point brought up by a columnist/expert (and also by me in the past)
You can’t assume a former star player will be able to step in and be a valuable role player.
Call it the Iverson Effect
A former star player losing his skills may cause more trouble disrupting team chemistry then his skills off the bench benefits the team.
"Man, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Would the signing of Chandler ..
Bring JJ Barea to the Knicks as a role player off the bench?
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unlikely
i don’t see any reason to correlate those two events
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not mad about losing Chauncey, either
He can get fucked. After he was clearly unhappy with leaving Denver last season, he half-assed it down the stretch, AND we picked up his ridiculous option, he has no right to complain.
I want Baron Davis. He’s still a great passer, he’s always seemed like a really cool guy, I like his beard, and he’ll play well and stay healthy because the Knicks are a good team. He’d mesh really well with this team if we got him imo.
TYBG
Chauncey did half ass it a bit
he didn’t even really try to get to know anyone’s games other than the old Denver guys. Usually there was too much of a two-man game with him and Carmelo. I can’t blame him too much though. It was toward the end of the season, and it’s a tall order to ask him to relearn an offense at that point.
Love Baron though. I hope and pray that we can get our hands on him because he’s light years ahead of our other point guard options unless we pry Steve Nash away by magic or something.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
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