Pre-Game Reconnaissance: Knicks vs. Hawks- 2/16/11
What are the "Atlanta Hawks"? Jump with me to find out.
Odds and ends!
- The Hawks have won 6 of their last 10, the most recent win being a blowout victory in Detroit on Monday night. There was a three-game losing streak in there, too.
- Per HoopData, Atlanta is pretty middle-of-the-pack when it comes to rankings. They have the league's 14th most efficient offense and also the league's 14th best defense. Interestingly, they don't get to the line very much (29th in the league in free throw rate), but make up for it by keeping their hands to themselves (4th in opposing FTR).
- The Knicks have already lost to the Hawks twice this season. They got badly out-rebounded and out-hustled just a few weeks ago in Atlanta (a blowout loss that ended in a bout of fisticuffs flailing between Shawne Williams and Marvin Williams). Before that, they laid bricks in a post-Thanksgiving matinee stinker in New York.
- One interesting bit of statistical insight in advance of tonight's game: The Knicks' defensive success with and without Amar'e Stoudemire on the floor.
Wassup with the Hawks!?
Kris Willis of the most excellent Peachtree Hoops:
The Atlanta Hawks are coming off a turbulent week after dropping two home games to Philadelphia and Charlotte last week. Hawks coach Larry Drew wondered out loud if changes to his starting lineup or perhaps a trade was needed to shake up a roster that he described as too comfortable.
Atlanta bounced back with a win Monday in Detroit but still doesn't appear to be playing its best basketball. Josh Smith has been huge of late but Jamal Crawford and the Hawks bench in particular has been struggling and that has caused Atlanta a lot of problems.
Know the Opponent!
#10 Mike Bibby: The NBA has a delightful history of players resembling their team mascots. Some examples of this are Chris Bosh's seven years as a Raptor or Brian Scalabrine's stint as a Celtic. Anyway, Mike Bibby has a cloaca.
#11 Jamal Crawford: Whenever he returns to New York, Jamal takes the opportunity to visit the Botanical Gardens and catch up with his old friend Sidney the orange daylily.
#1 Maurice Evans: Though Maurice has never even sampled a performance enhancing drug, his blood repeatedly tests positive for almost a dozen different banned substances. A single drop of his blood contains what would typically be a lethal dose of androstenedione.
#2 Joe Johnson: Like any ballplayer who just received a huge contract, Joe followed his six-year, $119 million deal with a celebratory purchase. In Joe's case, that was a medium-sized oaken stool. When asked what he intended to do with said stool, Joe responded, "sit".
#27 Zaza Pachulia: Zaza's personal fragrance has been compared by teammates to "Black Sea flotsam".
Wilson Chandler is unimpressed by your highlights!
Yo, Wilson, did you see Josh Smith posterize Eduardo Najera the other day?
That's probably not the dunk of the year, but it's gotta be in the running, right? Wilson?
You're hard to please, bro.
Just because!
War of the Williamses!
The January 28th fistfight between Shawne Williams and Marvin Williams forced individuals who share their surname to take sides, causing something of a rift within the Williams community. Check the following list to see the official affiliations of the world's foremost Williamses.
Pro-Shawne:
Cadillac
Hank
Otis
John
Tennessee
Michael K.
Ricky
Roger
Serena
MichellePro-Marvin:
Brian
Bernie
Jayson
Billy Dee
Mario
Robin
Venus
Ted
Roy
Lucinda
Here is a picture of the opposing coach!
And now you know about the Hawks.
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Nicely done
And I can’t help but notice a fair share of Outkast references between you and Osborn. Not that I mind, classic stuff
Can we please beat the Hawks, so those assholes can stop chanting We Want Melo?
and lmao at that Larry Drew picture
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 16, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions
Oh
And I think I like the Williamses on Marvin’s list better to be honest
on that note
which side is Saul on? and are they actually brothers?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
yea that was definitley one sided
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Um
I’m pretty sure that Herb is on Team Shawne.
The Golden Voiced Homeless Guy probably is too.
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Feb 16, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions
Uh oh
Herb might not be that active a coach then.
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Does Marvin get all three Roys?
the basketball coach is a given, but the football Williamses? are they still up in the air?
I’m also intrigued that Shawne has managed to cause Serena/Venus friction. What can’t the man do?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
lol
love the faces mayne. laugh everytime
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
That drawing of Larry Drew just smelled a funny fart.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 16, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions
Ha!

"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
quick research Q for Seth (or anyone with NBA 2k11)
are there any coaches who have opted out of the licensing agreement regarding their likenesses? i know that in the NFL, Belichick doesn’t allow his likeness to be used, so in Madden he just has a random old guy character instead.
my point is that you might have an opportunity to draw a really funny picture if someone like Popovich opted out.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions
Can we all recognize the fact
That this is very likely to be some of our knicks last games.
Any of the following could never wear a knicks jersey again: Felton. Gallo. Chandler. Randolph. and last the longest tenured knick, Eddy Curry.
JETS
good point
i hope you’re wrong about everyone except curry, though. i guess i could deal with getting melo for the right price, but it’s starting to seem like we’re going to overpay for his services. i want to retain as many of the current Knicks as possible.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Free Agency
Knicks are bidding against themselves. It’s ridiculous. We all know the Nets haven’t been talking to Denver.
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DWTDD
strangely enough, it seems like we're bidding against Carmelo and the CBA
no other team will make a real offer, but there is still the fear that Melo will just sign an extension with Denver anyway. he could potentially be leaving a ton of money on the table by opting for free agency as a new CBA goes into effect.
alternatively, there is a chance that the new CBA could somehow restrict the movement of players (i.e. franchise tags). even if Melo wants to come here in free agency, he might not be allowed.
so i think there’s a good argument for making a trade, but there’s also a lot of reasons why we shouldn’t give up three starters like the media wants us to.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
He won't make the Knicks a contender over night.
He lacks defense. A thing the Knicks need.
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no disagreement here
but i do think we improve if we trade Gallo or Chandler for Melo. probably not a contender yet, but at least we have that chance. with that foundation in place, the surrounding parts (Fields, Moz, DWTDD, Extra E) should continue to develop around them, and maybe it turns into something.
i also have a lot of concerns and wouldn’t want to give up too much, but i think there is definitely a point where the trade makes a lot of sense, even if Melo isn’t a perfect fit.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
it depends on what we give up.
Chandler while a good shot blocker isn’t really all that good man to man and can lack focus. Carmelo only plays D when he wants to, but he can do it and pretty well.
If we keep Gallo our defense will be fine. Also our offense will be impeccable.
But of course it depends on what we give up. This team could be a piece of shit if we give up all what’s being mentioned in this deal.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
For sure.
I want to wait for free agency. If Carmello really wants to play here/win in NY then he should probably take less money and let this team grow together.
Felton
Fields
Gallo
Melo
Amar’e
If you want to run with 3 SF’s. Fields can play SG, but I rather Gallo starting he’s better, and maybe can run the 2. Next season thinking.
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wait a minute.....
South Beach?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Not anymore.
But I thought you actually were talking to me seriously for a moment. You just didn’t recognize me. lol
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Eddy Curry
Has not worn a Knicks jersey all season.
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 16, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
well, maybe he does in practice
or does he just go to Subway while the team is scrimmaging? i really don’t know anymore.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
He does a little of this
http://www.cryingwhileeating.com/
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 16, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
i can't believe that's a real website
amazing what people decide to post on the information superhighway
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe you forgot the most prominent current "player who looks like his team's mascot,"
Marc Gasol!
this is pretty much the best example out there
i can think of a few guys that match the team names, but don’t actually resemble the mascot. you really nailed it with Gasol though.
by latrell chokewell on Feb 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Beat the Hawks please!
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