A Thread For Carmelo Anthony Trade Rumor Madness: 2/19/11
by Seth on Feb 19, 2011 2:17 PM EST
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During times like these (see this past summer), I like to just open up a thread in which everybody can comment on the day's news and rumors and I can update with new bits of intelligence from the reporters. This'll be that. If you're ignoring this story until it reaches its conclusion, then bless you. If you're following closely, then here's some stuff to look at. Any updates will go atop the older stuff. There's plenty of great discussion going on in the Fanposts as well. Remember to be kind to one another.
Update (4:13): Jonathan Abrams:
Carmelo Anthony is informing those close to him that he will not sign a contract extension if he is traded to the Nets, according to a person aware of Anthony’s preference.
So, that's good. The Knicks' offer should now be just a few Cheez-Its and Kelenna Azubuike.
Carmelo Anthony knew where I was going when I asked the question. It was quite simple and something just about everyone in the league -- even Charles Barkley gets it -- wondered when talking about this ongoing saga.
Why not just tell Denver you will only sign the extension with the one team you want to go to?
"Yeah, I can, but then they have to do what's best for their organization, too," he said. "So at the end of the day, they can say, 'Forget it, we have to take care of our organization . . . We have to do what we have to do'."
I took that to mean he isn't confident that would work because the Nuggets might just keep him rather than trade him or trade him to a team without an extension.
Hahn on Twitter:
If Knicks can somehow keep Gallinari in this deal, as NBAtv says DEN prefers Mozgov/Fields instead, that would be amazing.
Ken Berger on Twitter:
#Nuggets have given indications they want resolution by Sunday, sources say. So does Melo. So does humanity.
In the end, this trade is all about Carmelo Anthony. As I’ve said in the past, I don’t think he’s a great fit for New York. Carmelo is a good isolation scorer, but isn’t a good defender and he’s a career 31.1% three point shooter. None of those seem to fit in with a D’Antoni coached team. Nonetheless, I’m likely in the minority on this issue. North of my view of the spectrum, Anthony is anywhere from a major upgrade over Chandler and Gallinari, to a top 10 player in the league. He is an 25 ppg scorer that can take the load off of Amar’e and can take over the offense in clutch time. And perhaps his arrival could open the door for other stars like Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or Dwight Howard.
And if Carmelo Anthony is your small forward, Danilo Gallinari is coming off the bench. Again, you don’t hold up a trade for Carmelo Anthony over a player who is going to come off the bench. As for his future, I don’t think Gallinari has the athletic ability to rise to the level of a top-tier NBA player but I do think he’s going to settle into that second tier of scorers who are good for 22 points a game for about ten years. That’s not an easy thing to give up, but Carmelo Anthony is a top-tier player. There are maybe ten guys better than him. You might have reservations, but remember what you thought when the Knicks signed Amar’e. I was skeptical. And how has that worked out? Great.
Stefan Bondy on Twitter:
Mikhail Prokhorov just released statement that he hasn't met with Carmelo and has no plans to meet with him.
I'll update again in a bit. Wanna link y'all to some Howard Beck stuff but my NYT login isn't working.
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You make sense here
‘Misha, where are your knees?’ He looked like a grasshopper."
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement.
try this trade. it is somewhat plausible, and senseable for all teams involved, but unfortunatley waves the no gallo trade clause
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4bsnsga
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
improves us by 9 wins
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
here is original proposed trade, we increase by 4 wins
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=459umzx
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I can't be the only one
who prefers to keep Landry over Gallo if it comes to that? Am I sadly mistaken? I just think Landry’s reboundingness is too important to the knickerbockers…
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
i agree with you
for what thats worth
by lets go buffalo on Feb 19, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
its important
but Gallo brings a lot more to the table. Also he’s been rebounding better as of late
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Well it just occurred to me that if Landry was traded (which appears unlikely anyways)
Gallo could just play the 2 and Melo can play the 3. Now that could work. Maybe Its just have a large man-crush on Landry.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
I like Landry as much as anyone
but I just dunno why for some its alright for Landry to be a 2 and Gallo can’t.
Gallo plays like a 2 and Landry like a 3 anyway.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It's really a tough decision
Gallo has the bigger upside, but Landry has all the intangibles. I prefer to keep Gallo because he’s got the potential to be just short of a star player, but perhaps on a team with superstars like the Knicks will be, you’re probably better off with a guy like Landry that excels at the dirty work.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
what sort of stars do we have?
I’d say the goal is CP3 Melo and Amar’e right? CP3 is a dude that gets guys shots.
Who do you want getting shots? Landry or Gallo? Gallo also stretches the floor. Landry’s % might be higher now but basically his role for the most part is to wait by the 3pt line. Gallo is much more diverse on offense.
In the same role as Landry last year Gallo took more 3s and made more.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I disagree on Landry.
He moves so well off the ball that waiting by the arc is a waste of a body. He’s constantly making cuts and moving around, that’s why so many of his points come on backdoor layups and baseline drives.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 19, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Gallo does the same actually
except the innate rebounding anticipation that Landry has.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Landry's got the rebounding instinct,
Gallo is a better shooter, gets to the line more efficiently and can take over an offense like Landry can’t. They work well together, which is why it sucks that one would be gone in a Melo trade.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 20, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
If by better shooter you mean
Who get’s the ball into the basket at a better percentage rate then you should check out this knick stat page which contradicts this statement by quite a large margin. Of course if you are using the standard knick fan criteria which is continually saying “Gallo is a better shooter than Landry” over and over ad nauseum without a lick of proof then yes Gallo is by far the better shooter.
The Landryman Can
But./..but
Gallo has such a sweet stroke
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Huh...
there aren’t? When I watch a game I always have ten sheets of paper numbered from 1-10, every quarter I rate based on stroke, shoe style, and hair gel. Gallo has never scored under a 9.8
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
I have never questioned Gallo's awesomeness
He is indeed in a class by himself. Even his bricks are beautiful.
The Landryman Can
The lick of proof is last year
they’re in different roles this year. Landry is in Gallo’s role, Gallo is more of a slasher now. Gallo made as many 3’s as anyone last year and shot a high %.
Gallo’s 3pt attempts are way down this year and he’s STILL shooting and making more than Landry.
I’ve also seen Landry get better 3pt attempts than Gallo, mainly since the defense is more worried about Gallo (which is why we need to keep Gallo).
Landry is a good shooter and considering what he was in college, he’s gotten a lot better and will get better still.
Unfortunately if we’re comparing the 2, the same thing can be said of Gallo.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hmmmm
So Gallo’s 3 point attempts are better than Landry’s? I didn’t realize that, Because if you compare Gallo of last year to Landry of this year it still comes out in Landry’s favor. Of course when considering what Landry was in college, the Pac-10 leading scorer, he has actually gone down. But oh well, keep saying it, "Gallo is a better scorer. Gallo is a better scorer, Gallo is a better scorer. There I guess that makes him a better shooter.
The Landryman Can
I don't have to keep saying it
I already know it and I’m surprised anyone thinks otherwise.
I know you’re strongly on Landry’s nuts, but c’mon…
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
There are other ways of evaluating a shooter besides one season's shooting percentages
I do think Landry’s shooting is still underrated, at least from what we’ve seen so far. But there are other factors that go into it. For one thing, Gallo’s 3pt% is down from last year and the previous year, and I’m not yet convinced that the 35% shooting Gallo is the real one and not the 44% shooting one. For another, I get the sense (though I could be wrong) that Landry is especially comfortable from certain sports, whereas Gallo has a bit more versatility across the arc. And finally, I’m willing to bet that Gallo takes more contested jumpers than Fields does, which probably skews the percentages if you’re trying to use them to determine who the better shooter is (though it’s fair to argue that Landry has better shot selection and therefore that aids him in the comparison of who’s a better shooter). Anyway, I’m fairly agnostic on this and am pretty confident in both of them as shooters. I love them both and if the game is on the line I trust them both if they have an open look. Just wanted to point out that comparing their FG% or 3pt% this season isn’t the only way to determine who the better shooter is.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
CP3? B.S.
He is another drama queen like Baby Boy Gallinari. I want D.Williams period.
As for Carmelo being in love with CP3. Why does he not just sign with N.O?
The answer is the 20 million dollars difference that he gets with the Knicks.
Its about money until Carmelo signs as a FA to play with the Knicks.
Deron Williams is a drama queen too
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You're kidding, right?
Paul is about as modest and respectful and drama-free as NBA players come. Williams, on the other hand, is hated by his entire state for his drama leading to the resignation of their beloved coach.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
by Joamiq on Feb 19, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
Williams has revealed himself to be a rather big drama queen this season, which upset me because he was always one of my favorite players. His game is still sick though
Disagree
Jerry Sloan is Larry Brown west. D-Will ran a play Jerry didn’t call, Jerry flipped out, they argued – just the way Sloan and Stockton and Malone used to argue – and quit. Sloan didn’t feel he had the stomach to argue w his PG any more. As Stockton said, he’s earned that right. Don’t think that makes D-Will a drama queen.
by AtlKnicksFan on Feb 19, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was more that Sloan realized the Utah front office was going to back Deron
instead of him. Seeing how LeBron, Wade, Melo, and even the Chris Paul threat went over… its obvious Utah isn’t even gonna risk Deron Williams getting upset.
Sloan is from the school that you listen to your coach. Nowadays, the players call the shots. I mean, once you see your front office side with the player instead of the coach, there is a problem.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Personally from what I've heard
D-Will was a drama queen or just hot-headed/headstrong. I know Sloan never won a championship, but Williams was basically disagreeing with all of Sloan’s tactics, and to me, he has no right to argue that
I agree. But these days, the coaches have no power.
People come for the players. And look at this Melo thing. Hes basically told Denver he wants an extension that ONLY Denver can give him and he wants to be traded to the team of his choice.
Denver could say “fuck you, man. You signed a contract with us, finish it. Or if you want out, we will trade you wherever WE want.”
Instead its all about making the superstar happy.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah it's unfortunate
It’s really what creates drama in the locker room and splits up teams.
I love listening to Clyde’s stories of how they were all afraid of Red back in the day. You never hear about any serious shenanigans going on back then
Gallo would run point forward for the 2nd unit
he has the skills
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Amen
Not sure why he’s not doing that now. Been wondering that all season…
by AtlKnicksFan on Feb 19, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think I agree with you.
I think Gallo’s assets are slightly more replaceable than Landry’s. Landry is a pretty unique player, and I think he’s going to be a huge role player for winning teams for years to come.
That said, I think the Knicks should still call the Nuggets’ bluff and not trade either.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I'm with you on keeping Landry instead of Gallo
Gallo has become an elite dribble penetrator while Landry still has work to do in this area of his game, but I think he will get there. In my mind Landry has a much better nose for the ball. I will feel very sorry for Gallo and his legion of fans, I too like Gallo. If it turns out to be the Landryman I will feel like shit. Either way in that regard it’s a lose lose.
The Landryman Can
i agree with that
lando>gallo
if it comes down to that
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
And if Carmelo Anthony is your small forward, Danilo Gallinari is coming off the bench
This isn’t or doesn’t have to be true. Anyone with a brain and has watched the Knicks knows Gallo is a perimeter player. He also guards PGs and SGs all the time. The fuck is the difference if he starts at the 2? Gallo can start.
And if he’s moved to the bench, I’m not sure how that matters. Its baffling how many people are so hung up on who starts a game vs. who finishes it. Gallo would definitely finish the game.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'd disagree
Chandler is a surprisingly good post defender. And TD’s numbers would indicate he’s an excellent defender.
But he’s good.
Agreed. I'm surprised you said the best, Seth
I mean, we don’t have any lockdown guys, but I personally think Chandler’s a little better. Gallo’s got the length though
which is why its imperative we can't give up Gallo AND Chandler
our defense isn’t all that good to begin with and we’re trading our 2 best defenders?
(TD is good too of course but is usually limited to PGs while Chan can guard 2-4s and Gallo guards 1-3s).
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
If we give them up
it’s for the long term. I think people may be too caught up with the results this year and not the long term view of the team. A lot of these guys we’re afraid to give up are probably not in the five year plan, save Gallo and Fields, of whom, we’re probably only losing 1.
I agree. I think you tend to get attached to the players on your team, and think that they’re better than they are. I think if the deal goes down, they’ll be forgotten after a few games of watching Amar’e and Melo together.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
There's no way in knowing that
Those guys all have pretty high ceilings and everyone in the organization is pretty psyched about their futures. If they continued to grow and become better players, while we still added talent to fill in holes, they could possibly be part of a dynasty.
Wow
Look…I’ll grant you there’s a possibility all the players on this team could max out their potential and evolve into a dynasty.. But there’s a much greater possibility none of them evolves into the player Chris Bosh is (not to mention Melo, Wade, LeBron, Rose, Noah, Durant, Westbrook…i.e. the competition).
Well nah I'm saying they'd be as good as them
But if we kept those 3, hopefully added a quality, starting Center and filled in some holes on the bench, all while Amare is healthy…. it’s a possibility
Getting the "sure thing" at this point
Means not having any supporting “things”
Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and Raymond Felton will never be a dynasty. Are you kidding? With Lebron, Wade and Bosh down in Miami? And besides, while you’re waiting for them to reach their potential, the one superstar you have will be wearing down due to double teams, old age, and constant pounding on his already beat up legs. This team will never win a single championship as it’s constructed right now. They’re a huge improvement over the last decade and fun to watch, but they’re a first round playoff team at best, with the potential to evolve into a second round playoff team.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
I don't think anyone's ever said we shouldn't upgrade our squad
what we’re saying is don’t trade everyone
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I said before "plug in holes"
Those guys are all going to improve, so up the talent level a little bit amongst our general core. Carmelo Anthony is not the last talented player who’s ever going to hit free agency. And we have cap space. Like I said “plug in holes”!
Get a better center, and there are many available who’d improve this team by alot. Get a backup PG who’s reliable to run the offense. Add some more firepower at the 2, and toughness off the bench. Yeah, we’d have a shot
"Carmelo is not the last talented player to hit free agency"
Nobody even knows what the next CBA will be and what free agency and the cap will look like. It’s already weighted in the team’s favor because they can give more money to their player’s than other team’s can, and it could get worse. Not to mention the fact that Melo is a New Yorker, and other free agents have other desirable spots they might like to play in more. There’s a distinct possibility that Carmelo Anthony may be the best player the Knicks get a shot at for quite some time.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not debating the CBA or Carmelo's talent
But there’s still a ton of FA’s out there tihs offseason that could make a sizable impact on the Knicks. Carmelo may be the best, but it doesn’t make him the only fish in the sea
The other end of that is that no players in the NBA will be making $20Mil a year
And seeing as the Knicks will have 2 of those guys, that is gonna hurt us since every other team will have more room financially.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
that's not me guessing either.
Contracts are about to get cheaper in the next CBA.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I should've said perimeter
But I’ve been really impressed with Gallo’s defense since returning from injury, moreso than I have with Chandler’s.
this year's charges
follow dutchmarau’s link. change the season to 2011. the statistic called “defensive plays” is steals + blocks + charges. you can do it yourself if you like, but here it is.
stat— 4
felton— 17
chandler— 3
landry— 12
gallo— 27
turiaf—3
douglas— 10
extra e— 3
mozgov— 2
bully— 0
randolph— 1
mason— 2
rautins—0
It's quite likely that Mike D'Antoni will accomplish something that Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, and Isiah Thomas couldn't do: Win a playoff game. So, obviously, small ball doesn't work.
more charges
than buckets.
It's quite likely that Mike D'Antoni will accomplish something that Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, and Isiah Thomas couldn't do: Win a playoff game. So, obviously, small ball doesn't work.
just as i suspected
thanks for computering up those stats
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Wrong Seth
W.Chandler is the best man defender on the team. I love how everybody has Gallianri coming off the bench because we get Carmelo. It should be happeining now with Chandler the starting three. Not playing the four and Stoudemire center and all the B.S. D’Antoni tried to avoid having Baby Boy starting.
It was wrong and a joke all in one.
I'd prefer keeping Gallo and Felton
And giving up Fields and Mozzie. I’m a little optimistic too, if we gave up Moz, we could sign Earl Barron or make a trade for at least another servicable center.
I really don’t wanna give up Felton for Chauncey. This has been discussed/argued to a ridiculous extent on this site, but I’m just stating my opinion, that swapping those PGs would be a lateral move at best
it really..really wouldn't.
depending on the matchup we’re a 1st round or 2nd round exit. Which is basically what I’d say our current team is.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Totally
I don’t think that team would be any better than the Celtics, Heat, Bulls or Magic
Well to get to the championship
You have to beat a combination those 4 teams
with this trade we improve big time
and I do think we beat the bulls with that team as well as the magic and atl
Nevermind the bench or depth
Which we’d basically have neither if we made this deal. Billups, Fields, Melo, Amare, Mozzie is not better than Rose, Bogans/ Korver, Deng, Boozer, Noah or Nelson, J-Rich, Turkoglu, Bass, Howard.
And you said that this deal would make us championship contenders. Based alone on Billups, Melo and Amare. You never said anything about giving time to get better, which is what we’d be doing anyway without trading half our best players for those two
We were delusional
in thinking that we have any leverage in this situation.Carmelo wants the extension. He’ll sign it, regardless of where he ends up.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
That's not true
Otherwise he’d be in Houston or NJ already
I see it as a bluff
He’d like to come here, but if the chips fall, he’s signing that extension. It’s more than 80 million.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Well I guess it's over 80
If you include the year he wouldn’t opt out. I getcha
he has a player option for next year worth about 18 mill
its over $80 mill in total.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It's not a bluff
Would you take $80M to work in a place you hated? When you want, with all your heart, to be somewhere else?
Would you employ someone who clearly wants to be somewhere else? Would you pay $80 M to someone when his heart is not with you?
It’s not a bluff. It’s just very, very hard
by AtlKnicksFan on Feb 19, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly if I were Donnie
I’d offer Chandler, Walker, Mozzie, the whole Curry+AR tandem for a 1st, and a 2nd round pick. Denver can take it or leave it. If they take it, then great we’ve still got a solid supporting cast. If not, Denver keeps Melo for the year, and he comes here via free agency. Or, if Melo agrees to the Nets, then he was all about the money, and not winning in NY, so we wouldn’t want that kinda player anyway.
Honestly, if he moves on, it is FAR from the end of the world for these Knicks. What we’d end up with is, a solid young core, with cap space this summer to upgrade the roster. Oh no…..
by WSD on Feb 19, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you were Donnie
you would be watching Dolan screw up the trade.
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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
by Russ on Feb 19, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is true
But honestly, he should tell Dolan to step back, look at the results, if things get worse, let him go. Dolan should have more faith in Walsh
He won't come here for free agency
That’s thing. If, after meeting with Carmelo, we’re still offering this deal, that means that Carmelo didn’t say he’d only sign a deal with them and if it doesn’t happen before the trade deadline, that he’d come via FA. If that were the case, then the deal would be off the table already.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Exactly
That’s why Denver allowed the deal as well. I was wondering why they would allow Dolan a chance to convince Melo to wait until the end of the season, but now I see they knew all along he was going to sign an extension no matter what happened, and they wanted him to tell that to Dolan.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
wsd that sounds good and should have been enough
by lets go buffalo on Feb 19, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Should have been
And like I said, if we missed out, it wouldn’t be that bad of a situation at all. But unfortunately, we have an owner and partial fanbase that drools over superstars and names (no one here of course). The sound of getting Melo is too important for some to just let him walk away
The James Dolan Negotiating Plan
1) Take over negotiations despite being in over your head.
2) Watch as main competition drops out of contention for player you want.
3) Up offer to other team.
4)????
5)Profit!!!!!
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 19, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Underpants Gnome Business Theory, I like it! lol
Cheering for the "Wrong" New York Teams Since 1995
That
might’ve been the best South Park episode of the early days. I was cracking up.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Dolan isn’t the only one over his head here, and this is why this has gone on for so long. He’s dealing with another daddy’s boy here and a rookie GM. They wanted no part of Walsh, that’s for sure.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
its really like the houston
fiasco all over again.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Not sure I agree
Houston was: “We have to clear more cap space, and the price of doing so is losing Jordan Hill. Do I really want to lose my shot at LeBron because of Jordan Hill?”
This is more DW saying: “I’ve got these guys over a barrel. Let’s see if they are willing to risk losing ‘Melo for nothing this summer. I’ll bet their fear of losing ’Melo for nothing IS GREATER THAN their desire to include Gallo in this deal.”
At least that’s what it was until Dolan got involved, if indeed he has.
by AtlKnicksFan on Feb 19, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
All in all I'm hoping Denver like the Nets deal
cuz really, if Carmelo would sign with us or the Nets, what’s stopping them from sending him to NJ?
Their offer includes more assets- basically 5 first round picks cuz Favors is still raw as hell. And then Devin Harris could be moved, possibly for first rounders. They might even trade Nene for picks.
The Knicks offer has Felton and Gallo who are there till 2012. A first rounder that’s probably in the teens at the lowest. Chandler who’s an expiring basically.
Holding out hope that the Nets “win” this.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yup
Carmelo must be trying to stall, cause nobody in their right minds would rather take our package than the one the Nets are offering.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Yeah I wouldn't care if he went to NJ
Not like they’d even end up being that much of a threat to us if it did go through
Dolan won’t allow this. Remember how hard he fought to keep the Jets from building a stadium in Manhattan? He doesn’t want New Jersey to have any marketable players on their team when they move to Brooklyn, if he can possibly do anything about it.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
I know
And that’s the unfortunate/aggravating part about it. Dolan is just so stupid
Nah
Testosterone-driven would be a better word for it.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
All hope is lost.
Seriously though, all I want is to keep Gallo and Fields. Why do we need to give one up?
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 2:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Because Dolan is negotiating
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Random South Park question
What’s your favorite episode? Favorite 5? I’ve watched quite a few, but don’t want to watch a random episode. Is the “Coon” series any good?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
The Coon episodes are kinda lame (i think)
The Facebook one is my favorite. And the Fish Sticks one with Kanye.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
night of the living homeless
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
the imagination land series
is really good.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I do prefer that to the Coon series
Though the Do the Handicapped Go to Hell? two-parter beats them both. As does the Meteor Shower trilogy.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
the canada on strike episode is also a classic
I’m not your buddy, guy.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
i'm not your guy, friend
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
The meteor shower one is incredible
In fact both that you mentioned are awesome. Cartman ad one of those healing ministers, " this girl is very very ugly lord, let me slap the ugliness out of her,FOR HE IS LORD, LORD LORD LOOORRRD.". And moses looking like Zordon or whatever his name is from power rangers and demanding macaroni sculptures… Hymen as the antagonist. The first 5 seasons are so freaking funny. Chinpokomon and the Rainforest one are two of my favs, " WERE NOT GETTING GAY WITH ANY KEEDS!"
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 19, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, I like your South Park taste
Chinpokomon, for me (especially coming right on the heels of the meteor shower trilogy) was the point where South Park went from a pretty damn funny and fresh new comedy to a just out of this world uproarious immortal show. Season 5 is probably my favorite. So many of those episodes are among South Park’s all time best. It even features the inexplicably, genuinely tear-jerking (but still funny) Kenny Dies episode.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I love it
How they continued kennys character in cartman after he drank kennys ashes thinking it was chocolate milk. And the one where they go to chef’s family, the continuation of “I need about a tree fitty” and my favorite part, " rob schnieder is…. A STAPLER."
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 19, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
So, rough synopsis of the day so far?
I’m assuming:
- Evin Demon Dolan is winning the battle against rationality and trying to give Denver more than they actually want
- Old and lacking vitality, Donnie is playing no role in this
- Nothing is actually happening though for real?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
nothing will get done until the ASG is over
even if it is done nothing will get announced.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
News will have leaked though
It won’t be completely official, but I’m thinking this gets hammered out by tommorow.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I want to keep Fields and Felton at least.
Follow me on twitter
"Feet on the ground eyes to the sky" - Landry Fields said this to me
It's looking like either Fields of Gallo
Id rather have Gallo. Felton we’d all like to keep.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
They won't be able to keep Felton
Getting Billups salary off of their cap for luxury tax reasons seems to be important to them.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am happy with trading Felton for Billups
Felton was only signed as a two year stop gap anyway until Paul and Deron become FA’s.
Melo plays the same position as Gallo, Chandler was likely gone as a FA anyway has he will be overpaid and we don’t want to lose that 3 max cap room.
The player want to keep most is Landry, he is the perfect type of player to play with superstars
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
The thing is
While we aren’t nearly the best team in the East right now, we’ll be among the elite teams in the East in a couple of years.
Think of it this way. The Celtics are considered old now. What happens when they fade away 2 years from now? Same thing with the Magic. That team is built to win now, and they have no financial flexibility for the future. Which leaves the Bulls and Heat. We’ll be competing with them for a chance at the title. I think whoever comes in as GM, if his name doesn’t rhyme wih Misiah Domas, will do a good job of plugging holes such as a C, PG and decent bench with the cap space we’ll have.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
You guys realize these rumors, all being contradictory and whatnot
give no hint that we have to give up Fields or Gallo in the first place. Dolan met with Melo face-to-face. If Melo wants to be a Knick and only a Knick, Dolan knows it. Every day that passes, passes in our favor.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
My theory is
that he’ll sign the extension with Denver if the deadline passes and he doesn’t get traded. Way too much money to leave on the table. So if we don’t assemble a package that Denver likes, and they don’t call ’Melo’s bluff, then Carmelo will not be here.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
He can make up that money in endorsements
but more importantly, Denver isn’t about to walk away empty-handed.
The media is trying to set this up as a dilemma which has no evidence suggesting that it exists
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Nope
He won’t make that money. No way. Kobe makes about 20 million in endorsments. I highly doubt Carmelo even approaches that figure. I don’t care about the fact that he plays in New York.
Look, I’m not saying he won’t make some money back if he comes here because of endorsments. But the fact of the matter is that he’ll lose some money coming here. And it looks like money is important for him.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
The endorsement money theory has been debunked by sports marketing people
Apparently in today’s interconnected world, where a superstar player plays doesn’t make much of a difference in how much endorsement money he makes
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
well
the career of his wife means something to…
not too many TV hosts living out in Denver.
I dont think she really planned to spend this many years in the Midwest.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
no way he signs with Denver. That ship has sailed. If he told Denver even once he might sign that extension they wouldn’t be trying so hard to deal him right now. The Knicks pull this deal off, or he gets traded to NJ and reluctantly signs with Prohkorov.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
Look
Obviously, if money is taken out of the equation, Melo would rather play here than in Denver. But he wants that extension. Which is why he’s bluffing, saying he wants to be traded. If he wants to be traded, then he’d never say he “might sign an extension”.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
All he's said is that he won't not sign an extension with Denver
which he HAS to, when he’s playing basketball for the Nuggets.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I think that Melo is not the sharpest knife in the drawer
All that he had to do was tell Denver that he will be a Knick by next season. “Trade me, or I’ll walk.” If he kept to that line, and never blinked, he might already be a Knick with the extension.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Exactly.
He screwed himself and us over when he said that.
Makes me think its def money first, championships and NY later.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He already explained his rationale for not saying that (and it makes sense)
but no, here’s an opportunity to say the rich young black athlete is a greedy self-serving asshole, gogogo!
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
That was after he had already said
He’d only sign an extension if he were a Knick.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When did he ever say that?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Supposidley he did.
Id post links but I’m on a phone.
Google it. Plenty of links saying he did. Not saying its 100 percent true but the claim that he did say that is indeed out there.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"supposedly" he did
“links” say he did
honestly does this really mean anything to you?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
and the whole point is that he said nothing publicly
to preserve his temporary status as a player for the Denver Nuggets, a basketball team with an interest in winning games
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Why wouldn't it?
Those “links” and reporters know a hell of a lot more about the situation then you or I do, whether you want to admit it or not.
There is a reason they’re getting paid and we’re on a Knicks blog.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they don't get paid to report the truth
or to even “report.” have you been living under a rock while mass media changed dramatically?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
No.
But just because the media sucks and its wrong a lot doesn’t mean I can act like I know more about the situation.
There’s a reason we read and discuss what the media says. Its because there is always the possibility of it being fact. Otherwise this blog and thread wouldn’t exist, because all were discussing right now are rumors from the media…
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We're discussing the future of the Knicks
the media is incidentally involved and is shaping the discussion to a greater degree than it should, but this discussion would still be existent (albeit on a smaller level) if not for the rumors.
The credibility of the media guys is mostly fabricated, but they’re still saying provoking shit, so we’ll argue it even if we kinda know it’s probably bullshit.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I agree.
To be honest, I wouldn’t hate on Melo if he came out right now and said its about the $. If I were in his shoes idk if id let all that money slip away.
I just want the drama to be over. And if its going to cost us what it looks like it will, id rather he become a Net or stay a Nugget.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I also think he feels some loyalty to the Denver organization, which is why he wants them to not be completely screwed when he leaves them. He’s already said he doesn’t want to do to them what Lebron did to Cleveland.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let me guess
It was a “source close to Carmelo”. Unless Carmelo himself, in front of a camera or other recording device, says that he’ll only sign an extension in New York, I’ll never call him a liar or hypocrite. He’s handeled this exceptionally well.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I'm not saying hes a liar or hypocrit.
Idc if he said that he’d play for the Kings if they paid him more then we did.
I’m just saying the claims are out there and its silly to throw them aside because you think you know more about Melos situation then they do.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They're claims though
By that logic, it’d also be silly to assume that a company’s product is bullshit, just based on the fact that they get paid to create a product, and there’s a reason that they’re in an infomercial and we’re not. It’s all claims, and they remain claims until they’re proven. We can disect Melo after this goes or does’nt go down.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
im not assuming anything.
I said exactly what you said. The claims are out there.
Whether they’re true or not, who knows? But the fact that claims were made gives us more to look at and discuss until Thursday.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
“That was after he had already said he’d only sign an extension if he were a Knick”
That makes it seem like he said. it. We have to learn to distinguish the two. Somebody said he said it. Actually, the article you’re reading should read like this:
Somebody told me that somebody told me that Melo told them that he’ll probably sign an extension only with the Knicks. But I’ll report it like I’m Melo and stating an absolute fact.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
fair enough. poor choice of words on my part.
What I meant was that was after he allegedly said he’d only sign with the Knicks.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I believe there was a story on Real GM a week or so ago which said that Melo’s agent, Leon Rose, was telling teams that Melo would only sign an extension with the Knicks. I think that’s what Gelatin is referring to. Melo never said this himself.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Melo signed for the Kings in my 2K11 dynasty
they were sick, too, they drafted a stud PG prospect + Evans/Melo/Thompson/Cousins
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
How is 2K7?
I need a new sports game.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
doh. 2K11
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
excellent
what you’d expect from them. association and My Player are really in-depth, gameplay is excellent. I’d assume you can get it for less than $60 now espec. used
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
awesome.
NHL 11 was a let down and Madden lost its touch. MLB is a joke for the xbox.
I think ill get a copy today. Thanks.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
np
but prepare to be consumed by it. that and FIFA eat away far too many of my precious minutes on this here Earth
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Amazing.
All I play is Black Ops and 2k11.
Follow me on twitter
"Feet on the ground eyes to the sky" - Landry Fields said this to me
I hate Black Ops.
So bad at it.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was too
but as you get ranked up you get better guns then you get better. I’m decent now. 1.17 K/D ratio
Follow me on twitter
"Feet on the ground eyes to the sky" - Landry Fields said this to me
My brother is a wizard at CoD.
I gave it up. I play sports games now and that’s about it. I used to play all kinds of stuff.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Walsh
Is starting to look like he might be ready to retire (if the rumors are true). Who’s the best candidate to replace him? Marky Wark? Houston? An outside hire?
Please, please don’t let it be Isiah. Please.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
doesn't matter who the best candidate is
its probably Isiah
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
yes
as long as isiah occupies dolan’s mind. i’m just scared that we’ll return to the dark ages of knicks basketball.
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Feb 20, 2011 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
Who will want the job after watching Dolan this weekend?
I can’t imagine a really good GM would want to operate in this environment.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Which is why
I think we’d promote Warkentien. And I can’t say that I’d be majorly dissapointed.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
go on a media LOLout
we’re all addicted to the story, sure, but take every rumor with the requisite hint of LOL and it’s not as bad
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Basketball-wise, if it comes down to it
I still think we keep Gallo over Landry. Higher ceiling, skill-set meshes better with Melo, spaces the floor.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Of course
But the question is, would we rather trade Gallo or a combination of Landry+Mozzie? I’d rather keep Gallo, because the hole at C can be plugged during the summer.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Nobody knows what the "question" is
and that hurts, but still Gallo.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
We can only go by what the rumors are saying
If we ignore them completely, then the only question is do we give up some parts of the team for Melo or stay pat. We’re going by what the rumors are saying. In discussing the trade, we have to accept that.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Take the rumors as what they are. Rumors
don’t let them guide you and shit, they’re basically disposable razors, useless after they cut you once
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
are you going to change your name
after Gallo is traded?
I don't get why you're all so disgusted
At Melo wanting to get paid. This is his big chance at a pay-day. He might get injured during the season, the new CBA might suck…he wants to secure his future now. You would all do the same thing if you played any sport professionally.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
we arent disgusted with Melo getting paid.
We are disgusted at the possibility that our team would cave to the demands of Denver. Denver asked for the moon, we are giving them half the solar system. All for a guy who has spent months dropping hints that he only wants to play in NY.
We are disgusted because it seems that this trade is now being handled by our team owner who is NOT a basketball mind, but a businessman’s son. And while it is understandable that an owner would want to be hands on, it seems obvious that he is NOT listening to the guys he specifically hired to shape the team. Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni. Add in what Walsh has had to do over the past 2 years JUST to get us competitive, and his contract is up for extension and hasn’t been picked up yet.
It is definitely NOT a positive sign to see en extension left hanging AND your boss choosing to do YOUR job himself.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't mean that
That’s a whole different situation. I was talking about all the comments, such as “Well, look at Melo. Money talks” or “smh, he’s only after the money”. That’s what I was referring to.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
I think those comments are mostly from people who haven't really followed this closely.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
this latest switch between gallo and fields/mozgov reassures me that we won't give up too much
Every time a new rumor pops up, there is something else popping up a few hours later. The early morning Gallo rumors seemed so final, but they aren’t. I think this goes until wednesday or Thursday, and we end up keeping Gallo
by teksurgical on Feb 19, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Chandler, Curry, Walker, 2011 and 2012 firsts (possible if we get a first from MIN), draft rights to Jerome Jordan
^ my prediction of the final deal
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 19, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that you're right
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
I was JUST thinking that too. Denver STILL can't make up it's mind and agree to a deal
they just keep making changes.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 19, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly hope
It’s our side that’s making the changes
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1 minute i think fields next minute i think gallo
this is a tough ass question. hopefully none of this shit is true and we get melo and keep both
by lets go buffalo on Feb 19, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Denver plays on Tuesday
so if it goes to the trade deadline that means Walsh is holding out for a deal that suits his liking and is calling their bluff.
That Proky and the Nets aren’t even meeting with Carmelo shows that it could happen too.
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I don't think the Nets ever really got back in it.
I think their offer was a last ditch cross your fingers kind of thing, and now they’re just “in it” to mess with our negotiations.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think they definitely did get back into it, but now they realize they were being used by Denver to get more out of the Knicks, and it looked like it worked.
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by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
makes no sense...
so basically including Gallo is that dude’s reasoning as a OK offer on our part since he’ll cost money against the cap and take us out of 2012’s market?
That’s bullshit to be honest. At worst he’s trade bait + Billups for a PG like CP3, or he improves and forms as good a nucleus as any.
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The article has it's flaws
But I like the reasoning behind it. We have to put things into perspective: The goal is to beat the Heat or Bulls in the next couple of years. Standing pat and hoping that Gallo and Felton develop into All-Stars is very complacent behavior imo.
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There is a difference
between standing pat and giving away the house.
This trade won’t help us to beat Heat (Bulls – maybe), so what do we win? One extra round of playoffs?
You're looking at it as a short-term deal
We’d lose Chandler to free agency. So, let’s look at the team next season, and see what it would look like after the deal, what would be different about the roster:
Gallo for Melo
Felton for Billups
+filler for filler
That’s basically what you’re looking at. Yes, it doesn’t change the team as much this season. But with a couple of role players, this team is ready to compete.
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Chandler can be traded like Lee was for assets
what if we got a 1st round pick for Chandler?
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What if
Melo is a star now. We know what we’re getting. While I like Chandler and Gallo, their future is unclear. We could get a 1st rounder, yes. But it’s not 100% certain. Hell, if we don’t get Melo, we’d probably keep Chandler anyway.
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the difference
between those two scenarios is 23 million bucks a year of cap space, give or take.
It's quite likely that Mike D'Antoni will accomplish something that Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, and Isiah Thomas couldn't do: Win a playoff game. So, obviously, small ball doesn't work.
I see the point of Billups' $15 mill expiring vs. Felton's 8
but I don’t see the point of giving up Gallo.
We don’t want to be complacent and match the Heat. We want to beat the Heat. Big 4, not big 3, is the way to go.
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I think the Knicks have a shot to be competitive THIS YEAR.
trading all these players away throws away 2011. The more we keep the more competitive we’ll be right away.
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This year?
This team would maybe cause a first round upset. That’s it. No way we beat out the Celtics, Heat, Lakers or Spurs in a 7 game series. It’d be fun to watch, but we would in no way, shape or form be competitive.
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IF we kept Gallo, Fields and added Melo
bet your ass we’re contending.
Hell I thought we could beat the Celtics without Melo. And I bet everyone here would play like the world was lifted off their shoulders after all this bullcrap ended.
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Yea, but that's not this year
Obviously, it’d be best to get him via FA. Nobody in their right mind would think otherwise.But it’s starting to look like we’ll only get him if we trade for him.
Obviously, if he hits free agency and signs with us, I’ll be jumping up and down with joy. And yes, you’re right, this team+Melo is a contending team.
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actually that is this year
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Oh
You meant deal him for Chandler, Curry+1st rounder. That’s not happening, seeing as we have no leverage unless Melo flat out says he won’t sign the extension in Denver.
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I doubt Denver wants to sign him or he wants to sign there.
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Cartoon image
A picture of the SS Finally Afloat just leaving the shipyard. A love smitten Dolan gazing at Carmelo (wearing a CAA hat) and pointing a cannon at the ship’s hull. In Dolan’s earpiece the voice of Zeke yelling, "take the shot Jimmy! I’m back! Walsh rows back to Stern who says, “you can remove the fool some of the time but you can’t stop the fool being fooled all of the time.”
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Hahn is saying that 2 different sources told him that Melo WONT sign extention with Nets and wont say so publically so to not disrespect NJ
Cheering for the "Wrong" New York Teams Since 1995
if true then Walsh knows it
and we decrease the offer to more tolerable terms.
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Jonathan Abrams of the NY Times is reporting the same thing. Why didn’t Melo tell that to Dolan?
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by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd assume Walsh/Dolan/MDA have known for a long, long time how Melo feels
which is why we didn’t try to counter the Nets offer in January. and Dolan didn’t panic then, did he? yet another reason why I think the Dolan thing is entirely false
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Can Melo play the 2 guard?
I know he’s not a great shooter but with Billups and Gallo in the lineup, I’m not to sure it would matter much… Still on the fence on who I’d rather have between Gallo or Landry/Moz though
doesn't matter
Gallo basically plays the 2 anyway
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This year
Everyone is thinking about how this leaves a gaping hole at certain spots this year…right now I cant be any happier because I’m 150% sure we’re getting Chris Paul. If anyone is willing to lose money to be here it’s Chris Paul. It’s going to happen. We’re making our own big 3. ITS GOING DOWN!!!!!
There's still next season
We won’t have CP3 then. He’ll still be playing for New Orleans. While I would love to have him here, it’s a fantasy and nothing more until we propose a trade.
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It doesn't matter
A) there likely won’t be a next season
B) its so obvious this is what’s going down…it’s glaringly obvious
C) the Hornets are such a terrible situation, whoever takes over that team KNOWS cp3 is gone, have billups and some picks, PEACE
by James Angelo on Feb 19, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I will put money on there being a next season.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
by Joamiq on Feb 19, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what about jr smith
idk bout anybody else but if we are giving up ill wil and gallo/fields then i wouldnt mind jr smith being added
he would be insane in mdas system
something like this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=48cekbj
with a first rounder going to denver from minnesota
JR is fine with me
doesn’t interfere with CP3 cap room
by James Angelo on Feb 19, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
he wouldn't play
if dude infuriates George Karl he’d get under Pringles skin even easier.
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Being a starter and 3rd option on the team would motivate him or bury him
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What about the Nuggets though?
He seems to really want his money, and even though the fans hate him now, they’d probably come to like him again. I’m not saying it’s plausible, just something to think about.
Let’s get back to Chandler, Curry, and AR, that’s an easy pill to swallow. I might even be convinced of Felton for Billups in crunch time even if it would suck.
I'd have to say so.
Sucks, but you can never be too sure.
dont think the nuggets are going to risk losing him for nothing over the hope that they can resign him
either way they wont win it this year or for the next few years it seems
but right now they really have no levarage
i feel like donnie will find a way out of this trade without giving up gallo or fields
what about douglas being included in the trade?
If they don't want the Knicks' offer, who knows?
As for Douglas, that’s tough. What would we do about a backup PG? Unless you’re saying Douglas for Billups which could turn out very badly.
I'd rather trade Felton than Gallo or Fields
just because 18 months from now he’s the one we’ll likely miss least
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My thoughts exactly.
If by some odd twist of fate, the Knicks become convinced that Denver’s gonna keep him if the trade isn’t Chandler, Curry, Felton, and AR for Melo, Billups, and filler, that shouldn’t stop Donnie. This same crap won’t happen with Paul/DWill next year (at least to this extent); the new CBA will be in place. Felton can’t be untouchable.
Still gotta make it 18 months before we get to that point though
I think we can all agree that MDA’s system relies heavily on a good PG. Think about this: why is Denver including Billups (a solid leader who wants to finish his career in Denver) in every trade proposal?
I’m not hating on the guy, but it really, really doesn’t make sense to give up a 26 year old entering his prime, who nearly made the All-Star team, for a 35 year old who doesnt want to leave his current team
Denver is including Billups because
he’s making a lot of money, and they’re trying to see if there’s some way they can get under the luxury tax line. It has nothing to do with how good he is.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I feel like you gotta factor it in though
The Knicks wanna have cap space too, but they’re not passing on Melo because he’d chew it up. I feel like if they really thought Chauncey was worth keeping around, they’d hold onto him. Know what I’m sayin?
Denver
wants to rebuild, go young and free up cap space. That’s why they are including Chauncey. He wouldn’t hurt us at all contract wise but he hurts them more because of the above reasons. Chauncey still has a few years left in him. Look at Nash and how he is still producing big time at his age. Chauncey may not be as good as he was 5 years ago but can still produce, shoot and his experience will come in handy during playoff time. Chauncey, Fields, Gallo, Melo, Stat, etc etc, now that will be deadly.
Denver's in a different position
For us, right now, adding pieces to contend is more important than preserving cap space. For Denver, cap space (and rebuilding in general) is all that matters right now.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Definitely food for thought.
However, the counter argument is that Chauncey Billups with a 14 million expiring (I know there’s a team option, but still) is not a useful piece to keep on a rebuilding team.
Next year
Theres gonna this same exact mess with CP3 and w.e list of teams he wants to go to. After making the proposed deal, the Knicks will have no more tradeable assets to reel CP3 via trade. And I’m sure N.O doesn’t wanna lose him for nothing.
Mozgov Smash!
by the_knicks_are_back on Feb 19, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions
on a somewhat related topic
if 2012 comes and we have cap space for one max player
would u guys rather have dwight howard or cp3
personally i would maybe go with dwight because him and amare together will be insane
and the 3 will be the by far the best frontcourt in the nba
Depends on who we trade for 'Melo.
If we take Billups back, Paul hands down. If we keep Felton, probably Howard, although it’s unlikely we can have Felton AND Howard. Can you imagine that starting lineup, though?
Felton
Fields
‘Melo
Amar’e
Howard
Take that and shove it, Heat.
Actually, we can have Felton/Howard
but only if we trade with Orlando. (same with Paul no matter what) I don’t see Howard coming to NY though
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some Turiaf/Mozzy/Fields/Gallo thing works for Howard
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It's possible there's gonna be no soft cap with the new CBA, though.
Which might screw us out of having them both in 2012 depending on logistics. I agree about Howard, though. If he leaves, it’s probably for the Lakers.
It will be very difficult to transition from a soft cap to a hard cap
My guess is that we’ll just see some incremental changes, like reducing the maximum length of contracts.
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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
lack of soft cap wouldn't change the trade initially being viable
and I don’t think a potential hard cap will eliminate Bird rights in situations where a re-signing would push a team over the hard cap. nobody will want that.
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You're right, but I figured I'd play devil's advocate.
I can’t imagine there being such a huge change.
We would have absolutely no bench
But damn…the thought’s pretty scary. Part of me wants him to stay there though. I hate the fact that this is becoming a “who gets more superstars on their team” league, and I hate the fact that we’re starting to emulate these teams. That’s why, if I wasn’t a Knick fan and could choose any team, I’d be falling in love with the Thunder.
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I would take Howard too
but would have to probably fire MDA because he wouldn’t play him. Besides, it be kind of hard to play both Stat and Howard in the MDA type system, but it’s nice thinking about it or on NBA 2K 11 lol
but cp3 will be in a different situation seing as the new cba will be in place at that time
so for him waiting for free agency or taking an extension by trade will not mean he will lose millions
because most likely it will be the same contract he wud be able to get
so if melo and amare are already on the knicks
cp3 wud probably wait it out and join as a free agent
Agreed
CP3, Howard, Deron Williams will all be looking to join a triplet team. I could see the Bulls trying to grab Howard in a trade but that still leaves the Knicks as the major player looking to add an elite point guard to play with Melo and Stat. We’d have our choice of either player
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We all thought this was the case
But there’s still that Denver team…
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Now here's the bad news
Dolan is still involved in the negotiations.
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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Please turn your caps off
It is bad news because there is no evidence that Dolan is a competent negotiator. He will probably send Denver far more than is necessary to close the deal, perhaps to the point of degrading the Knicks for this season.
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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
yep
and the knicks’ run this season will merely be a footnote to the isiah thomas regime.
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by mindcontrolproject on Feb 20, 2011 7:23 AM EST up reply actions
What about Nash
Seems unlikely, but I can see our FO try to parlay Billups and somehow acquire Nash. If we can get him for a couple, let’s say, Billups (basically expiring), Azu and Bully, I think that’d be pretty interesting.
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Would be nice, but I doubt it.
Suns seem unwilling to trade Nash unless he asks, and he’ll never in a million years ask to be traded.
Let’s see we have in effect traded Lee, Gallo, Chandler, Felton,
Curry, Jeffries, three #1s for in effect Melo. Good job!!!
Didn’t we trade Jeffries & 2 #1s for Tracy McGrady?
I think Amar'e Stoudemire is in there somewhere
easy to overlook, I know, but we have him still.
Also we didn’t do anything yet.
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You can't look at it that way
Lee was leaving, and it was a sign and trade. Those are never fair deals and we should be happy with what we got.
Jeffries and the #1’s were traded to make room for a potential LeBron/other superstar pairing. It didn’t happen.
Oh yea, we somehow managed to use that cleared up cap space and sign this guy named Amar’e.
I just don’t understand how you can take all the trades we’ve ever done and say we’re only getting Melo. That type of thinking is stupid and narrow minded. Oh yea, and we haven’t traded for anybody yet.
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Beck's article in the NYT suggests that idiot Dolan is behind all of this
What a disaster. Let Donnie do his job. How can Dolan be so overconfident, after all that has happened, to still think he knows best? If this Gallo/Chandler/Felton deal goes through, we will be the laughing stocks of the league.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Feb 19, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions
Why chase CP3 or D-Will
When you aleady have Felton for a lot less money, is beyond me.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions
My thoughts too.
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Because
1) Felton is not as good as those two
2) His third year option is, I think, for $10 mil, which is probably not a whole lot less than whatever the max is going to be under the new CBA
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Thats why you sign him to a 5-6 year contract extention this offseason
To a mid-level contract and watch him blossom with Melo and Amare.
Also, why in gods name do the Nuggets want Felton, when they already have Ty Lawson as a young, up and coming pg
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well
If, and I reapeat, IF, the reports are true, then we’re the ones trying to get Billups, not the Nuggets trying to deal him.
What is a mid-level contract anyway? Like Joamiq said, if it’s the 10 million he’s due, then that’d be overpaying imo, especially when you can get a MVP caliber PG for a couple million more.
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I'd say teh Nuggets are trying to get Felton (just like they were trying to get Harris)
more so than anyone wanting Billups. Felton is probably a better trade asset than Billups.
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That makes sense to me as well
Which is why I was surprised to hear that we were the ones asking for Chauncey. I’d rather we keep him.
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Billups is in the Nets deal too. Obviously they’re the ones trying to get rid of him.
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by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Raymond isn't signed long-term
So we’d need a new deal, and he’d definitely be getting paid more than he is now.
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Knicks have a 3rd year team option for Felton
So maybe if they exercise it, thus indicating that he’s our man, and they passed up CP3 and D-Will, Felton will appreciate it and sign for less?
Because all 3 will be free agents in 2012 anyway
Why not pay the best player?
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Because you'd be paying them so much more
And thus the rest of the team suffers
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
But you'd have stat, melo, williams or cp3
who is suffering?
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I love Ray
but he ain’t in that class.
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Not yet
He was locked in a dungeoun with the Bobcats, give him a few years of playing on a competent team and we will see what Felton is made of
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I know who Ray Felton is dating back to his UNC days
dude’s a fast break menace and a waterbug with the rock. But his court vision has always lacked and while he can be a good shooter at times, he’s very streaky.
CP3’s vision was always his strong suit. Williams is more of a bigger Felton which is probably a good thing and helps his vision out.
I’d agree Ray can get better, but Ray is Ray. He’ll never be at that tier and that’s not necessarily a knock on him.
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Waiting to see if he becomes 75% of the player CP3 is
Or getting CP3 at a comparable price (under the new CBA). Hmm…
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Because he is Raymond Felton
and they are Chris Paul and Deron Williams
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(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
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Because Felton is not as good. He has never shown up against Boston, Miami, Lakers and other teams. He also cost us some games we could have easily won. There are times when Gallo and others only get 4 shot attempts while Felton is 4 for 17. CP3 is a superstar for a reason while Felton is a decent point guard, but not even in the top 5.
GUYS, STOP BUYING INTO THE DOLAN FEAR MONGERING
He may not be the ideal owner, but he hasn’t meddled with personnel in a negative way since Walsh was hired, at all. The Knicks beat writers have a long-standing hatred of Dolan due to his refusal to grant them unlimited access to the team, and this bias affects their current interpretation of events. If Dolan were really panicking, he’d have given up the farm when the Nets were actually in the race in January – but he didn’t. Or maybe he’d have made a trade this morning – and nothing has happened as of yet. Don’t panic because some asshole beat writers have a grudge against Dolan – panic if something bad actually happens.
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Finally
I wanted to write this and thank goodness somebody had the sense to say it. There is no evidence whatsoever that Dolan is “meddling” with this deal, aside from the fact that he met with Melo. Take it easy guys.
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Dolan fear mongering?
He’s been hands off since hiring Donnie, true. But does that mean we ignore the rest of the last 10 years? Or the fact that the person whispering advice into his ear is Isiah? As a Knick fan who has been suffering for a long time, I have every right to be afraid of anything Dolan touches.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
But does that mean we ignore the rest of the last 10 years?
Which is what, as far as personnel goes? His greatest crime was making the beat writers his enemies, and while Dolan hasn’t been great, he’s also had every misstep made into a crisis situation by the people who he pissed off.
Or the fact that the person whispering advice into his ear is Isiah?
And what evidence is there of this being true?
As a Knick fan who has been suffering for a long time, I have every right to be afraid of anything Dolan touches.
I don’t like Dolan either. Just keep in mind that the last time he met with a non-Knick, it ended with Amare signing a contract to play here. As owner, he has to have a role in personnel moves, but there’s no evidence that he’s been anything other than the tool Donnie and MDA use to finalize an acquisition.
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Amar'e never met with Dolan before he came here(talk about buying into beat writers opinions...)
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
doesn't mean he met with him to come here.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and by all accounts, Melo decided he wanted to come here long before he ever met with Dolan
whatever panic you’re drawing from Dolan meeting with Melo is pure conjecture. as of now, the teams are still negotiating, the Knicks haven’t given up anything, and Walsh/MDA are doing their jobs just as they have since being hired. there is nothing else to rationally consider at the moment.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
He did meet with Dolan before he signed
Amare had been recruited already by Walsh and co, but I remember reading that Dolan took Amare to a party in the Hamptons the night before he signed
Which Amar'e never said he attended
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Dolan
Until he hired Walsh, his front office hiring was a nightmare. We may have never fallen into this abyss if he had hired competent people, or not stuck by incompetent ones.
I don’t feel the need to point to any particular evidence that he’s close with Isiah. This is very, very well known – not just by Knicks beat writers, but by pretty much all NBA reporters. It’s also clear from things Isiah has said.
More than anything, perhaps, it’s alarming that someone would continue throwing his cash into a burning fire, which is basically what Dolan did for all the years that the Knicks’ strategy appeared to be to go as far over the cap as possible.
I’m not saying anything about Dolan’s role in these negotiations. I have no idea what they actually are. I’m just saying that the mere mention of him frightens me, and I think I’m very well justified in feeling that way.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Until he hired Walsh, his front office hiring was a nightmare. We may have never fallen into this abyss if he had hired competent people, or not stuck by incompetent ones.
He made bad hires, but everyone he hired was a guy who had had at least moderate success elsewhere in the NBA. Isiah was coming off a controversial firing as Pacers coach, and all the coaches brought through the door were well-respected beforehand.
I don’t feel the need to point to any particular evidence that he’s close with Isiah. This is very, very well known – not just by Knicks beat writers, but by pretty much all NBA reporters. It’s also clear from things Isiah has said.
Except that most of it is conjecture? and many of those very same “reporters” said Dolan was infuriated with Isiah after the draft workout fiasco became public and had cut off all personal ties?
More than anything, perhaps, it’s alarming that someone would continue throwing his cash into a burning fire, which is basically what Dolan did for all the years that the Knicks’ strategy appeared to be to go as far over the cap as possible.
it was his execs making the moves, was it not? Dolan was hands-off more than anything
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
He made bad hires, but everyone he hired was a guy who had had at least moderate success elsewhere in the NBA. Isiah was coming off a controversial firing as Pacers coach, and all the coaches brought through the door were well-respected beforehand.
I don’t see why I have to give a guy a pass for consistently making bad hires. With that track record, I think it’s fair to assume that there is something wrong with his decision making.
Except that most of it is conjecture? and many of those very same "reporters" said Dolan was infuriated with Isiah after the draft workout fiasco became public and had cut off all personal ties?
How can you claim that it’s conjecture? Dolan himself publicly says that he solicits Isiah’s opinions. In writing.
it was his execs making the moves, was it not? Dolan was hands-off more than anything
No exec spends his owner’s money without getting his approval first.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I don’t see why I have to give a guy a pass for consistently making bad hires. With that track record, I think it’s fair to assume that there is something wrong with his decision making.
You don’t. It just has no bearing on the situation at hand.
How can you claim that it’s conjecture? Dolan himself publicly says that he solicits Isiah’s opinions. In writing.
“said,” “solicited”
No exec spends his owner’s money without getting his approval first.
of course. it doesn’t mean Dolan put a lot of effort into it other than saying “you’re the basketball people, do what you think is right.” A lot of owners do that, and Dolan has never shown any indication of being anything other than hands-off.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
You don’t. It just has no bearing on the situation at hand.
I never said anything about what, if any, bearing it has on the situation at hand. I was responding to your suggestion that all negative opinions of Dolan derive from fear mongering. They do not. Mine derive from his track record running the Knicks.
"said," "solicited"
He “said”, quite recently, that he “will continue to solicit [Isiah’s] views.” So if your implication is that it’s all in the past… it’s clearly not.
of course. it doesn’t mean Dolan put a lot of effort into it other than saying "you’re the basketball people, do what you think is right." A lot of owners do that, and Dolan has never shown any indication of being anything other than hands-off.
If it’s true that Dolan was so hands off in letting his execs spend freely, tens of millions above the salary cap and luxury tax lines, that only makes me think even less of his decision making capabilities. I fear the man, and I fear anything he’s involved with that I care about.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Stop acting like everyone's basing all this off what beat writers are saying
Dolan is a nut, we all know this and since he DID meet with Melo, I’m scared shitless that he’s doing anything.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Dolan is a nut, we all know this
None of us know the guy. once again, I don’t like him either, but let’s face it – most of what we know about Dolan has been shaped by beat writers who don’t like him.
and since he DID meet with Melo, I’m scared shitless that he’s doing anything.
For all we know, he’s there talking extension with Melo while Donnie is talking trade logistics. After all, it’s Dolan’s money Melo will be receiving. Players like to see a visualization of their future piggybanks.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
You make a lot of sense
But I hope that you understand the anxiety that Dolan’s recent involvement in the negotiations raises in fans (or at least in me.) Until this concludes in a way that seems like something that Donnie would do, I’m not going to give Dolan the benefit of the doubt.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
I think it's fair to everyone to not assume anything
and to not buy into anything that’s clearly made-up unless it comes true.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
What concerns me is the meddling that may occur if Melo isn't acquired
Dolan has always been a tabloid pawn for beat writers but there is a possibility Walsh may be gone if Melo isn’t here. Think about the NY media field day— “Knicks lose out on LeBron and Melo”
It will get ugly
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
If something bad happens
isnt it too late to panic?
The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.
Amare has a max-contract atm
5 years- 100 millions dollars. Aka, $20 million a year. I don’t see CP3 asking for any less, even with the new CBA, id say he’ll make $17 million a year.
If the Knicks give Felton a Mike Conley Jr. type extention: 5 years, $45 million dollars, you pay him $9million a year, and with the new CBA, it might be 7.5 or 8 million a year.
Thus, you’ll be saving $10 million a year on a bit of a downgrade, but that money could allow you to add a marc gasol, or a nene or a another stud of felton’s level
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions
so you're saying we'd pay Felton more?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Thats your opinion
I disagree, but thats hardly the point im making. What im trying to say is that the Knicks would save a lot of money by holding on to Felton instead of chasing d-will or cp3, which would allow them to add another piece at around 7-10 million a year
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
sorry misread
thought you were suggesting we should acquire mike conley.
i think you have a good point, but if you can get chris paul, i think you have to.
I like Felton as much of the next guy but I think you are vastly over rating his skill set in comparison with the best PG's in the league
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(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
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Felton playing out of his mind is at best JUST as good as CP3 on an average day
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(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
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Give Felton some time to bond
with melo/amare. I think he will change your mind
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
you may well be right but I honestly think that this is as good as Ray is going to get
and especially if trading is the difference between getting melo or not then I say trade him especially if we can get an experienced Championship winning PG to replace him. I also think there will be FA PG’s lining up to play with Melo and Amar’e so we will have the pick of the litter for the next few years
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(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
What about ty lawson
If we give up Felton, why cant we atleast get Lawson
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I like Lawson as well but I think the reality is whether we keep Felton or bring in Billups or Lawson
that player is more than likely only going to be our PG for the next season and a half and under that circumstance I prefer Billups.
He is the best shooter of the three players he is shooting .441 from 3 this year and that will only go up playing with Amar’e down low.
I have to be honest and say I haven’t watched a ton of nuggets games this season but I have always got the impression that Lawson is a great off the bench energy guy but never really viewed him as a starter Billups would step in and help us now and his experience would be invaluable in the playoffs.
I think the argument has been slightly skewed to be like Billups is no good, I think he is still a well above average PG and with him I think we could make some noise.
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
LOL
Felton will not earn 5 million a year by the time his payday comes. No way.
Nene will have to be acquired next offseason, and there will be many teams offering him money. Gasol is a restricted FA.
I highly doubt anybody here would rather have Felton than CP3, even with all the financial details involved. He’s worth the extra 7 million.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Gasol and Nene
Are just names i threw up as examples of the types of players we can add for the money we save.
And you clearly have a problem with math if you think that 45/5 is 5, and not 9. We can pay Felton 7.5-9mil a year and use the money left over to make the team better. Add CP3, and you’ll end up like the heat, with Mike Miller, Igalskus and Mario Chalmers as your next best players
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ooops, division isn't my strongest skill at 11:30 pm
I get the point you’re trying to make man, seriously. But if you add the 3 deals, you’re looking at this:
Carmelo’s 21million+Amare’s 20 million+Feltons 9 million=50 million. The cap this year is at around 58 I believe. It will get much, much lower with the new CBA. So we’d have a couple more million dollars of financial wiggle room. But what happens when Gallo or Fields become restricted FAs? We’ll need to cough up money to resign them, especially Gallo.
So the point I’m making is that, under the new CBA, we’ll likely have to cough up roughly 14 million for CP3. I’d rather do that and fill out the roster like the Heat did than pay a couple million less to a lesser player, while having 5 million more left over. It’s not as big a difference as you think.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Ye, but under the new CBA, Felton won't make the 9 million a year
If we resign him this offseason, or the next, he’ll make like 7 million a year, and knowing him, he wouldn’t wanna leave the Knicks, not with the team they are forming. Cp3 will nonetheless cost a lot more money which would be the difference betweeen your next best player being Chalmers or a Marc Gasol
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
No one knows yet what the new CBA will be like
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Sadly
And thats screwing the Knicks the most in all this
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
What makes you think you "know him"
It would defy logic for him to take less money than what he’d be offered in the 3rd year of this deal. It’s reasonable to expect him to be signed for 9 million, or something in that neighbourhood.
Also, Marc Gasol is going to get a hefty payday this offseason, and it’ll probably be from the Grizzlies. There are no other players of his callibur in FA which we can reasonably expect to sign here.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
Nene, tyson chandler
Then theres 2012, and i dont really remember who’ll be a free agent then. And he’ll make less than what is offered in his 3rd year because its a player option and the new CBA would force him to
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
There is no way that Felton agrees to a deal with an AAV of less than the value of his option year.
Amare’s “max contract” is bigger than it would otherwise be because it was a sign and trade. That mechanism may not be available under the new CBA. The current veteran’s max is $14 mil. I’d guess that would go down to about $12 mil under the new CBA. The spread between Felton and Paul may be much smaller than your math indicates.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
And look at what we are doing with Melo
Getting into another sign and trade. And the same will happen when its CP3’s contract year, for the fear of losing him. And if the max contract is gonna be $12 million a year, how in god’s name will anyone sign felton for $10 mill a year when you can get CP3 for $12 mil. It makes no sense. CP3 will get Amare like money because by that time, the Lakers will need a replacement for fisher/kobe and plenty of teams will be buyers.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Again,
the sign and trade exists now. It may not exist under the new CBA. I agree that if the max is that low, then that may affect how much Felton makes. My point is only that the spread between them is likely to be smaller than you make it out to be.
Under the new CBA, no one will get “Amare like money”.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Eh, we'll see
Also, im Melo really wants to play in NY, he’d come to the Knicks after the new CBA so we can save money AND build the best team. We can only wish though lol
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone is the same.
They want their $$$$$$$$
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i dont really get why
Cause they’ll still be making soooooo much money and the money they won’t be making will be made up with NY endorsements
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
The NY endorsement theory has been debunked by sports marketers
Apparently these days it doesn’t really make much difference where you are – if you’re a star, you’re going to get your endorsement dollars
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
True, but winning a championship in NYC
is worth the paycut imo
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, well it would be to you and me...
but unfortunately the CBA uncertainty seems to be scaring Melo. He wants his $$$ guaranteed (and I can’t say I really blame him).
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Either way
He’s friggin rich as hell lol
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
lol, speak for yourself
I have no doubt in mind that i will be a millionare by the time i’m 30. Good looks, confidence and intelligence takes a man a long way :)
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
I am humble,
But i am also very confident in myself.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I take it you haven't experienced the job market yet
it’s a brand new shitty world out there
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
For some it is
For others it isn’t. I’m not your average human being.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, only fools wait for luck
Others make their own luck :)
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Confidence is a good thing
Just be careful. Sometimes younguns get a bit overconfident with their entrepreneurial initiatives and start dealing in things they shouldn’t… and then they get caught and pay the price. And that makes the road to success in the real world much, much more difficult.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
You might want to reevaluate your business plan
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
I think it ends tomorrow....
It’s constipating many more deadline deals.
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 19, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
So if a deal goes down, does Patrick Ewing, Jr. get called up to the Knicks?
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Has it been confirmed that Donnie is actually in LA?....
or is he home in NY?
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 19, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions
If i were him
Id be in LA for a variety of reason, primary one being the nice weather lol
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
In absolutely worse news
We just ran out of bbq sauce at home and i have to use ketchup now. I’m a mess atm
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:01 PM EST reply actions
I do prefer average ketchup to average bbq sauce, usually
though there is some bbq sauce that is off the hook. I don’t think I’ve ever had off the hook ketchup.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
what is it toping?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
oh yeah
ketchup is a no go there. Got some Italian dressing or something? that would be better…
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Ye lol, but i ended up using Ketchup
BBQ sauce is beastly with just about everything
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Depends what kind of ketchup...
Generic ‘tomato sauce’ is pitiful. Also, don’t forget the little used secret of ketchup w/ tabasco. Or…get some Siriciha in the Asian Food Aisle at the grocer. Mix it in with the ketchup.
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Wow, great trade
The Nuggets really needed another solid player and his versatility of being able to play multiple postions
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks couldn't top that in a million years.
Oh well, move on.
Melo and The Russian Brushed Shoulders in LA
“Get Away from Me” said Melo “I’m not fuckin’ interested”
Blueshirt Banter - "In Kovalev We Trust"
by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 19, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions
OK...
Now that it’s almost clear that Melo wants no part of the Nets.. why are people still talking about giving up Gallo and Fields? Our offer should be in OUR best interest alone. So please lets stop the talk about the other guys!
by Landry for prez on Feb 19, 2011 6:45 PM EST reply actions
I think that's why nothing has happened yet
the Nuggets are desperately trying to get Gallo or Fields, but the Knicks know time is on our side
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
To me it's like this
The Knicks gave them a choice of Gallo or Fields, they chose Gallo, and now they’re asking for Fields or Mozgov! I can see why Prok told them to take a hike and I’m thinking the same thing.
THEY GET NEITHER
They get a first round pick and WIlson Chandler. That’s all… There isn’t a single other team that wants to deal with Denver’s nonsense.
by Landry for prez on Feb 19, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
They also get Curry
and if they ask nicely, they can have RMJ too.
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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
To me it's like this
most if not all of those reports are not true
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I haven't read everything here
but I will just say that as much as I love Gallo, I’d rather lose him in a Carmelo deal that Fields and Mozgov, for the the simple reason that Gallo plays the same position as Carmelo and Fields and Mozgov play two different positions.
i say we start from scratch
and make the same offer of our players for a deal centered around renaldo balkman. if the nuggets agree to this tentative arrangement, they can then throw in melo, billups, or whoever. but i think balkman is the guy we should be making a centerpiece.
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by ny knickerbocker on Feb 19, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions
The Nets are meeting with Anthony tonight, according to Frank Isola.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 7:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not really a meeting...
It’s just Melo entering the room, telling them he’s not interested and leaving the room.
Blueshirt Banter - "In Kovalev We Trust"
by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 19, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
but definitely complementing the Nets wives....
and saying it’s just a shame…Lala would have fit right in.
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 19, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions
Brand new report
Melo to meet with Nets Brass on Saturday, reports Isola, seconded by Wojnarowski.
Strikes me
as a last ditch effort to get the Knicks to cave even more on their offer.
Or if it’s real, for Denver to Melo interested so they can get the package they want.
They're sending in Jay-Z!
H to the Izzo, V to the Izza!
Blueshirt Banter - "In Kovalev We Trust"
by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 19, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Dolan should give NaS a .01% stake
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(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
by Ozraider on Feb 19, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Donnie to Dolan right about now......
“Look you little crumbgrabber….THIS is when we take our phones off the hook for 24 hours….right fucking now.”
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 19, 2011 8:29 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah no matter what happens tonight Carmelo doesn’t give two shits about NJ. NJ doesn’t even give two shits about NJ.
by Landry for prez on Feb 19, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Melo might be playing Russian Roulette right now with Prokorov.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 19, 2011 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
A few thoughts about this rumored trade...
I don’t really like this trade if indeed it’s Gallo, Chandler, Felton, Randolph and Curry for Melo, Billups and change for several reasons:
1. I would really like to keep Felton out of this trade, just for the sake of continuity of what we’d started. He had 50 plus games to run our system, and getting a brand new point guard midseason, as experienced as it is, is basically putting ourselves in a position to lose quite a few winnable games in the first 10-15 games of Billups Knicks stint.
It’s not like we’re doing this overhaul in the off-season and getting the chance to have everybody in training camp, etc – everything Billups and Melo will learn will be on the go, and with our fragile position in the Eastern conference standing by the time we click (if we click, that is) it might be too late.
2. People keep saying that Billups puts us in a position to have a go for Chris Paul or Deron Williams. I think it’s actually the other way around. I find it unlikely that either will reach free-agency, and they may pull for a trade during the 2011-12 season (a-la Melo), in which case Felton is a much better pawn than a 36 years old Billups.
3. I also don’t like giving away both Gallo and Chandler because, as many had mentioned, that means our second unit’s only viable(ish) offensive option is Toney Douglas.
4. I would actually try not to include Randolph in the deal. Not because I think that now he could start contributing (though it’s possible), but because given all the assets we are shipping to Denver, it would be nice if we had 2 first round picks this coming draft to plug some of our gaping holes or to use as assets to acquire such players.
However, I coming around to think the following:
1. Billups, though will not be our point guard of the future, is still playing very good basketball. He’s the starting point guard of a winning West Coast team, we cannot underestimate that. He’s a good shooter, have high basketball IQ, and is a proven winner. How committed he will be for us is another question, as he seems to quiver at the thought of leaving Denver.
2. Regarding what will be left of our second unit, we shouldn’t forget that this is a D’Antoni system. It’s not unlikely that he will manage the minutes of Amar’e and Melo so that most of the time one of them will be on the floor (like they do with Wade and James in Miami).
Additionally, we may be able to pick up some solid players after the trade deadline if such will be bought out. We could certainly use a Troy Murphy for example. With Melo and Amar’e and playing time available, I’m assuming some veterans will see the Knicks as a very appealing destination after being waived.
3. If Randolph is included and is shipped to the TWolves, this may translate to us obtaining Telfair. And though I’m not in love with his game, he could be a decent backup point guard for us.
4. Who knows – maybe Azubuike is finally ready to rise up from the dead? that could also boost our second unit.
just trying to find a silver lining in all this. I certainly didn’t expect us (potentially) shipping so many players mid-season to acquire Anthony with Playoffs so visibly in the horizon.
Also, though I have thrown around the names of Gallo and Chandler in respect to a Melo trade quite freely, I must admit that with this deal (supposedly) happening I feel sad to see them go. Really liked both of them, especially Gallo.
I'm not a big fan of this trade either, but to be fair,
on your 2nd point, Billups’ larger expiring contract is likely to be a better trade chip. If that kind of thing is still an asset under the new CBA, at least.
I like that you’re trying to look at both sides. We really just don’t know whether this trade would end up being good or bad. Could go either way.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I guess the new CBA rules will determine how much of an asset Billups' expiring contract would be
But if the current rules (at least in this respect will be intact) why would they take Billups expiring contract if they can just let Paul and Williams’ contract run up in the summer anyway?
I think midseason, to be able to offer a package that centers around a young and proven (and on the periphery of an All Star invitation) point guard should be more desirable, I think.
In any event, all we can do is sit an wait. and whatever happens, I’m a Knicks fan since ’88 I will still be a Knicks fan.
You need to match contracts within 125% value if one team is over the cap
That makes it much easier to deal with Billup’s contract.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
yes but that cannot be the only "piece" of value
Why would anyone take just Billups for either players? With Felton, you are giving them a younger guy with a reasonable contract, which you then compliment with expiring, etc. I think that’s a better pill to swallow. Getting Chauncey straight up is a bad deal for both Utah and New Orleans.
Never said that Billups would be the only piece
I said that is easier to complete a deal, especially if the Knicks were to take an albatross contract off of New Orleans’ hands in addition to CP3.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
I can only assume
that the Nuggets have basically called Anthony’s bluff and told him that they won’t trade him unless his public posturing gives them as much leverage as possible – so he has to pretend he’s interested in the Nets so that they can drive up the price with the Knicks as much as possible. Otherwise, if they can’t get a deal they like, they’ll just hold on to him. Otherwise, all these conflicting rumors about his interest, or lack thereof, in the Nets just don’t make sense.
by dontstopbelieving on Feb 19, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions
this sums it up pretty well
the top two headlines on the yahoo sports front page are:
1. anthony to meet with nets
2. nets not meeting with anthony
the stupidity has to end sometime, right?
It's quite likely that Mike D'Antoni will accomplish something that Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, and Isiah Thomas couldn't do: Win a playoff game. So, obviously, small ball doesn't work.
by crazyeyes on Feb 19, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ha! Wow.
I had to see it for myself.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
by Joamiq on Feb 19, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol rec for both of you, crazyeyes for bringing it up, and you for the pic.
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
that's hilarious
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
hopefully someone knocks out dolan. i hate him i hate him i hate him.
why give up so much? why is he negotiation with himself? play some damn hardball
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
So, you're here too
Dolan needs to get this deal done at all costs
Blueshirt Banter - "In Kovalev We Trust"
by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 19, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
you mean at next to no costs
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
no..no he doesn't.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Isiah
is that you?
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
it definitley sounds like isiah
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
hes a little trollish. if u guys know anything about the rangers his only goal is to get kovalev back.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
aka Russian Rice Pudding
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
that is not a very good goal, infact it is a very bad goal
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
In other news...
Reggie Miller just unleashed the words of wisdom “Shooting is like a good lady, it stays with you your whole life.”
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
Also
really great that they let Kevin Durant into the 3pt shootout; he really held his own…
by dontstopbelieving on Feb 19, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
this made me laugh because he really didn't hold his own, infact he dropped his own
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
He also said "it is important to get off to a quick start on the 3pt contest"
Wow Reggie… that’s pretty deep right there.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Melo and Nets Have Handshake Deal
Stat, Dolan, get the fuck in there!!!
Blueshirt Banter - "In Kovalev We Trust"
by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 19, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions
good, let em go
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
from espn.com
Anthony was noncommittal after hearing the Nets’ presentation, not saying whether or not he would sign the three-year, $65 million contract extension that is a prerequisite for the deal. He told the Nets he will think about the situation and would like to have a resolution before the end of the weekend.
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
The preliminary reports are in...
This is the best dunk contest ever.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
I thought blake's and JaVales dunks of off the hook!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
JaVale McGee's was awesome
creativity (without being overly gimmicky) and difficulty
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
javeel shouldaa won
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Dude McGee took too long
Derozan’s second one was sick!
he did the hardest ones
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
After that incoherent intro from Daryl Dawkins
put the crowd into a state of shock, it didn’t matter what his dunks were
Aaah I can't watch til tmrw
GO MCGEE GO
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 19, 2011 10:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dunk contest is excellent this year
Even the missed dunks are alright. Barkley has me rolling too
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Pretty impressive dunk from DeRozan
what on earth is about to happen…
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
that derozen dunk was sick
I’m not really down wth the prop dunks
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
that was one of the better prop dunks though
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
I'm generally not either
That one was pretty decent though. I really liked Dwight Howard’s sticker dunk just because his smile on the sticker was hilarious
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Yeah Dwight has the personality to pull of 'comedy' dunks most other's wouldnt be able to pull it off
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Ibaka only got a 45?
That’s a travesty.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
BDiddy screwed blake on that one
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Fucked up that Derozan ain't in the finals
also Ibaka should be in it cuz that FT line dunk not getting a 50 is James Dolan
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yeah, DeRozan's 2nd was probably the most artful dunk of the night
Comparing Ibaka’s with say, Dr. J’s version, I have to say Dr. J’s seems more impressive just because of the speed, even if going slower is harder. Ibaka’s still probably deserved a slightly higher score than it got though.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
all of the guys had great dunks
tough competition but I agree that second DeRozen dunk was awesome, that and Blake’s first were the best imo.
It annoys me when they have to try a million times though it somewhat ruins it in a way
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Derozan's was teh best since he only had to try once
I guess they can’t let Griffen get knocked off but he really should be. Derozan’s the best dunker here, at least in the contest
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I wasn't very impressed with Griffin's first two
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
To be honest I don't think McGee's dunks were that impressive
and they were fundamentally the same dunk
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
The 2nd one was a little weak I thought
but I thought the 1st was pretty cool. That one looked pretty good, aside from simply being multiple dunks
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
yea they were just different
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
What's gonna happen on the Griffin final
Russian music starts, a band of Cossaks march out, with Timofey Mozgov bringing up the rear. What happens from there I don’t know…
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
hahahahaha
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Personally I liked that McGee dunk more than Griffin's
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
In slow motion it looked really impressive.
Life is the highway, but personal experiences are the journey
The final round has no judges
It’s all fan voting.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
which is bullshit
fucking popularity contest instead of who actually had the best dunks
by Taylor Made on Feb 20, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
AHHHHHH
My stream is fucked!!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Griffin just brought a car on stage
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap i'm back thank fuck
Is Mozgov in that crowd?
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
And a fucking choir
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
This is the career definer for Blake.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
lol, i love him
Talking so much shit
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
If this isn't the best dunk of all time it's just going to look incredibly stupid
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
HOLY SHIT IF HE MAKES THIS!!!!!!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Meh
I was more excited about seeing Spike Lee. The first McGee was better.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
GAME OVER!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
I agree with Chuck
I mean the hype was great and all, but eh….
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree with Charles Barkley
That wasnt the greatest dunk ever. It was aight
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, how high is the hood of the car from the ground? 3 feet MAX? If that?!
Dudes fucking 6’10"… and he can jump. Don’t be like like “he jumped OVER a car” when he kinda really jumped over the absolute lowest part. People sitting in chairs and stuff were taller obstacles in the past.
Good dunk, Kenny Smith sold that shit way too hard.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
and given we just saw that I think they knocked Ibaka's dunk on purpose
No way Griffen wasn’t making the finals
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Derozan got robbed dammit
gimme an actual creative dunk then all this other horseshit
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Kind of a copout considering what part of the car he jumped over.
Life is the highway, but personal experiences are the journey
Barkley and Dwight are fuckin hilarious tho
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I loved when Barkley was like "its a shame not many people know about JaVale McGee. He's talented... but aint no way in hell we showing a Wizards game on TV"
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
LMFAO
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Next year
You face the car vertically to the hoop, run up the hood of the car, jump off, do a 360 or through the legs and dunk it. Put the front of the car at the free throw line
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions
the car doesnt go past the ft line, so you have to jump
off the car from the ft line
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Or, drive the car back to the other end of the court with Blake on the hood, its drives forward and he jumps off.
Life is the highway, but personal experiences are the journey
going 70 miles per hour
and crashes into the crowd
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
That was some mad hops
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
there is no way Blake is going to lose a public vote
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
imma certaintly try
to change that lol
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, that was a little too easy
Not bad, but if you’re going to do something like that, you need to make it look better IMO
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I'm pretty undecided off the quality of the dunks,
but the Griffin hype machine annoyed me. Voting McGee
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Wow
He was looking down at the rim. McGee has some good working-class dunks, while Griffin has posh upper-class nonsense.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
agree, javeel really was better
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I still think Blake's dunks were better than McGee
not down with the multiple ball gimmick.
Dunk of the night was DeRozen hands down
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
I'm just gonna put this out there...
When Joamiq posts right before you, the box in the bottom right hand corner says “Joamiq Ozraider.” That’s the most badass name I’ve ever heard.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha does that make me half badass?
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
that makes you 51% badass, the last name you don't get to pick
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hell Yeah!!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Hahaha
I’m satisfied with being 49% of a badass name, if that’s where we come out on that
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
well you know what they say better 49% than 48%
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I may have to start a new career on 2k11
WE GOING TO THE HALL!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
i can't get out of the d-league, how can you play the my career
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
lol, i can play non-career and get 100 points with amare. but i can't make a shot
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol, i can play non-career and get 100 points with amare. but i can't make a shot
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
too much time on my hands
I just realised how sad that is………….i need a drink
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
lol
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh well.
Forget who won, we got to see some pretty nice dunks tonight
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
it was blake griffin hype, javeel mcgee should have won, i'm a little pissed
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
I didnt really care who won
But damn Ibaka needs to call LAPD about the robbery that just occured.
"Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9"
by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lol, how did he not get 50 for that 7footer
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
He got robbed.
Finals should’ve been Ibaka Griffin or Ibaka McGee.
"Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9"
by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'll take the ladder
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's Brent Barry's fault
when he did the free throw line takeoff, it totally ruined it for everyone
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
good call
I wonder if the dunk McGee said Ibaka did was the free throw dunk
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
I think it was the object in the teeth
I saw video of him practicing that one
by Taylor Made on Feb 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
agree
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ibaka's free throw line dunk
was the farthest dunk in history. I don’t think anyone has ever ACTUALLY taken off from the free throw line, they’re always like a foot in front of it.
by Taylor Made on Feb 20, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I'm saying...
they didn’t let him in cuz Griffen had the car prop on its way. No way he wasn’t making the finals.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Look at the bright side
Those dunks might replace the Mozzy-Gallo ones in the Blake montages.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
i hope, plus mozzy had a nice dunk on blake that they seem to forget about
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
McGee shouldve saved one of the multiball dunks
for the Finals.
"Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9"
by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
agree, the first one
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Lets be honest,
the second that car rolled onto the court, Blake won.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
which was unfair, mcgee shoulda put some props out there
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I was disappointed by the car one.
Don’t get me wrong its impressive but the 2 and 3 ball dunks were definently better. Especially for McGees lanky ass lol
"Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9"
by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
was anyone else annoyed at the commentary?
especially Charles.
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
very much
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't mind it.
Barkley annoys me a little bit but that’s because he’s Charles Barkley.
"Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9 Number 9"
by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
seemed like he was just shitting on everybody
and what was with dissing the little kids haircut??
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
yea he was being a duche
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I was literally crying when Barkley was getting his Auburn called out
He was like “Oh you done it now boy, I gon’ kill ya”
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
somebody shoulda said you can kill me but you can't save the tree's
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
It was cool how Baron popped out of the sun roof
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
it was cooler how mcgee called out superman tho
Dear FOX...
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
True that
Dwight was like WTF? hahah
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(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
i was litterly rolling on the floor laughing
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
In other news
The Longest Yard is an amazing movie
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions
it is really good
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
what im watching
Will help me get over griffin winning this
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
it should, chris rock and adam sandler make a good duo
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
I flipped it over to Adult Swim for The Boondocks
niggah
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
i'm gonna play some 2k11, gotta make this dunk contest right
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
You can finish that one
I got 5 more rofl
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
i love that part, lol
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy to hear Barkley call Fields the best pure rookie and Griffin a red shirt rookie
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
that is what it is tho, i find it not crazy but very sane
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy because all media has already annointed Griffin and you rarely hear Fields get his due
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
that's because everybody hates ny and fields gets overshadowed by amare, blake is all alone
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
True and Barkley usually kills the knicks...it was interesting to hear it from him
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
he's been suprisingly good to the knicks this year, it must be an i hope that 7 foot russian doesn't kick my ass thing
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
What are they gonna say?
“And yet ANOTHER fundementally sound rebound anticipation! Fields is on FIRE!”
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol!
This is exactly what I was thinking
Griffin does what everybody loves to see, and it helps that he plays for the Clippers.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So its all about the dunks?
Tim Duncan is called the big fundamental there is no flash to his game. So rookie of the year goes to whoever gets the best dunks now?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
the Spurs in general have no flash to their game.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no, they have less flash then clevland
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Cleveland has a basketball team?
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no but ohio does
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Sad how far you fall when you lose your star player
I guess that’s why Denver can’t make up their mind
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
seemed like Barkley had some Blake hate tonight
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
we all hade a little
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
yep
but as Meow pointed out hopefully we won’t have to see that Mozzy dunk anymore
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
agree we can only hope tho
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't even a dunk! :/
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Oh come on
Admit that it was amazing.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I still believe that the way Griffin grabbed Mozzie's head should have made it an offensive foul
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
it was, but nba refs suck
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Total push off
that’s a penalty in the NFL let alone the NBA
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
lol+1
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
not really, i thought the one mozzy hade on blake was better
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
That was awesome Barkley gave Fields some props,
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Gallo has potential but....
I would not hesitate to trade potential for proven. Melo is the real deal.
i would never trade gallo but it is not my choice
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
This is a happy place for happy thoughts right now.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Keyword: happy.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
damnit SNL is a rerun
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Highlight of the Night:
McGee shutting Barkleys hating ass up for a little bit with the 3 ball dunk.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
highlight was mcgee calling out dwight howard
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not for me
I love me some Dwight Howard.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so do i but that was hilarious
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Asiago Chicken with Ravioli
Looks absolutely delicious. Imma go to Olive Garden
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions
Soooooo.....
http://twitter.com/CBSSportsNBA/status/39178261963603968
Life is the highway, but personal experiences are the journey
i love it, wish i could believe it, tho it's implying that he's going to ny so that is good
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
would prefer cp3 tho
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
ok this is starting to get rediculas
hope it’s true though, I love me some CP3 but his knees worry me
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
it is as true as it sounds
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
"Deron Williams has informed associates"
Is he in the mob or something?
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
And for the record, I would prefer Williams.
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
y, cp3 is better, tho there both great
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
deron had an injury aswell i think
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
gallo is so thats prob. who he told
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
apparently Broussard saw him talking to Amar'e with a basketball under his arm
putting 2 and 2 together
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
by Ozraider on Feb 19, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you mean someone saw him with amare and then broussard said he saw him with amare
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Broussard was hiding in his locker and found a Patrick Ewing Rookie card
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
lol, you mean someone was hiding in his locker found a ewing rookie card and then broussard stole it from him
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaha
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
broussrd is laughing too but only because he saw you do it first
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
ROFLLLLLLLL!!!!!!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
Breaking News:
chris broussard of espn has just died.
witnesses sall him rolling on the floor laughing when he fell into his pool. he has never seen anybody swim before so he couldn’t steel their techniqe.
he is set to be burried in JFK’s grave, but he is calling it his own
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Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
well played sir
:)
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
thank you
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
not even a little, it's melo trying to get the deal with us done this weekend
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think its more Proky trying to mess with our negotiations. He knows he’s beat so he might as well try to make Dolan do something stupid.
If that’s the truth, by God he’s a genius :(
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he should shut the FUCK up and let donnie get shit done. den should get nothing but curry and a pick
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I do for this one simple reason
KBerg_CBS
Arrangement was described as “quid pro quo.” To meet with Knicks, Anthony had to agree to meet with Nets, as well, source says.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
yea
Denver has to allow him to meet with a team. They like Denver’s offer better, so makes sense.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Thats why I don't think its Melo.
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by Gelatin on Feb 19, 2011 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
is it his twin brother who looks and sounds like him
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
melo should shut up and say nothing
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
worse than trouble, it's toxic and needs to be contained
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but he probably can't take a shit without someone sticking a microphone and the door of the stall
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
"no comment" it is simple
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
true
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
i wish melo thought so
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Melo can't shut up.
He doesn’t want to bury the Nuggets the way LeBron did the Cavs, he wants to at least keep things good with them, so by acting like he might go to NJ, it gives Denver the only bit of leverage they have, and that’s a positive for Denver’s FO.
denver doesn't give a shit about him anymore, they booed him in his own home
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think they do anymore but thats my opinion
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
But at the same time
He is making the team he is going to worse
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
not if he makes us give up gallo ray ray and the best part for them eddy curry
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
He should think more than a week ahead
Cause he’ll be playing for the Knicks for years and he wants to have the best team around him
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
This Knicks team isn't going anywhere this year
And the Knicks have an entire offseason to add pieces around Amar’e, Melo, and Billups. All of which will be signed to 1 year deals at most.
Lol fail
Absolute fail, like epic fail.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
why shouldn't you
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
i as a fan expect one every year
not so much as an analys tho
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
who are you to say we can't make a run, who are you to say amare can't win the mvp, who are you to say melo isn't good enough
you obviously look at the garden half empty
while most of us see the arena half full
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, the Garden's usually more than half full
And championships take defense, dear, I’m sorry to bring you to reality.
Which is why you hold onto Felton
And add a tough good Center instead of giving up everything to get CP3 or d-will
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
One has nothing to do with the other.
Defensive Centers can be found and don’t cost superstar money.
Yes they do
Cause if pay for CP3 or D-will, we wont have the money to afford a decent center. But if we keep Felton, we can
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Javale McGee is 2nd in Blocks
Making $1.4 million this year
Kris Humphries is top 10 in rebounding, makes $3.2 million (2nd in Defensive rebounding pct)
They don’t have to be superstars, just need to be serviceable.
Both of those players are terrible defenders!
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 1:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
those players are terrible!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
McGee is cheap 'cause he's on his rookie contract
Humphries is cheap ‘cause he sucks (and he’s a PF anyway)
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
look we can play D, but we can't give up fields or gallo
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
i have now ended this conversation
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
I just dislike Billups
In the Penguin i trust
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
lol, agree
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Melo should:
Inform the Nuggets that he has all the leverage and if they don trade him to the Knicks, he’s pulling a Lebron. BOOM!
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
how do you know what he wants, are you lala
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Because if he didn't give a shit about his image
He would’ve flatly stated that already.
You don’t make strategic statements all year long and then throw it all away now.
he's not gonna be an ahole like that, noone does that. stop acting like you know what he is thinking
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
....
The original statement was that he should demand a trade to the Knicks only or he’s going to walk and screw you guys. Its right up there. I said that he wouldn’t do that because he doesn’t want to be hated. You asked how do I know out of nowhere.
he did demand a trade. you don't go out in public like that if your a superstar, it is bad for your image
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
true
plus he wouldn’t do that because he wants the contract so he won’t lose millions. If he knew he get a good contract in the summer, he would just wait and sign with us then but there are fears he will lose way too much because of the new CBA
lebron said nothing leading up to his free agency...
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
He'd said plenty of things
Just didn’t push for a trade like Melo did. He definitely put the idea out there that he was interested in testing free agency.
KD is the only guy, thus far, to not say anything, other than thank you for my extension OKC.
no
he pretty much refused to talk about it
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
yup, he did what he should have
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
He stopped talking about it maybe 6 months before the FA period began if my memory is correct.
But he started it all (I think) the year after he’d signed that extension and then lost in the playoffs. This was twoyears before he was to become a free agent. Said he needed to see where the team was going and all that and he’d have to think about his future.
I don’t remember Melo ever saying any shit like “If you want to go to sleep, set your alarm clock for July 1. It’s gonna be a great day.”
Lebron knew he was getting his money
but Carmelo was screwed by his former agent that got him to sign the deal with Denver when his first contract expired or otherwise he would have been a free agent with all the others last year.
Not necessarily.
I think Melo’s Max extension can be for more $$ than what LeBron and Wade and Bosh could have gotten because of that extra year.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
The Worst Part
Is that all dolan cares is about is making money and creating buzz. he hasnt the slightest idea of what it takes to build a championship basketball team, and doesnt really care
that is why we must keep walsh
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 19, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, there is a positive to this
the Rangers suck every year.
GO DEVILS!!!!!!
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 19, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
you can't say that, there are millions of people who care for hockey.
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
last time i checked
the rangers had a better record, so suck it
by j_oppy on Feb 20, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
last time i checked
The Rangers still suck. So suck on that
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
the last time i checked the devils aren't gonna make the playoffs
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by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Lol
We just beat the Hurricans. 10 points out with 24 games left. I think we have a good shot
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
i disagree, you will mess it up (i hope)
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Not the way we are playing
And if Parise comes back, we win the Stanley Cup
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
that is a very bold statement, i would like a bet now
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
i was gonna ask you, you made the statement which should make you the bet maker i think
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
u asked for a bet
So ill leave it up to you
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
i thought i just left it up to you
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
im down, tho my heart is worth 2, so when you lose you will have to give me yours and another
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Lol sike
Just for that im raising the stakes to our hearts and our brains. Im going zombie style
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
well my brain is worth 100 regular brains, so you need to go on a rampage inglorios basterds style
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
I've found
betting you’re sig for a weeks works well….who ever wins writes the others sig and they have to leave it for a week
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
well he doesn't have a sig, and mine isn't pro rangers or hockey
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
can we slap you?
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
can we do it anyway
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
opps below
meant Taylor made
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
yea i didn't understand for a second
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I fail
and fail hard and often…it’s like my thing
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
lol
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
then guess
j_oppy kinda has a point?
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
+1000000000000000000000000000rec'd
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
last time i checked
this was posting & toasting, not whogivesafuckabouthockey.com
by Taylor Made on Feb 20, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
when was the last time you checked??
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
just now
i looked at my address bar. it says http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2011/2/19/2003003/a-thread-for-carmelo-anthony-trade-rumor-madness-2-19-11#storyjump
by Taylor Made on Feb 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
you shouldn't believe what the internet tells you
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Last time i checked
I could give two poops about what you checked. If i wanna talk about hockey, ill talk about hockey
by Daniel Zimnikov on Feb 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
is it, are you sure on that, i want proof
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
That Wojo guy just tweeted that the Nets hierarchy is not feeling very confident after the meeting with Melo.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
they shouldn't
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
he's gotta slit his wrists if NJ doesn't get him
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Holy shit
That dunk contest was a travesty. Fan voting gave it to Griffin when it was all for McGee to win
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
if blake made the first one he tried
it would have been the greatest dunk ive ever seen. it looked straight out of nba jam.
Ibaka's first dunk was the best dunk. He took off before the FT Line.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
yup but he got cheated
NBA and its dictators wanted Blake. He won the contest because of media help and that car dunk which wasn’t that impressive. It was just like when Howard wore the superman clothes, and that was enough to win it. NBA is full of crap when it comes to that.
latest tweet from Woj
@WojYahooNBA After Carmelo Anthony sit-down with New Jersey ownership, “The Nets didn’t come away very confident,” a source briefed on meeting tells Y!
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
saw that, don't believe anything, but like it
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Well to be fair, didn't they come out of the LeBron meetings very confident.
We know how that turned out.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
they didn't come away confident
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Here's a pretty dumb article - D'Antoni worries about pressure if he get's Anthony
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) I'll prove you lost already
finally the Rock HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!
it's yahoo i wouldn't look to far into it
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 20, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well the papers are going to be annoying, for sure
If the Knicks get Melo with Amar’e and then don’t win, the media is of course going to put it on D’Antoni.
if it's true
then he needs to step down as coach and go to college. You don’t win championships by wearing your players out and you don’t even have that many good players on top of that. This current squad would never win rings, but maybe he just wants to make playoffs and that’s it. This article could also be bull like most the crap we hear.
makes sense
I mean what we are now is not a chip contender. Btu with those 2 for some reason we’d be expected to be one.
Don’t think there’s any more to it than that.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I know this has been said before
But the only way we reasonably win a championship is with Melo coming as a free agent and taking a pay cut.
So if he takes $15 million per and gets another $5 mil in endorsements and Lala earns 1$ million because she is in NYC, that’s $63 mil over 3 years. When you take the taxes into consideration it probably comes down to less than a million dollars which is chump change to someone who has already made $150million in his career.
The Landryman Can
you'd think?
but who knows…Amare left a team that went to the WCF over the last year of his contract being guaranteed or not… Sloan signed an extension and promptly quit after 23 years the nets traded FOR! saha vujicic……craziness all around.
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Amar'e gets a pass on the greedy issue
He signed Pre-Decision when taking max money was still okay. Now in the Post-Decision Era how can a team compete without a t least a couple of very good players taking less than market value?
Also, I think winning a championship might be made more valuable and interesting by instituting some kind of prize pool for the top finishers. Imagine if every player on the winning team got a check for $5million.
The Landryman Can
Players already get playoff bonuses
Beyond that, the NBA does not need to be a reality show
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 2:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't know that
Makes sense. I think it already is going in the reality show direction.
The Landryman Can
agreed
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
I’m in no way asserting Amar’e left for greed. and I must say he is a better player post nash, then I thought he would be…I’m just say shit goes down that doesn’t make sense. shawn marion publicaly asked for a trade from a contending team on which he was the the highest paid player, a go to guy and a fan fave….why? before the Melo drama the nugs were considered a contender, melo was denver’s number one son. then he wants to be traded?
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
I actually wasn't refuting you
I just that would be a good place to put my greed comment.
The Landryman Can
amare
I think he also looked towards the future and saw that nash is going downhill. If not now, then some time in his 4 to 5 year deal he wanted.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 20, 2011 6:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe
but still to go from a western conference finalist to a team that missed the playoffs in the east seems like a bigger risk to me.
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
it was a big risk
but considering how frugal the Suns owner is and how teh Knicks when they signed Amar’e were by anyone’s account aside from the 3 Putos still in the mix for LeBalls, I think Amar’e saw the future in NYK.
I also kinda think that while many think Amar’e will break down in 2-3 years (So about Nash’s contract), he thinks he’s gonna be fine for another 5 or 6 at least.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I hope so
dude is a beast and has developed even more in NY… maybe I’m just butt hurt that the nash amare PnR is gone for ever, I feel like somewhere a cute little basket ball angel; just dropped dead.
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
shit, he proly make more than 5 mill in endorsements
if i’m not mistaken, he’d be our first jordan brand athlete.
but he cant wait for some reason. maybe he’s thinkn, 65 mil extension, PLUS his endorsements. dude might rack up 75 to a hundred mil in three years if he extends now. thats crazy money.
by bobitostretch on Feb 20, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
oh wait
jus looked up jordan brands team, jeffries and richardson on it. but they dont got any signature collection type of shoes tho like melo.
by bobitostretch on Feb 20, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
I can understand why he can't wait
His kids are growing up fast and his wife comes from a tight New York Puerto Rican family. The pressure from that direction must be enormous on him. I bet that they have all checked out of Denver in their minds and want to just get this damn deal done already.
The Landryman Can
It;s not that he CAN'T wait.... it's why SHOULD he?
I mean, there is no way around it guys, Melo would be leaving $30+ mill on the table here. Doesn’t matter how much he has already made. That is a ton of money.
At this level EVERYONE is greedy. Amar’e is greedy too… don;t kid yourselves. Doesn’t make him selfish or a bad person in any way, but he came here for the money and the fame. He loves it here and we love having him here. The same would go for Melo. He wants to get paid. Someone is gonna pony up too.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
only prob with that is Melo doesn;t have to choose between extension and endorsements.
He’s gonna get the endorsements anyways.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
So I take it
1) Proky’s being an ass just to be an ass
2) NY media is spinning stuff about Dolan
3) Both tactics are inexplicably still working
also hail McGee, the fans don’t get him anyways, he is too far over their heads, literally
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 1:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Who the hell do the Nuggets think Carmelo Anthony is?
Michael Jordan?
The more I think about this deal
the more I think the Knicks HAVE to find a way to keep Felton. They are not going to have the money to sign D-Will or Paul, and Chauncey at this point is a known quantity and he’s in his mid 30s. We need to HOPE that Felton can turn into an NBA All-star, and I think he can as long as he limits his shots and focuses more on passing and getting to the rim more than the long jump shots
If we have Chauncey's $15 million on board
we actually do have that off the books by 2012 at the latest.
Not sure what CP3 or Williams expect, but I don’t think that sort of money isn’t enough.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I worry more than we could technically afford that
But we still would have holes in our roster and it would essentially be scraping the bottom of the barrel
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
According to NY Post
NYPost_Nets
Nets meet with ’Melo but Knicks in driver’s seat…Anthony was ‘noncommittal’ after face-to-face with Nets
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I read that too
I still don’t know what to think and the Nets deal just seems unrealistic and pointless for Carmelo too. Tim Legler of ESPN said it too that the Nets deal don’t make any sense for anyone involved and it be only about selling tickets. The original deal they had was Billups and Hamilton joining Melo in NJ but that wouldn’t bring no championship in the next 5 years. Melo to the Knicks makes perfect sense because he has Stat and a better chance to win. It’s NYC man and not NJ Nets which will be like Clippers in LA.
guess whos back
ISIAH THE DEVIL
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=Ak1oqh5ILJdgL7gm2B2O9ju8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011ylt=Ak1oqh5ILJdgL7gm2B2O9ju8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011" >
The sad life of a Met fan
Back? The fucking bedbug never left!
I can’t see Donnie putting up with any more of this shit. There’s a beach somewhere filled with hookers and scotch with his name on it.
This is definitely NOT the news report I wanted tio wake up to.
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 20, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
back to the dark ages
i don’t know why dolan has a hard-on for isiah. why can’t isiah just accept the fact that he’s not wanted in NY anymore.
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Feb 20, 2011 7:34 AM EST up reply actions
because he IS wanted back....
by the one motherfucker who can make it happen. This just sucks. And the little bedbug prolly thinks all will be forgiven when he takes credit for and tells “the real story” about getting Melo.
It’s enough to make me want to see Melo in Brooklyn….or ANYWHERE but here. yeesh!
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 20, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
That article is f-ing terrifying.
Nothing new, though.
That article is pure bullshit. That Woj guy is a New Jersey Nets fan who’s angry that the Nets are not getting Melo. For months he’s been guaranteeing Melo to the Nets, and now he knows he’s wrong. His one source is obviously a pissed off New Jersey executive whose pissed off that the Knicks increased their offer and has taken the lead in this thing. Does Dolan like Isiah? Yes. Does Dolan get advice from Isiah? Yes. The rest is nonsense. Walsh has been on these conference calls while Isiah is coaching his basketball team. Last time he wrote this nonsense, Alan Hahn refuted it. If someone like Hahn wrote this I would be worried, but this Yahoo from Yahoo? This guy is also being sued because he took a big advance from a book company to write a book about Jim Valvano, failed to deliver, and kept the money.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Feb 20, 2011 8:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
one small correction....
Bedbug is obviously NOT coaching his college team. Look at their record! FIU should fire him.
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 20, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Ah should've read this first <3
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't know that about the Valvano book
but Woj is definitely a known slimeball with no limits to how low he’ll go.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the info on Valvano
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
I think you inadvertently hit the nail on the head.
They are lovers.
I’m new here, btw. Nice to see a place that is not full of irrational Gallinari-bashing.
by Captain_Wonderr on Feb 20, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome. We love Gallo!
Except Dziedzic. I’d recommend not getting too worked up about his views on Gallo.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
we have a few that don't like Gallo
but they still think he’s just a shooter. And lets be honest, who cares about those that don’t watch the games and try and make an opinion of a plyer?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
That's total conjecture! And probably a Proky plant
If it was true, that source would’ve gone to Isola.
Proky knows he’s not converting any Knicks fans by losing out on Melo, so he has to try this.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Feb 20, 2011 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it was just a matter of time before someone dropped that
of course its Wojo. I mean I can see IT coming back too unfortunately, but I don’t need Wojo telling me that.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This reads too much like the rants of a guy with an agenda
Which isn’t to say it’s not true, but I’ll wait for the inevitable report with quotes from Dolan/Isiah corroborating it before I enter rage mode
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Bedbug's obviously putting max effor into his current job:
its one thing to start it with a positive jam and it's another thing to see it on through....The Hold Steady
by sadderbudweiser on Feb 20, 2011 8:00 AM EST reply actions
great tweet by someone on the melo situation:
“remember, the bulls couldve gotten kg, kobe, pau. but they never wanted to give up deng?”
not exactly all that true
but I guess some food for thought. Tho as you digest it you realize that its largely nothing and the Bulls weren’t exactly a model franchise during those times.
I mean they stole everything Isiah Thomas had but other than that they were pretty imcompetant.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I would probably trade any of our guys straight up for Melo
it’s the inclusion of multiple guys that’s the problem.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
update from the knicks blog
http://www.theknicksblog.com/2011/02/20/melo-update-3/
we can only hope that DW gets the proverbial hat trick and come away the winner.
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Feb 20, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions
we'll only know when the deal is completed
if its Felton, Gallo, Chandler and the other 2 things, that’s not Donnie, that’s Dolan. I can actually see the Felton aspect of this being ‘right’ by Donnie given Chauncey’s veteranness and contract that matches up better with max deals.
But the Gallo part is not. Gallo at worst is a trade chip for CP3 or Williams if he’s not a part of our future to pair with those guys.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
dont listen to that guys
that article makes no sense
I really think
the Knicks have to put an offer on the table and say take it or leave it. Something like Chandler and Fields/Mozgov, pick and Curry. Melo blowing our leverage is BS and shows me he cares way more about his money than the teammates he will join in NY. Lets put the pressure on Melo and make him really think about playing in NJ. If he really doesn’t want to go there, Nuggets will be forced to take our deal or Melo will become a FA or re-sign w Denver
another rumor from hoopshype
Walsh’s patient strategy applied not only to keeping and adding necessary role players to complement the two superstars, but also to adding a third star who could push the Knicks into the Eastern Conference elite with an aging Boston team, Miami, and Chicago. A person with knowledge of the conversations told CBSSports.com on Saturday that Jazz point guard Deron Williams began informing close associates after last season that if Stoudemire wound up in New York, Williams would follow him there as a free agent in 2012. If the Knicks got Anthony with the three-year extension under current rules, it is not clear whether they’d have enough cap space to add a player such as Williams, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard when the trio become unrestricted free agents after next season. </bloc
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Feb 20, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions
This is why I can see Donnie wanting to add Chauncey Billups' contract
Williams and Paul each make the same contract, about $16.4 next season (and both have a player option for 2013 so identical to the Carmelo situation)
Billups makes ~$14 mill next season at its a team option, so he’s basically be the Eddy Curry of next year (hopefully as useful as Curry is useless of course) .
What’d be really interesting is if we don’t get Melo, will Williams still follow Mare here?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree, but the caveat is
that assumes that extend and trades will still be allowed under the new CBA
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
If the Knicks were to trade for CP3,
I think that New Orleans would want to unload Okafur’s contract. Billups’ contract makes it easier to make a trade work. Here’s what I’m thinking about, if you combine a Melo trade with a CP3 trade (which probably would happen roughly a year apart:)
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4tw6l8x
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
if isiah thomas state thats he helped orchastrate this trade i will become a nets semi-fan. if dolan hires thomas to be president of basketball operations again then i will become a nets fan. eating raw pork is better than seeing isiah run this franchise into the ground again.
In Donnie We Trust!
these are from Alan Hahn's twitter feed:
Knicks release statement from Dolan, Walsh, D’Antoni to “make it abundantly clear” the three have been “in constant communication” …. …throughout process and are “in complete agreement with everything we are currently working on.”
Knicks statement adds, “We want to make it clear that no one from outside our organization has been involved in this process in any way.”
Will someone call a hit on Woj already?
Calling Isiah a “top executive”? This fuck needs to just stop. Just bend over and realize the Nets will continue to be a joke.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Marchand too
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6140491
The fuck people? Saying “no comment” and wishing us to do well doesn’t mean that he’s setting up a “puppet regime” inside teh Knicks org. and Dolan is going over Donnie’s head.
This Wojo character needs to get a psych eval and get on some meds. Dude’s on some paranoid shit.
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Hahn
Just tweeted: “Source tells Newsday Knicks are ‘not going any further’ with offers to Denver. ’It’s out of our hands now.’ Up to Denver.”
I hope that means they're backing off the offer.
Tho it probably means they’re set on it.
I also heard that no “official” anything will get mentioned until after the ASG out of “respect” to Stern. Which probably means something will get leaked during the game.
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Can you imagine if denver ended up with nothing?
They’ve been immature and childish throughout this whole thing. No wonder the nets threw their hands up and said no thank you a month ago. They sound impossible to deal with.
From Hahn:
The source said there also is the potential that the Nuggets and Nets could work out a smaller deal that would not require an extension. It then would be up to Prokhorov and the Nets to try to convince Anthony to sign an extension before he opts out and becomes a free agent.
Please do. The Nets can give Denver two first rounders to rent Melo, whereupon he will refuse to sign an extension with him, and then we can sign him in the offseason.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Oh please do that!
Please!
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Do we even know the current Knicks offer?
It can’t possibly still be the same as yesterday’s now that Melo announced he won’t sign an extension with NJ.
Fields, on the follow!
yea, we don't.
tho we also don’t know the “smaller deal” that nJ would offer.
I’d think its something like Favors and 2 picks.
The Nuggets A) don’t want to give Melo what he wants and B) want the most flexibility out of their return. Favors is still raw and the 2 picks is something we can’t really match.
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Favors is garabge. He has Stromile Swift 2.0 written all over him. JMO.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I think the idea is that someday he'll learn how to play basketball
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Neat
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
It's funny, the Nets could have made themselves into an interesting team
by drafting DeMarcus Cousins and trading Brook Lopez during the summer before he embarked on his monster 5 rebound season. Considering he’s on his rookie deal I bet they could have got a nice piece for him… Monta Ellis, perhaps? Josh Smith?
Devin Harris/Monta Ellis or Josh Smith/DeMarcus cousins would be a core with a lot of combustible personalities but a future of possibly not sucking.
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Instead they are stuck with
Brook “my pussy hurts” Lopez and and the newest addition to Mt. Bustmore
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
That would've been hilarious watching David Lee and Brook Lopez play 0 defense in Golden State
Damnit Billy King and the Warriors FO owe it to us to make that deal happen.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
sounds like Anthony Randolph
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BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
The sad thing is, Randolph had a much better rookie season as a 19 year old than Favors.
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I lived in SF during AR's rookie season and I was enamored with his ability.
I remember last year when we had a fanpost thread about plan B’s to HWSNBN that I mentioned AR as a potential acquisition along with Felton. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect that would that become a reality.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Got any stock tips?
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by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Here's my theory
When ever there’s a disaster like Hurricane Katrina; Invest in Home Depot, Lowes, Costco and Walmart.
Here’s another one. After a company has a disaster like BP, buy their stock. After a few months it will rebound.
However, my advice is to invest in a mutual fund that way you don’t feel a dent in the bank account when one of your stocks screws up. There’s less risk involved, and you make a conservative return.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Or just buy good companies
like apple and netflix on dips
I wonder if it would be considered too poor form to lower the offer at this point though.
I hope that wouldn’t stop Donnie from doing it, but maybe it would be viewed badly by his peers. I dunno.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I'm sure Dolan will be fine keeping his pants around his ankles
but I doubt Walsh will care.
Also, I’m not so sure our offer is what the actual offer is. Maybe shit ain’t have shit to do with shit?
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http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41693015/ns/sports-player_news/
The final offer is reportedly: Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry and a draft pick for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman and Shelden Williams.
Meh! Meh meh meh meh!
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
sorry for providing a totally useless url
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41693015/ns/sports-player_news/
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
that seems to be what everyone else is saying
so while it was reported today, seems like its just a parrot.
If I wasn’t on the record before, I fucking HATE that deal.
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Nuggets are looking to save money and go in full on rebuilding mode..
I think Favors + a billion draft picks is a lot more attractive to them than this. Chandler is a RFA, Felton has one more year and a team option, and Gallo has two more years on his deal. There’s a chance that none of them will even be on the Nuggets in just a few seasons.
I can’t see this trade happening given how reluctant the Nuggets seem to be in dealing with the Knicks
Great let em get Stromile Swift 2.0
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
B/C they are idiots.
The only people dumber that Masai Ujiri are the idiots who fall for those Nigerian Email scams asking for you to send them $25K to pay bank and tax fees to transfer $5million from Nigeria to an Cayman Islands bank account in your name.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
It's been clear from the beginning that the last thing the Nuggets want to do is make a deal with the Knicks
At least it seems that way to me
I get that feeling as well.
I think that given an offer from the Knicks and a slightly inferior offer from the Nets, they’d take the latter
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I don't know, I just threw out a random deal
but it’s entirely possible that the Nuggets feel that they’ll save face by not sending Carmelo where he wants. Ujiri’s inability to pull the trigger suggests that maybe he’s trying to decide what move will make him look best, and maybe he figures that he’ll look like he has more of a backbone if he doesn’t take the Knicks’ deal. Or maybe they just really like draft picks/hate our players.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Just saw this on youtube STAT & MELO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtkSGL2SKc
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
all hail Amar'e
I feel like I’ve never disagreed with him before…and I’ve followed almost his every move for 3+ years.
yea the more I think of Billups here
the more I think he’ll be fine. Will he be better than Felton I don’t know. Tho I do think he’ll be more of a steadying presence. Felton seems like a smart dude, but Billups kind of seems like a really smart dude on the court.
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Billups is a great PG
I love almost everything about him. He perhaps isn’t as flashy a playmaker as Nash, Paul, Williams, but he can flat-out shoot and he can operate the pick and roll. He would be great great great here.
Amar'e has been on his verbal A game this weekend
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Whoa
That makes me think a deal is definitely going down.
Why would one co-captain of a team say about the other, “I’m fine with him being replaced by Chauncey Billups” if it wasn’t 99.9% going to happen?
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
But for the record, he's right
Chauncey would do fine here
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by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I kinda hate that the question the player was asked usually isn't known
Was it “how would you feel abotu playing witch Chauncey” or was it "what do you think of Chauncey Billups as a player?
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The source article's got a lot of quotes from STAT that make it sound like it's just a matter of "when" not "if"
But then again… it’s Berman.
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by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
“Chauncey’s obviously a solid player,” said Stoudemire, the first Knicks player to start in an All-Star Game since Patrick Ewing in 1992. “He’s won championships, he knows how to win. Anytime you get veteran guys together you can work anything out. It’s a matter of how it pans out. You want to have a veteran team. Anytime you win a championship you have to have playoff experience. That’s what Chauncey has. They call him ‘Big Shot’ for a reason.”
Stoudemire said he hopes the trade happens soon and denied he was against the deal.
“Obviously Carmelo is a great talent. Any team would want to have him on the ballclub,” Stoudemire said. "For us any time you get a player like Anthony it’s going to help you.
Made glorious summer by this son of [New] York.
by Anthony Randolph's Winter of Discontent on Feb 20, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
they should fall back dammit.
paying half the damn team for a guy who they can get in free agency.
"Donnie wanted to sit and wait till the 11th hour"
everyone else needs to shut the fuck up and let that happen. That is…if they aren’t doing that already.
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and you know this because?
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
actually its looking pretty "good" that we'd acquire him
what we’re giving up looks like shit.
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So if Billups helps us with the cap room
in 2012, but we all can be sure that CP3 (or Dwight Howard or Deron Williams) won’t wait for free agency and prefer a trade a la Carmelo – then what assets are we going to have and how Billups acquisition helps us?
Billups will be our Curry
but assets? damn. I guess just draft-picks.
early guess
would be Billups expiring, Fields and whoever our first round pick is this year.
Which again, makes it imperative we keep Gallinari. Cuz you know…Big 3’s don’t win a fucking god damn dick of a thing.
But Big 4’s do.
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I don't understand why we are still offering so much.
It boggles my mind. Melo only will sign the extension here. Who pays much more than Chandler, a pick, and an expiring contract for a rental player?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Because
based on the various sources, ‘Melo told Dolan – you either trade for me now or I’ll sign extension with Denver or whoever trades for me. I won’t take my chances with the free agency.
Sucks, but that’s how it looks like.
Does NJ really believe they can get him to sign the extension?
If they do, they can best our lowest offer, if they don’t, who can beat Chandler, Curry, and a pick?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
the sense I get is that Carmelo wants the extension no matter what
he wants to go to the Knicks, but won’t not go to NJ if its the last resort just to get the money.
Nuggets want a “viable” offer. Apparently Carmelo while in a backwards sort of way let it be known that he wants the Knicks only, didn’t exactly tell Denver that. Probably as by design. Maybe that’s what he and the Denver owners discussed.
At least the sense I get of it. IF not we’ll see the offer come down.
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Does Melo not really understand that he could have set himself up to be on a better Knicks team
along with an extension? Tell Denver that he won’t sign an extension anywhere else, then the only offers the Knicks have to contend with are offers for him as a rental player, which they should be able to best pretty easily without dismantling the team. The only way this goes bad for Melo is if Denver chooses a worse offer just to spite Melo, which is not how you run a good franchise.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
I wonder if Melo wanted to do that, but his agent talked him out of it
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
his agents, the owners
I think he knows he could do that but he won’t.
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Well reports are CAA will be fired by Melo if they don't get him to NY with the extension.
I’m guessing Leon Rose and World Wide Wes have been the idiots trying to get NJ into every FA/Trade discussion because of their ties to Jay Z. I guarantee if Melo doesn’t go to the Nets, this will be the last you hear of Jay Z as a minority owner. What good is he if his boy World Wide Wes can’t deliver a single big name player to NJ/Brooklyn? This will also be the last of the Nets going after big name free agents who are represented by guys like Leon Rose and World Wide Wes.
Again this all hinges on whether or not Melo gets traded.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Traded to the Knicks that is.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
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