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Just a slight change of pace for a second, guys.  Let's have it out about the All-Star game and what everyone thinks of the reserve rosters and the starters.  It's well deserved that Amar'e has been chosen to start as it has been a damn long time since the Knicks have had an All-Star starter.  David Lee was an injury replacement recently, but getting voted to be a starter (while admittedly a popularity contest) is a big achievement.  Few people (Kelly Dwyer preferred Kevin Garnett) would argue against Amar'e starting but his play has certainly supported his selection.
But the real meat here is the Reserve Rosters which are chosen by the coaches.  Double cork with me, you Flying Tomatoes.

Star-divide

Soooo.... I wanna briefly go through the Starters and Reserves from each conference and start a conversation about how accurate the team choices are and who was snubbed and what not.  NBA All-Star Teams are normal sized teams and with 30 teams in the NBA, it's always going to be controversial and cause heavy debate.  Currently, the Starters are chosen by the fans from a ballot that is created before the season begins.  Nothing wrong with that as it allows for a lot of voting time.  The main issue most people take with the ballot is how it is position specific.  You must choose 2 guards, 2 forwards, and a center.  In this NBA where positioning is becoming blurry as more and more players are able to play multiple positions, many people find it outdated that the NBA still confines players to one position on the ballot (Pau Gasol was listed at Forward... however he has played the majority of this season as Lakers C.  Same goes with Amar'e who is listed as a Forward). 

It's less of an issue with the starters than it is with the Reserve Choices though.  All-Star Coaches choose the reserves for their team.  Rather than be free to choose 7 players of their choice, they are forced to choose 2 Guards, 2 Forwards, 1 center and 2 wild cards.  Sounds fine on first look, but the All-Star game is supposed to be fun and what happens if certain positions are more heavily stocked with all-star worthy players than others?  Would it be so wrong to have a team weighted towards bigger forwards if the guard selection is weaker?  If the players chosen to fill the spots are playing great, then who cares? It would add an interesting angle to the game at the least and maybe create less chance of snubs. 

EAST Starters

G- Derrick Rose|24.6ppg, 8.2ast, 4.6reb, 1.04stl, .445fg%, .379 3pt%, .824ft%

G- Dwyane Wade|25.4ppg, 6.7reb, 4.1ast, 1.40stl, 1.04blk, .498fg%

F- LeBron James|26.6ppg, 7.3reb, 7.3ast, 1.49stl, .482fg%, .365 3pt%

F- Amar’e Stoudemire|26.1ppg, 8.7reb, 2.7ast, 1.00stl, 2.21blk, .501fg%, .783ft%, .500 3pt%!!

C- Dwight Howard|22.3ppg, 13.6reb, 1.21stl, 2.19blk, .578fg%

 

Thoughts:  Seems to me the fans got this one right.  Hard to argue that this 5 is not the 5 best players at their positions this season so far.  I can think of a few guys who have played well enough to start, like Ray Allen, Al Horford, Rajon Rondo to name a few. 

EAST Reserves

G- Rajon Rondo| 10.6 ppg, 12.5 ast, 4.5 reb, 2.46 stl, .515 fg%

F- Paul Pierce| 19.1ppg, 3.3ast, 5.0reb, 1.02stl, .512fg%

G- Ray Allen| 17.3ppg, 3.0ast, 3.6reb, .88stl, .508fg%, .458 3pt%, .857ft%

F- Kevin Garnett| 15.0ppg, 8.9reb, 2.3ast, 1.62stl, .74blk, .533fg%, .833ft%

G- Joe Johnson| 20.6ppg, 4.2reb, 5.5ast, .68stl, .450fg% , .806ft%

F- Chris Bosh| 18.4ppg, 8.1reb, 1.9ast, .73stl, .73blk, .495fg%

C- Al Horford| 16.1ppg, 9.9reb, 3.6ast, 1.11blk, .77stl, .567fg%, .813ft%

 

 

Thoughts: Oh look, how nice, 3 teams make up the whole damn thing, with FOUR Celtics chosen.  This sort of angers me and maybe it makes me a tad hypocritical after just saying how the coaches should be able to just form their own team with no restrictions.  My argument was position-wise though, not team-wise.  There aren't enough spots to have each team represented in the All-Star game, but while the Big 4 on the Celtics have been played excellent this half... do we really need all 4 of them?  Diversity, please.  Pick 2.  People would understand because there are FOURTEEN teams in the East.  And each team has at least one main attraction worthy of attention.  Even the Cavs.  Doesn't mean they have to be chosen, but 4 of the 7 total spots filled by one team?  Come on now.  So who got snubbed?  Unfortunately, not entirely too many guys, but there are a few guys who are worthy of roster spots.

In random order of snubility: 

Raymond Felton|17.1ppg, 8.9ast, 3.7reb, 1.81stl, .873ft%

Danny Granger|21.0ppg, 5.6reb, 2.8ast, 1.09stl, .379 3pt%

Wilson Chandler|16.8ppg, 6.1reb, 1.4blk, .465fg%, .352 3pt%

Andrew Bogut|13.4ppg, 11.7reb, 1.9ast, 2.79blk, .491fg%

Elton Brand|14.9ppg, 8.6reb, 1.5ast, 1.19stl, 1.11blk, .516fg%

Danilo Gallinari|16.1ppg, 4.4reb, .76stl, .370 3pt%, .884ft%

Carlos Boozer|19.8ppg, 10.2reb, 2.3ast, .544fg%

Devin Harris|15.4ppg, 7.8ast, 1.09stl

Nick Young|17.3ppg, .449fg%, .391 3pt%, .822ft%

Jrue Holiday|14.1ppg, 6.7ast, 4.0reb, 1.44stl

Antawn Jamison|17.2ppg, 6.6reb, 1.6ast

Stephen Jackson|18.8ppg, 4.8reb, 3.8ast, 1.39ast

DJ Augustin|15.0ppg, 6.3ast, 3.0reb, .379 3pt%

Andray Blatche|16.1ppg, 8.2reb, 2.0ast, 1.52stl, .86blk, .800ft%

Josh Smith|16.2ppg, 8.9reb, 3.4ast, 1.33stl, 1.82blk

 

I highlighted the couple guys I feel to be the biggest snubs.  Yeah, I put a few Knicks on the list.  Ray Felton is most deserving in my opinion.  People expected him to "breakout" this year and he has.  I don't think people expected 17ppg and 9ast though.  Chandler and Gallo have been excellent this season but I surely wouldn't expect for 2 Knicks to be chosen out of 7 spots. I get why Boozer wasn't chosen since he missed the 1st month of play, but dude is a 20-10 guy.  Certainly better than that Bosh asshole. Bogut is a legit snub too as he has been a beast for an injury riddled Bucks team and some even argue he has been a better defender than Dwight Howard.  Josh Smith deserves a spot on the all-star roster, but with Joe Johnson and Al Horford already there, I am ok with Atlanta not dominating the roster much like I don't think Boston should dominate either, nor Miami.  Two players from a single team is enough given the overall size of the rosters. 

 The rest of the list are good names, but no one REALLY stands out as a guy who should be on the team. At least not so much over who's already chosen.  I think a guy like Andray Blatche and DJ Augustin deserve heavy debate, but ultimately, maybe they are a year away from being legit additions.  I don't think it's fair to discount a guys play based on his team's performance though and a lot of these guys who not chosen predominantly for that reason.  Basketball IS a team sport, but the All-Star game is based on individuals.  We aren't assembling the USA team for a tournament run. 

Overall, the Eastern All-Stars are decent.  The starters are the most deserving and aside from the reserves being dominated by a single team and the overall team comprised of players from only 6 of the 14 teams in the East, the guys are pretty solid.  I don't see many glaring misses here save for maybe Felton and Boozer.  But even Felton can be argued against seeing how his January has played out (although...Dirk Nowitzki sucked in January too...) and Boozer did miss a good portion of the 1st half.  There isn't much controversy about the eastern picks.  Certainly not like the western Conference (which will have it's own post as well).

So let's discuss who you think was snubbed or if you would make any changes to the selection process. 

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I find it super annoying that there are 4 Celtics

It is part prejudice I guess, because I hate the Celtics. Pierce and Rondo without a doubt deserve their slots but I think Garnett and Allen are arguable.

Don’t get me wrong, I respect both players and they’ve done great things. However, Allen’s only numbers that are really that respectable are his shooting ‘s. He’s killing it from everywhere on the floor and 17ppg is good, but nothing else stands out that much. That’s where I think Felton probably deserved a nod over Allen, because his stats, except for FG are all better, and he plays a bigger role on a team that’s been a surprising success story.

Likewise, Garnett is basically what fuels the C’s, but his stats are about the same as Josh Smith. And the same argument can be made about both of them how they really anchor their team’s defense. Same thing, though. 3 guys off one team is somewhat obnoxious too. Likewise, Boozer’s been beast but it’s hard to ignore missing half the season.

There aren’t too many guys who necessarily got “snubbed”. Too be honest, I don’t think half the guys on your list deserve All-Star mentions, especially because the lower half of the East is so weak. I could see maybe giving the Sixers somebody like Brand, Iggy or Holiday, especially since they’ve been improving. I’ve always liked Bogut too, but he’s on a pretty bad team and has been up-and-down all year.

I’m happy Felton didn’t make the team for the sake of his health, but he and Smith are really the only guys I think who could replace anybody on the team. Maybe even Boozer. Let’s not get started on the West. Picking 7 guys from there is the toughest thing ever

by WSD on Feb 4, 2011 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, I mean I don't know that I would make much room for some of the guys mentioned

But i wanted to show a sense of who is doing what on other teams… good or bad.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

oh and we ARE gonna get started with the West.... heh heh heh

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The East is thin on All-Stars

I can’t argue with any of the Eastern picks except maybe Joe Johnson. Even then who would replace him? Boozer; missed to many games. Felton; dropped off,, has weaker numbers. Bogut; missed a lot of games, and is too one-dimensional, has a 49% FG%, god-awful for a center.
The coaches and the players nailed the picks in the East. Must as I dislike the Celtics, these are the best players in the East.
It would very easy to make a case against any of the possible snubs you listed and therein lies the reason why they aren’t All-Stars.

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

East only has superstars which headline the starting lineup

We don’t have that many All Stars like you said, so we have to resort to players like the Celtics starting lineup, though great, which is not great individually

Landry Fields for ROY

by raed247 on Feb 4, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah I'm fine with Joe Johnson

His contract waaay overrates him but he’s averaging 20 ppg, 4 rpg, 5 apg and shooting 45% on a 32-18 team. That’s an All-Star no question

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand the 4 Celtics nor the Chris Bosh.

I think Pierce and Rondo deserve it. Ray Allen does I guess but no more than any other.

Boozer over Garnett and Josh Smith over Ray Allen.

I’d put eddy Curry in over Chris Bosh. Realistically not sure, but I know Bosh doesn’t deserve to be an all-star.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 4, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

There are better choices than Bosh... Boozer or Bogut in my opinion.

And yeah, the Celtics guys deserve to play, but not all 4. I’d say if Felton and Boozer replaced Ray Allen and Bosh, that would be about the best the coaches/fans could do this year.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Bogut is not better than Bosh at all

And Boozer has missed almost half the season. Allen is having a career year and Felton has dropped off the past two months. Celtics are getting four All-Stars because those are four of the best players in the East.
Put away the bias goggles, they’re getting all fogged up.

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like a closet Celtics fan....

Bogut makes it if Duncan makes it. The team isn’t doing as good, but the effect is the same.Bosh is nothing but a jump shooter, dude is just a third wheel. Bogut deserves it over him, no doubt.

Allen is having a career year if his career started in Boston. Garnett missed a bunch of time too, why is he deserving if Boozer is not?

Felton’s still averaging 17 and 9. Regardless of semantics, those are all star numbers.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 4, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Bogut doesn't win like Duncan

Yes, their stats are comparable, but Duncan has a much larger effect on the game and it is shown in his teams wins. Yes, you can say the Spurs have more talent, but they don’t have the same talent as teams like the Heat, Celtics and Lakers. They win with chemistry and leadership and Duncan is at the center of that.

A 3rd wheel that scores 18pts and grabs 8 reb is pretty good. Having talent on your team shouldn’t take away from your stats

Garnett has played 9 more games and is a better all around player than Boozer. I’ll also add that he actually plays defense

Felton averages 17 and 9 on 42% shooting. He was playing really well and deserved it about a month ago, but not anymore.

by fumblesnout on Feb 4, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

By your logic, why isn't Shaquille O'Neal on the team?

And the All-Star game is about putting the best players around the league on one floor. It’s not about winning a championship. Your team’s winning record should mean nothing in this game. They play one game and it holds no effect on the season.

Garnett is certainly good and playing better than people thought. But again, spread the wealth. Shit, Andre Blatche is putting up near identical stats to Garnett aside from fg%. Josh Smith has been better all-around too. Elton Brand is comparable as well.

Its the All-Star Game, not a Celtics (or any individual team) game.

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Josh Smith deserves it over Garnett. I said it earlier, but their numbers are extremely similar, with Smith’s actually a little better. Likewise, his defensive presence is equal to his team’s as Garnett’s is to the Celts.

I don’t think Bogut deserves to make it. He’s missed alot of time and his stats don’t particularly wow me. Fumblesnout has a point that while his numbers are very similar to Tim Duncan’s, he doesn’t have even a close impact. If the Bucks were around .500 I’d reconsider

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Duncan has better players around him, end of story.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 4, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also the fact that Felton has tailed off and is averaging 17 and 9 now,

is a testament to how good he was playing

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 4, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

People overrate Felton's slump

He had some stinker games in January, yeah. He also had a triple double and like 4 or 5 other double-doubles against some good teams. Really the only thing that was bad about his game was his FG%. Everything else was fine.

I’m glad he’s not playing cause he needs the rest, but he should be in over Allen. In terms of numbers, larger role and diversity, he’s more deserving

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Duncan made it for an entirely different reason

He made the team cause the coaches couldn’t let the Spurs, who have the best record in the NBA, have only one All-Star.
Bogut is not an All-Star. The Celtics case is different. Yes they are a top team, and that contributed to them having four players, but also the East is so weak compared to the West that 4/5 of Boston’s starters got in.
 
Look at Allen’s shooting %s, best of his career. Garnett missed way less time than Boozer, and means much more to his team.
Felton has All-Star numbers, but isn’t shooting like an All-Star. Monta Ellis didn’t make the team either you know.

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Bogut is most definitely an all star center

East is weak is just an excuse to get more Celtics on there.

Its February. Allen has a career high in %, but it could’ve been there before. You don’t have a career year at the halfway point going by a few % points.

Garnet can miss whatever time he wants. Boozer’s playing better. Boston’s only 3 games ahead of Boston, how much does either mean to their team? I doubt there’s a difference.

Felton has all star numbers. I don’t give a shit about Monta Ellis.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 4, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No, Bogut is not an All-Star

13 ppg is not All-Star numbers, especially coupled with a terrible 49% FG%.

Up 5% in FG% and 6% from three above career averages is a big deal. His %s this year are the best he has ever had. That coupled with the Boston’s record got into the All-Star game. You can argue against that, but first find someone who has legitimately played better.

Boozer has missed 18 games this year, which factored majorly into the coaches’ decisions. Also consider this, when Boozer was injured the Bulls kept on playing and winning without a hitch. Garnett goes down and Boston is an entirely different team. He is the backbone of that team and pretty much irreplaceable for that roster.

Totally missed my point about Ellis. Ellis is putting up All-Star numbers, 25 ppg, but shoots poorly and often. He isn’t an All-Star. Felton may have All-star averages he is shooting like a D-League rookie, that factors into the whole numbers debate.

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed about Bogut

Though Stat who plays majority of center for us is shooting around 49% too…

Allen’s shooting %‘s are incredible, but you also have to factor in the number of shots he takes. Pierce obviously takes the majority of shots out of the Big 3, and Allen has many games where he has +10 attempts, but he also has alot of games where he shoots 8-9 fgs and like 3-5 3fgs. Those shooting %’s are both correlated. I’m not overlooking them, just you have to consider that.

And if we’re gonna go off stats, Felton averages more points, more rebounds, more assists, more steals and even more blocks! He plays a much larger role and for a team that has basically surprised everyone.

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrong about Ellis

He shoots often, sure, but he shoots at a 46% clip and 36% from 3. Both of those are pretty high for Guards.

Also, his Player Efficiency rating is 9th best for Guards and 26th best in the entire league. His 20.6 tops guys like Ray Allen, Tim Duncan, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Elton Brand, Ray Felton, Kevin Martin, Andre Iguodala and David West, amongst many others.

He isn’t an All-Star but he should be. Your team record shouldn’t matter for the All-Star game. It’s about putting the best players on the floor.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 5, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Ellis has been great, and Wil's tooth threw their whole season off

they started out looking like a playoff team, then their lack of depth reared its ugly head and they had a bad losing streak. but yeah, Ellis’ past reputation as a chucker shouldn’t be haunting him now. He’s playing almost as well as he did in 2007-08, a season in which he should have been a MVP candidate

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by The Rooster on Feb 5, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Garnett is putting up 15pts a game

if Bogut isn’t an all star, either is Garnett. The Celtics also won plenty of games without Garnett.

Chicago and Boston were in the same situation without their PFs. Boozer comes back and puts up better numbers and the Bulls take off as well. They’re an entirely different team.

If Garnett’s off then Allen might could make the team, but not 4 Celtics. Either Boozer for Garnett, or Felton for Allen.

I didn’t miss the point about Ellis. I just don’t give a shit about him.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 5, 2011 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

But Bogut and KG aren't really comparable

They play way different positions and roles on the team. Bogut’s a good player and his defense is amazing, but he’s the anchor in the paint for a team pretty far below .500

KG is a defensive presence in terms of spirit and energy and smarts. He’s also far more efficient offensively. I think if you’re gonna make an argument about who should’ve been in over KG, it’s Josh Smith

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Certainly a fair point for Josh Smith

He’s been snubbed the last 2 years now.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 5, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

First of all. Boozer hasn't missed half the season.

THIS is the halfway point of the season. He missed a month. He’s played in 30 games this season. And he has put up better numbers ACROSS THE BOARD than Bosh.

Felton may have dropped off in the past 2 months, but so has Dirk Nowitski. No one is saying shit about his drop off from scoring 26ppg in December down to 19 in January with lower shooting %s all the way.

I never said Bosh was a shitty pick. I hate the guy, but he has been fine. But it’s quite obvious that he was picked partially due to everyone wanting to see Miami’s Big 3. If Bosh was the only guy left out, it would be a thing. And yeah, no one is saying the Celtics guys are playing shitty. They do all deserve it, but we have 14 fucking teams in the East. Out of 7 spots you put 4 guys from the same team? Shit, if the Knicks had 4 guys chosen for All-Stars, I would absolutely hold the same argument even though i would love it. But no team should have 3 or 4 guys on an All-Star roster of 12 players. Not when there are 14 teams with 15 players on each. Starting is one thing since it’s chosen by fans but reserves are different.

You can call me bias if you want, but that carries no weight. It just sounds like you are looking for a word to use to discredit the thread.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

After that loss to Philly

I don’t have the willpower to write out a whole agrument.
Bullet points
-Boozer has played 15 less games than Bosh
-Bosh is better overall player
-Bosh is more important to the Heat than Boozer is to the Bulls
-Felton to Dirk, terrible comparison. Dirk still having a great season, #s and % wise, MVP candidate etc. Felton shooting terribly from the field and from 3, 33% from 3, 41% from the field for the season. Even with Dirk’s small dropoff, he was still an All-Star
-14 teams in the East, doesn’t mean each team gets an All-Star, plus half those teams suck
-ignore fact 4 of 7 reserves are from the same team, focus on the fact they are 4 of the best players in the East

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Boozer vs. Bosh

Bosh’s beginning of the season where the Heat struggled, was terrible. He wasn’t All-Star caliber then. That was about 17 games I believe, and he missed 5 or 6, I think. So of the 50 games Miami has played, he’s played like an All-Star for about 27 of them. Boozer has played 30 games.

Boozer scores more, rebounds better, averages more assists, shoots a better %. You can make the argument about difference in the size of their role, but it wouldn’t matter because Miami is only 1 game ahead of Chicago. Meaning, the numbers Bosh still puts up as a 3rd wheel on a really good team because Boozer puts up better numbers as a second wheel on an equally as good team, basically.

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You make it sound like Ray Felton sucks.

And he is having his best season as well. I wasn’t comparing Ray to Dirk either. I was noting that people hold Ray Felton accountable for his slump in January, but he isn’t the only guy slumping. That’s a perfectly valid point. And AFTER Ray’s slump he is still 18ppg and 9ast. How many PGs average a double-double or are very close to it? Nash, Rondo, Williams, Paul, Rose. That’s pretty good company!

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 5, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

People seem to forget

Felton had a triple double in January. He also still scored in double figures all but 3 games, and had 6 assists or more in all but 3 games, 2 of which were wins anyway. Only bad thing about Felton in January was his shooting %

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It's like reading a Bill Simmons column.

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by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 4, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No no, not you.

The All-Star selections.

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by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 4, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, my mistake.

I was defending the Celtics, so I thought it was aimed my way.

by Mikel L on Feb 4, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd get angry, but then I remember I'm not watching the ASG and I shouldn't care

On a brighter note, this dunk contest might be the best since 2000. Griffin and McGee???!!!

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by The Rooster on Feb 4, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly though, all four Celtics deserve it.

I hate to admit it, but they’ve been outstanding. I have a larger problem with Joe Johnson’s selection, as well as Bosh’s. It’s not like the “snubbed player” pool is strong, though.

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by The Rooster on Feb 4, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No they are, but would the team be that much worse if you chose a guy from a team that isn't represented?

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 4, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not the point?

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by The Rooster on Feb 4, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get why Johnson is undeserving?

Because the management of his team offered him a ridiculous contract for his talent level? I’m not a big fan of the guy, but people take it out on him. Who wouldn’t take that money? His team is 32-18 and he’s averaging (rounded) 21 ppg, 4 rpg, 6 apg, 1 spg on 45 FG%. How is that not an All-Star?

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Johnson, but he's nowhere near as important to his team as the bigs are

and he started horribly, then got injured. He’s played a half season of good ball, and hasn’t elevated his game above the norm, meaning the Hawks haven’t played above the norm. He’s a good player, but he hasn’t been as overtly impactful as Felton.

granted, Johnson wasn’t out for as long as Boozer, but I’m not that sympathetic to either of them.

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Feb 5, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure in the time Johnson missed

The Hawks went about .500/ Before that, after their strong start, when they came back down to Earth and Johnson played poorly, their record wasn’t good either.

You can’t even say he’s not important to their Hawks. I mean Smith and Horfor play huge roles too but to say that team is fine without JJ isn’t true. He’s more deserving than Allen. I’m fine with Johnson being picked

by WSD on Feb 5, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

i could see maybe josh smith or granger ahead of young jesus shuttlesworth or rupal with deadlocks, but that’s about it.

by raj m on Feb 4, 2011 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

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