Shelden Williams will start again tonight.

by Seth on Mar 30, 2011 11:24 AM EDT in News

Mike D'Antoni said after the last game that, in Ronny Turiaf's absence, he'd continue to start Shawne Williams to spread the floor for the first unit and save Shelden Williams from early foul trouble. Now that Extra E has also been scratched, She-Will start by default [high fives self]. Here, Steve Adamek twat it in case you don't believe me:

D'Antoni: Shawne Williams "doubtful" tonight, Turiaf out, so Shelden Williams to start at center unless Shawne Williams is 100%

So, cool. She-will have his work cut out for him (BAM! Again!) against the tall and schvitzy Brooke Lopez and/or the board-happy Kris Humphries, but his performance against Dwight Howard the other night suggests that he's up for the task. It'll be interesting to see what happens if and when Shelden and Amar'e Stoudemire get into foul trouble against New Jersey's front line. Jared Jeffries will probably be the first man off the bench, but after that, it's pretty bare. Might we see Derrick Brown? Might Renaldo Balkman be activated? Might D'Antoni finally engage his secret weapon (Anthony Carter's telescoping legs)?

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Carter's bringing out his platforms

from when he used to go to the discos in the 1970’s

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions

Seriously though

I think we’ve got to see some D’Brown tonight. Or, if Extra E is inactivated, maybe a few minutes of humptisch.

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

for real

he seems really athletic. hopin to see more.

by bobitostretch on Mar 30, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, this is a good opportunity to both let guys get rest before the playoffs, as well as poke around and see what we have at the end of the bench.

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Good

Sheldon needs and deserves more PT…..man Turiaf is a good energy player, but ALWAYS injured….

by Jason Bee on Mar 30, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah

Turiaf really seems to anchor their D and give intangibles but it’s demoralizing how he gets hurt with regularity. She-will is a better rebounder though and I think that is very important.

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

I think, she-will could be a great defensive/boarding pf for amare going forward(maybe center if Turiaf still has injury probs and we don't want him back)

As we know, he is a good rebounder and looked like a good defender last night. We could really use a guy like that at the 4(maybe 5, probably not thought bc he is undersized for the 5 in all honesty). Him and Turiaf(if he stays healthy) would be a nice defensive duo at the 4 and 5 off the bench next year.

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by OzzyFan on Mar 30, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

"to backup amare"

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by OzzyFan on Mar 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

He's a little short for a 5

but he’s plenty bulky at 250 plus pounds. Guy’s a wide body. That’s at least as important as height. Played good D against Howard. By the way, I saw a picture of Howard standing right next to STAT. They’re both listed at 6’11" but STAT is definitely taller than Howard. Howard’s barely 6’10"

Ben Wallace was a defensive beast at 6’9" A couple of inches don’t make that much of a difference. She-will may be better as a 5 than as a 4, where is lack of speed and range hurt him more.

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Seriously? damn

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Ben Wallace, 6'9"?

Maybe if you count the fro.

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Mar 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I think he's 6'7

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 30, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Precisely my point.

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I know, just saying

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Mar 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope its not permanent

Pringles was right in that when Amar’e needs to come out of the game, Sheldon is the best backup we have.

Now when Amar’e comes out its Jeffries.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Mar 30, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions

That's the most depressing thing I've heard all day

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Derrick Brown

So humble, he says he’s 6’8" when he’s almost 6’10"!

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

nothing seems permanent at the 5

might not ever be by the looks of things.

by bobitostretch on Mar 30, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

we need to go to small line up

go to the post to melo as pf
we have good back court to fill upto sf position so we can move melo to 4 and she-will and JJ should be only 5

by Teutoknicks on Mar 30, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Glad She-Will is getting the nod, but...

Lopez could be just what the doctor ordered to get Amare back on track. Even with heavy legs Amare can blow by Lopez at will, and if Lopez sags off Amare can get good looks to get that sweet jumper workin again.

by Crackback on Mar 30, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Also, Humphries is the exact kinda guy that gives Amare fits.

by Crackback on Mar 30, 2011 11:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

"Amare can blow by Lopez at will"

Vice versa as well, though!

Posting and Toasting: DWTDD.

by Seth on Mar 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Sad but true.

by Crackback on Mar 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Thankfully Amare is like a million times better than Lopez.

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

He's also getting paid a million times more.

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

He's not on his rookie contract, smartass

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Mar 30, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Point stands.

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Not really

You’ll inevitably overpay Lopez once it’s time to extend him, unless you find a way to trade him. But he’ll probably stay in NJ and become Kaman with an even worse contract.

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Mar 30, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually it doesn't

I mean, it’s true that Amare is being paid more, but of course much better and more established players are paid more.

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Obviously.

Is Brook Lopez a great player? No.
Is Brook Lopez worth his $3 million dollar annual salary? Yes.
Is Amare worth $18 million a year? No.

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

This whole comparison is just dumb

Former Rookie of the Year Amar’e was certainly worth his peanuts when he was getting paid them.

But just like all other 8-year veterans of the NBA he’s on a much larger contract now. I think he’s definitely worth $18 million. He put the team on his back (Greg Jennings!) for much of this year and carried them to a great streak in December. Look at players like Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis for examples of players not earning their money, not players who were MVP candidates for part of the year.

And don’t worry, you (or some other unfortunate team) will be overpaying for Brook plenty once his contract is up

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Amare is worth it, and Lopez won't be worth his next contract

"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas

by The Rooster on Mar 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

It's true

BrookE Lopez is only making $100 over the next 5 years :)

Welcome to P&T Clayton!

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope not. That contract would be worse than Travis Outlaw's.

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions

No you misunderstand

You said Amare is paid a million times more than Lopez, and Amare is paid $100million, so then… oh, nevermind. You’re right, you make an excellent point regarding the economics of the NBA.

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

You saying Amare is a million times better than Lopez makes a lot of sense too....

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Never expected this from a guy named Clayton Balch...

Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code

by Kupe on Mar 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I come in peace Knicks fans.

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

$20 a year is a bad contract?

Hell, I’ll pay Lopez $25 out of my own pocket to come play for my rec league team.

I root for the Knicks, Mets and Giants, as well as the Seahawks and Mariners. Am I anti-winning?!?

by Taylor Made on Mar 30, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Anthony Carter's telescoping legs

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Mar 30, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions

stiff ass trench coat lol

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Mar 30, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

lol'

i like to see cartah gets some burn tonight.

by Teutoknicks on Mar 30, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

very nice article about melo and knicks, alot of room to grow for melo

Link: http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011/03/29/knicks-get-a-win-but-problems-still-exist/

by BubbaChuck on Mar 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions

tonight is gonna be real hard test for our pnr defense if deron plays

by BubbaChuck on Mar 30, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions

Thank you for striking the "e" in "Brooke."

He doesn’t deserve to be in the same phonetic bracket as Extra E.

The Knicks are back.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Mar 30, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions

What’s with those dudes having chicks’ names? Brook and Robin, really? Their pops couldn’t put his foot down and demand that one of his boys have a sex appropriate name?

by Crackback on Mar 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Pops was angling for "Batman and Robin"

This was actually the compromise

by flossy on Mar 30, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

They're actually gender-neutral

You know, like Robin, from Batman, or Robin Williams.

And then Brook, from, uh… the little stream in your cousin’s backyard?

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Schvitzy?

Is this a reference to Brook’s refusal to shower?

by GAx on Mar 30, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions

shelden williams couldn't play 3rd string on a contender

and he’s starting for the knicks

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 30, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions

...he started for the Nuggets...

Posting and Toasting: DWTDD.

by Seth on Mar 30, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

How come when we play the Jazz, or the Celtics, or really any other team in the NBA, their fans don’t come trolling here, but Nets fans just can’t help themselves?

by superturboultra on Mar 30, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

little brother syndrome

go check out ~~knicks~~netsdaily. we’re all they can talk about.

I root for the Knicks, Mets and Giants, as well as the Seahawks and Mariners. Am I anti-winning?!?

by Taylor Made on Mar 30, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Meh. We just want to beat you.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Mar 30, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Meh. We just want to ~~beat~~ be you.

Fixed. But seriously, lets go Mets.

"We knew it could get out of hand..." Dick Jauron following 56-10 loss to New England.

by JD-KT on Mar 30, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

NetsDaily is the most active board on SB Nation.

So I’m going to go with there just being more people…

by Clayton Balch on Mar 30, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

For a team thats constantly being joked about with having a pathetic fan base that doesnt show up to games

tons of us are out in full force on NetsDaily.

by NetsMets4Life on Mar 30, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but look at how many people show up to Nets games

The only time they were sold out this year was when the Knicks played there.

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

New Jersey has proven to be unable to support the Nets appropriately, there's no debating that.

That’s why we’re moving to Brooklyn.

by NetsMets4Life on Mar 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I would argue that Nets fans have given the exact appropriate amount of support to recent Nets teams

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

almost everyone on our bench starts for our knicks every now and then.

by bobitostretch on Mar 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions

* ignoring the second coming of jesus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0IMCm5tXRI

by espnsucks on Mar 30, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you for your insight

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Mar 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

From "When Harry Met Sally"

Harry Burns: With whom did you have this great sex?
Sally Albright: I’m not going to tell you that.
Harry Burns: Fine, don’t tell me.
Sally Albright: Shel Gordon.
Harry Burns: Shel? Sheldon? No, no, you did not have great sex with Sheldon.
Sally Albright: I did too.
Harry Burns: No you didn’t. A Sheldon can do your income taxes, if you need a root canal, Sheldon’s your man… but humpin’ and pumpin’ is not Sheldon’s strong suit. It’s the name. ‘Do it to me Sheldon, you’re an animal Sheldon, ride me big Shel-don.’ Doesn’t work.

"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Mar 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

However

Shelden is a different story.

by fuhry on Mar 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I wanna vacation on She Wils forhead

Easy Breezy, Off the Heezy, by Weel the threel!

by Dual on Mar 30, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

Which side?

Two different time zones.

"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Mar 30, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Lets see some Brownie tonight!

"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields

by Thelonious Dunk on Mar 30, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Derrick! Derrick! Derrick!

I feel bad ragging on D’Antoni over not playing scrubs off the bench—normally it just doesn’t seem worth it to quibble over whether Walker or Mason Jr. should be getting playing time—but it’s the Nets and I want to see what this kid has.

It’d be great if he could be a servicable backup power forward next year.

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

Yessssss.....

Want to see what D Brown can do. Hopefully we will see him tonight.

by robk on Mar 30, 2011 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

You have to remember..,

Extra E was a “scrub” until he got the chance to play after spending the first 20 games at the end of the bench and now he’s a starter.

I think I have higher hopes for Derrick than I did Anthony Randolph.

by robk on Mar 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Yeah I actually agree with you

Brown is a different breed of scrub from guys like Carter and Walker. Those guys have been given their chances. Brown might just be raw with the potential to be good

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Does anyone else think Shelden is a way better defender than Turiaf?

Turiaf really doesn’t do anything other than block shots. He doesn’t have the strength to be much of a man-to-man defender against centers or a post defender.

Shelden surprised the hell out of me the way he was giving Dwight some serious grief. I didn’t know we had anyone on our roster capable of doing that.

Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile

by knickswin on Mar 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

Yes, he is a better defender than Turiaf

That was the reason he was the starting power forward on Denver. I have previously mentioned this. I would also like to point out once again that Derrick Brown is not going to see the light of day this year. The Knicks are still in a playoff race and DB is a zero time rookie. Its time to tune up whatever version of this Knicks team which is going into the playoffs. I would much rather have Shelden Williams giving Amar’e fifteen to eighteen minutes of blow than starting at center. But this is the Knicks, and coach MDA just does not like to have big active 5’s slowing things down. I think I am going to puke… nice win Knikcks.

by An Old Fart on Mar 31, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions