Cavaliers 119, Knicks 115: "At least we probably won't have to face these guys in the playoffs."
by Seth on Mar 5, 2011 12:59 PM EST
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PrintI don't really have much of a recap for you. Most of my notes are about Samardo Samuels's supraorbital ridge and how Ramon Sessions looks like a cat. The game itself just stunk. For whatever reason, these Knicks-- the same Knicks that stood toe to toe with the Magic and gutted their way to a win over the Heat-- have been perfectly content to relax against the Cavaliers in their two games since the deadline. This time, New York had the ingredients for a blowout on no less than two occasions, but loosened their grip at crucial moments and let the Cavs hang around. The two teams apparently made some treaty not to close out or guard pick-and-rolls properly, and Cleveland did a better job of exploiting it. They shot better than the Knicks from downtown and turned the ball over less. Amar'e Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Landry Fields, and Toney Douglas (in Chauncey Billups's place for the second game in a row) all had offensive performances ranging from solid to excellent, but none could prevent the Cavs from scoring from any range. Like frilly said, it's a good thing we won't be seeing more of these guys.
The Knicks played lazily and stupidly. The Cavs played liked they cared more. It was embarrassing. Butch Trucks said "chill bumps" at halftime. That's pretty much it.
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I don't know why they are so inconsistent with defense.
Play defense for most of the game vs. the Cavs and you win most likely. I didn’t see the game. I was at the movies, but by seeing a 119-115 score I have to say it’s a little crazy.
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Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Mar 5, 2011 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
or just like, be a real fan
i’m kidding, Jeterian, i have nothing but <3 for you. i hope you watched something cool at least, and not Blue Valentine…
by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wait i take that back
Blue Valentine was better than last night’s game :(
by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the former, of course
yeah that album is timeless. so good.
by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I saw Just go with it
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opinion?
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by ny knickerbocker on Mar 5, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
It was alright. I thought it felt a little long.
Some jokes were being pushed, but over I’d say 7-8 out of 10.
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the adam sandler one?
i heard it was good
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
you gotta love sandler
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Actually you should say it is a defensive rotation and a close out!
by Robert Currence on Mar 5, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. You don’t hit over 50% from three point land if you’re not wide open.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Mar 5, 2011 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
After the game, there are two factions: those that panic and those that are not
The Knicks plays up or down to its competition. As a fan you have to just sit back and say… wait a second, this team has only played six games together. I’m part of the group that thinks if you give this team time, they will succeed. They have too much talent. Panic if they are still losing games like this in three weeks, then you have reason to worry.
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Of Course they will succeed
Once the commit to the defensive side of the ball. Look when this trade was pulled off everybody worried if these two guys could mesh offensively. They are not having any problem scoring. The question with these two and it will always be, i am afraid is, are they gonna hike up the shorts and play defense on a consistent enough basis to be successful.
by Robert Currence on Mar 5, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Very frustrating to see that sort of game
they sound like the friggin Giants with all that “we know what we need to do, we want to win and that left a bitter taste” crap.
Amar’e and Carmelo play defense. They do. They do at times. The Knicks do too. Its just not for 48 minutes. They need to realize the fuckin seconds in between there too. Toney Douglas doesn’t step out on shooters. No one does.
Their shots were falling. They go to the basket and no one stops them. I dunno what the hell they’re doing sometimes that makes them actually do it sometimes and not do it others. Do they expect Cleveland to remember their win total and miss the shot?
I was glad to see Pringles doing some thing with regards to placing defense in their minds. I mean he took Carmelo out a bunch of times on defense at the end there…maybe that will get into his head?
I guess there’s nothing really wrong with going .500 along the way tho.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
you know what
in the 4th I didnt even see fields in the game, Pringles brought him in @ the last minute for a play. i just think with what he brings with stat and melo on the floor, we probly would of held down a lead. by 6 probly.
I think the problem with Amar'e
is that he is all of a sudden afraid to play a physical defense. Not because he can’t, but because he’s afraid to be called for an extra foul and be out of the game. He’s not a good defender, so when he challenges shooters, he fouls a lot. We saw him being out on the bench for long stretches this season. He remembers too and, I think, it effected him. Just my opinion.
by YIK on Mar 5, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
It definitely did last night. After the fourth foul, he just got out of the way on defense the rest of the night.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Mar 5, 2011 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
His pick and roll defense has always been terrible.
When the rest of the team isn’t used to playing together and rotating on defense, we get badly exposed since they can’t make up for Amar’e. Orlando and Cleveland basically pick and rolled us to death.
Didn't get to see the game as I was busy.
Maybe it was for the best.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Holy shit
119 to Baron Davis and crap….onto the next one
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Mar 5, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions
Why the hell is Baron Davis #85
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Grew up on 85th street
or some shit like that
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Mar 5, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
Stupid reasons for #’s. Like Ron Artest.
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Maybe I don't care because I don't like on a street named after a number.
Plus I moved several times.
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by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well maybe I moved near you. This would make sense.
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stalker!
but if you live in Manhattan and do live on a name street vs a number street, then we probably are indeed neighbors
by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are prob. still drunk
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
No..
these are sober thoughts for anyone with a brain.
by Landry for prez on Mar 5, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
still can't/won't hate
but i do think the subtext of last night’s game should be “no excuse” and lots of these: ?!!?!
i hope the guys will use their frustration to blow out the Hawks. they owe us that.
by KnickChick on Mar 5, 2011 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, I might of jinxed this game
I told my roommates this would be a loss cause Cleveland’s beaten us twice already as a joke…what a fuckin joke
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Cleveland’s beaten us twice
The Fuck?
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I hazard to say this would not have happened if Billups was healthy.
I’m not saying the defense would have been any better, but the execution of the offense the last 4 or 5 minutes of the game was just terrible, and a winning player like Billups would have been a better facilitator and made better decisions.
Also games like this make me miss the toughness of the mid 90’s teams. Offense is all about rhythm, and nothing disrupts that rhythm more than a good hard foul knocking you on your ass. I’m not talking about flagrants, just making a statement that any points are going to have to be earned. Make then think twice about driving in the lane. Intimidate some motherfuckers! I like how we lead the league in blocks and all, but I think we also lead the league in soft and 1 opportunities too.
Re-watch the game and you’ll see that Jeffries stupid ass killed us in alot of plays..
Him guarding Baron Davis was stupid…he gave him too much cushion to just shoot…
Then in the last play Jeffries dumb ass brought in the defender closer to the paint which led to the melo offensive foul…
TD was getting killed too
and I guess JJ told MDA he could guard Baron. it’ll be nice to have Chauncey back
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
man i just crushed the gmat this morning
so excited right now and it makes up slightly for the horrible loss last night. business school here i come…hopefully with scholarships!
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Mar 5, 2011 6:04 PM EST reply actions
Both St. John's and the Knicks have lost their mojo
I think we used St. John’s mojo on Wednesday to wing and they lost. Now we gave it back to them for their game tonight….
Landry Fields for ROY
Knicks should take SU's mojo.
105-57?
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clyde kept calling she-will "shelton"
which i found oddly appropriate as both shelties and sheldon williams are kinda weird looking.
blech stupid loss.
by old 34 on Mar 5, 2011 8:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
what the fuck is that on spike lee's head
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by Mase in Your Face! on Mar 5, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions
So much for feel good wins..
Beating the Cavs, the lowliest of the low, would have been “feel good” too, considering..
Thank goodness for that practice video and the music video of the practice video. Cheered me up some.
Let's just move on.
and beat Atlanta tomorrow and whoever we play after them as well. This was an aberration.
yes, i really hope we start winning on a consistent basis.
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 5, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t think Billups is going to play. Gonna be a tough one tonight.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Mar 6, 2011 9:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
the Hawks have been ridiculous in defensive efficiency since the Hinrich trade
I don’t think it’s a coincidence. our problem wasn’t offensive execution against Cleveland, nor was it rebounding – but those will still be the main areas of emphasis against Atlanta.
it will be tough, but who knows, really.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I realize
That every time these Knicks lose, probably for years, I’m going to question the wisdom of the Carmelo trade. But the more I thought about it, I though, hmmm… No Turiaf – vulnerable to interior defensive lapses. No Billups, vulnerable to game closeout deficiency.
there were a ton of people questioning the wisdom of not making the Carmelo trade
every time the Old Knicks dropped a seemingly easy game. it hasn’t even been two weeks yet!
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I mean, I get where you're coming from
but I think whatever problem the Knicks have in the post-Melo trade era will usually stem from other areas
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
People act like the Knicks broke up a seven time world champion to make this trade. They broke up a .500 team that also played crappy defense. Should the championship team of 1969-70 not traded integral parts of that team for Jerry Lucas and Earl Monroe? They wouldn’t have won in 1973 without them.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Mar 6, 2011 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"They broke up a .500 team that also played crappy defense"
To the extent that people are pissed about the trade, it’s because losses like this to teams like the Cavs suggest that they broke up a (young, cheap, very rootable) team in order to lock themselves into remaining a .500 team with crappy defense for the next several years, thanks to sacrificing depth and committing yet another $20m/year to yet another one-dimensional player who doesn’t address any of the areas of need that existed before and were, in fact, exacerbated by the trade.
One could reasonably expect that the new core of players will play somewhat better together over time, but without significant additions this is still a fatally flawed team. Any material improvement in the quality of the team will have to come through striking gold on very undervalued players (draft the next Manu or DeJuan Blair) for positions where we got nothin’, and hoping that our two most expensive players become elite two-way players now that they’re both Knicks, together. The only other way in which this trade might end up eventually elevating us to contender status is if it eventually causes someone better than both Amar’e and Melo (CP3 when healthy, D12) to somehow make their way to NYC.
But all of those are down the line. Right now, this team is still a probable first round out, but now it’s less pleasing to watch and less fun to root for. I think it’s perfectly legitimate to be frustrated with the trade as a fan right now.
My thoughts exactly.
Couldn’t have said it better.
by YIK on Mar 6, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
it’s because losses like this to teams like the Cavs suggest that they broke up a (young, cheap, very rootable) team in order to lock themselves into remaining a .500 team with crappy defense for the next several years, thanks to sacrificing depth and committing yet another $20m/year to yet another one-dimensional player who doesn’t address any of the areas of need that exi
implying that the loss to the Cavs means anything is irresponsible in itself. 10 days, 4 practices maybe, I think? Jesus Christ, dude.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I refuse to read this recap
Just beat ATL tonight and well forget about this hiccup.
Armed Robbery
by Gelatin on Mar 6, 2011 10:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
agree, i hope we win!
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
Bunga Bunga Party anyone???
NO Oline in the first!!!!!!!!!
Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo! Stat and Melo!!!!!!
I wrote this sig. So if Chris Broussard says he did. he's lying. infact if Chris Broussard says he wrote any store he's lying
by 56THE REAL LT on Mar 6, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
is anybody watching bulls and heat game, man you can see TT footprints all over that bULLS TEAM
Coaching really can make a difference in NBA, it is one of the must underrated aspects of the game.
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