Bulls 103, Knicks 90: "Time to watch Gossip Girl."
by Seth on Apr 13, 2011 4:10 AM EDT
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PrintWell, it was a game for a while, wasn't it? The early going saw the Knicks slap together a lead with keen ball movement, fine shooting, and the occasional spasm of defensive vigor. It was cool. Then, well...yeah. Chinua Achebe, I'm afraid. After an engaged but flat-footed first half, something-- perhaps Derrick Rose's leadership, perhaps Tom Thibodeau's satanic braying, perhaps just spite-- ignited the Bulls, and they just snuffed out our Knicks in the third quarter. I do not like those Bulls one bit, but they're a very good team when they feel like defending. They're probably better than the Knicks, and they're 100 percefinitely better than the Knicks sans Amar'e Stoudemire. New York stayed outside with their big man absent, an attack that worked early on but buckled when the ball stopped moving, the rims got tight and the Bulls got to closing out. By 10 o'clock, (are there Irish people with the last name O'Clock?) folks like DonMoosavi, as quoted in the headline above, abandoned the event to go watch their prime time Tuesday night programming of choice. The Knicks at least went through the motions of making the run, even if it pretty clearly wasn't going anywhere. You really can't blame those who fled for the comfort of [researches] "a one-hour drama about the scandalous lives of Manhattan's elite". Maybe a little. Although this show seems kind of okay. It appears to star some very fancy ladies. Wait, Michelle Trachtenberg!? Nobody told me this!?
So, yeah. They lost. It's not meaningless, so to speak, but it's probably not worth fretting over. Take the jump for notes, few of which will be coherent.
- Carmelo Anthony did his thing, but ended up just 8-19 for 21 points. For what it's worth, it seemed like Chicago got away with more ball-swiping (both legal and illegal) than other teams do against Melo.
- Speaking of ball-swiping: Yikes! That's called a sack-snaggle, and as Ronnie Brewer's poor face confirms, it hurts. It's been a long journey for Anthony Carter, and he's picked up a thing or two.
- And now I'm imagining Anthony Carter collecting scrota like some frontier villain might collect scalps. We should probably move on.
- It was a very Landry first half, I thought. Landry Fields finally looked sharp on offense, particularly in transition. He stopped and popped for a few jumpers, and also finished a nice two-man break with Melo. He kind of tapered off in the second half, (as did pretty much everybody, except for maybe Bill Walker.) but shit got pretty Landry for a moment there.
- Yeah, Bill Walker played well. 6-12, 18 points. +10 on the evening, too, if that's your cup of tea towel of pee. A few threes, a few nice drives. Good basketball, and the only real spark in the second half. He'll play in the playoffs, I think.
- The game was on TNT, and Marv Albert followed a mention of the Knicks-Bulls game in November, when Toney Douglas was "unconscious from all angles" with an observation that Melo was "shooting threes from all angles" at present. Marv Albert is the Euclid of sports announcers, you see.
- With Amar'e out, Melo's been setting a lot more screens. When teams aren't vigilant, that practice can get him some wide-ass-open looks. Like, looks Carmelo Anthony should not be allowed to get. No reason this should fall by the wayside when Stoudemire returns. We've long loved using Amar'e as a pick-and-roll decoy, and that was with Ronny Turiaf as the roller. If a Melo-ballhandler pick-and-roll can be choreographed with Amar'e lurking at the elbow, it'll be a son of a gun to defend.
- I'm pretty "eh" on the small-ball zone defense at this point. Jared Jeffries doesn't have quite the disruptive flair in the middle that he used to. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong on that one.
- C.J. Watson shoots his jumpers too high and they go in too often.
- Shawne Williams fell off from outside after a nice start, but he did put one DOWN on Taj Gibson. Flushing that poop!
- In exchange for monitoring and rehabilitating his sprained ankle, Amar'e Stoudemire "blessed" the entire Knicks training staff with iPads. If somebody bleeds out because Dr. Roger Hinds is immersed in "Angry Birds", you know who to blame.
- That Chicago run in the third quarter was like 24-2, by the way. It went from zero to blowout like THAT.
- It's never not fun to watch Carlos Boozer miss dunks.
One more regular season game, y'all. The Awkward Bowl (thoughts on a corporate sponsor?) against the Celtics is tomorrow (tonight), and then it's on to the postseason. AHHHH!!!!!11
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I've agreed with you on this since the trade went down.
"Red always instructed us to hit the open man. That night I was the open man."
-Walt "Clyde" Frazier
by Rohpuri on Apr 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hells yes.
Aside from the Bar Exam study time, I stopped watching hoops for 2 weeks after the Aztecs lost to UCONN. That loss stung too much. Ah, at least the Knicks rallied to reclaim the 6th. So that helped.
"Red always instructed us to hit the open man. That night I was the open man."
-Walt "Clyde" Frazier
by Rohpuri on Apr 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
go become a lawyer!! good luck!
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Nice to see your sleep patterns are as f'ed up as mine Seth ;-)
These last game just feel like annoying duties. Like being dragged along to some distant aunt’s birthday party when you were a kid. I wanna a playoff outside with my friends!!
Yeah, did you ever get that material I sent you?
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Aha! It was you!
Yes I did, and then lost it in amongst 3000 emails spread across 4 addresses. And I’ve just found it again ;-)
Coincidentally, I’m currently attacking the email mountain so nice timing…
Found it!
Check your email.
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize it's a big part of our O...
and we didnt have our usuals in there last night, but 31 three’s!!! 8-31 from downtown! I hate that we shoot so many of them….that’s gonna catch up with us eventually
yea, its a big part of our offense.
And wit Amare out, its depended on even more.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
there's nothing else for them to do
Billups’ slow motion drives to the basket don’t work but once in a while. TD DWTDD on those sometimes, for Carmelo the lane gets clogged for various reasons, including him standing there, and really that’s it.
They don’t have many guys to get after the basket. Especially with no Mare, and even with him there now.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I and i believe that D'Antoni would agree with me don't mind taking alot of 3's
However the type. Threes that come off ball movement and the offense I am fine with. In the first half we shot 14 threes and hit 6, why they came off of ball movement. In the second half too many guys were just runing down and launching which I hate. There are high percentage threes and low percentage threes! 31 high percentage 3’s and we’ll hit 15-16 of them. 31 threes and 17-19 of the low percentage types will get you an 8-31 night and get you beat. So yes 3’s are a big part of our O, but not the type we were taking in the second half at all!
by Robert Curre on Apr 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
man this offense has so much potential ,we canot fire dantoni even if we lose against boston, that would be a terrible mistake.
Melo explained precisely what dantoni system is all about and when we figure pnr thing out, this is gonna be like suns on steroids.
wheres this post game vid at. I missed it
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I can't wait to see how this team looks next season
after playing 28 regular season games and a playoff series together.
hopefully we can upset the Celtics, but I’ll settle for a win or 2. I really wanted to play the Heat in the 1st rd.
"Red always instructed us to hit the open man. That night I was the open man."
-Walt "Clyde" Frazier
by Rohpuri on Apr 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1 win in this series?
id be mad.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I can't be mad, because just making the playoffs this season was the goal all along.
I’d have said I’d settle for more wins than 1 or 2 if we drew Miami. I’m just trying to be realistic with our series against Boston.
"Red always instructed us to hit the open man. That night I was the open man."
-Walt "Clyde" Frazier
by Rohpuri on Apr 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
still though.
the goal at seasons start was make the playoffs. But the team and the goal has changed since. And now that I think we are playing more as a team, and the potential has shined through against the miami(W), boston(double digit lead in 4th quarter), Orlando. I believe we have a much higher chance to just get 1 win this postseason. I would consider it a dissappointment.
Yes we made the playoffs. That was an accomplishment, a huge one when looking at old expectations. But with this team, right now(?), the bar has been raised. I see it going 6-7 games.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
no.no.no
dont be mad.
I honestly think they are gonna get swept. But I will be cheering my ass off anyway.
This team is a work in progress. Dont feed the beast! PATIENCE!
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
we're not THAT much of a work in progress
If the post-Kendrick Perkins trade Celtics show up I give us a legitimate chance at pulling out the series.
There are some serious concerns with that club. They traded their very valuable center in arguably their last year as contenders, they’re old, and Doc’s probably leaving after the season.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
i guess we will see
i am just not as sold as everyone else i guess. I am super pumped for the playoffs… its gonna be cool.
its gonna take STAT and Melo really playing amazing team ball for us to win some games. I think you all are underestimating Boston. They realize this is prob it for this team, and there is just no way KG is gonna go out like that. Since we just flat out dont have any defensive big man on this team worth much, its gonna take some real stepping up on D for us to win.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Actually
The dynasties usually end with a whimper. Witness the Knicks losing to the Raptors to end their decent years.
by superturboultra on Apr 13, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm to be a Dynasty you actually have to win a few titles
we one nada, we were as big a Dynasty as Utah and Portland, like them we made two trips to the finals during that decade and like them came away empty handed.
by Robert Curre on Apr 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
D'Antoni's job is definitely not in jeopardy
and I agree, this offense will be incredible once we figure everything out
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I seriously think adding Chris Paul to this club would give us a historically good offense
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
a big man is way more important at this point
that can play D.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
yeah but how much defense you need by adding chris pual, you fix our pnr and pual is mzch better defender tha n nash was in phoenix.
You basically need someone who is tall to play center, with the firepower we would have. You still have midlevel or something, to get sonmeone like dalamber. wont be that enough, cause that offense would simply unstoppable. Chris could reach nash level (maybe even better) in ny with that much firepower around him and dantoni system.
Ben Wallace is not a good idea
D’Antoni would have little use for a guy who absolutely cannot shoot. Plus he’s washed up by now, he may be retiring at the end of the season.
But that’s not really the point. You’re right that we wouldn’t need an all-world center, just someone who could board a bit and stop other teams big men.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
The thing is just about EVERY team wants/needs a big man who can guard other big men and grab some rebounds.
I’m not sure how we’re supposed to be adding Chris Paul while also outbidding everyone else for that big man with upside.
Mozgov ;_;
True. Hopefully we're an attractive enough destination to land one of those guys
or get lucky and draft one
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
the thing is
we have a still pretty awesome PG for one more year and DWTDD who, honestly, could fucking explode this playoffs.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Sure, it would be nice...
I really just don’t see how we will be able to afford Paul as well as add a big and bench depth. PLUS… the more I think about it… the more worried I am about his knee longterm. Considering he’d want a max. i mean isn’t it enough of a risk to have Amar’e on a max with a risky knee?? (note… I feel very confident in Amar’e longterm health… but still have to weigh your options in bringing on another player who’s had a serious injury that could potentially return)
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's really too early to be thinking about all that
As we’ve seen over the past year, a lot can change.
We’ll see what happens over the summer with our big man situation and where we are with depth and assets. But if Chris Paul returns to form next season it’s gonna be real tough to pass that up.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
Paul + Okafor
but prioritizing ANYTHING over adding Chris Paul is insane. He’s Chris Paul for crying out loud… I’d love to have a great center but it’s not like you can’t sign serviceable players to your MLE
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
yeah. Samuel Dalembert not worth giving up on the Chis Paul dream in my opinion
It’s kind of like people saying last fall that they would rather sign Marc Gasol over Carmelo this summer because he addresses our needs more. I mean, really? I’m not even exaggerating when I say Carmelo is this best player in the game some nights, and we’re gonna pass over him for an overpaid role player?
Not to mention, Marc Gasol isn’t even that great a defender and rebounder. He’s actually looked like a pretty meh player everytime I watch him.
Having a complete team is great, but there are more than one ways to skin a cat. Miami is the opposite of a complete team, it’s literally 2 great players, 1 very good player, and scrubs, but they still scare me more than any other team.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
I dig Chris Paul, I really do.... but you cannot act like he doesn't come with question marks!
People are right to wonder about the future of his knee and just because we signed Amar’e (who also has health questions), it is certainly a fair point to bring up how risky it would be to have another MAJOR piece of your team with a notably weak limb. That doesn’t mean I expect Paul to get a major injury tomorrow, but he is no longer “automatic” in my view. That is partially due to the growing number of excellent PGs in this league.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 14, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad someone brought up screens
Melo is so lazy setting them. A lot of times he just sort of walks by sets for half a second and then goes to set up in his sweet spot. He needs to realize how effective a good screen is.
if melo is lazy,
and I think he sets em better than amare…than what is amare considered as…?
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I really miss Ewing setting screens.
You can’t hope that the defender stumbles into your screen by accident. You gotta put the screen on them. Ewing was great at that.
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Oakley too if I recall...
I remember lots of his jumpers coming from them… a jumper that got rather decent actually
You might actually be seeing the D'antoni bluff-screen
It’s where you act like you’re going to screen but actually don’t make contact.
Yeah. Apparently Millsap is one of the best screeners in the game because he never actually makes contact.
Helps you slip for the roll better and not allow the big man as much time to hedge on the pick. It was counter-intuitive to everything I learned when I was younger, but it makes sense. There’s times for both kinds of screens, but since most PnRs are called out by the help defense and anticipated for anyway, I guess the No Contact screen is a LOT more useful than I thought back then.
I think the slip-screen is most effective when it's not used every time.
That would be like fake punting every time.
You’ve gotta set enough good solid hard screens to keep the defender honest, and thinking he has to fight over. Amare slips every time.
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
If you watch when Amare goes to set a screen, the defender already begins to prepare for the slip. They don't even react like there's a screen to fight over.
I bet if Amare set a real screen he would shock the defense and end up wide open.
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilson Chandler was very good at the slip screen
I remember alot of plays with Felton where he’d slip it and then roll and get a layup or dunk or something.
Like you said, it’s good on occasion, but I don’t like when they over-use it
If you mean the defender on Amare anticipating the slip, that theoretically should free up a lane to the rim for the primary ball handler
If you mean the defender on the ball, just having Chauncey/Toney reverse their dribble would send his man careening into the other defender like von Wafer into Jermaine O’Neal.
Unless I mis-read something.
can't win em all, I guess
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Jeffries
is infuriating. His defense as of late seems to be of the “foul the guy but still let him score” variety.
I root for the Knicks, Mets and Giants, as well as the Seahawks and Mariners. Am I anti-winning?!?
yea
freakn ridiculous, if he’s gana foul he should at least try to send the dude to the ground. enough of the “im gana slap his wrist cuz i got beat” type of shit.
by bobitostretch on Apr 13, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think hes played his way out of the rotation.
He’s going to get mins only by:
-foul trouble to turiaf / she-wil
-matchup priority. ala, guarding a fast center or playing in a zone effort against rondo
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I agree
He’s going to ride the pine in the playoffs unless they are having a problem with Rondo and D’antoni will send Jeffries in to try to do something about it.
I'd be surprised if we didn't see Jeffries.
And I said “surprised” not “disappointed”. I’d be more than happy if he spent most of his time sitting. But I still think Mike D believes Jeffries offers us something on the D and I don’t see that opinion changing enough with the playoffs right on the horizon.
Here’s to hoping I’m wrong.
What was really infuriating was when we were paying him $7 million/year
Now he’s mostly just pathetic rather than rage-inducing.
yeah, I admit i thought he would be playing much better than he has been snce his return.
I mean, his strongpoint was his defense… and even that looks weak lately.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
For all the crap Brook Lopez and Pau Gasol get about being soft
those two have NOTHING on this guy. The only thing he does that isn’t completely soft is taking charges, which if you think about it, is brave but still pretty soft.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
Bully on his new production binge.
“I’m playing with more energy, I’ve been trying to work on changing my game, learning how to be a guard. It’s been a long process for me but I feel I’m getting better,” Walker said. “It’s stuff like handling the ball more. I played small forward and power forward my whole life, and to make an adjustment to playing guard when you’re in the league is a big jump.”
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
forreal tho..I think
hes gained most of that weight back. Im thinking now that this is why he struggled early on in his new body. He was used to playing “big” . If he kept it off, hed be a lot quicker right now.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
See
the thing is, he sucked when he was thin.
I often forget, this guy was good last year, for a big stretch of games. He scored efficiently, consistently. He seemed to take more shots when they were there for him, less when they weren’t.
Then they made him lose weight and he looked terrible in summer league and Fields beat him out in training camp. This is one thing that annoys me about the NBA – you can be totally effective on the floor but if your body fat is over some arbitrary number and you don’t look ripped, you aren’t allowed to play.
I'm hoping he gets solid spin in the postseason.
Besides the streak Melo has been on lately, Bully is our most consistent 3pt threat to spread things out for the other guys. I feel like his 3 is gonna go in… where for some reason with Shawne, I feel like it’s not.
Agreed. I really like what Bully brings.
He can not only stretch out a defense, but he can also slash through the openings created by Stat and Melo for finishes at the rim. Actually think he brings more to the table than Landry right now. But I think he’s better off the bench. Him and TD can bring in some offense off the bench.
I know he is only around 6'6"
but I honestly think the coaching staff should not stress about his weight and play him more as a stretch 4. He’s wide and strong enough to box out well (if he tried a bit harder) and do a decent job on the boards and I’d rather have a quick and agile (if undersized) PF out there than a slower-than-average SG. On offense, of course, having a PF who can hit threes at close to 40% is D’Antoni’s wet dream. Bully could be a kind of poor man’s Wilson Chandler off the bench.
NBA Summer league cancelled :(
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Saw that too. I dunno... the skeptic in me says pretty much anything about the NBAs future
is really just scare tactics and idle threats.
i hate how everything comes down to politics. I’m almost at the point where they should just end the CBA tomorrow…. not like this isn’t gonna come down to minutes before the deadlien anyways, right?!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
SOP for labor negotiations
try to win the public opinion battle now, actually negotiate later. I agree, it sucks but it’s an inevitability in deadline situations.
I’d love for labor agreements to be replaced by some of deadline-less fluid system where the sides can change terms throughout the process and/or parameters are set to account for certain events taking place. Going through the charade every 4-5 years and yelling about winners and losers is not the most productive way to go about business.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Right. Or something like arbitration
where each side recommends what it wants and a neutral party works the compromise.
what a wonderful world it would be, right?
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah!
I don’t get why meritocratic systems (in and out of government) are so frowned upon. they’re imperfect, but so is everything.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
cancelled.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 13, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
a one-hour drama about the scandalous lives of Manhattan’s elite
Jeez, that sounds like watching the Isiah-era Knicks.
JJ
I was at the game and at one point jj “pulled down” an offensive rebound, but kind of by accident and a bull had their hands on the ball too. It kind of slipped off jj’s “hands” and landed out of bounds, but ended up being knick ball. Me and the stranger I was sitting next to instinctively turned to each other and went, “was…is that…did jj just get a board?” We decided it should count for half. Like most of his boards.
by Jackaroe on Apr 13, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's my biggest issue with him...
if he grabbed just a few more boards, I’d be fine with him in the rotation. But he gets pushed around too often for them and loses that battle.
Thanks for the title nod, Seth
Unfortunately I was entirely serious. all I can do is blame my girlfriend, she made me watch the first few episodes of season 1 with her… and…i got hooked.
Drama? Incredibly hot girls? I’m in!!!
by DonMoosavi on Apr 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec for honesty, lol
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Incidentally, Seth,
I really enjoy the fact that Francis the Vomiting Man has been slowly replaced by Chinua Achebe. I really hope it becomes a staple of the site.
The Knicks are back.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Apr 13, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
I'll never forget in high school when we read that book
My teacher was explaining a part where they say (paraphrasing) “If he beats on his wife anymore, they’ll cut his genitals off”, but he slipped up and said “If he beats off anymore, they’ll cut his wife” to which the whole class erupted in laughter.
Probably my fondest memory of that book
I know last night kinda wasn't a complete effort
But, Melo’s off the ball defense is horrid. Damn, I know that our defense switches alot, but so many times, the Bulls would set a pick on Melo, and his guy would run to the other side of the court. Melo, meanwhile, would shout for the switch to the other side of the court while he kinda just stood there.
I hope he knows in the playoffs he’s gotta stick to Pierce like fuckin glue
i guess it wont take long for him to adjust
when PP starts knockin down shots on the regular
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Well after that suck fest that coincided with March Madness
I’m glad we’ll have ended the regular season on a 7-2/8-1 clip.
Sorry I havent been around recently, Bar Exam study has taken up most of my time (July 26-28 is my moment of glory). But Ive either seen these games or followed on ESPN game cast. Can anyone tell me what it was that changed between 1-9 and now 7-1? Haven’t been able to read up much.
Anyone else think both the Knicks and Celtics play possum tonight by resting up and treating us to a benchwarmer fest?
Take care, I’ll check in at some point during the Celtics series. Hopefully we pull off the upset. All I know is, like Bart Scott, “I CAN’T WAIT!”
"Red always instructed us to hit the open man. That night I was the open man."
-Walt "Clyde" Frazier
by Rohpuri on Apr 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can anyone tell me what it was that changed between 1-9 and now 7-1?
effort, movement on offense. things move quicker, which means the guys arent thinking as much. and again, effort, both on Defense and offense.
Anyone else think both the Knicks and Celtics play possum tonight by resting up and treating us to a benchwarmer fest?
and yea. both teams are going to rest guys tonight. More so boston than we are though. I think DA wants to keep the team playing at a high rate. I say he’s gonna rest everyone after the 1st half. Amare wont dress as most already know.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
D'Antoni played everyone who dressed last night I believe, I might have missed one guy
But i thought I counted 12. But i might have counted somebody twice.
by Robert Curre on Apr 13, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They're starting to get chemistry
which means they can function without having to give 110% effort all the time to compensate for the lack of unity.
I had a hard time blaming them for that losing streak. It was obvious that they had to work very hard to win games and it’s tough to have to put in that sort of effort for four quarters a game during the final third of the season.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
yeah
The Knicks have been showing “effort” the entire time, really, but many visible lapses fell out of the realm of possibility. before, they were expending all their effort towards being cohesive. now that the cohesion is more or less achieved, the Knicks can work towards perfection.
for everyone that was like “where’s the defense” and all that remember that effort, mental and physical, is a finite source with disputable origins, and the ability to commit oneself fully to a task at all times is largely mythical and always has been. It would be nice if the omnipotent individual will bullshit didn’t spread beyond Atlas Shrugged readers but unfortunately sports fans expect the impossible out of their athletes (while exhibiting the same basic human failings in their everyday lives) so yeah the losing streak negativity pretty much sucked, and I don’t feel like too much of an ass for saying I told you so after we’ve watched them play so much better over the last few weeks.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I used to like that Yahoo sports blog
But it’s been pretty much unreadable this season. I’m pretty sure all of the writers would sleep with Derrick Rose given the opportunity.
Of course the first thing they post this morning is an article about how amazing Derrick Rose was last night. I mean, he had two nice dunks, but nothing worth a whole article about.
The most infuriating thing ever was they were recapping a Hornets-Rockets game and it pretty much went like this:
“Hornets played Rockets last night. The score was ###-##. Chris Paul had a nice game, but I think Derrick Rose is the best point guard in the nba let me tell you why. blah blah blah blah blah for two paragraphs about freaking Derrick Rose in an article shouldn’t have even mentioned him”
I don’t even read it any more. I just checked to see if my prediction that they would have a gushing fest over Derrick Rose would come true. Lo and behold.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
You know what pissed me off, that this game was completely winnable
- we should have been up by 20 in the first half not 3. The bulls shot 14 free throws in the first half and hit 13. All but two fouls I counted were of the stupid never should be done variety. Billups foul to prevent a Rose lay up and Turiaf’s foul contesting Gibson at the rim were the only legitmate fouls. The rest stupid non essential fouls. Then we give up 7 offensive boards, not because we are undersized and the Bulls overpowered us, but because guys who were in postion to box out just didn’t. As much as people have been ragging on JJ he was one of the few guys who consistently put a body on somebody last night. giving up needless free throw points and 10 second chance points that could have been prevented, actually wasted what was a decent defensive performance in the first half. Rose was 4-11 in the first half and Boozer was 2-13! yet the Bulls trailed by 3. That is the stuff that loses games!!
try going 100% when "this game is irrelevant" is embedded in the back of your mind
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Yeah, I'm not to worked up either.
But I do appreicate how the Bulls are playing every game to win… seems like every NBA team shuts down the last week except for the playoffs races and the seeding. Yeah the Bulls are fighting for the #1 spot overall. From a fan perspective, it;’s nice to see that.
Think about if this was the only Knicks game you could get to this season. Against Boston. No Amar’e, limited Billups, likely no Boston Big 4 either. Sure you get Carmelo, but there are so many names and a rivalry of sorts that this game could be so much more than what it will be.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
you shouldn't buy tickets to an early April NBA game
that’s just a bad move.
I don’t get why the Bulls had to try so hard. The odds were greater that someone would get hurt in that game than the odds that they’re going to meet the Spurs in the finals. And yeah, Noah and Brewer did get hurt so that kind of serves them right.
Still on the fence about Carmelo's dopey smile
There's a reason Thibodeau didn't get a coaching job until this season, and it's about to expose itself in the playoffs
He panics. He’s terrible under pressure. Remember when we played them earlier, and Watson was doing well so he left Rose on the bench until like 3 min left in the 4th? Last night, the opposite happened and he got scared to pull his starters. He’s a great schematic developer but he’s an absolutely horrendous game day coach. Ask the few Bulls fans not blinded by dumb optimism and they’ll agree with you – he makes a lot of head-scratching non-decisions.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Well If TD hits that shot we cut a 21 point lead to 4.
But you are right panicking in a pointless game when the goal is get a win if you can but more importantly come out healthy does not make sense. Now Brewer who has been there best defender against Granger this year is hurt and Noah re-injured his ankle. If either guy is unable to go that could make that first round match up against Indiana harder than folks think. Deng and their other wings have not defended Granger well. And if Noah is out or at all hampered that could cause problems considering Indiana has some pretty decent size with Roy Hibbert and crew. The game they lost this year was one of those that Noah didn’t play and Hibbert went for like 28 and 15rebs.
by Robert Curre on Apr 13, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Applaud them for taking a chance
Yeah there is always a risk. Course there is no less risk getting injured playing in the playoffs either.
But you know… this is still a game for the fans. Wouldn’t exist if no one watched.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Boozer had a career high 23 rebounds
Man, FUCK! I can’t wait until the nba draft to get a big man. still wish we didnt trade mozgov
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