Adelman available
by mindfeck on Apr 19, 2011 11:40 AM EDT
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Adelman has left the Rockets. He is one of the best coaches in the NBA. He has gotten the most out of his players for years, and overachieved frequently. The Rockets were significantly better than the Knicks this year, despite no stars and a 6'6" center. He was 2nd for coach of the year 4 times.
Who would rather have him instead of D'Antoni? He's handled stars before, done well to develop young players, and has had great success in many different cities.
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get this shit outta here
its the playoffs. first time in forever. lets not worry bout this crap now.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
by gbaked on Apr 19, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 12 recs
+1 x 7
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
wonna reconsider?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
doubt it
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe after 3 and out.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
NO.
HELL NO.
ABSOLUTLEY NOT.
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
take one look at our roster
2 players son, 2. Then hope and pray Billups is healthy, one of the Centers aren’t having that time of the month, TD, Poop and/or Walker are showing up from 3 and maybe Landry Fields reverts back to his pre-trade form.
This team blows. Did you honestly take a step back and realize who was on the court from the 2nd quarter on?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
never liked the hire, still don't and not into waiting another yr.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
then go be a nuggets fan, or a nets fan.
but don’t tell us you don’t like a coach that led us to the playoffs and have the best season in my lifetime
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
ease of the gas my man. we will be seeing a lot more of each other over at the Giants site.
Its OK to disagree with posters because not everyone is gonna say things that everyone else will agree with, but try not to take it to seriously .. its not like i just told you im the mailman that’s banging your mom While your at school or something.
agree to disagree and lets move on..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
2 things:
1.
we will be seeing a lot more of each other over at the Giants site.
i hope. only if my ban gets lifted.
2.
Yea. sorry, a lot of that was raw emotion from last nights loss. but yea. lets just move on
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
helll. to the fuck no
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No championship, or confrence championships in ten years....
"So much ice on my windshield you'd think I just robbed a Kay Jeweler. "
-LF
Fuckin Del Harris is available, too
D’Antoni ate shit for the Knicks for 2 years, finally got some players, and coached the Knicks into the playoffs despite a massive roster upheaval and more or less successfully integrated a new focal point and point guard into his offense in 1/4 of a season
by Dutchmarau on Apr 19, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Were in the playoffs...
You should be kissing MDA ass…
"I've got this Err"
by Gelatin on Apr 19, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We should just hire Gene Hackman at half the price
by ben linus on Apr 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I would actually support Firing Mike D
and hiring Gene Hackman.
I think Mike D would actually support it too…
IDEA! Lets hire Gene Hackman to be an assistant coach. How awesome would that be. Maybe he would do it for one season… why not???
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
i believe
he is in year 3 of a 5 year contract as the voice of Lowes.
not sure what the buyout situation is. hopefully not ricky rubio-esque.
it would be awesome to bring in an actor just to do motivational speaches
like… make Al Pachino your bench coach who only has the responsibility to give halftime speeches and yell at the refs.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Better yet
Let’s hire Gene Hackman and dress him as Charles Oakley. So he can be the toughness/defense coach everyone’s clamoring for.
no, not Hack Man
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally a coach who can
gameplan for Dwight Howard (Superman…)
by Dutchmarau on Apr 19, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But maybe
Gene would be a better fit in the Western Conference?
*He has appeared in many fine films set in the “Wild West”
i think we both need to stop now.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I wonder if Keanu can play the point
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Footsteps Falco?
He’s washed up. Last I heard he was scrubbing barnacles off boats! At the dock where he lives!
this made me lol the most out of all of them
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
phil jackson is not retired
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
no correlation
gene hackman is some 15 years older than phil jackson, one. and two, has retired to a quiet life of happiness and fulfillment.
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
idk.
i heard that Christopher read (or reave. or reid. whatever)
was looking for the Hack Man
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Soon as I read the article, I envisioned a post on this site about swapping coaches.
I like Adelman and all… well… not his haircut. But yeah, I see absolutely zero reason to can D’Antoni at this point.
Shit, even if we get swept by Bahston (we fucking better not!) I expect (and want) to have him on the sidelines at least through next season.
The guy IS a good coach, who has flaws like every other damn coach out there. But he also deserves a consistent roster to work with. Adelman was actually in a similar situation in Houston with injuries and such. It’s NY and we ARE very impatient, but I’m totally done over-analyzing Pringles and taking every Knick loss as if it is the beginning of something so awful that we need to dump our coach.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes when people talk about it too much.
It actually happens.
Follow me on twitter
Robinson Cano...BOOM
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so? I’m not gonna bash ur opinion (even tho I really really want to) so I’ll say this, I see why you want adelman. He is a very good coach. But regardless of either guy’s coaching ability and talent, why is a coaching change needed at this juncture? I’m not sure why it’s being brought up.
The team has slowly but surely responded and gotten progressively better to the point where they’ll at least play something recognizable as defense sometimes! In all seriousness we’ve gotten better and like it or not it has been with Dantoni.
D’antoni’s personality doesn’t agree with me. I also dislike that his name has two apostrophes when displaying possession, that in itself I’m sure is satanic in nature. On top of all this I am quite sure there are better coaches on the market but that isn’t the point.
The point is he is the best coach at the moment for this team. A team built around his unique capabilities as a coach, a team that again, has responded to him. They are just getting use to this offensive/defensive system and you are thinking about them having to learn a new one before the playoffs are even over?
I dunno, it may seem cool to u but it rubs me wrong kinda like our weird uncle mommy told us to never play with.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
anybody
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
anybody
careful…u know Isaiah is available for the right price.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
by Troy O on Apr 19, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol...that'll teach u
but 4 realz…newer aint always better brother.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 20, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
probably saw the scary maze thing that never scared me!
ITS CALLED DEFENSE! D.E.F.E.N.S.E.! I MAYBE-I MAYBE WRONG...BUT I DOUBT IT!
oh
that thing scared the shit outta me my brother…yeah, that was my brother who screamed like a girl
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
oh please, get off Morey's dick
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Apr 19, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I never said Morey was good
And I didn’t say I want Adelman. Just that he’s available and a good coach. It’s ridiculous to say that Adelman isn’t a good coach, or to think the Rockets underachieved.
Adelman is a good coach, but so is D'Antoni
The Rockets arguably underachieved under Adelman when everyone was healthy. The Knicks didn’t necessarily underachieve this season because it was tumultuous from the start (chemistry issues, trade rumors, more chemistry issues)
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Apr 20, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose if you're talking about in past years, with Yao and T-Mac, they maybe underachieved
But it’s not like those guys won anywhere else. T-Mac never won more games than with the Rockets. This year they didn’t underachieve.
T-Mac played on terrible Magic teams
that were stuck paying max dollars so Grant Hill could wear a suit.
He was a great player. Adelman underachieved when he coached T-Mac/Yao.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
In fairness it wasn't very often he had both on the court at the same time.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Adelman is not a very good coach
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 19, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm trying to be nice
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
that's like Malcolm X, catching the jungle fever
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
funny you should mention brother X
u know who did a very good picture on him? Spike Lee, who just happens to root for the New York Knicks. and guess who’s the current coach? Speak of the devil, Mike D’antoni!!!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I said what what in the butt
ITS CALLED DEFENSE! D.E.F.E.N.S.E.! I MAYBE-I MAYBE WRONG...BUT I DOUBT IT!
i said what what.......
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
nor is antoni.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
He should be winning with this all-star studded team
I mean..Jared Jeffries? Jared JEFFRIES? JEFFRIES? JARED JEFFRIES?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thing is this is the type of Knick games I grew up on . to bad we only get to see it when a team
like Boston makes use. Team is in need of a new attitude and although the young fan base has grown accustomed to the run and gun. I think most Knick fans would quickly trade that for the Hustle and the hard nosed D that i miss so dearly .
sometimes change is good and i think this could be one of them times.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
these guys hustle
I dunno what knicks team ur watching but we scrap our asses off. we don’t defend well at times because we don’t have a slew of defensive players. We have a bunch of sub par defenders trying their god damned hardest to guard bigger, stronger opponents for the most part.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
my friend something tells me you weren't privy to the Knicks of the 80s and 90s.... that was Hustle.
the rite coach brings that back.
And i did mention that they are playing balls out against Boston. to bad we don’t see it every game.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
no...I'm privy
keep it real save for STAT and Melo this team is not chock full of talent. You have STAT, you have Melo and you have a bunch of guys that know their roles and specialize in certain things. Not a bunch of overall talent. They crap a helluva lot. Game 1 they scrapped, game 2 they scrapped…even with Melo going off you can’t stay in a game like that without ur role players scrapping it out.
Nostalgia is one thing but give credit where it’s due my friend.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
point well taken.
funny though after the trade everyone was talken about the Knicks “Big 3” ….
Ive been impressed with the teams play but i also see Boston as a team primed for the taken, the only question was if we were gonna take it….
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
i think we definiley will.
and see anover-confident heat in the second round
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 22, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
this was a playoff game with a severely talent barren roster
the fact the Knicks didn’t get blown out 2 games in a row, Pringles deserves a ton of credit.
Not to mention all the roster gutting that’s gone on these 3 years, not one single coach would win here. None. Zero. Not the way this roster was gutted.
Next season is basically D’Antoni’s first season in NY, should they get a team out there. Every year its “wait 2 years”, then its “we got Amar’e”, then trade everyfuckingbody for Carmelo at the deadline.
You can’t win with this. Phil, Auerbech, Lionel Hollins, Jeff Van Gundy (who would’ve left the day Donnie got hired with that “lets wait 2 years” idea).
No one. Sorry. I know the ideal is to place blame, but blame your diapers for not holding your bullshit in.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
well this will be a popular topic through out the off season.
but im pretty sure( please god) hes gone next yr. unless the boys upstairs feel the way you do.
but im hoping the days of “Soft basketball” are behind use.
P.S. my Depends hold up pretty well..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Seriously though, who are your suggestions for replacement as head coach?
Who would have done a better job with all the roster turnover this guy’s had over the past three years? I’m curious.
To be honest i have no suggestions.
And my distaste for him has nothing to do with his ability to coach. Hes a great novelty act. I also cant say another coach could have done any better. But i do know his style isn’t and has never won a title for any team in the past. Im not that old but I am old school with respect to the game.
If (and im hoping Donnie boy sticks around) he will move on to another coach .
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
I just don't know how anyone thinks that he should be winning more here
our roster is extremely flawed. This past offseason was the first time we tried to improved the team instead of dismantle it. Then we dismantled it again.
No coach can win with that. None. Everyone should kiss Pringles’ ass for sticking around with this bullshit.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
We couldn't succeed in the playoffs with the roster before the trade, either.
Get over it. This was a rebuilding (or “building,” if you prefer) year no matter what. Any success we have this season is gravy, a fact which has not changed since season’s beginning.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
although I agree that D'Antoni hasn't had a chance to prove himself
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
pure speculation in the world of your own
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and maybe the Kings would be defending their title if they hadn't cut Desmond Mason in 2009
sometimes, you don’t have to know
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
sounds like a great plan
what’s next, rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard…..
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
actually
a team populated with Jefferies clones may not win a single god damned nba game…or college game…..or high school game….or work recreation league game…but my point is, it would be soooo entertaining!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 19, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated.
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 19, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see this team hasn't made the playoffs in 7 years
D’Antoni gets us there. hadn’t had a winning record in 10 years, D’antoni does that and you want to fire him for Rick Adelman? Well cover your ears and close your eyes Seth. F%^&K You and every @##$%%^& son of a b$$%%^^&&**() that thinks like you. In New York we stand up and appreciate when a guy does right! You want to be a bunch of back stabbing favor of the monthers then go be Miami heat fans!!!!!!!!!!!! Knick Fans= Stand up guys!
by Robert Curre on Apr 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I go 30 yrs deep with this team .. So that's a whole lot of flavors...... Pat Riley, Red Holzman, Van gundy....
Those guys got every once every day from every player..
Denver had the best record in the game post trade. Knicks 14-14 . So sad that you younger fans are so use to losing that a 500 record makes your cocks grow.
Yay for the absolute ineptitude of the east to allow a 42 -40 team look like a success. Oh lets not forget this jem Indiana 37 -45. With only 5 other teams in the east with records over 500 it would have been pretty sad for us not to be . Especially with the talent we posses…
Sorry ive seen real coach’s and this isn’t it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
you must think the talent level of these Knicks is the same as all those teams
under the coaches you mentioned. And you’d be drastically off on that
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Im going to have to disagree..
Hubie Brown (44- 38)- Bill Cartwright , Bernard King and maybe Truck Robertson.
1982 . wins in first rd . of playoffs
Rick Pitino (52-30) Ewing , Oakley and Mark Jackson
1988. wins 1st rd playoffs.
Pat Riley (60-22) Ewing, Oakley ,John Starks and maybe 6th man Anthony Mason ( with it being his 1st full yr and all.)
1992 Won 1st and 2nd rd of playoffs
Pat Riley (57-25) Same team a year older. but still talented.
1993 lost the championship series in 7 games to the Rockets. Damn you Kenny Smith!!
Jeff Van Gundy (27-23) 1998 leads a Ewing-less, exiled Latrell Sprewell and Bad back and Knees Larry Johnson
NY Knicks to the Championship game against the Spurs.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
there's many more players conveniently left out
who I’d take over who’s ever on the Knicks right now. Basically those entire teams. Aside from Carmelo and Amar’e, these Knicks aren’t even anywhere close to any of those teams.
Not close.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I could challenge you to name the name of the "players i conveniently left out"..
Because i promise you no matter how you add it up, none of them teams had more" talent" then STAT, CB and Melo.
But ill take one off the top of my head .. The so called supporting cast in 88 was Johnny Newman (career 11 pt avg), Gerald Wilkins who avg. 14 and 13 for career. or MR suck him self Kenny Walker . Oh and MR. washed up Kiki Vandeweghe and his 9 pts.
but we could go back and forth for ever (and usually do with you). so lets let the cards fall where they may..
this should be a very telling off-season.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
All 4 of those you mentioned
would cause 4 player from the current Knicks to be cut instantaneously.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Billups and TD are better IMO
Kiki and Kenny Walker were really really bad another words id take JJ over them.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
you know Jeffries averages about 1pt a game right?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hes D is worth more then Kenny i cant put the ball in the hoop after 4 try's Walker.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
this is sad...
Jeffries. Jared Jeffries.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
be nice to jared
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeffries has to be one of the worst players I have ever seen.
I’m sorry to those who for some reason love him, but why he’s back as a Knick is beyond me. A two year old jumps higher.
ITS CALLED DEFENSE! D.E.F.E.N.S.E.! I MAYBE-I MAYBE WRONG...BUT I DOUBT IT!
worst shooters, yea. but he is one of the ,ore aware players in the game. especially defensiveley
There is more to the game then putting the ball in the basket
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you may be the only person
in the world who over rates jared jeffries.
congrats for thinking out of the box
really?!?
Kiki and Kenny Walker were really really bad another words id take JJ over them.
so many things I’d like to say to that but maybe I’m just not privy to real basketball knowledge and history.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me rephrase
2 have yet to find what they were good at in life. And one (Kiki) was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past his prime.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
thats just silly talk
none of them teams had more" talent" then STAT, CB and Melo.
by ben linus on Apr 21, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1.
i know this. and i wasn’t even alive for those teams
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 20, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Younger Fans, Dude I go back longer than you
I go back to before Red was coach so what the hell are you talking about. Like I said they guy has has more success this year than any other Knick coach has had in 10. You don’t fire a guy for that! it is fans like you that are the reason that the dipshit we have for an owner really believes he can bring Isiah back and we would be all good with it. Because backstabbing MFer’s flock together. The irony is that Adelman and D’Antoni are best friends and have been since they were roomates when they played in Kansas City together. I wonder what Adelman would think if he knew that you wanted to throw his boy under the bus to bring him in!
by Robert Curre on Apr 21, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I had no idea Pringles and Adelman were roommates once upon a time
Very interesting, Currence, very interesting
You sound it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
so go root for the west
It’s pretty cool to root for the Laker’s these days!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
scratching head and i don't have dandruff.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
I too remember the 90s
I remember the parades following Riley and Van Gundy’s 79-75 victories in the NBA Finals. I remember Charles Oakley holding the gold trophy in his hands in a champagne-drenched locker room.
And now I look around the NBA with jealousy at Scott Skiles’ many rings earned through hustle and defense, in the tradition of champions Hubie Brown and Mike Fratello and Mike Brown, etc.
Oh wait…That didn’t really happen?!?! Reading this thread, I thought the OP’s version of reality was, in fact, real.
Can we please escape the 90s, Knicks fans? The league has—the rules are different, you know. I get the fact that Alan Houston made a runner in Game 5 against that legendary Heat team featuring Alonzo and Tim Hardaway and Voshon Leonard. Amazing. I get it that we couldn’t even win it when Jordan took a baseball break.
For one, I like D’Antoni, the players love him and seem to break their backs for him. He deserves more time and he certainly deserves some support from Knicks fans.
by KnickTerp on Apr 20, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
stop making so much sense
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope your not suggesting that the Lakers Spurs and Celtics didn't JUST (meaning recently) win their titles the Antoni way...
If you read above i may have made my point a little clearer.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Lakers Spurs and Celtics had great "systems"
The Tim Duncan System, the Kobe/Shaq or Gasol System, and the KG/Pierce/Allen System. I see this all the time, people bringing up Pop, Phil, and Doc to belittle D’Antoni. I assure you, if they had the rosters D’Antoni has had throughout his career, they would have a total of ZERO championships—regardless of “system.” Why not mention the hundreds of “defense-first” coaches who are recycled throughout the league winning nothing but the hatred of their own players?
And if the system was everything, why did Doc win about 20 games with Pierce? Why did Pop change to a more uptempo style (god forbid, D’Antoni-like style) this year when faced with an aging team?
Great teams have great individual defenders at key positions. Duncan clogged the middle for years while Bowen occupied the other team’s perimeter star. Now Bynum clogs the middle for the Lakers, and Kobe and Artest rotate on the other team’s star.
Mike has Jared Jeffries to clog the middle. Yes, Jared Jeffries. When he’s not using Jared Jeffries to defend the other team’s perimeter star!
I understand and respect your analysis, its a good one.
none the less, and this is just my opinion. I see Pringles as a novelty (i.e Rick Pitino in the NBA) and i understand those who disagree with me . And as a Knick fan i hope im wrong , but i don’t think i am and unless we go on a run I believe there will be a new coach next yr.. JMO
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
I have no issue with questioning D'Antoni's ability to win a title
Just as long as you keep it in perspective.
How many defensive minded coaches have a ring?
The coaches who can play defense AND offense are the ones who win rings. And as has been pointed out in a similar thread… of the current NBA coaches… only Rivers, Jackson & Popovich have titles to their names. Larry Brown is another but we have seen how his coaching has gone the last few years…
At least with D’Antoni he may not have a title, but he has been to the Western Conference Finals and was a historically bad call away from gettign the NBA Finals.
Like him or not, there are few other coaches who can boast they got as deep into the playoffs as he.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you watch last years game 7 that was not great defense it was piss poor offense down the stretch
Kobe missed 5 layups in that game! Layups, Lamar Odom missed an uncontested dunk, and the Celtics scored one fg in the last 6:47 of the game. Not because of shut down D by the lakers, Ray Allen missed 4 wide open jump shots, Rasheed Wallace missed two, KG missed 3 attempts from point blank range and Rondo missed two layups! I know great defense and great defense is not guys missing layups, wide open jumpshots and jump hooks from inside 3 ft! That’s bad offense! A low scoring game is not always great defense sometimes players even Future hall of famers stink up the damn joint on offense. The Lakers won the game because they had the one guy on either team who was able to hit some shots down the stretch, RON ARTEST!
by Robert Curre on Apr 21, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OH ya 14-14 with 2 of the best players in the game on your team......
See Oklahoma City before Perkins.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
OK City has a very talented team
still do.
Like being mentioned above, if you’re not counting the 2 best players, regardless every single player on the Thunder is basically better then anything on the Knicks.
Our roster blows.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
yeah with hustle role players
the exact thing i think coaching would help . Fields, JJ ,TD.. and what ever the fuck happen to EARL
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Earl Barron sucks, that's what happened
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure seems like some of his rebound ability would have come in handy this yr.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
yet he gets cut from every team that brings him in
wonder why
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 20, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe its because he found a nitch as a starter for us,. nobody else has given him that
same opportunity.. but who knows.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Yeah, he's a shitty bench player who magically becomes great if you start him
Because that’s totally a possible thing! He wasn’t going 100% against guys going 10% in meaningless end-of-season games or anything
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
i guess what we had was soooooo much better. that sounds feasible.
JJ – Pts 1.8 Reb 2.8 Ast 0.9
turiaf – Pts 4.2 Reb 3.2 Ast 1.4
Mozgov – Pts 3.6 Reb 2.7 Ast 0.3
Wow some stella #s here. lets see if we could have done better…
Earl – Pts 11.7 Rebs 11.0 in 2009
and 7 Rebs 18 mins for Portland in 2011 playoffs.
now im not a math major but id take these production ASAP.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
If I just wanted straight rebounds I'd go after Reggie Evans or something.
Barron was an interesting experiment last year, but his flameouts with every team he’s had a chance with this year helped me get over him right quick.
Reggie Evans sign me up
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
The Bearded Reg-end looks to pass on offense even more instantaneously than Turiaf and plays worse defense than Jeffries.
He’s the most one-dimensional player I’ve ever seen. He just goes for balls, Spalding or otherwise.
not sure where your going with this
we have no size or rebounding ability upfront .. so our boys are awesome and screw these guys who can board.. (Earl had 13 in the last game of the yr)
we are best!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Reggie plays thug defense(and I mean that in the most pejorative way possible) so he doesn't really help with size
So where I’m going with this is bringing in a guy who specializes and prioritizes only rebounding is not a panacea. Not saying our boys are awesome and we’ll win the Super Bowl. Just saying Reggie Evans/Barron aren’t worth the price of Starbucks so they can have a cup of coffee with us.
hahahahahaha!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
fo realz
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If Earl is the answer to our problems
the Knicks have an odd future
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
and gets cut from teams who have WEAK frontlines!!!!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
By teams that weren't going to the playoffs
yet is giving good mins to a playoff team as we speak… with players like LaMarcus Aldridge , Camby and Gerald Wallace.. hmmmmmmmm…….
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
But he hasn't played a minute in the playoffs with the Blazers
Even as they could use a defensive big man to help with Dirk. Don’t really know why you were lauding his non-existent mins(really, even in the last gasps of the reg. season) while mentioning LMA and Wallace who aren’t playing his position.
I mean Jeffries gave us good minutes in Game 2 even though we had Carmelo and Amare..
hmmmmmmmmmm…………….
what Amare. in gm 2?
it was mentioned that he was cut by teams with poor front courts . Portland was my rebuttal.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Portland is absolutely a team in DESPERATE need of a center!!!
Going into this season they looked strong with Aldridge at PF, Batum growing at SF, Oden and Camby at C with Joel Pryzbilla rehabbing from tearing up his knee TWICE. the oden goes down for the year, Camby shows his age with multiple injuries, and they trade Pryz without getting a center in return!!
Dante Cunningham is their back-up Center ahead of Earl Barron (who they signed near the end of the season).
Alridge has played fantastic this season but he is out of position at Center. Portand is heavily undermanned at center.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 21, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how you didn't say anything about anything I said and laser-focused on the fact that I mentioned Amare in my parody of your point.
Did you maybe not understand what I meant with that last line?
If someone doesn't respond to a point you made then you probably made it well.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Camby is their ONLY guy in the middle.
And he has been fragile all year. Portland is beyond desperate, man
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Rebound ability the dude had 4 good games for us last year
In PHX he stunk up the Joint! The cut him even though everybody they had at the time over 6’8 was hurt! Geesh a guy has a couple good games during a meaningless stretch of the season and we want to act like he was the second coming of Ewing and Reed combined! Chris Duhon had a 22 assist game for the Knicks let’s bring him back!
by Robert Curre on Apr 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, how did Ok City fare in Durant and Westbrook's first year together?
23-59 in 2008-2009. A grand total of THREE wins better than the year before.
Stop acting like Melo and Amar’e have played together for years. This is the NBA. Best basketball players on the planet. Ask Popovich and Jackson if teamwork matters or not.
NO NBA team with 2 stars just runs the table from the get-go because there are too many other teams with at least 1 star and teammates who know how to play together.
Hey, remember that fearsome Laker’s team a few years back? Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone and Gary Payton?
Hey, how about this? THIS year the Miami Heat have THREE stars and they didn;t even win 60 games. OMG!!!!!!!!!!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you so very much Knick Terp...I couldn't hav sed it better.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I admire and respect the absolute devotion and admiration this page has for its coach.... Maybe one day ill feel the same.
But still think we would have done better in getting a re bounder (Earl ) over JJ.. But im OK with being the only one..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
That he's a better rebounder then JJ isn't saying much
and in reality its really not by much. Jeffries contributes on defense (just look at his speed to help chase down Rondo in transition, Barron can’t do that shit).
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
If that play resulted in a Win i would agree..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
that play resulted in teh Knicks having a chance to win
considering who the player is, more then enough to give the coach credit for getting something from nothing.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Apr 21, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But...
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
...that's all you can ask for considering your alternative wouldn't give us that chance
since he doesn’t make those plays
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
i can say the same of a key offensive or defensive rebound
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
enough. really enough
I don’t wanna hear that yu don’t like a coach that took a less than 20 win team and brought thm to 42 wins,
we are in the playoffs. focuss on that. no more hating on d’antoni
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I admire and respect the absolute devotion and admiration this page has for its coach…. Maybe one day ill feel the same.
Dude keep it 100, I don’t even like D’antoni. I thought we needed a more defensive minded coach and already had my mind made up he wasn’t it. I wanted the nostalgia of Mark Jackson…yeh I sed it! That would hav been a mistake. Dantoni didn’t do much to endear me either after one of his first games he dared to fire obscenities at a few guys chanting for Marbury but as a fan of the game it’s ridiculous for me (or anyone else IMO) to blame him when the team has made significant progress. As a matter of fact speaking of blame, wtf is he even being blamed for???! Getting us to the playoffs? Getting a group of role players to respond and probably overachieve? I don’t get it.
It’s easy to say we don’t play tough enough defense when we don’t have defensive personnel. We still don’t have a center worthy of playing 40 mins nite in-nite out, we still have trouble at shooting guard, we still are shaky at point…..yet we can still bang for 48mins with the defending Eastern Conference CHAMPIONS using our B squad and coming up short by only a point.
Not sure why you don’t feel the same it’s okay tho.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Its exhausting being the loan voice in the room. :)
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
you are the lone voice because you want to fire our coach (who has led us to the playoffs) and not give a vialble solution
and then dare to compare the 1990’s ewing led teams to this one, and actually think this one is better. without any evidence besides your opinion.
i don’t know about every one else. but you are starting to piss me off with it.
Why can’t this talk be saved fo the offseason?
we are in the middle of an extremley intense playoff series.
you claim to be a knicks fan but up their you are telling us we are gonna be swept.
this is a form of trolling. i do not think it was your intention (but if it was @^#& you) really tho, stop.
we (or atleast i am not wanting this talk right now.
be happy with what you got. because the knicks do not need you to be their fan. if your not gonna support the knicks and say we’re gonna get swept, and our coach sucks. then why even bother posting anything?
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 22, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
The knicks of the early 90s were by no means chuck full of talent, Mid to late 90s that changed
hence comparisons not being made. (except for when Patrick went down) and the comparisons are just. With 28 left i expected a little more then14-14. sorry just did.
With regard to me Trolling , Man im pretty good if that’s just being figured out after 2 yrs.
FYI this site is meant for more then just giving “our” teams hand jobs, its OK to critique. unless your a Cowboy’s fan of course…
in the future if you don’t like what someone has to say don’t respond to the comment , it will quickly go away.. these comments were all encouraged and i responded respectfully..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
With 28 left i expected a little more then14-14. sorry just did.
yes. the average-below average basketball fan would.
and i know your better than that.
you can’t expect to just throw together superstars in one day and have them go 20-8.
remember, the heat started off extremley slow, and they had 3 months to prepare for te season and play
FYI this site is meant for more then just giving "our" teams hand jobs, its OK to critique.
i understand, and am in full support of critiqueing.
but not now. when were all tense and ready to jump on every little thing that someone says that may piss us off.
in the future if you don’t like what someone has to say don’t respond to the comment , it will quickly go away.. these comments were all encouraged and i responded respectfullyi do not think anything i said was “disrespectful.”
and you may be responding respectfully and all. but remember, were in the playoffs right now. and not many of us are for changing coaches in the middle of an extremley tense playoff series.
i was not responding to your comments to be an ahole or to make you feel be-littled or disrespected.
i was just saying what it seams many feel right now. so i was just trying to ask you to hold off till the offseason, in which we’ll all be ready for this argument.
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
supposed to be reply to Troy
Dear FOX... Fire Aikman
Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Game 1 is over-rated. (so is game 2)
lets bring it back to the garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 22, 2011 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Points well made.
but some coach’s do have a exceptional knack for being able coach high-end talent. i.e Joe Torrie ,Pat Riley and so on .. I also am not sure if that guy will be available .. So we will see.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
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