The three former Knicks on Denver combined tonight to go 5/19 for 15 points.
Loved those guys when they were here, but... just saying.
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If the trade wasn’t made, instead of being down 3-0 to the Celtics, the Knicks would be down 3-0 to the Celtics. On the other hand, Denver would have won last night with Melo, and might have even won game one as well. They’re the ones who should be whining.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Apr 24, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Exactly my point - thank you.
And next year, hopefully without injuries and with a few new players, we’ll be in much better shape than Denver. That’s something for everyone to keep in mind as we deal with the disappointment of how this series has gone.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Apr 24, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
good luck finding those few new players
with no tradable assets and no money to spend.
are you aware that we cant trade a draft pick until 2017!
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
This logic is wrong because
Everyone knows that basketball (unlike baseball) is more about team chemistry than individual efforts. Come on man, you don’t have to watch a lot of b-ball to understand that.
I would say those players’ chemistry fit together on our team much better. There are so many intangibles (and tangibles) that prove that. Even Fields played much better with the old players. It’s all chemistry.
However, I do believe that this team has more potential than the old.
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I've watched every game of that series (I was hoping it would be more competitive)
Wilson Chandler has been absolutely BRUTAL. He’s been taking and bricking so many stupid contested jumpers – it really looks like he’s regressed.
Felton continues to suck in late game situations. Karl kept throwing out Lawson and Felton out there at the same time and it never really worked. Westbrook has killed both of them.
Gallo doesn’t have the same swag he had before he got hurt. My guess is his unpredictable minutes affected him. He’s done a decent job when asked to guard Durant and is still great at frustrating the other team by picking up cheap fouls.
The Thunder look like a very legitimate title contender, it was an awful matchup for Denver.
Also..
I wonder how different the series would have gone if that offensive goaltending on Perkins gets called at the end of game one. Denver would have had a good chance at stealing that one. Oh well.
by 100% dundee on Apr 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but I’ve read stuff from Denver that says he isn’t happy there and that hes an “east coast guy” who wants out of Denver.
Why would ANY of them be happy there? No offense to the city of Denver, but Felton and Mozgov both signed as free agents with the New York Knicks, and the other two spent their whole careers here, and none of them ever voiced an unhappy word. All have received less playing time than they did with the Knicks, so what is there to be happy about? That team may seem good to observers but it’s a house of cards. First of all, you need great players to win titles, and they don’t even have one. Second of all, when you have an entire team of relatively equal talented guys, the coach may be happy, but the players are going to be upset about the playing time. I read that Gallo was visibly upset on the bench after being permanently pulled from game three because he was having an off night. Nobody on that team can be happy about minutes distribution.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Apr 25, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe. I like OKC, though this is what Denver columnist Mark Kiszla had to say about what the series has shown:
“Denver, however, has done the rest of the NBA one small service in this best-of-seven series. As a championship contender, Oklahoma City is a fraud. The Thunder is a collection of soft jump-shooters and irritable hotheads. This young team has undeniable basketball ability but a lot of growing up to do. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, the Thunder’s best players, received technical fouls by whining at the refs for perceived injustices. The jump shot of Durant, who doesn’t like to get dirty, has betrayed him for most of this series. He is soft and adds little besides scoring. Wasn’t that the rap on Anthony in Denver? That’s not a chip on the shoulder of Westbrook, but a whole bag of Hershey morsels. Here’s betting he will implode when push comes to shove in later postseason rounds as the tension builds. These flaws won’t cost the Thunder against the Nuggets. No team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in a playoff series. But Oklahoma City cannot beat San Antonio or Memphis this way, much less the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.”
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17917982?obref=obnetwork
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Apr 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
That just sounds like a sore loser to me.
OKC has the size, depth and scorers you need to win in the playoffs. A Lakers-Thunder western conference final looks pretty likely to me, and I’m not sure the Thunder would be that big of an underdog in that series.
I hope you're right! I'd love to see OKC in the finals - and the Lakers not.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Apr 24, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s a sour grapes Denver columnist. Most impartial observers who have watched that series think that Oklahoma City has a chance to go to the Finals. They’ve hit big shots, and really turned up the defense in the fourth quarter.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Apr 25, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That looks like Melo's lines from Games 1 and 3
That being said, I think Denver’s high water mark was that run they went on after the trade. You just can’t have that many premium players and keep them all involved. Let’s trade Billups’ expiring for Felton and a resigned Chandler at 3 years, $6 mil a year. I think Felton would make a good trade chip going forward.
Ugh
First of all, Denver loved Billips and only traded him because they didn’t want to pay him 14 million for next year. So why the hell would they now want to get him back at that salary? As for the Knicks, they’d be capped out if they took back a re-signed Chandler, and then they’d have to re-sign Felton the following year. They need a center and a young point guard to compete for a championship and this trade would certainly not put them over the top. Don’t let your sentimentality get in the way of your judgement.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Apr 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sorry, but this post is idiotic.
If you’re going to use the dumb non-logic of “look what the Denver guys did, ha ha, trade = good”, you probably should have held your tongue. Now that the Knicks have become the only team to get swept out of the first round, and Gallo was instrumental in Denver’s win over OKC in game four, what are you “just sayin’” now?
Now that the Knicks have become the only team to get swept out of the first round, and Gallo was instrumental in Denver’s win over OKC in game four, what are you "just sayin’" now?
If you’re going to call the post “dumb non-logic,” it should be noted that these are highly invalid logical refutations to the argument that the trade was the correct move.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Apr 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Idiotic is actually saying the trade was bad because the Knicks were swept and Denver wasn’t, without looking at the opponents and the details of the series. Knicks lost two of their three best players. Ya think that had an affect on the outcome?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Apr 27, 2011 7:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, exactly
It is simply the reverse formulations of Polyphonic’s implication in his fan shot. They are equally stupid, and that was my point. Great job.
You might have read a little bit too much into my post. My point was only to remind us all that Denver wasn’t exactly feasting with the wealth of talent we shipped to them in The Trade. It didn’t occur to me that the post would be taken as offering some kind of proof, in a single game, that the trade had been vindicated.
Anyway, moving on…
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Apr 28, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There's definitely a discussion to be had about whether we really had to give up so much for Melo
But I agree with rxmeister that our loss against Boston had a huge amount to do with injuries – its a bit unfair (if not, perhaps, “idiotic”) to compare the two series without taking note of that. I loved the players we lost in The Trade, but I think its going to be harder for Denver than for us to reach contender status in the next five years. But in the end, no one knows, so we’ll have to wait and see.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Apr 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Denver lost the series because Oklahoma had Durant and they had nobody that could answer him. That series once again showed that it’s all about the superstars in the NBA.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
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