onward and upward... let the offseason bickering begin!

by bucketsncents on Apr 24, 2011 8:47 PM EDT

yeah, the playoffs tasted good, though a little bittersweet for my taste.

all in all, we had good times... we had bad times. we bickered like sorority girls... and we chest bumped (albeit textually) like frat boys.

and now here we are, collectively holding our own genitalia in one hand (or 2 for some of us) ... with another off season of speculation, high hopes, and prayers coming at us like an orange and blue locomotive.

so what do we want 1-12?

me? i want to dump the 8 who are expiring... and build around the 4 who we're stuck with. below is an example. free agents i like who we might be able to squeeze in depending on the cap and the lone draft pick.

for you capologists... share your knowledge if you think guys will cost too much to fit. i tried to keep it relatively realistic, though i know none of us know how much money we'll have to spend.

1- jj barrea, TD, (a d-leaguer , rookie free agent or anthony carter)

2- shannon brown, landry

3- melo, thaddeus young (or sonny weems if we need to go cheaper)

4- amare, earl clark, joey dorsey

5- deandre jordan (or tyson as my 2nd choice), jordan williams (BIG center as our draft pick, or bismack biyombo or markeiff morris if available)

personally, i'm not a "get a 3rd star" guy... though i know many of you are. i'd rather go depth and build a team with youth, length... and some girth.

what say you?

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I agree with some of this

But I don’t think JJ Barea is a starting point guard. He is a true point guard, unlike TD, but not a starter.

I think we should trade Chauncey and filler for Nash. Sign Jordan, Tayshaun Prince, JJ Barea, and draft a big.
PG: Nash, Barea
SG: TD, Landry
SF: Melo, Prince, Walker
PF: Stat, Shawne
C: Jordan, Turiaf, Draft Pick

I think that lineup could take Boston. Miami too. Still a year away from competing from a championship, but that lineup would have depth, interior defense, more shooters, and length.
Nash is expiring, so we still have flexibility

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 24, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions

Wont have nearly enough money to pay that group

I think that a PG is bigger priority over a Center, but the problem is that are very few available, and while there are plenty in the draft, none of them is good enough to start immediately in the NBA.

by NewCavsfan on Apr 24, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions

prince...

would be a very intriguing addition, maybe even as our starting 2, which would create a lot of mismatches and put some real D (and experience) on the floor.

not a nash fan, and i agree TD isn’t a PG. i just think we’re going to have to sacrifice somewhere and the pickin’s are so slim a PG. we just can’t afford not to spend on bigs… amare can’t survive a season without some size by his side.

by bucketsncents on Apr 24, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I think if Phoenix decides to trade Steve Nash, it would be to get younger at PG

Getting Chauncey Billups doesn’t change their situation. Just swaps a great veteran player in the twilight of his career for another great veteran in the twilight of his career.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually they might move Nash for Cash

Billups and Nash’s contracts nearly match

by Robert Curre on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

why would nash want a declining billups

by jadedeed2327 on Apr 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

phoenix would laugh at that offer, their star player for that

by jadedeed2327 on Apr 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

They're not gonna make the playoffs next year though

Could do right by Nash in the last year of his deal by sending him to his favorite coach and big man, and the city where he lives during the offseason. Not like he and Brooks are gonna mesh in the backcourt.

Also, maybe give them some financial relief by taking back either Frye or Gortat for Turiaf’s expiring. I’d even consider tossing Fields into a deal that brought back Gortat

by Dutchmarau on Apr 25, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

GORTAT!

HELL YEAH…

by bucketsncents on Apr 25, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions

nobodys gettin gortat

without giving up a whole lot. Thats a top 5 center in the lig right now.

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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Apr 25, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Well yeah, but doesn't Nash's contract expire after next season?

The only way it works for Phoenix is if they get Billups and then decide to buy him out for $3.7Mil. But then Phoenix is down to just Aaron Brooks to run PG and I don’t think that is what they necessarily want.

I do agree that Phoenix is always trying to save money though.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Onward and upward! Onward... excuse me.

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by Doug Chu on Apr 24, 2011 10:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Yeah fuck aiming for a 3rd star

If another elite player falls into our lap, then obviously go for it. But the plan now should be to bring in the right guys to play with Melo and Amare. Offseason goals should be some kind of long term answer at the point and two competent big men.

I wouldn’t get rid of the rest of the team though. And unless he’s bought out, we’re also locked into Balkman for 2 more years. Turiaf is gonna pick up his player option, Billups for another year seems probable even if it’s only to use his contract as a trade chip.

I’d also bring back Bully, Extra E, and AC. Those guys are fine as bench players and the two younger guys can still improve, as they just got their first steady NBA minutes this year.

by Dutchmarau on Apr 24, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions

if we end up with...

that many of the same players… i’ll be very tempted to consider picking up curling.

by bucketsncents on Apr 24, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions

There'll be trades or buy outs

The only guys I personally want to see here next year are Melo, Amare, TD, Landry, then Sha Williams, Bully, AC, Rautins as the 10th-13th guys. If they can’t turn his contract into a long term solution at the point, Billups too.

That’d be 9 guys, so space for 6 new players, and a successful offseason probably means the roster’s added 3 players better than Extra E, Bully, AC, Rautins. Just seems like more than that and you’re gonna have chemistry problems to start a year where you want to win games from day 1. Even 6 new guys, 3 new rotation players would be a lot to incorporate.

by Dutchmarau on Apr 24, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions

interested to see...

what trades walsh can cook up. only real bait we have is chauncey if we sign him, and landry. unless of course he’s willing to part with amare (for dwight)… which might be nice. we just don’t have any real assets anymore. which is why i’m thinking our fortification comes more through free agency and crafty drafting.

don’t mind Extra E coming back for his specialty, but any remnants from this year just don’t excite me.

by bucketsncents on Apr 24, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions

PG Paul
SG Smith
SF Melo
PF Amare
C Okafor

yeaaaahhhh

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by The Rooster on Apr 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions

count me in...

though it seems our management got an itch they had to scratch. paul and okafor would be something to behold in our colors… shame all our assets have been donated to the nuggs.

by bucketsncents on Apr 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions

keep beating that drum

maybe Donnie will get drunk enough to offer something for that

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 25, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions

I'd be down with this starting 5

Can’t imagine what our bench looks like (it definitely won’t be very deep at all) or if the wallet will even allow us to afford it… but shit, if it works, it would very solid.

Well.. actually… I think JR Smith wouldn’t go so well. But other than that, sure!

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by Chris Child's Fist on Apr 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

i dont know

trade billups for felton and mozgov, then sign chandler?

felton
chandler
melo
stat
mozgov

td
fields
+ bunch of scrubs
can we do this?

by Teutoknicks on Apr 25, 2011 2:14 AM EDT reply actions

no and we really don't want to

No longer on the fence about Carmelo's awesome game face

by knickswin on Apr 25, 2011 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions

if the Nuggets did this

it would essentialy make the trade Gallo/pick for Melo/Balkman/Carter

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by Taylor Made on Apr 25, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions

and gallo's on his way back next year anyway...

by bucketsncents on Apr 25, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

please....

by Jason Bee on Apr 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL! Don't worry jason doubt Gallo would come back here even if you and Dizzy

offered to blow him. NAw I think he is going to Chicago. The Bulls were his favorite NBA team as a kid, and he likes shooting in that building, plus he would have a role there. He would come back here to play 10 mins a night behind Melo.

by Robert Curre on Apr 25, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

In fairness, I wouldn’t come back if Jason and Dizzy offered to blow me, either

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

is that your fantasy?

please keep it to yourself….

by Jason Bee on Apr 25, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

10 min a night? lol

he’d be the sixth man.
memeber chandler was the sixth man and played the same position as gallo and melo. and got his fair share of minutes.
Gallo get atleast 20-25 min. if not more

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Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Celtics win the series 4-0. Fuck

by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 25, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe if you offered he would...lol

by Jason Bee on Apr 25, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions

For the veteran's minimum?

by fuhry on Apr 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Okay I will play along

Billups, TD, Carter, Rautins
Michael Redd, Landry
Melo, Vince Carter
Amare, Jeffries, D. Brown
K. Brown, N Muhammad, Turiaf
+ our Number one pick

Redd, Carter, Kwame Brown can be signed for a split of the MLE and the full LLE, Nazr can be signed with a roster exception.

by Robert Curre on Apr 25, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions

Kwame Brown lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxEGhVVzUgM

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by tanman5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

there's a whole lotta tread on those tires...

redd? carter? billups? carter? nazr?

not sure if that’s the direction to go, especially if MDA is still at the helm.

though i’d take kwame and/or nazr as backup bigs… and if i had to go older, i do like the tayshawn suggestion, at least he plays defense.

by bucketsncents on Apr 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

It is exactly the direction to go. Pringles loves all of those guys

trusts them and would play them.

by Robert Curre on Apr 25, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

how can anyone trust...

the bum knee of redd, the empty and inconsistent points of an indifferent carter and the slowing down chauncey. true, they’re seasoned veterans, but at this point, they’re more likely just overcooked. within a year, we’d have gone from young, athletic, versatile and promising… to old, stationary and filled with one year rentals. redd and carter were scorers and shooters in their heyday… but we don’t need old scorers/shooters.

by bucketsncents on Apr 25, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Averaged 12 pts, 9 rebs, and shot 56% when starting for Charlotte this year

He is also 7ft 270lbs. Basically if we had a dude that big giving us 12 and 9 we would be sucking his dick. The sad fact is Kwame is an upgrade over everything we have passing for a center now.

by Robert Curre on Apr 25, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions

haha I know I wasn't disagreeing with you

It just reminded me of that youtube video

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

(in my pacino impression from scarface) Fine, you wanna play games, alright. i play

By the trade deadline next year here is our starting 5+6th man
PG-CP3 (shawn3’s new number will be 2)
SG-Lando
SF-Melo
PF-Amar’e
C-Superman
6th Man-Omeke Okafor
Beat that bitches

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Boustun Sux
Souless-a form of gingervitas (red hair and freckles)
Lebron james is a bitch
Celtics win the series 4-0. Fuck

by 56THE REAL LT on Apr 25, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions