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2011 NBA Mock Draft: Picks 11-20

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Here are picks 11-20, please don't crucify me!

Star-divide

Golden State Warriors:

Donatas Motiejunas (C/PF)

I think the warriors need defense and toughness. While Dontas is not what you think when you think “defensive minded big” he is the most skilled big man on the board. You can play him next to David Lee because he can defend centers but like Amare he would rather play the 4.


Utah Jazz:


Alec Burks (SG)

is one of the most NBA ready 2-guards. The Jazz need a 2 guard. He has a good head on his shoulders and is very strong. Very athletic and a scorer. Burks with Williams and favors gives the jazz a nice core.

Phoenix Suns:


Tristan Thompson (PF/SF)

I was tempted to put Jimmer Fredette here but I don’t see how they pass up on Thompson. While they are not replacing the void Amare left them with. They are adding a solid role player. He can rebound and will toughen the suns up inside.

Houston Rockets:


Chris Singleton (SF)

Shane Battier was their defensive stopper. After they made the trade they were not the same team. Chris is the best defender in the draft and the rockets have enough scorers.

Indiana Pacers:


Jordan Hamiltion (SG)

The pacers biggest need is scoring off their bench. Hamilton gives them that. While the have Paul George this allows them to plug George in at as a starter while still having someone who can create for himself on their bench the pacers are tough but they more scorers.

Philadelphia 76ers:


Kenneth Faried (PF)

Do you really believe that Doug Collins would pass on Faried? We all know enough about Faried to know why he would be a good fit in Philly. The only thing that sucks about this he is not there at 17 for the knicks to grab lets hope this is not Stephen Curry all over again.

New York Knicks:


Darius Morris (PG)

The steal of the draft! But I doubt when it is all said and done we only have one pick. I think they will buy a later pick and go after a big a little later in the draft (j.Williams, T. Thompkins, & L. Noguirea). Why not kill 2 birds with one stone? Another reason to draft Morris over any of the bigs left. Jerome Jordan. I know to pick Morris at 17 is high but I have a funny feeling Walsh gives 2 shits.

Washington Wizards


Markieff Morris (C/PF)

the wizards could use another big body down low. They could use a hustle guy like Morris. He has a big frame and is a better defender then his brother. He can also rebound at a nice rate as well.

Charlotte Bobcats


Reggie Jackson (SG/PG)

Michael Jordan loves this kid and the bobcats could use a pure scorer. I do feel he is someone that will come in and give you instant buckets. The bobcats have had a hard time finding points without Felton, and Wallace. Jackson & Leonard should be welcomed additions to Stephen Jackson, Gerald Henderson, & D.J Augustin

 

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Donatas Motiejunas (C/PF)

there is a STRONG possibility he might fall to the knicks and if he does he is the best fit for us, yes better then morris we could probably buy a later pick and select morris or chris jenkins with it but if he is there we take him

by frank8 on May 19, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

No Euro's Please

They have no heart for the game.
We just got rid of one Gallinari. Let’s not make the mistake all over again.
M.Gasol of Memphis is the only consideration based on the two forwards that would surround him Anthony/Stoudemire.
The Euro’s play with some skill. The problem lies that they need to be constantly pushed to play at a higher level when needed.
After a while this gets tired for the coach and the team.
You cannot teach heart. If you think you can to Euro’s then you are fooling yourself and the team.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is bullshit.

I mean a player with 6 championships who’s first name is Kobe might as well be a European.

You’re full of shit as always Dizzy and not even a colonic can clear the bullshit from your system.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wake Up

Kobe Bryant is from Philly.
Philly is located in the U.S.of A.
His father was a very good solid player in Philly.
Philly is located in the U.S of A.
Wake up learn geography and realize that Euro players have no heart to play the game towards NBA Championships.
When they play for their country they play with heart.
But when they come to U.S. of A. They just play for the money.
P.Gasol is a perfect example of it. He needs to be pushed constantly by Kobe to play at the highest level int he NBA.
They get me sick watching them collect the money and have to be pushed all the time.
If you don’t see this then you are a blind man.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he grew up overseas you pea brained marmot

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure

keeping an amphibious rodent….within the city…..that’s not legal either.

by total hermination on May 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Euro's play with no heart!

Just look at that Dirk Nowitzki guy! No heart! Or that Pau Gasol guy – he only went to the Finals 3 of the last 4 years! Don’t get me started on his brother Marc! Ugh… those Euros

by WSD on May 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pppffftt... come on now, we wouldn't want any of those guys! What have they done?!

Plus there are those clowns in San Antonio, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.

Yeah… pass!

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on May 19, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ginobili is from Argentina

which, like Portugal, is in South America

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he played some ball in Italy!

(I realize you’re joking).

But, yeah I forgot about those guys CCF! European players got some baaadddd reps in the NBA

by WSD on May 19, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it bad to say I lump them all together?? lol

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on May 19, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say you're making a huge little mistake

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on May 20, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

“His father was a very good solid player in Philly”

His father can’t be good or solid, because his father also played euroball

Therefore that is a paradox by your logic and the world will now implode

by lololol on May 20, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Dirk!

He still has not won a NBA Championship.
Did you watch him over the years and how he could not suck it up towards winning it all.

We are talking about heart.
Not just the talent to win.

So don’t B.S. or abuse me with your little petty remarks about players.
Dirk is a talent and has not shown heart to win yet.
meaning winning the NBA Championship.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

OJ Mayo has no heart

Cole Aldrich is a D leaguer

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Really?

Like I said maybe a blind man would say this about Mayo.
Watch Mayo excel next season as a starter for another team.
I just hope eour Knicks get him or as a second choice the Nets.
Remember D.Rose of Chicago demanded management get O.J.Mayo and they failed at it last year.
I guess D.Rose does not know talent either.
You just seem to be to smart for all of us Knicks/Nets fans.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he goes to the Nets

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Players don't know talent, they know friends

Rose and Mayo are friends of course he wants him to play with him. Rose probably also wants the Bulls to draft Shelvin Mack who is his best friend since they were 8 and HS teammate. But we will see if the Bulls start making personnel decisions based on D. Rose.

by Robert Curre on May 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait until he wins this year then

enough with the heart references. Its an organ in the body that helps pump blood and regulate the circulatory system. All NBA players have one, one that is probably way more conditiioned than yours. Dirk brings it every night, sometimes while injured. I think what you are referring to is BENCH!! which Dallas has finally, Chicago has, and the Knicks DON"T!!

by total hermination on May 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you measure "heart"?

They don’t grow and shrink two sizes, you know. This isn’t Dr. Seuss.

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh My Flossy

Still acting up calling people names.
Stop already and just keep yourself busy rooting for the Denver and your Gallinari please.

Toronto is a perfect example of Euro failure.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toronto only has two Euros who got regular minutes this season

They’re just failure in general. Any team with that little talent would fail.

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is just an incorrect statement

Dirk ain’t soft. Injury prone, yes. A victim of missing the extra pieces needed to get the Mavs over the hump in recent years, yes. Dallas is better than they’ve ever been right now. He’s probably the best Euro ever in the NBA and in my opinion has a very strong chance to win a ring this year. You can’t measure heart, so stop using it as an excuse for everything. Toni Kukoc had no heart because he had Jordan and Pippen for three rings right?

by total hermination on May 19, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose

unrelated question for you. Guessing by your pic….are you the guy that posts the videos of Edgar Allen Poe talking about the Knicks? If not, my apologies…I just saw a resemblance.

by total hermination on May 19, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on man

Euro’s produce some really good players
I think your being ignorant

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

by Archie Barberio on May 19, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that would be a solid pick

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, what makes you think Montejunas would fall to us?

I would be THRILLED if we picked him up but it seems a little unrealistic.

by flossy on May 19, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knicks Scenario

I like the Knicks scenario of drafting Darius Morris. Would also like the scenario of getting a big down at the bottom of the draft by buying a pick.
Would also like the Knicks to creep up in the draft and grab A.Burks/SG whom is going to be a talent in the near future.
As for the late round big we have to get a guy whom is a center that can rebound, hit free throws when fouled and make the outlet pass to run.

Morris and or Burk is good start. Maybe just getting the center from FA is the other option only.

by Dziedzic on May 19, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't mind Morris

but I think you got the wrong Morris. The twins from Kansas I think are the best value at this point.

If it was Darius Morris I wouldn’t be disappointed, I think he’s a lot like Toney Douglas but more of a pure point and less of a shooter (tho that’s something that can be worked on unless you’re incompetent at it like Rajon Rondo).

I’m not sure about this buying another pick stuff. Most of the time its not just a straight buyout (like the Toney Douglas pick) and since we don’t really have any picks until the end of time, there’s not much to offer there.

They just need to go best player available at #17 and not worry about position. If its any of the Morris peoples, then fine. But this team is not good enough to be drafting for a need. Everything’s a need.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

To me that's a good backup PG

maybe that’s good for this year and if they get Deron or CP3 as a free agent (he’s gone if they trade for either…).

I haven’t seen as much of him as others, so if we got him here I guess we’ll see.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the reason I like him is because he can play alongside Billups or Douglas,

since he’s more of a distributor than either of those two, and he has the size to guard 2s, and if we ever do get a true point guard, he could be a more than adequate backup. Then again, I’ve never actually watched him in action, only read reports and watched youtube vids, I could be getting overexcited.

by frilly on May 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Darius Morris a better fit than Reggie Jackson?

Reggie is a better shooter, and played in a Knicks-style offense in BC. Plus Reggie can rebound better, block shots, and most importantly- shoot threes.

by mindfeck on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Reggie is a better shooter, but Morris is a better passer, getting more assists per game in nearly identical minutes and a much better assist/turnover ratio (1.8 for Reggie, 2.3 for Morris), and in my opinion that’s why we should chose him, unless you know something about either guy that I don’t.

That said, I like Jackson a lot (for reasons more than just his game), and his long wingspan and better speed and athleticism do give him a little bit more potential.

by frilly on May 19, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calling Faried who is 6'8 and Benson who is over 7ft bigs is a stretch.

and yes Benson is listed at 6’11 but he is 6’11 the same way Garnett is 6’11.

by Robert Curre on May 19, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Faried cannot and will not ever be able to defend Centers at this level

Benson on the other hand may start out playing some PF, but he has the length and if he Bulks up a little will have the size to play Center. Faried is an undersized PF. Would you call Melo a Big? By your definition he is because, he is actually bigger and stronger than Faried.

by Robert Curre on May 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

A PF is still a big, first of all. Second of all, I never gave a "definition" of a big.

I would define a “big”, or at least what I’m looking for in one here, as someone who can block shots down low, harass opposing post players when they try to back the ball in, and establish position and fight for rebounds. Both Benson and Faried are going to make a living (in U.S. dollars or Euros) because they are great rebounders, and play scrappy interior D.

Comparing Melo to Faried because of their heights is just silly. There are a handful of great, underrated power forwards in the NBA right now who are similar in height to Faried (Dejuan Blair, Carl Landry, Lou Amundson), so his height wont matter so much if he has the drive these guys have.

Though Melo and Faried somewhat similar physically (quick, fluid athletes, similar heights and weights), you couldn’t find two less similar guys in terms of their approach to the game. Melo could guard any position 1-4 if he put in the work, but let’s be honest, he doesn’t. Faried gives 110% effort on the defensive end, whereas Melo gives about 30% effort.

by frilly on May 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeJuan Blair and Kenneth Faried couldn't be more differently shaped

Blair had “Barkley ass”, which allows him to establish position down low and rebound like a champ despite his size. Not only is Faried short but he’s slim… dude is destined to get pushed around. Carl Landry is bigger than Faried and also just not that great a rebounder. Lou Admundson is terrible. Honestly, if we use our first round pick to draft the next Lou Admundson… Donnie Walsh should be fired.

by flossy on May 20, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are quite a few in the 6'8-6'9 range, but each player is different.

Rebounding is the stat that translates best from college to NBA, and that’s what Faried does best. With that new measurement, though, he’s probably going to fall into the second round.

by frilly on May 20, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

chuck hayes, landry, blair...

bass, reggie evans, rodman, barkley, mahorn.

point is there are guys who can excel despite height. maybe not in all phases of the game, but at least in some important ones.

and wingspan helps.

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you are short it helps to be wide

Faried is smaller than Wilson Chandler. If he was Brandon Bass or Reggie Evans thick okay. But you are talking about a guy who played PF in a mid major conference against other undersized PF. Picture Dirk or Pau or even KG backing this guy into the paint next season. And we will be saying the same thing next year. We need to get bigger. I don’t get it. We spent a year complaining that Wilson Chandler is too small to play power forward. And blasting D’Antoni for playing smurf ball and what do we want to do? use on of our few draft picks in the next 4 years to draft a smurf like PF. I don’t get it. At least Wilson could spread the defense out and take the bigger PF’s off the dribble. Faried can’t do that.

by Robert Curre on May 20, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

a draft with no guarantees and no stars...

so we build depth with specialists. he’s a start, not a savior.

don’t think anyone is saying it’s faried or no one else… people are saying his strengths and obvious qualities are intriguing and complimentary to the core we have.

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, thanks

Blair is wide and has incredible footwork and balance. He’s prodigious in that regard. He and Barkley are part of a rare breed – strong, wide guys who can move exceptionally well. Players like that are almost impossible to box out.

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you joking

Have you ever heard the phrase “the exception that proves the rule?”

Dennis Rodman is perhaps the best rebounder of all time. He’s not someone you can point to to say “see, he can do it!!”

by flossy on May 20, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

though his existence...

does prove that you can NOT say that faried can’t do it.

again, no one is giving him the rebounding crown… but his possibilities are undeniable… and the NBA is filled with guys who were drafted low, or not at all, with questionable measurements… and made their presence felt on the court.

and i’ve said it before… but if you could get a guy who could match up physically with wade, lebron, pierce, durant and joe johnson, and had the drive and athleticism to guard the other teams best while making up for melo’s and amare’s rebounding deficiencies… wouldn’t you want him?

chris singleton?

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the NBA is filled with guys who were drafted low, or not at all, with questionable measurements…

There are about 450 active players in the NBA. How many fit your description? How many are contributing to teams that hope to make deep playoff runs next year?

And what on earth makes you think that someone who spent four years playing in the Ohio Valley Conference matches up well with Wade, LeBron, Pierce, Durant and Joe Johnson?!?

by flossy on May 20, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

lemme guess...

you’re going to pick every word i type apart, only looking at the words you feel like focusing on.

i wrote “match up physically”… meaning that physically, a 6’7, 230 guy with a huge wingspan and above average vertical and agility has a better chance at matching up with those guys than a guy without faried’s impressive attributes.

ben wallace, bruce bowen, avery johnson, udonis haslem, chuck hayes, raja bell and… hold… HOLD…

JOHN MOTHAFUCKIN’ STARKS!

ALL UNDRAFTED

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

but as Currence pointed out your physical description is basically Wilson Chandler but now we’re talking about the rookie version with no J and no ability to create off the dribble. I just don’t know if it’s worth drafting a better-rebounding version of that when we played too small last year already.

by flossy on May 20, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure how similar they are athletically...

but i think most of us would welcome chandler back as good depth. and faried does seem to be more agile, defensively intense and a better rebounder than will. chandler was bigger with more offense.

plus the $$ did play a part. we had to dump will’s contact to bring in melo… faried will come much cheaper (and chuck less).

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how athletic Faried is, but Rodman was one of the freakiest athletes this league has ever seen.

Or at least, that I’ve ever seen in this league. People bring up Rodman or Ben Wallace as undersized players who got it done on the boards and on defense, but they’re holding up two insanely athletic and strong players who are the exception to the rule.

I kind of doubt Faried is close to as athletic as Rodman was.

by GAx on May 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's true we don't know...

what faried will do in the NBA, and yeah, rodman did stuff no one expected him to be able to do, though i don’t think his athleticism was otherworldly. the guy just had phenomenal timing, relentlessness and a 6th sense of where the ball was going to come off the rim.

… from the look of faried, his interviews, his collegiate stats and his measurements… i’m hopeful.

by bucketsncents on May 23, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many dominant 5's are out there?

and how many dominant 3/4’s are out there?

guys like faried are a necessity nowadays to neutralize, or at least slow down the “superstars” like lebron, wade, pierce, durant, etc.

not trying to dub him anything until we see him… but in the absence of a big we can throw out there who can make an impact, faried is a great substitute to partner with and compliment melo and stat.

by bucketsncents on May 20, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different stystem

BC is a system that depends on ball movement, so the PG doesn’t always get all of the assists. They also had him play off the ball and take a lot of shots since his offense was the best on the team. Morris had more assists, but they were kind of forced, and he had more turnovers. It’s like when Mike Bibby went from Vancouver to Sacramento, he didn’t become a worse passer, but his assist numbers tumbled.

by mindfeck on May 19, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying.

Again, I’ve only watched highlight reels for both of them, so I don’t really have a sense of what they look like in a game—just what they look like when they’re on their game. Either would be a great pick in my opinion, but Jackson seems somewhat like a high-risk, high-reward from what I’ve read, which always worries me a bit.

by frilly on May 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

pg pg pg pg, but they might take markieff first and then buy a pg pg pg

dw has to rue the mistake he made taking jhill when all those pgs were available.
jennings, lawson, maynor, holiday, collison. yikes what a mistake.
now i know every draft is different, but they are all a crap shoot.
and the nba is a PG league first and foremost.
so, the knicks list the top 10 pgs available.
and they list the top 7 other players.
then you compare at 17 and take the top pg available from your list. period.
but i could see where the knicks have a tough decision if faried, markieff or singleton are available. but only take that if the knicks believe they can still purchase one of their top 10 pgs in the remainder of the first round.
as for donatas, take a look at his youtube.
then take a look at milicic euro video from 2005. you’ll definitely say wow i’d take milicic. big inside presence. well we know how that turned out, so you have to think those euro videos are not the NBA, so i’ll take an NCAA tested player first.

by knicks613 on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

you make alot of sense and i agree

ill have to take a look a the darko vids

by frank8 on May 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of international players this year

are tested in leagues far, far tougher than the NCAA. Biyombo, at age 18, dominated the ACB, which is miles ahead of NCAA D-I.

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played for Treviso

and is the second-best per-minute scorer in Serie A, which is impressive in itself. but yeah, he doesn’t have much experience against top Euro competition, although he’s done well the few times he’s played against the heavyweights.

"TV pays the bills in the NBA, but it doesn't do the game justice. I wish anyone who doubts the effort level could sit courtside one time, because they would be blown away by the ferocity. The players are just so good, so fluid, it looks effortless on TV." - Bill Walton

by The Rooster on May 19, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That ought to disqualify him then Rooster

The head coach of Treviso is a former D’Antoni player and assistant coach. So if the kid struggles out of the gate, all we will here is that the only reason he was drafted was because of his connection to D’Antoni. Sound Familiar?

by Robert Curre on May 19, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we let Donnie decide. But my two cents are simple

I doubt we are taking a PF unless he is the best player on the board. Donnie Walsh wants Amar’e to play PF full time, which is why he said priority one is to address the Center position. Now if Donnie accomplishes his main goal, the Amar’e is going to play 35 mins a night at PF not leaving much time for a young draft pick. Given that Donnie also has cheap options to put behind Amar’e at PF, Shawne, Jeffries, and Derrick Brown can all be resigned cheaply (Jeffries and Shawne both basically said they would sign min. contracts to stay Knicks) and Both are capable of Filling the 13 or so mins a night Amar’e would leave on the table. Or he could decide to bring back Brown whose Athletic ability he loves. Hell he could sign all three they are cheap and we need roster spots filled. So given that he has options there he may look at other positions. PG with more ability to run an offense than Douglas to back up Billups actually would help two positions. Strengthen PG and move Douglas to the 2 where he is a better player, and could fill the need of a scorer behind Landry, especially if he can become more consistent.

by Robert Curre on May 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

All for it.

Well… I think it’s finally time to say goodbye to Jared Jefferies. Nice guy and all… buuuutttt…. we can do better.

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on May 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd personally rather resign She-Will

A little more competent offensively and he’s a good hustler and rebounder. Not a bad 10th guy to have on the bench.

I could see DW drafting a PF who can board and body big guys and have him play undersized center like Diaw did in Phoenix and Shelden did in limited time this season

by WSD on May 19, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jermey Tyler

The greatest player ever!!!

by terellchewy on May 19, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyler might be good, but those red flags that come with him.... i dunno

Dude followed the Brandon Jennigns plan- play overseas a year then declare for the draft.
Except Tyler left high school to do it and bombed in the Israeli league. and then he complained about not getting minutes before he just quit his team.

Kid might be good, but having that kind of immaturity/ego won’t get him far on this team.

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by Chris Child's Fist on May 20, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

might not be worth the trouble

"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire

by Chris Child's Fist on May 20, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not

unless they have the PG higher on their board

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by Rorschach44 on May 19, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do trust Walsh, but with so many other voices (Billups with all his talk with the guys he's mentoring, D'Antoni with Montiejuna and whoever Dolan, Houston and Warkentein want) our board could be very scattered

Honestly, with so many needs right now, any talented player would be a huge pick up but at the same time a big is more important than a PG (due to how hard it is to find a big man and the fact we only have Ronny right now)

by hvino on May 19, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this draft

I actually would prefer that the Knicks trade their pick to move down a few spots and maybe pick up what they can. I mean, if Faried is there, and we think he can bulk up (I really have no idea here), then by all means grab him. But if the 6ers grab him before us, let’s trade down if anyone’s willing.

by superturboultra on May 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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