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Postgame Thread: Knicks 114, Kings 92, Year 2012

Looks great! I'mma watch and recap tomorrow! Happy New Year my children!

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jorts is very serviceable . . .

i’m liking his post defense a lot. demarcus cousins is very strong (how many guys in the nba are stronger, bynum and dwight?), and jorts was able to handle him. part of it might have been because they used to be teammates, but i also saw jorts give it to brook lopez (who is soft, but whatever)

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Jan 1, 2012 2:31 AM EST reply actions  

Hehehe
i also saw jorts give it to brook lopez (who is soft

But yeah, with some work to his scoring game and rebounding and stuff, Jorts looks like a rotation NBA player

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by WSD on Jan 1, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously everyone is happy with the play of Jorts...

but other players also stepped up with no Amare in the lineup. DWTDD had a pretty good game with 18 points and 8 dimes,I know he is really not a starting piont guard in this league, but he was more than efficient last night. Bully also put up one of the best stat lines I thought coming in off the bench with 11 points 4 boards and 6 dimes. It was also nice to see Tyson back off a little and contribute offensively after getting in foul trouble early. I also bet I’m not the only one who had a flashback to the pre Melo team hawking up threes like they did last night, luckily they were dropping, and one last note if Jorts keeps this up is everyone still going to obsess over us not keeping the poopmeister around.

ELIte

by colinlovestheknicks on Jan 1, 2012 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Well, Bully didn't have a bad game, but he still made a number of just dumb mistakes

Fewer than usual, though! I give him credit!

And the threes were dropping at first, but at a certain point they stopped, then we were able to put melo back in and he settled things down with a couple of drives and at least one absolutely stellar pick

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

not taking anything away from TD because he rounded into some nice form but he took way to many shots

I

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by Ozraider on Jan 2, 2012 6:00 AM EST up reply actions  

People are worried about no Shawne?

When he’s a glorified but worse version of Steve Novak? Nets got hosed there.

Rest of the team played pretty well.

I didn’t see the game, but the box score seems to indicate that the Knicks ran a fast pace against a terrible defense and hit shots. Carmelo distributed, which made everyone more involved, and Toney was under way less pressure so he had a great game.

Jorts can shoot outside and play D and despite nerves, is probably already better than Mozgov or Shawne Williams were. For just a second rounder.

Bibby and Lin showed again they shouldn’t be the starting PG. So when Baron comes back next month, he’ll need to take 20-25 minutes at least.

by mindfeck on Jan 1, 2012 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

"I didn’t see the game... Bibby and Lin showed again they shouldn’t be the starting PG"

What exactly did they show that made you come to that conclusion?

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by Russ on Jan 1, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i actually saw the game

bibby is a good third guard for this team/system. doesn’t turn the ball over and at least recognizes the play that should be made. he’s not athletic or quick enough to get it done for long stretches tho. and thats coming from someone who kinda dislikes him.

lin ultimately showed nothing positive or negative. it was hardbody garbage time, and scrubs were acting crazy trying to make a name for themselves. he didn’t handle it well, but i mean… whatever.

also what really won the game for the knicks was toney’s great shooting in the first quarter. despite poor shooting the rest of the way, it opened up the floor for him. not carmelo’s playmaking. whenever the kings made a small run we went to melo in the post and slowed down the game. so that kept us afloat, but toney and then jorts with a few lucky shots.

also tyson chandler absolutely beasted.

and not for nothin, but shawne williams is much more useful than steve novak. defensively its not even worth comparing, but also on the boards and general wits. not to mention shawne can play the 3 or the 4, plus he can defend some 2’s. novak is a strict 4, who can’t defend his own matchups really.

main contributors- toney (shooting early, distributing late), jorts all game, tyson in the second half and a little bit of landry every other minute. carmelo didn’t have to do much, and thankfully didn’t really force the issue.

all in all tho, the knicks were just due, and the kings are young and they get mixed up sometimes, we were able to take advantage.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i wish i could delete this.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

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by WSD on Jan 1, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

sick of getting so worked up

trying to convince people to be rational and diplomatic. its futile. everybody already thinks what they think. don’t wanna hear shit from someone else, they just want people to agree with their brilliant and unbending point of view.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

as such

wish i had the impulse control to just not say a thing.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

crappy new year!

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what you feel like

I just had a wonderfully frustrating debate at a party with a dude who absolutely refused to believe that science and God are two things that can coexist together.

It was maddening but in the end I enjoy that kinda shit I guess, otherwise I wouldn’t continue to punish myself.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 1, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Absence of evidence

is not evidence of absence.

I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.

by kywineman on Jan 1, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

therefore science and god coexist.

perception is one hell of a drug.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Science is science and religion is supernatural.

If religion can be proven scientifically, it would then become science.

I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.

by kywineman on Jan 1, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

So the Knicks!

How bout Landry’s 21 points on 10-16 shooting!

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by WSD on Jan 1, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that is something

you can believe in.

I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.

by kywineman on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

actually there is a specialty science for religion

Also tons of independents in the field as well. Just google “shroud of turin” and you’ll see what I mean.

Religion doesn’t need to be proved, it just is.
God however…which is what I think you’re hinting at, whole different story.

All religion is, is an organized worship of a higher being or spirit through customs and rites. Those who practice religion already believe God exists with or without scientific facts or evidence so the introduction of it would do nothing more to strengthen existing beliefs or sway a few who didn’t believe previously.

Those who believe in science believe in facts, so if God were proven a scientific fact they’d believe in God.

Those who believe in God believe God is everything so in effect everything is God…including science. Thus, they can coexist.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 2, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm all out of smoke now, so that'll have to suffice on my end

altho there needs to be another place where we can talk about this kinda stuff.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 2, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Rumsfeld

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Melo didn't do much and didn't force the issue???

What drugs are you on? How do you watch the game, see something, and then deny that it happened?

Melo was the main catalyst for almost everything. How do you think those guys found themselves wide open? It was Melo attacking the defense, drawing attention, and kicking it the open man. Subsequent ball movement (which has been absent in the game prior) didn’t allow the defense to reset and guys were knocking down shots for a change.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

It’s hilarious how incredibly personally offended and indignant you get whenever Melo isn’t credited with being the bright sparkly star around which all other lesser beings orbit, he who personally willed his team to victory by virtue of his splendiferous fantasticicity.

Knicks as a team carved up a terrible defense with 26 assists to only 12 turnovers. Contrary to whatever game you were watching Melo’s main contribution was scoring efficiently within the flow of a team offense and without stopping the ball. Dude played fine and nobody is insulting him so chill the fuck out.

by flossy on Jan 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 1, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You might not like it, but Melo IS the bright sparkling star around which lesser beings orbit.

He’s the guy that the offense runs through, he’s the one that straps the team on his back, and he’s the one whose presence creates opportunities for others.

There’s a small but loud contingent of folks up in here that want to portray him as some selfish, ball-stopping, chucker. But that hasn’t at all been the case so far this year. He’s been setting the table really well so far, starting his moves quickly and getting others open looks. He’s been making a concerted effort to get into the lane and to the line. He’s been rebounding and giving effort on defense.

It would be nice to come on here and enjoy his play with other Knick fans instead reading nonsensical comments that marginalize his efforts.

No, he wasn’t just kinda there last night, floating around and not getting in the way. That depiction is totally false. He put his stamp on that motha. The other guys around him played competently for a change and it led to a route.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Melo was the glue in the 2nd and 3rd quarters

Without his contributions, the game could’ve gotten away from us in between. What made this a good game tho, is that it was a team effort with different guys having runs at different parts of the game. Melo was the only guy to get to the line til the 3rd quarter. When we got tired andthe shots weren’t falling, ball wasn’t moving, those foul shots were key. He did a little bit of everything, kept the game distant enuff til Chandler and TD took over, and enjoyed prime minutes of the 4th quarter off, well deservedly. Jorts deserved his spot next to him.

by screamedia on Jan 1, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

My observation……

Since Melo wasnt in chuck mode, he saw less double teams. This my friends, is important. He was single covered all night, and because of that he got to choose what he wanted to do. Luckily, he seemed to do whatever was best mostly. Sometimes he shot, sometimes he drew fouls, sometimes he just gave the ball to TD and let him run the offense, whatever was clever. What I liked is he didnt feel like he had to do everything since Amare was out. In short, he was a TEAM PLAYER. If Melo buys in to the TEAM concept, we are dangerous. Period. He was setting picks, trusting teammates, rebounding, playing defense, talking in team huddles, he did what we should want our star players to do. And he still put up like 23 I think. Good game for Melo. But no, he didnt make everything happen. We shouldnt want or ask him to. That’s what Denver did.

The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.

by JerzeeBalla on Jan 1, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, nobody has said anything other than that he had a nice game and scored without dominating the ball

Your panties just get twisted if people don’t cup his balls tenderly enough. Get a grip.

by flossy on Jan 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

or rather

loosen your grip

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

now now

can’t we all just get along?

by bmanley620 on Jan 1, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

a long what?

pause

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

to me it is a privilege to watch him play. he has always been one of my favorite players in the league. if we win a championship within the next five years, it will be because of him.

honesty, he is not appreciated enough around the league because he never got the lebron, durant golden boy treatment by ESPN (it is not just melo though . . . dirk, for example, has never gotten the appropriate amount of respect). so i kind of wish knicks fans at least would rally around him.

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Jan 1, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

my bad

but like i said, i wish i could delete that stupid little essay.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That's really just not true.

During the Knicks’ good stretches last night, Melo played decoy on several possessions as the other 4 guys worked it around. Melo driving and kicking was not at all a big part of the game.

by Joamiq on Jan 1, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

Melo did fine, particularly with bailing the team out a few times when the offense was starting to stall. But he was not the main catalyst last night. Which is fine! That’s going to happen a few times over the course of a season.

by Joamiq on Jan 1, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

thats actually the best way to use melo!

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

trade Amar'e

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 1, 2012 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

bless your heart!

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

w/ D'antoni

This is an iso team vs run and gun…..

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Jan 1, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

That inspired me

to put on the Knicks puffy slippers I got for Christmas.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 1, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Got them on

But since I played basketball for the first time in years Friday and then football for the first time in years Saturday, it was not easy!

If I can get these slippers on, maybe the Knicks can learn to sync offensively on a consistent basis.

2012!!!!! Knicks slippers for all!!!!!

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 1, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I know the very ones you're talking about!

My wife got them for me last Christmas. Possibly the best present I’ve ever gotten. Whenever I answer the door in them everybody, even the gas man is like, “Those are so awesome.”

KNICKS SLIPPERS!

Thanks for making us a contender, Donnie.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

you lucky bastards

those look amazingly comfortable and cool! I need to get some folks who love and care about me enough to get such thoughtful gifts. Do they have any of that on Amazon yet?

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 1, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny how

there is no Fields love from this game…

But definitely a lot of complaining about him in the past others…

Its like Knicks’ fans want a new favorite every different year, this time its JORTS.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Jan 1, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

I thought he was starting to get it together in the Lakers game.

You can’t play this game afraid to mess up. Sometimes the process of getting oneself into the flow includes a few boneheaded maneuvers.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 1, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

More like

P&T fans, not Knicks fans. But Landry played like we need him to in that game. He played as if he belonged, but he is inconsistent. He cant be scared to fuck up out there, hell all of our players do dumb shit. I think he is too hard on himself. TD as well.

The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.

by JerzeeBalla on Jan 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

fields killed it

but he made his numbers look a little better in garbage time too.

he was just so steady yesterday, and thats precisely the landry we all creamed our junderwear for.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Please Landry Lover

L.Fields is a solid backup talent to Carmelo Anthony at the three.
The guy cannot dribble and he cannot reate his own shot off the dribble along with being a solid shooter.
I ask you don’t you think that the shooting guard should be a great shooter and create his own shot and be able to handle the ball?
Star B.Walker at the two and when I.Shumpert comes back oput him in there at the two asap.
Stingy d how are your Timberwolves doing?

by Dziedzic on Jan 1, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

Maybe we can flip Landry for L. Hughes? I hear he can “reate his own shot off the dribble.”

Thanks for making us a contender, Donnie.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 1, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

you are a racist and a scumbag

may your new year be filled with turmoil.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

whoops

wrong button

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Double Dribble

Stingy d if you change your tone towards me. You may be a Knick fan in the near immediate future instead of a Timberwolves fan.

B.Walker should start at the two for now until I.Shumpert comes back.

Happy New Year Baby!

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Every time I see your name I think of Sleestak. You kinda look like them too.

The more I see you post, I realize you must live in the Land Of The Lost as well. While can sometimes agree with you on Landry, you reasoning and replacement are complletely Science Fiction. Bill Walker is too wreckless and unfocused to be a starter yet. While he is active and intense, he is sloppy and boneheaded at critical stretches. Most of his quality play came after the game ceased to be contended. And while a good portion of Landry’s were as well, he contributed a quietly and effectively throughout. Not true for Bully who was turning the ball over or committing dumb fouls. He had good moments, and he can score, but he’s gotta learn to not cost the team points and momentum as well. The only guy I’d set in Landry’s place is Shumpert. But right now he is better served as a 2nd teamer bridging 1st and 2nd team as needed. D.ziedzic, how are your Nots doing?

by screamedia on Jan 1, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

OUCH!

They need to trade D.Williams asap. The guy does not want to be here.
He is the best PG. But when somebody does not fit in you must trade his ass for talent.
D.Williams for D.Cousins/T.Evans?

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Dizzy - you watched our Sac game, right? Do you really want Cousins

with that attitude and lack of commitment? I think Sac has that problem with Evans in that he don’t fit and they should trade his ass. It’s just a one game sample but they looked decent without him on the floor and letting Thornton and Evans go off (against New Orleans).

by screamedia on Jan 2, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

Given the makeup of this team, we’re better off with a role player at the 2 than a guy who can create his own shot. TD can create his own shot, but he’s much better suited to a bench role. Shump would also be fine at the 2, but I think it’s pretty irrelevant whether he or Fields starts, since they should both be playing healthy minutes.

by Joamiq on Jan 1, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I completely agree

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by Russ on Jan 1, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong

Need a two guard whom can help out with bringing the ball up for T.Douglas. Having C.Anthony bringing the ball up is not a smart way for him to be a beast down low when needed.
T.Douglas needs a two guard whm can help out bringing the ball up. This is key towards success.

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

"Need a two guard whom can help out with bringing the ball up for T.Douglas."

Uh, so basically, you’re saying we need a point guard. Not a two guard. Since TD himself is not at all a PG. Given TD’s limitations, he’s much better suited to coming off the bench.

by Joamiq on Jan 2, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nooooooooo

Saying that we need to put Walker at the two for now and then Shumpert when he is back from injury.

Just making solutions based on what we have now and not we can go out and get.
Did you see our recorrd already?

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Walker is your solution to help bring the ball up??

Lord help us if we’re relying on him for that. Do you actually watch this team?

At the moment, with the injuries to Davis and Shumpert, there is no real solution. Walker is not capable of being a primary ballhandler. When everyone is healthy, TD will move to the bench to be the scoring 2 guard with the second unit. At that point, he’ll be playing with Bibby and Shumpert and won’t be relied on as much for playmaking duties. Shumpert may move into the starting lineup for Fields at some point, but as I said before I think it’s irrelevant, as both will be playing 20-25 minutes per game and will fill similar roles. Shumpert may well end up being the better player, but Fields may be the more appropriate role player to fill out the starting lineup. A starting lineup featuring Davis, Melo, and Amare will need a wing player who is comfortable without having the ball in his hands very much. Fields looks like a better fit for that role than Shumpert. But Shumpert I’m sure would do fine as well.

by Joamiq on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope your next colonoscopy turns disastrously wrong

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 1, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dziedzic...oh Dziedzic.

Reggie Miller is a Hall of Fame shooting guard who could not “reate” his own shot (off the dribble)at all, mainly scoring due to his high release point or off screens or catch and shoot opportunities. His ball handling was mediocre at best. But what do I know? Maybe Indiana should have hired you as coach to bench one of the best shooting guards to play the game and they would have easily had championship glory!!!

Aside from that, all anyone is saying is that Fields played well last game…Oops! You must not have read that properly. Maybe you should go back to rooting for your Sacramento Kings. How are they doing btw?

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 1, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Create Forgot the C

Your correct however, they had PG’s whom can handle the ball. I am just saying we need a two guard to help T.Douglas bringing the ball up because he is not a ntural PG.

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

that's funny you're correcting my grammar considering...but anyway,

You’re right Toney is not a natural point, but you’re solution is not the only solution maybe not even the best solution. It is an idea however. I will not say Walker is not without his merits, I actually like him as a player but I honestly can’t say his ball handling is a great deal better than fields. I haven’t saw enough of it.

I do know Melo is a much better handler than both Fields or Walker so the point forward thing seems to be the best option in terms of easing pressure on Toney in my opinion.

Not that there aren’t other ways to go about it, but there is no such thing a guarantee no matter which option you choose.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 2, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Your Right

My idea of Walker now and Shumpert when he comes back at the two is silly.
Can I ask you onen question.
Are we winning with this sad lineup?
Say NO!
Now Yeah at Me!
Cause I am right on this one.

by Dziedzic on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, this game was all about Jorts

Landry was the Landryiest we’ve seen all year, but it’s fair to be cautious. We all love him and want him to do his best. I especially like how aggressive he was in this game.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ps: Howard Beck on twitter sez

"Here’s your New Year’s present, Knicks fans: Iman Shumpert said he is ahead of schedule and "very optimistic" about return in 1-2 weeks"

Wooooooooo

by flossy on Jan 1, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Great News!

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Jan 1, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

It was nice to see Toney getting his point guard on a little bit last night.

Kept his dribble alive, dropped a few dimes… He looked downright competent for most of that one.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 11:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think the Lynch pin for Toney is having Chandler on the floor who he definitely had a good rapport with last night

His effective minutes seemed to coincide with Tyson being on the floor at the same time. After the 1st 6 minutes and until the 3rd quarter when Tyson came back in, TD was pretty horrrendous with possibly no assists and 0 for 9 shooting. But when he and Chandler were on the floor, they were clicking quite nicely. TD needs more touch on passes, specially on the oops, but it was promising.

by screamedia on Jan 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Its almost like

Chandler has adopted TD. They had this big bro/lil bro thing going on all game, and it seemed to calm TD down to me. Its like Chandler got sick of all the TD hate, and made it his mission to help him improve. The more they work that PnR, the more confidence TD will get. Then maybe he’ll be able to run it with Amare as well.

The Triple Felt Goose movement shall live as long as I am around.

by JerzeeBalla on Jan 1, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what made the difference was that he hit some shots

I feel like it gave him confidence.

I think every game should start with TD taking 2 threes. This way we’ll know which Toney we’re getting.

He was good, but let’s not start sucking each other’s cocks just yet, he still dribbled away from the wide open man too often, his passes still weren’t crisp or placed exactly right. But props for much improvement. He did good enough. He was serviceable.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

But that's the point. TD's points and overall good play coincided with the time Chandler was on the floor

What’s the sucking cock shit? Or is that a blanket statement to majority of posters? You’re responded to my post but saying basically what I said, so I can’t tell if you’re trying to tell me something or just posting.

by screamedia on Jan 1, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm never in favor of firing coaches in mid season

and I’m never in favor of firing d’antoni, i think he’s a really good coach and it sucks we have a shortened season for him to prove he can get this team to the pinnacle so i hope he at least gets another year (full season) with this squad

by blackhova on Jan 1, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

same

the team as presently constructed is pretty nice. give this squad a single season of continuity. then make small additions and/or subtractions in the off season and see how things look. if you think it can’t get better with d’antoni, fine. but really he deserves an actual opportunity to, and there hasn’t been one.

i’ll beat the drum with all the goofballs and lunatics if d’antoni royally fucks up the squad. but he hasn’t and the players seem to have full confidence in his coaching, which should never ever be overlooked.

look at the kings, tons of young exciting talent, and stretches with no effort last night. and it seems like they can’t hear westphal. whereas d’antoni was obviously tuned IN rather than out, and we get a wire-to-wire victory. almost 5 minutes of garbage time. anyway, i’ll shut up.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, this game doesn't change the fact that I'm still not pleased with him.

But that’s been my opinion for a while (years) if you check my previous comments and fanposts. Also, while D’Antoni displeases me for a lot of reasons, I haven’t ever said fire him. I really want to see him make some changes and adjustments in critical areas, and I think I reserve that right to be dissatisfied in certain areas.

I don’t know why we have to be all the way to one side of the spectrum or the other on this website. Either you have herald D’Antoni as a revolutionary genius, or you have to be screaming “Fire the idiot!”

Oh well.

Thanks for making us a contender, Donnie.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 1, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone's due opinions and for me I'd exclude you from the kneejerkers that can really kill a thread

Personally I prefer some continuity for once so I’m on the hoping he succeeds train

by screamedia on Jan 1, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's cool

I’m pretty neutral on him as a coach but I’m cool with him as long as I can see gradual improvements based on the talent around him. I’m comfortable saying he’s been doing a good job given the situation he is in but I dunno about him being a “genius”.

The thing that eats my goat is when guys come on here posting and comment not by the way the games are being played but by how they feel about the individual players and their perceptions of them.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 1, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

novak is a for real, for real shooter

Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate

by knickswin on Jan 1, 2012 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

Watching the MSG recap right now

So nice to see the team look halfway decent. I really thought they’d blow this game.

And I’ll be damned if Marcus Thornton’s face isn’t the definition of pouty

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by WSD on Jan 1, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

haslem-esque

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Great to get a win! Some thoughts on the game:

-JORTS!!! He played his heart out and had a great game. I was impressed by his shooting which we saw in the pre-season and his defense. He got a little tired from playing so much, but that should be expected. We really got a steal here. Since MSG was echoing for the first part of the game I watched the Sac broadcast (until like midway through the 2nd quarter) and the announcers made a really good comparison IMO, they compared Jorts to Brad Miller. I think it’s great and not just because they’re both white (I hate how all white guys are compared to white players and black players to other black players).
-Landry had his landriest game of the season. I know a lot of his points came in garbage time, but it should be great for his confidence for the rest of the season. He hit open shots and had some nice cuts.
-Douglas improved but I still don’t see him as a starting PG. He made shots early and in garbage time, but he still seemed to hesitate throughout the game. His assist #s are nice but I really can’t see him as a PG.
-Melo took over in stretches which kept the team ahead. There were a few times where the offense stalled (just jacking up threes) and he said, “okay give me the ball.” He continues to get to the line at an amazing rate and had stretches of great point forward play (2nd game with 5 assists). I still hate how that whenever he gets the ball you see almost everyone just stop moving. He’s proven he’ll pass to the open guy but everyone just gets stuck watching.
-Tyson was beasting when he was actually in the game. At first I thought, “oh crap this looks like the Charlotte Tyson that we saw the 2nd game” but then he played amazingly in the 2nd half. I think he really benefited from having Jorts stretch the floor and getting some of Amar’e’s touches. His FT shooting continues to be amazing. He had some nice finishes around the rim. He seems to really have great timing on the pick and roll. Bison made some nice plays with Douglas and Melo. Truly awesome to watch. It’s amazing because no one ever expected us to get more than 12 pts from him but he’s proven he could do more. And imagine him with an actual PG.
-Billy Walker had an amazing game. Very active out there. Did everything from passing, rebounding, defending and scoring.
-Jerome Jordan impressed me too. I know he didn’t play much or have a good game but you could see the potential. He’s incredibly quick for such a big man and has extremely long arms. He hustled a lot last night too, but he also fouled a lot.
-Jeremy Lin looked absolutely horrible. Like I don’t think he could’ve done worse in his little playing time.
-The Kings have so much talent but play with zero fundamentals. Their bigs don’t box out and their guards just shoot. They need a good coach and/or a good PG or else they’ll be a lotto team for a while.

by hvino on Jan 1, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

something will give with the kings

the general sorta ‘fuck it’ attitude will spur change. be it via trade or firing westphal or both.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerome Jordan played very well aside from the fouls

3 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block in his first 6 minutes, plus hustling for rebounds and loose balls. Just excellent.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 1, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

for serious

smart plays, gotta figure out the speed of the nba game. once he does, we might got something.

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by stingy d on Jan 1, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice game Jorts! Time to get Amare off the bench...

not… lol
although I wish Amare was more of a double double threat
This at the very least solidifies Amare’s backup and the second team’s rebounding machine.

JPP, ELI,
sipping drinks in Hawaii

by 27Tango on Jan 2, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

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