Game Thread: Knicks vs. Magic- 1/16/12
by Seth on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST
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Good day, friends! On this Martin Luther King Day, the Knicks' annual matinee will bring the Orlando Magic to the Garden for a 1 PM tip-off. The big news at the moment is that Carmelo Anthony-- he of the sprained wrist and ankle-- will return to the starting lineup after missing just one game. Hopefully, he can be effective and not cause too much stress to his sore parts.
Meanwhile, this feels like the game in Dwight Howard's entire career in which the Knicks will have somebody reasonably tall and capable to match up with the big dude. It'll be interesting to see how Tyson Chandler handles Howard, whether or not the Knicks double, and, if they do, if they're diligent enough to contest folks out on the perimeter. (One can envision Ryan Anderson absolutely throttling these Knicks).
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great idear
egg blower. is the chick’s name dejuan?
lets fire the coach and trade the rotation players today.
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I'd say we should be able to beat the Magic and their video game offensive gameplan
But I’m not sure who can beat at this point.
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I second this..
After losing the same way every time, you start forgetting how you won the rest.
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Since I don't know if bluecheese is going to be around
Most Likely To Have a Career Game Tracker
Tonight’s contestants are Jameer Nelson and Ryan Anderson!
Jameer Nelson has been having an bad season, so tonight he will definitely light up the Knicks backcourt for 25 points. Expect at least 3 three-pointers and 8 assists.
Next we have Ryan Anderson. Anderson is having the best season of his career and more importantly is a stretch-4 being guarded by Amare. At least 20 points.
Interesting fact: Jameer Nelson’s name is actually spelled with 3 "e"s but he changed it at an early age so he wouldn’t be mocked for having the name “Jameer Neeelson”
I want to see both JJ's
using up all their fouls on Howard, make him go to the line and turn 2 easy points for him into just one
Maybe one more take would have been good
for that Amar’e clip on MLK jr. Morning P&T.
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Am I crazy or
does Amar’e sound less intelligent trying to speak intelligently?
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
Here's to Landry
choosing MLK Day to rediscover his Landriness, and stuffing copious buckets on Dwight’s shitty head.
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!!!!
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the fuck
Also the fuck Stat
by SweatbandProliferation on Jan 16, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
if anyone has a stream link
please email it to me at mackaru418@aol.com
haha. The reaction of Tyson seeing Amar'e on Dwight.
“fuck!”
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struggle bus
bright side: 0% FGP
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Tyson's been rolling beautifully off of a lot of picks
Thank you Shumpy, for noticing.
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I have gone through 4 different streams
Fuck Time Warner Cable
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 16, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions
think i found one now
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Is Landry's floater
going to be the new Gervin Finger Roll?
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Amare is playing what I like to call
“butthole ball”
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I’ll be replacing Clyde soon.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Stoudemire is just so off
more of a black hole than Melo jeez
by SweatbandProliferation on Jan 16, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Amare is not an iso guy.
Someone knows this right?
Amar'e doesn't
Apparently no one is telling him or he’s not listening
Pleeeease
just TRY to run a pick and roll. Just try and see what happens. Better than dumping it to him making himself try to figure it out.
Run with Tyson!
He’s rolling open to the basket on repeat!
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet, Shumpert guarding their PF int he paint
Let’s not have that happen again as much as I dig Shumpert…yea.
And yes I'm realizing my feed is like 20 seconds behind
Try to find a new one now haha
Our offense looked so good
for like 6 points.
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Yea well
Landry scored 4 of them so Melo and Amar’e got pissed or something?
true this.
the most frustrating thing is how capable Melo and even Amar’e have shown themselves to be as passers.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
We should have a coach trade
I’d take a Van Gundy. Liked the other one.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
shhh.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
WOW.
Tyson is going for that fucking hoop!
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Jorts is my hero
i look at him and think if he can be a professional athlete, then there is hope for us all!
Plus he’s pretty damn good
Jorts looks more like he's 6'8"
I like the fact that he never shot from the outside in college and worked hard all offseason to add that dimension to his game.
I hate the 2nd one
After you hit one, that’s in your defender’s head, so why not try to take it to the hole?
i wonder
if knicks guards get to the line less than the rest of the league…??
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by stingy d on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
they weren't really looking for him
seemed like they were trying to establish some spacing.
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its a bad sign
that we are not getting to their shooters. eventually they will go to howard. and its gonna be even more wide open.
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that won't last.
he’s bound to cough it up if he keeps dribbling.
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hahaha
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Patrick Ewing Baby!
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST reply actions
Bring some hair back Pat
I miss you every day.
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Big Baby
has always looked like a black O’Doyle to me. Like the O’Doyle Rules type.
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I'm so impressed that Jorts
even tried that. And almost finished
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
It was an impressive move
He used to have no outside shot at all, now it seems like he can get to the basket once in a while if the shot isn’t there. Crazy progression over where he was a year ago.
Veryyy pleasantly surprised
Jorts is also playing better than Amar’e
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Q-Rich
I don’t miss you one fucking bit.
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Hughes is on the Magic too?
this team is…good?
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
toney keeping his dribble alive
first time all year.
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been worse.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Whats going on with Amare
His head seems totally not in it
I don't know
He has so much potential, unlimited potential
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus
Fields, Bibby, Douglas, Jeffries and Jorts? That’s the best five we can put out on the court?
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 16, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Landry'll handle this.
don’t sweat it.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Harrelson
with the fucking PLAY ACTION. I followed the pass, almost missed the layup.
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Compared to the Knicks bench players
He looks like Michael Jordan
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 16, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
This sitting people with fouls shit is killing me. We don’t want Amare to foul and be on the bench… so we put him on the bench. Genius.
This group's offensive approach has actually been good
Screen and move, work the ball around, reverse it… they’re just not good enough to really capitalize off of it
When our offense stinks like this
I hear a gong sound in my head every time the ball bounces off the rim.
hahahaha, I’m enjoying this thought.
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by PrivateRadio on Jan 16, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
this shit with stat
is just not gonna last. hopefully baron can open it up for the guy, because he can be devastating.
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yea but thats not it even
he’s aiming his shot, he’s always in foul trouble. his tunnel vision is worse than ever. he needs a point guard so badly its frigthening.
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Clyde:
Martin Luther King influenced the way I dress.
I think my steam is about :30 behind
I’m all WDTDD???
by flossy on Jan 16, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bibby defends after the whistle too
But it looks cute cause he doesn’t jump high and can barely reach for the block
A void? I see no void!
yeah
those #1 songs that end careers happen all the time.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
2 man game
Fields-Jeffries. The league will be devastated.
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gotta give jefferies his due...
he’s a disruptive mofo out there on D.
Melo's been better in almost everyway this year
but he sure has bricked a lot of open looks.
wish someone would give him direct orders to not give it to melo...
when he’s posting up 20 ft. out.
by bucketsncents on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he's thinking and applying what he's learning...
looking for the balance between aggro and facilitator.
by bucketsncents on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going nuts for Landry Fields in this game.
6 pts, 4 boards, 2 assists and a steal.
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Shump
is playing smarter ball, and it’s helping.
granted I didn’t see the Thunder game. did he do it there too? didn’t seem to help us, if so.
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hear that Dwight?
Jeffries will KNOCK YOU OUT
jeffries with a big beard
is so much more respectable. i’m happy to see him out there! he’s a menace on defense.
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that comment reminds me
of when Amar’e grew his facial hair “to become a more intimidating defender.” instead of, you know, playing better defense.
Breen absolutely loving
Jeffries serving up that big STFU.
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I don't understand
how a guy like Howard who seems like such a good guy off the court can continually act like such a baby on it.
Melo, honey
I know you drew a foul there. But you were surrounded by 4 guys. Just pass it out!
regular season mvp and finals mvp
all star mvp
dpoy
1st team at pg sg sf pf center
and second and third team
Delicious water!
Need to recover from celebrating the Giants.
im at work
my job never closes….only for thanksgiving christmas day and new years day. those are literally the only holidays off i have…so unamerican.
by Slappinfaces on Jan 16, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
curry chicken, red beans and rice and maduros
This has been a game of streaks. Let’s win it…
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Carmelo Anthony is a basketball player
He makes this team
by DonMoosavi on Jan 16, 2012 2:18 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
it is horrible . . .
he is the only player capable of playing basketball on this team. it’s utter garbage. i hate this roster. we need to trade amare for someone capable of scoring when not being spoon fed by a point guard
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oh yeah, you're right
32 year old baron davis, his bad back, and busted knees are going to save everything!!! i’ll believe that when i see it . . .
this goes beyond us not having a point guard right now. we shouldn’t be paying a player $20 million/year who brings nothing to the table other than finishing. nothing. not defense. not creating for others. not intangibles or smart play. nothing.
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I give up, I guess we should trade a 2nd team All-NBA player for .50 on the dollar
to solidify our place as a low-seed, first round out w/ no PG
yep
every time amare forces a bad shot we should just remind ourselves he was 2nd team all nba last year so that makes it okay. actually, he was first team all nba in 2007, so that can excuse his porous defense and turnovers too.
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LOL
Our entire offense is forcing bad shots. BECAUSE WE NEED A PG
there are two other players getting paid a considerable nba salary to do anything on the court
and they are bringing much, much more to the table this season than stoudemire. don’t compare amare to landry fields and bill walker.
a GOOD big man doesn’t need a point guard. a GOOD big man has a post game and create for himself.
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Because Amar'e is actually
the best PnR big man in the game. Though you wouldn’t know it when our offense is nothing but ISOs for Melo
i bet dwight and blake griffin would be just as good as amare at finishing pick and rolls as amare
if they had d’antoni for a coach. a lot of athletic big men can do what he does. amare is really not very skilled.
listen, i am not happy with our FO for assembling this roster at all. you don’t put amare out there with toney douglas as his pg. but this goes beyond our situation right now. i do not like him as a player. he is dumb. he lacks hunger and the need to improve. he does not care about helping his teammates score. trade him.
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no, i did not describe any of the players i respect
kobe doesn’t fit that description. rose doesn’t fit that description. chris paul doesn’t fit that description. dirk doesn’t fit that description. durant doesn’t fit that description. carmelo doesn’t fit that description. lebron doesn’t fit that description. lamarcus aldridge, kevin love, the list goes on.
amare should have gone to college. amare does not appreciate basketball or its history. amare needs to watch some tapes of bill russell and tim duncan and learn what it means to be a great teammate.
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I wasn't trying to make a point, I was actually confused
I didn’t know whether you were talking about Amare or Douglas.
I’ll jump in now though: You’re making a lot of assumptions about Amare. Maybe he’s just a limited player (he is).
amare is a limited player
he is not a bad guy, but he is not a student of the game nor is he a guy who grew up with basketball in his blood. he is a guy who was 6’10 as a 14-year-old and was at one point one of the biggest physical freaks on the planet. i want guys like duncan who are intelligent students of the game or guys like carmelo and baron who’ve identified with the game since they were young children.
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Get it through your head
He. Will. Not. Be. Traded. We will never get nearly enough value back from him because of his contract. Do you understand that? No other NBA team wants to be paying Amar’e $23 mil in 2015.
Amar’e is here. To stay. For the rest of his contract. So get fucking used to it. He is the best PnR finisher in the game (yes, better than Dwight Howard, and better than Griffin so far—and if those are the two guys you’re comparing him to, you know he’s fucking good).
This team is fucked if it doesn’t get a real PG. So instead of bitching and moaning and wishing for Andrea Barnani (which, LOL), you best get to hopin that the Knicks can bring in a half-competent PG and retool their offense around Amar’e so that he can be free to be the 26ppg/9rpg/3apg beast he was last year.
i highly doubt this front office has the balls to trade him
for anyone other than dwight howard (and that’s a lonnnngggg shootttttt). so yeah, this is me bitching. but i don’t know why you’re defending amare. i get it, the front office screwed up. this carmelo-amare pairing is BAD. they do not fit. the three possible solutions are 1.) trading amare 2.) amare improving his back to the basket game and defense and 3.) us getting a point guard who will (hopefully) make him relevant again
i am in favor of 1. i don’t like paying $20 million/year for a player with his skill set next to carmelo. i think it’s nonsense to pay two player who can hardly exist on the court at the same time $40 million/year. you think bargnani is a bum. i think he and carmelo are an excellent fit and he, tyson chandler, and carmelo would be an excellent front court with great spacing and fit. you want to go with plan 3. it’s legitimate. it’s better than what we have now.
right now, bargnani is looking like the superior player btw.
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You *can't* trade Amar'e
because you don’t get any value back. Nobody is trading Dwight Howard for Amar’e. Nobody is giving expiring contracts. The only players we’d get back are overpaid mediocrities like Andrea Bargani. If you think that loser is worth $12mil on a contending team this whole conversation is hopeless.
It’s a moot point though, because Amar’e or no Amar’e the Knicks will be garbage until they get a true, above-average PG. So you’d better hope that happens soon, because it will lift not only Amar’e’s game but the entire team’s.
luis scola or andrea bargnani would be value enough for me
you are dismissing these guys like they’re bums. in some ways they are better than amare. they have back to the basket games. scola also brings intangibles and intelligence. bargnani is a puss, but like i said, his game is perfect next to tyson and carmelo. the only power forward who would fit better is dirk.
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They are bums
Bargnani and Scola play worse defense than Amar’e and we don’t even play a post-up offense. Neither of them are half as dominant offensively, and by the way, both of them play with point guards so it’s a pointless (ha, get it??) comparison.
Also, if you think Bargs has a back-to-the-basket game I think all this confusion stems from you never having seen him play.
he DOES have a back to the basket game
omg, what are you talking about? yes, they play with point guards. no, they do not feed off their point guards the way amare does. they are not pick and roll finishers!
i like mike d’antoni, but going forward he is probably not a good fit for this team. rather have a coach who believes in post based play if carmelo is our center piece. mike should go coach the clippers. he would be a big upgrade over del african american and a perfect fit.
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Bargani, back to the basket?
Dude is poor man’s Ryan Anderson who makes 3x as much. Talk about trash.
Playing with a good point-guard doesn’t necessarily equal getting spoon fed dunks, it means playing within an actual offense, with good spacing, and not just standing around watching the other ball-hog on your team pound the air out of the pill
actually, i have not watched enough ryan anderson to comment on that
my perception of him is he’s kind of like kevin love, but i haven’t watched enough of him this season to have a real opinion.
but bargnani does not only shoot threes. he is perhaps the most fluid moving big man in the game. very quick first step (not as quick as amare’s though). he has a good face up game and something of a back to the basket game.
anderson would also be a pretty decent fit next to melo though . . .
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One of the most fluid moving big men in the game??
GTFO with that shit, he’s a 7’ tall 3 point chucker who gets 5rebs per game and plays no defense whatsoever. Next!
whatever
i am glad you think this way. this gives me hope that we could pull off a trade like this if people regard amare so highly and players like scola and bargnani so lowly
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I guess I was wrong, we could trade Amar'e
Toronto would be thrilled to unload Bargnani for Stat, luckily not even James Dolan is that stupid
You underestimate James Dolan
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trading amare for bargnani would be the smartest thing dolan has done in years
it would show that he is committed to building a team with chemistry that fits instead of loading up on stars
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The stream I'm watching
had a network commercial with boobs on it. I assume the FCC will now break down my door.
Totally
I think it’s an Italian station.
NSFW
that couldve easily been bad if someone was looking over my shoulder there for that
by Slappinfaces on Jan 16, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, it's funny that watching 2.5 hours of basketball at work is okay
but nipples, oh no
Don't kid yourselves
Jeffries is not good and D’Antoni’s obliviousness to this is a major reason I have no respect for him.
Also, it’s a good thing the Knicks have a guy who can contain Dwight. It’s unfortunate the only reason they’re winning is Carmelo keeps getting to the line.
i mean...
you would probably criticize d’antoni for not being a good defensive coach, but you think you should also criticize him for playing jeffries who works tirelessly on defense, and always boxes someone out every time down the floor, and prevents the opposing team from starting breaks. i mean…. of course jared is a crisis on offense, but only as a shooter/scorer- nad he doesn’t try to do that.
gotta leave the nad typo. nads to you.
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i would rather have MANY players other than amare right now
he is TRASH
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we could trade him
i’m almost to the point where a salary dump would be worth it. amare for kg?
he is just crap without a point guard. NO back to the basket game whatsoever. plus he brings nothing else to the table
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oh god almighty
it’d be hard for me to be a knicks fan with kg on our team…….
let’s wait for the BDid to get back before we have these talks
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
kg is really not a bad guy
he is just an intense douchebag on the court. he is a great teammate and supposedly a very nice guy off the court. i’ve read that really he is the nicest of any of boston’s “big three” and rondo. personally, i think his career is overrated, but he is still a great player. prime kevin garnett and carmelo would have been an excellent pairing.
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i mean
we’re hiring him to play/be on the court. he’s a nice guy, that’s fine, but i care about his basketball
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
we're hiring him to be kevin garnett for a few months then retire and give us some salary flexibility next summer
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idk about that
it’s been real physical
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
i hate to admit it,
but I told a friend a few months ago we should’ve kept our amnesty as insurance for amar’e’s contract. It was more for his knees then.
That said, I think we should hold onto him. I believe he’ll find his way, and we could seriously regret getting rid of him
i won't
MUCH rather have luis scola, pau gasol, or andrea bargnani. even david lee would be better.
on the plus side, i think his contract is only uninsured for knee and eye injuries, and they’ve been fine . . .
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why i only want white guys is beyond me . . .
can’t think of any black power forwards who would fit what i want . . . maybe david west? but he’s not going anywhere.
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ouch
that shot has been too strong for four games
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
how is Extra E doing this year?
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
D'Antoni
and his adoration of the 3 ball sure would.
he's a better fit than amare . .
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yea he is, And he's not a project like Hibbert was
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he's pretty good
Glad he’s on my fantasy team. Definitely didn’t think he’d improve so quickly. I thought he’d be a Brad Miller type.
oh you definitely should
and you should challenge every israeli there to a how-bad-is-amar’e-stoudemire debate.
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They ran the same play on us twice
Both times gross defense
Anyone else kinda upset at the thought that D'Antoni's dream vision of us is probably the Magic?
Formerly known as "GangGrizzle".
jeffires > amare
am i joking? i don’t know.
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jared is also a good team player and defender
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Jeffries has scored
so obviously we’re not gonna lose this game.
Who says i don't like Amare?
I don’t like players who are making 100 mil and playing like a bench player. If Melo was playing like Amare, i’d say Jefferies > Melo.
who fouls Jeffries on a dribble drive?
hahaha seriously
I remember before the season I was saying how Amar'e's devolved
And a bunch of people were saying he’s an MVP-candidate. I still didn’t think he’d be nearly as bad as he’s been.
Jeffries is the MVP
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
SHUMPIN IT WITH D
yes!!!
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
JORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
Great shot, Josh
Now please do not take another 3 for the next couple of minutes, because if you do, it’s probably going to be forced and won’t go in.
I am not a hater.....
I rather amare start but we could use that extra scoring punch….
I still want amare to start and play well
We could use ga and cut lin….. He can run the pnr
so behind this
i want him so bad. great addition
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
amare can't create his own shot as well as harden
i really like harden. he is like manu. they both piss me off with their flopping, but i love their crafty, intelligent games. i honestly think harden might be the best player on the thunder.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
I don't want to trade for harden...
Just want amare to come off the bench and score while giving him starts minute.
he can't do that though
he is not a “spark plug” guy. he can’t create his own shot and he doesn’t have a post game.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
this so far is our best rookie class since forever...
Maybe since D Lee Frye and Nate
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions
Shift-A
Any legit links for the radio broadcast?
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It's written in stone
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written in dirt
dirt strong.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
howard with the longest moving screen in history there
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by ny knickerbocker on Jan 16, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions
melo keeps it
at 69% of all shots taken.
its how he rolls.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
That's like telling Bud Light to stop making dumb commercials
Ain’t gonna happen. Might as well learn to live with it.
Amare has played 10 min and Melo is 7-21 from the field
Surprised were up
I wish every possession
was that Shump to Chandler feed from back in the 1st.
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
This 5 on the floor
is pretty brutal.
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
just got home
seems a bit better than OKC!
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Okay,STAT, stop mean-mugging everyone
you made a midrange jumper, not a vicious dunk
I don't care how many times it ends with JJ taking the open shot
give me that ball movement always.
@FatmansAlright
Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
TD
could have had a sportscenter dish to Jared on that.
@FatmansAlright
Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
Walker plays like I play in gym class
Tough, overly aggressive, defense til I get tired and just lazily foul people.
Amar'e's pissed.
Does this lead to us losing when he starts chucking crap up?
@FatmansAlright
Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
Not if they can't keep him off the foul line
As long as D12 is on the bench he should be attacking the rim
The MSG commercial just said "Lob City East"
Pretty sure P&T started that. We deserve credit.
We should at least get free season tickets for everyone on this game thread
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lob city - east?
why don’t they just say “new york metro lack of identity”
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Shumpert’s gotten the breakaway and BLOWN it.
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
What happened?
And would Darryl Dawkins be proud?
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<3
you’re still the captain to me Amar’e
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
amare is still very athletic
i have been saying this. that dunk against the warriors was similarly jaw dropping. he gets off the floor as quickly as anyone.
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How has Chandler looked against Howard?
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Cage match?
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Pretty much straight up wrasslin'
the refs let ‘em play for a while, then started calling random fouls, but despite 2 questionable ones on Chandler, Howard’s got 5, so we’ve made out OK
+1 on word usage
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Great to hear!
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That's what I'm talking about!
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damn it shump
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d-d-d-d- drose is not playing
i swear to god joakim noah has tried posting up 7 times and has gotten blocked every time
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i believe so
only caught the first half
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I think we're seeing why we never have ball movement in the 4th qaurter
Our other guys can’t hit open shots!
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
mindfeck is quiet
something must be going well
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by stingy d on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
haha classic Clyde
gonna start “nicknacking with the fans.”
Here it goes.
No shots from anyone but Stat or Melo. Not holding my breath.
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
It's not truly bad until they start passing to the peanut vendor
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Amar'e's shot is off, and he's playing differently
Chances are, after he gets the ball he’s going to shoot a jump shot. More of his shots are blocked, jump shots and close shots. In NY, both seasons, he’s dunking about half as often as he did when in Phoenix.
When he gets the ball, he’s far from the basket, he doesn’t have room to make a move, and shoots a difficult shot because he doesn’t know what else to do. In his last season in Phoenix, he played PF most of the time, and nearly 50% of his shots were inside, compared to 35% now.
If he was surrounded by other players who could actually shoot, he’d have more space. If a PG got him the ball in a better position, he’d be able to score better.
The lack of defense, blocks, rebounds, and assists is largely his fault though.
I don't think you're watching this game
He’s gone straight to the basket the last 4 times he’s gotten it
by Joamiq on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OK.
Well, the comment looks oddly out of place right now, because Amare seems to be making a point of going to the hole right now. Hopefully this is a turning of the tide for him.
Turkoglu looks like James Dolan, no wonder he's beating us
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I didn't think JJ Redick could do that.
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Sonic The Hedgehog and Pro Ball. Nothing else.
Despite some of the unwise doubles and slow recoveries off doubles and screens
I still think we’ve generally played good defense today. If we lose, it’ll be because they hit all their open shots. Which sucks, but this for the most part this has not been a bad performance.
Sometimes you just get beat
We didn’t let Howard beat us, that’s a giant plus for us.
I know the 3’s have been pretty open, but when everyone on their team can shoot a 3, it’s hard to guard everyone. If it were us, we would have clunked a few by now. They’ve made an absurd number of 3s.
If they’re gonna hit 17 3s, sometimes you just get beat.
But we haven’t been beat yet. Let’s win this
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
A giant plus?
If we hold the opposing star in check… shouldn’t we win? I know not ALWAYS, but when our star is off or invisible, we’re TOTALLY happy when we win it… so I’d imagine the Magic are thrilled with this win…. which means we shouldn’t feel satisfied with a loss.
Not when the opponent goes 17-35 from 3 point range
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With such open looks that often...
most NBA teams would shoot that well… especially once constructed to do just that as the Magic are. It’s actually refreshing to see a team constructed to balance their star and other key players out. That’s something we’re struggline with severely right now.
So I see the score
But no working stream. How are we playing? How are we looking? Please, somebody give me some info.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
bad wrist?
whatever, I’ll just take 30 shots
he's been passing too
except then Landry airballs it.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
SMITE A DWIGHT!
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is Melo hurt?
Fighting throught the pain gotta love that.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
See.. we lose the same way every time.
No plays.. No plan. Just rotate it around the perimeter and shoot.
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions
that strategy should be blamed squarely on the coaches' shoulders.
i realize d’antoni isn’t going anywhere this season, but after 3 years of listening to excuses and advocating for patience, i think it’s time somebody, ANYBODY, is held accountable for these poor showings both offensively AND defensively.
I know we've heard it so often over the past years...
but the personnel STILL doesn’t fit MDA’s coaching style. I think he’s a good coach… but since we’re most likely stuck with our roster as is (at least the key components to it), I’m worried for him and actually do feel bad for how this has all played out for him.
Tell me one team he has had here in New York that has fit his coaching style (run and gun, 3-ball, etc)?
That we've got what seems to me a long history now of not being able to beat pressure D
And that is on the personnel. Decent shooting thru 3 quarters, fell apart in the 4th. Seems pretty familiar to me. Tried to get in the paint and had offensive fouls and bad shots. Is that Mikey D missing those shots? Nope! We didn’t defend the perimeter and couldn’t score from the perimeter. And well, hey! If they couldn’t hit the 3 we were sure to give them an and 1. These guys need alot of practice and a point guard who can control the O when the going gets tougher which it usually does in the 4th. Orlando seems to be beat us the same way every time. Close thru 3 quarters then apply pressure and pull out the win in the 4th. Last year they could pick and roll us to death in the fourth. This year it didn’t happen so they just sat back and let em fly.
We should get better. But until our shooters hit shots, these types of games are gonna be hard to pull out. I think TD and Iman were 1 for 9 in the fourth while Amar’e and Melo were 4 for 9. Landry did nada. Bully nada. Chandler, nope. Couldn’t even remember him being on the floor on offense in the fourth.
How bad are Douglas and Fields
completely awful players
NO.. stop it.
We have no coaching. Where are our plays? Non existent. It’s the same thing every time. I mean we can’t be the only team in the NBA that faces zone defense are we?
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
We had time to win if we didn't just chuck 3s the last 2 minutes
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I think they saw Orlando hitting them, and figured they could hit them too
Not that I’m excusing it
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Jan 16, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I thought we actually did a decent job trying to find holes in the zone
but no one could hit a shot. Novak should have been inserted the moment they went zone.
I love how
Everybody wants to blame an individual player for being bad at offense when its this team’s defense that is the problem
MDA
does nothing….no changes at all…just lets the player run amuck and watch them squander a lead in the 4th. im over it. he has no command of this team.
You have no idea how he deals with players behind closed doors
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behind closed doors doesn't mean shit if you can't execute the real play.
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Executing plays doesn't happen without the talent to do so
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except they can't shoot
Any of them. I don’t know why that is except they messed with Landry’s mechanics.
thats just it.
we HAVE the talent. thats not an excuse anymore.
by Slappinfaces on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Having talent is one thing...
having a team that meshes well and balances everything is another. Right now at least, our team is a mess of players that don’t complement one another very well (Tyson is probably the only “right” fit).
no i dont
but i do know how he deals with players while the game is being played. And thats totally hands off. we barely run any offensive sets in the 4th.
by Slappinfaces on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I dont know what this team will become this year
But right now we arent very good.
We might have the worst 3-pt shooting team in the league...
That doesn’t really go hand-in-hand with MDA’s offensive scheme.
That'll be it
Psychological evaluations of coaches and what goes on behind closed doors, love it.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
Do you have tonight's winning lottery numbers?
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We have no coaching. Where are our plays? Non existent. It’s the same thing every time. I mean we can’t be the only team in the NBA that faces zone defense are we?
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions
The plays have been fine
Honestly, we moved the ball all day today and got better penetration than we’ve seen in a while. We’re just not hitting shots.
there are no guys cutting to the basket. Everr. It's just rotate around the perimeter and then shoot. That's not a play.. that's pathetic.
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's simply not true.
We got the ball inside a lot today, even in that 4th quarter against the zone. But when the defense collapsed and we kicked it out, no one could hit a shot. Even when we took shots within 10 feet, like from Shump and Toney, they missed.
Sorry for not being clear..
I’m speaking of the last 4 minutes of any given game; I’m just a bit annoyed by our late game scenarios. We did great earlier on.. but we always lose the same way.
by Landry for prez on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone see what Turk just did to Amar'e?
jesus.
@FatmansAlright
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did they foul him on purpose?
Should have just smacked D12.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
I know the knee jerk crowd won't agree
but the Knicks played fairly well today. Orlando hit their shots, we didn’t. That’s really all it came down to.
they played well for 3 quarters.
but we had the lead and squandered it away the second they went to the zone
by Slappinfaces on Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
We had a negligible lead
and the zone killed us because we couldn’t hit shots. We found holes in the zone a few times, but couldn’t convert when they collapsed
I agree
although, the plan with 3 minutes left to just get desperate and shoot 3s was silly
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Somewhat
but those shots are usually there against a zone, and they were today… we just couldn’t hit anything
Yes, but I'm literally talking about the last 2 to 3 minutes of this game.
We came back from a timeout and it was clear the message was to shoot 3s because every shot going up was a 3, even when we had had some ability to get twos. If we had just been patient and went for two, while continuing to work hard on D, we would have given ourselves the best chance to win
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Yeah but we're consistently not hitting shots, depending on Melo even when he's beat up and not playing well
and not doing enough to contest their perimeter shooters.
by SweatbandProliferation on Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I sort of agree
As long as we’re just talking about the first three quarters. We were awful in the 4th.
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks shoot the 3rd most 3s
And are 24th in 3PT%
Melo 9-27
Top five scorer, couldn’t buy himself a three when we needed it most. Sigh.
Formerly known as "GangGrizzle".
I'll attribute that to injuries
He must be pretty banged up, but no reason for him to be taking so many shots if he is.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
i am not thrilled with mike and i think he should be let go after this season for a coach who suits camelo's game more
but this is not all on him . . . this is the roster he’s been given. a very poorly fitted roster with a horrific back court.
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I'm confused by this game,
We’ve played decent D, and have moved the ball well, yet we’ve lost by 9.
when orlando has reddick and anderson shooting like that they are very hard to beat
for any team. nevertheless, i am still not satisfied with this team’s play.
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Orlando is 17-35 from 3 point range today
That’s the game right there.
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Yep.
Granted, they had too many open shots – we were slow to rotate, and we were not quick enough on the doubles – but they still hit the shots.
Orlando is BUILT to do that...
tis what they do since they’ve built it to mesh around Dwight. We knew that coming into this game… make someone other than Howard beat us from anywhere BUT the 3pt line. Easier said than done obviously, but to simply say “they made their shots” doesn’t tell the whole story.
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well that sucked
our O sucks and our D sucks
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We just don't have a floor leader to execute plays and set up shots - good shots. When we get pressured
guys rush their shots, commit offensive turnovers, the usual. Even Felton wasn’t very good at breaking pressure in the 4th, but we had the shooting to bail us out, be it Poop, TD (pre-shoulder injury), Landry, Ray Ray with the floaters (when he wasn’t injured) and occasional 3, Gallo until his shot disappeared and decided it was better to pull the crazy rooster layup and get 2 at the line, Amar’e being found in the right spots for a midrange or and 1….we were still not great and a work in progress, but we had options and could hit those shots.
Landry has to work out that shooting motion and guys need to get confidence in him. TD has had his shot come back over the past couple games but it disappeared in the 4th. They really need to relax and trust each other and have confidence in their shooting. They don’t have it yet and still lack the chemistry to trust eachother. And as mp987987 basically said, legit PG=respectable. Amar’e and Melo can’t do it. They can score but can they get the ball where it needs to be efficient? TD and Bibby and Shump can’t do it (and I don’t expect Shump to get in a few games what took Felton 17 games to figure out give or take).
It’s a long season with and some glints are shining thru, but we got a ways to go and are a PG short of being successful on a consistent basis.
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We weren't terrible
We weren’t even terrible in the 4th
We played decently in the 4th until the very last few minutes when we tried to match them 3 for 3. Which we just couldn’t do.
But we played well. I liked our D. Imagine if we could have converted some of those turnovers we forced.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
imagine if we could have scored more points then orlando
we would have won.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
well when an opponent hits 17 3's it's hard to win
no matter happens
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions
yep they were hot
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We should try and get JJ reddick
I doubt that’’s possible, but we kneed a knock down shooter at the Guard position
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by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 16, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions
Who deserves blame for this loss
1) The Magic 3-pt shooters
They were lights out. What can you do?
2) MDA
with two to three minutes left he called timeout, when we came out of timeout we went from trying to penetrate to shooting 3s. I think MDA saw us struggling to get to the basket and tried to adjust by telling us to go for 3. But if we had simply gone for 2 and kept up the D we would have been way better off.
3) Landry Fields
Dude, what’s wrong with you? I love you, man, but this can’t continue. Offensive fouls? wide open airballs from 20 feet away? That’s not you, man. You can do better. Get your head in the game.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
When Mike called timeout it was 2:49 down 8
just saying…and couldn’t penetrate, the Zone D screwed up whatever mojo they may have had and probably haven’t had the proper practice to break it down (maybe). Definitely don’t have the PG to do it
when will someone hold themselves accountable?
you are what your record says you are. at some point someone has to step up and say “i’m not doing my job and i’m going to work harder to get it to where it needs to be.”
now whether that’s the coach (who i think it should be) or Melo or Amar’e or whoever, i don’t care. but this lack of a plan when the game is on the line is not acceptable. failing to execute a plan is one thing, but they don’t even look like they know where they’re supposed to be late in the 4th.
"you are what your record says you are"
one game under 500 while dealing with injuries and trying to figure out how to play together?
dosnt sound like a reason to throw in the towel.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
i actually think we're worse than our record says
if you check our league-wide stats, our record should be much worse. our FG% differential is -3.451% – good for 5th worst in the league. REB/gm -2 good for 9th worst in the league. opponents are shooting 39% from 3 against us. 2nd worst in the league.
these statistics aren’t getting better any time soon. not with the way the knicks have been playing so far this year. getting baron davis might help our assists/gm (5th worst in the league) but come on. something needs to change.
statistics to back up the feeling most of us have around here that we are playing like garbage
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this is too depressing
im going to spend the little rooting energy I have left on the GMen. Wake me up when we start winning.
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