Chris Broussard's anonymous source says that Deron Williams has a list and the Knicks are on that list and everybody should care about the list.

by Seth on Jan 20, 2012 3:38 PM EST in News

A few of y'all have already brought this up (thanks mindfeck), but here's the thing that Chris Broussard posted this afternoon about Deron Williams. Deron Williams, you see, is a player on the Nets who will become a free agent this summer. Like all the cool free agents these days, he's apparently assembled a "wish list" (a list that is never written, but instead communicated to people without names who have Chris Broussard's BBM pin), and the Knicks are apparently on that "list", as they always are when people make "wish lists". Of course, there are other teams on that "list", and said "list" is meaningless if the Nets can convince Williams to stick with them en route to Brooklyn (which seems likely). Here's a thing:

Williams has grown to enjoy living in New York and he is excited about the off-the-court business opportunities the city provides, so if Howard doesn't join him with the Nets, he would love to remain in New York and play for the Knicks, sources said. While no trade talks have taken place between the clubs, the Knicks could theoretically offer either Carmelo Anthony or Amare Stoudemire, thus giving the Nets a superstar to lead them to Brooklyn.

Whatever. I'm not one to concern myself with such a distant possibility and will erase this entire notion from my memory NOW. You're welcome to discuss it, though. Wait, discuss what? What am I doing at this computer?

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i think the idea of a wish list is amusing

i imagine that the player sits down with a crayon and a piece of green construction paper and draw pictures of themselves in the uniform of each team on their list.

"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon

by ny knickerbocker on Jan 20, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions 10 recs

LOL

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions

dear santa,

by frilly on Jan 20, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions

lol

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Jan 20, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

or different color construction paper for different teams

like Green for Milwaukee, blue for NY, purple for Utah or pink for miami…

by blackhova on Jan 20, 2012 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

For those who want to just build this team for a while and stop trading...

This helps:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10861481

by Sprewell on Jan 20, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions

Thanks...

by robk on Jan 20, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions

The picture is fitting. I know Baron is the missing piece. G___ damnit...lets just give it some time. He'll lead the Knicks and he's takin this muthafucka old school.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

Is it just me

or does everything on Yahoo load extra slow these days?

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 20, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

Ha! Nailed it, Seth

Good work.

By the way, I was thinking today that they need to get you on those ESPN.com 5-on-5 NBA debates when it concerns the Knicks. Pull some strings and make it happen! Or if you don’t have strings to pull just ask or something

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by WSD on Jan 20, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions

Obviously we’re going to trade Amar’e for Deron and than trade Chandler and Douglas and our 2027 1st round pick for Chandler.

Durrrr :/

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jan 20, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions

is the second chandler wilson chandler?

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by mindfeck on Jan 20, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions

that was part of the joke….

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions

Kobe Divorce

Vanessa World PEEEAAAACCCEEEE!!!!!!!!

by Jesse is Raww on Jan 20, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions

I wonder what the Nets' SB Nation is saying about this

but not enough to go over there.
Actually I was there a couple days ago and most of the people I could deduce as being “big dogs” over there were confident that he’ll stay. Who knows.
He’s not a pure PG tho. so yeah.
Also, they (the Nets) could likely get a few Melo or Amar’e Bandwagon fans to swap teams by doing that; it might be a genius strategy for BK in that regard.
All that aside, I’ll make the obligatory mention that yes, this is all unproven and ludicrous.

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions

Well, I think Deron is a pure PG.

Secondly there are no “big dogs,” at Netsdaily. Just a bunch of little kids posting gifs of some fat kid screaming at a Nets game, pictures of Ed Lover holding “C’mon Son” sign, and endless rants about how MarSon Brooks is the latest "untradeable player(officially taking that title away from Brook Lopez), and that the Nets are going to build a dynasty with Dwight Howard and that oh yeah, Brook Lopez has lots and lots and lots of potential. Outlol.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

lol

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

Aw, I feel bad for Outlaw even though he is immensely rich.

A void? I see no void!

by gunsbound on Jan 20, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions

Sadly, a lot of this is very true

2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44

And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.

by BigTom on Jan 21, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions

I'm on the too distant to care boat

by Joamiq on Jan 20, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions

In that case, please pass the salt & pepper

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by Russ on Jan 20, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

This is very tricky

I do think Williams is a better fit here than Melo, as of right now in this moment. But if Baron Davis comes back and plays well, Baron + Melo > Williams + Bill Walker or Landry Fields or whomever else the Knicks would play there.

So you’ve got to think that it makes sense to wait to see what Baron can do, and you might not know the answer to that question until after the trade deadline.

For some reason, I just feel like going with Baron/Shump at the PG position. I just have a really good feeling that Baron will find redemption here. And I’m a little disturbed by how quickly and easily Utah jetisoned Williams.

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by fuhry on Jan 20, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions

Well they didn't want to deal with a Lebron, Melo situation. Nothing obtuse about that.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions

though he does have "negatives" surrounding him but then again which star player doesn't.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions

Much Respect to Nets management if this is true to their position:

If the Nets’ nightmare scenario comes to pass and they don’t get Howard, sources said they will not trade Williams for marginal players merely to avoid losing him for nothing in free agency. If Williams walks, the Nets will be left with enough cap room to sign two high-salaried players, which they view as a better option than eating up their cap space with average talent.

They risk getting nothing, but they risk it for the potential to build a winner instead of being stuck with crap for years

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions

and if they do get nothing, what's the worst that happens?

They get a lottery pick, and as many as they need until something sticks. Get a team of serious talent development experts in there and some great scouts (all paid for by the Russian billionaire off of 1 day’s interest earnings) and you’re back in rebuilding territory with underpaid young talent!

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions

that makes no sense

Letting him walk would mean they get salary cap space. Trading him would mean they got at least a pick.

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by mindfeck on Jan 20, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

i mean a pick, by way of being terrible

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions

didn't they trade their pick for this year?

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by mindfeck on Jan 20, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions

totally possible

i just think the league has become too focused on “getting something” and has forgotten how valuable cap space and the draft can be

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions

No

by netsfanrasmus on Jan 20, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions

Well if they have their first round pick

That would be an even better reason to trade away their best player instead of letting him leave. They could get a better pick AND an additional pick.

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by mindfeck on Jan 20, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

Trading him for picks would be supremely wise

You got me there.

by mp987987 on Jan 21, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions

"will be left with enough cap room to sign two high-salaried players.?"

The Nets are going to get smacked with the reality of the post summer of 2010/New CBA reality: superstars are going to be impossible to get in free agency. But by all means let the Nets go ahead and “horde cap space,” so that they can at least put it on some massive billboard on Atlantic Avenue with Jay Z in the foreground: Keepin it Real with Cap Space!

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions

I'll stick with my original idea

I want to see this, whatever it takes. Gotta go to work, enjoy tonight’s game all

by mp987987 on Jan 20, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions

Kinda wierd

that the Deron trade may not work out for them in the end.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Jan 20, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions

Is this where we are?

Have we given up already on the current team and the (pipe) dream of Baron Davis and moved on to grasping at fantasy trades?

If so that cool. Trade Melo for Deron.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions

this isn't a new idea

but the idea of baron davis saving the team seems less likely these days

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by mindfeck on Jan 20, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions

less likely to you.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions

Less likely to anyone not on drugs

Or certified incompetent by NYS.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions

cute

but let’s just be kind to one another, please.

Posting and Toasting: DWTDD.

by Seth on Jan 20, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

Sorry was trying to be funny not mean

I guess the cost of my tickets vs the state of the franchise has given rise to some unconscious anger. I apologize.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions

Oh right, you're the one that wants the Knicks to start Lin or at least give him 15-20 mpg off the bench. So when you talk about being certified by NYS for incompetence are you speaking from experience?

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

So, uh, remember the part where I said to be kind to one another?

Posting and Toasting: DWTDD.

by Seth on Jan 20, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

Well,

I didn’t want Melo on the Nets a year ago, & I damn sure don’t want him there now. Same for STAT. Besides that, the pieces don’t match up for both teams as presently constituted. Pass on this rumor.

And if not, I turn around & say forget it.

by Brian. on Jan 20, 2012 5:06 PM EST reply actions

Haha, you've got balls

Respect

by mp987987 on Jan 21, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions

Well Lin does/did occasionally pass

And mixing it up would give us no worse results in the last few games and I loved the “Rudy” story (except for the last part where he gets busted by the SEC for cheating). I also was a huge believer in Jorts since draft day…so yeah I will stand by my Taiwanese Tasmanian Devil. Go get em Jeremy…where ever you are.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions

Is it true that they slip your meals underneath your door?

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions

Please see my reply to your previous comment

Posting and Toasting: DWTDD.

by Seth on Jan 20, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

No you know thats a rumor. I sat next to you at lunch yesterday

Your the ugly guy that drools a lot, right? Gotta to run. Ttyl

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions

too weak to reply to anyway.

by bababooey2 on Jan 20, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions

so we're on the list

………

and who cares? Absolutely nothing to trade. I dunno, do they want Amar’e? Melo? Or are we only on said made up list cuz of Melo and Mare? Stuck between a shit and a fart, the Knicks are.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 20, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions

The only asset of interest is Melo, imo

Amare is a horrid defender, and if the Nets weren’t willing to throw $100 million uninsured at Stat in 2010, then they’re not going to do it now. We know the Nets wanted Melo, so that’s at least a conceivable trade. But if the Knicks don’t give up Melo, then there’s nothing the Nets would want. And I don’t see the Knicks trading Melo for Deron because it would amount to a “six of one, half a dozen of another” type of trade for the Knicks.

2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44

And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.

by BigTom on Jan 21, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions

Melo for D-Will and Morrow

I’d do that deal yesterday

by flossy on Jan 20, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions

Yes, we need a PG and yes Williams is a star but

No, I do not want to see this team gutted a third time

I’ll pass

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by bluecheese999 on Jan 20, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions

Melo is this team

I can’t see him moving after all that has happened. Amare on the other hand…

by DonMoosavi on Jan 20, 2012 5:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions

No make it Melo. Last year with Amare the team did well.

We’ve only gotten worse since Carmelo came to town.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions

Melo "is" this team?

or is he what’s wrong with this team? Or is it both? So since there’s something clearly wrong with this team, can we trade the “team” and rid it of what’s wrong with it in the same move? 2 birds, one stone?

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 20, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

Throw that stone man, throw it!

Unfortunately Melo was a Dolan hire so we will be stuck with him longer than the Isiah Thomas comeback rumors.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

Although a Melo team coached by Isiah Thomas

Could possibly be the only thing that could make me root for the Heat.

by I know smart people on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions

Mike Bibby for D-Will

I know its a lot to give up, but we would really be helping out our future neighbors here.

by Mikel L on Jan 20, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions

and one day, we'll need a cup of sugar

by mp987987 on Jan 21, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions

Deron is aware how crappy he's playing, right?

Seems like a weird thing for his agent to leak right now.

by Chuck Burly on Jan 20, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions

Nets! Knicks!

The Nets should trade D.Williams to Sacramento for D.Cousins/T.Evans and a number one draft pick.
If they sign RFA W.Chandler/SF in March and trade Morrow or Farmar fotr O.J.Mayo they now would have the pieces to satisfied D.Williams to run the point with talent.
The Nets can still get R.Felton/PG as a FA in 2012 if he walks.

Now if the Knicks just hold tight he may just come over by boat to our Knicks to run the show.
First things first get rid of D’Antoni and his coaching clowns and maybe just see if we can trade Stoudemire for Howard now. hmmmm could work out as I see it.

by Dziedzic on Jan 20, 2012 6:57 PM EST reply actions

who cares.go root for your Proctologist

by screamedia on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions

i know its fantasy land, and im glad all of this Melodrama, Dwightmare is finally over this season

but if it is at all possible to get Dwight Howard, even if we had to do something like Chandler and Stoudemire for Howard and someone like Ryan Anderson…

Then hope than Deron Williams forces the Nets hand, we could offer them Shumpert, Fields, Douglas, Anderson, and maybe throw someone like Jerome Jordan

Williams,Anthony, and Howard is a much more balanced core

by Chris3035 on Jan 20, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions