All together now... "I told you so". Now what?

because you haven’t told me so.

You were all on the FO’s fucking nuts after they signed Chandler and so was I. We’re on the rise! Grunwald’s a genius! Fuck you. Things go bad and the team has to face consequences, but you special fucking snowflakes get a free pass for buying into the same shit they did. <3

I was wrong. We are fatally flawed. I’m not saying its over but the lack of effort sure is depressing. I say trade Amare, love him but I love this crappy franchise more. One thing though, can we stop blaming Melo? Not saying he doesn’t deserve some blame, but if no one is making shots its hard to blame him completely I think.

(Acceptance is the first step towards recovery) <3 you all.

Knicks killed the values of these guys. Just like with Zach Randolph, a great player whose value became negative just by being on a bad Knicks team with a bad coach and bad management who let it be known he wasn’t in the long term plans.

You can’t get an up and coming guy like Lowry or Ryan Anderson. And the rest of the guys mostly suck.

because I generally do not do things like that, and I was not with P&T when this is happening.

But in the end it doesn’t matter because I want them to do well because this is who we have. Even we had Curry and we all hated him, I wanted him to do well.

I’m a pessimist when it comes to BD, but I want him to do well.

My doubts with Melo were:

1) ISO player doesn’t fit with D’antoni
2) Not an efficient scorer

Number 2 is a big one with me, because any star that has been worth their salt is efficient with the ball. Its a commonality that is pretty consistent throughout the years of the NBA.

One thing that kills us is Dolan. My only suggestion is we keep riding this out and cheering until Dolan looses this team or has a change of heart. I cannot believe Donnie allowed this trade to happen. We were on the right track until this Melo trade.

More trades aren’t going to fix this situation. New GMs and New coaches won’t change things. Yeah things are better then when we had Scott or Isiah, but in end its the same result.

It starts and ends with Dolan.

Since I live in the DC area I get to hear about the redskins all the time, and I feel like them this past decade.

Do you know why you are full of shit? Because Deron Williams was not on the fucking trading block during the Melo fiasco.
Do you know why the Knicks never traded for Deron Williams? Because he was the franchise player in Utah and there was NO reason to think they would even consider moving him.
Do you know why Deron WIlliams isn’t a Knick? Because the Utah Jazz planned to offer Deron to the team who missed out on Carmelo Anthony. They made this decision PRIVATELY and INTERNALLY so there was no way the Knicks would be aware of such an opportunity.
Do you know how the Nets landed Deron Williams? Because Billie King JOKINGLY asked about him while on the phone about trading for Andre Kirilenko. There was NEVER a plan to “go get Deron Williams.” They were talking about an AK-47 trade and as they were wrapping up, King just asked out of the blue “Let me throw something at you to see if it makes sense.” There was no buildup. There were no other teams in the mix. The Nets were the only team to inquire about Deron Williams and they offered very ideal package for him.

Please. No one should have any reason to think the Knicks ever had a chance to land Deron Williams. And you know what? I’m happy because Deron Williams is a fucking asshole.

First, we should look directly at the look-a-like Pringles logo, in Dantoni. Why? Because all of our problems are a result of DISCIPLINE. Our Knicks are embarrassing undisciplined. Who is the person reponsible for a team’s overall discipline?? Yep, the head Coach. He is coaching this team like an All-Star team, letting the players go out there and do whatever the hell they want. Guess what happens when you let all our low basketball IQ, and dumber than a box of rocks players do whatever they want?? They will naturally play, lazy, selfish, minimum effort, and extremely undisciplined basketball. Does that sound familiar?? There is also another form of discipline called self-discipline. This is the ability for a person to do what is right without being told to do so. In other words, if our players had self-discipline, then they could at least realize Dantoni is clueless and go out there and do what their experiences have shown them actually wins games. Billups was a good example of a very self-disciplined player. It always appeared as if Chauncy would just ignore Dantoni’s babble and go out there and run the team his way because he knows what it takes to win. So, we have players with zero self-discipline and a coach that is a giant wuss, and scared teach and enforce team discipline. Add those two things together and what do you get?? Ladies and Gentlemen introducing your 2012 New York Knicks!!!!!

I’m not trying to be stalkerish – but I remember clearly reading a fanpost of yours last season when you wanted us to get Melo and Tony Parker in consecutive three team trades.

At least the knicks have Some chance now.

if we have regime change, then we talking serious. Until then, we just fans with fantasies.

from the content of the post itself to every single comment that follows, has made me want to fucking hurl.

Thanks guys, for making an already pleasureless season that much worse. Preciate that.

We have to remember why we even considered going after Melo in the first place. It’s because we had no got to guy. We had no one who would put the game on their backs and deliver a win when it counted most. We had no one to take the last shot. And say whatever you want about Carmelo Anthony but he is one of those guys and we have him now.

I can remember countless threads where we all would wish for one of those guys and now he’s here.

I can remember all the arguments on if Gallo would ever be that guy, could he ever deliver in the clutch, and the hypothetical arguments over potential and now we don’t have to argue about hypothetical talent.

It’s not that we don’t have talent. I don’t know anyone who could deny that. We’re just not playing well. Plain and simple. Don’t hang that albatross on Carmelo Anthony, he’s a Knick just like all the other Knicks that are playing bad. He’s not a GM, he didn’t trade himself and he’s not a coach, he doesn’t come up with strategy or game plans. There are a MULTITUDE of problems here folks and it doesn’t stop and end with Carmelo Anthony no matter how much you miss those guys in Denver who are no longer even thinking about the Knicks.

Speaking of those ex-Knicks, are we really gonna continue to gloss over the fact that no matter how much potential they had, the fact of the matter is that they weren’t exactly lighting the world on fire either. They were a .500 team. Maybe some guys are mad about the money spent but if we kept Gallo he would have had to get paid all the same and judging from his play in Denver he wouldn’t have been cheap. Felton? Still would have had to get paid. Same thing. Chandler? Same thing. Mozgov?….okay…. well, he still would have been cheap. But the point is please lets just move on. We’re putting these guys on a pedestal to the point members of the community are actually rooting for these Knicks to fail! I mean really, how fucked up is that? I’ll tell you. It’s very fucked up.

We sit here and talk of the glory days of Felton and shit on any mention of this current team needing more time when Felton fucking needed more time to get on the same page with Amare when he first got here. Conveniently forgettable to the “I told you so” masses though. Are Anthony and Stoudemire not Knicks? So Felton and Gallo are cool now and their chemistry development was natural but Anthony and STAT need to be quarantined from each other and traded immediately?

Honestly, you don’t think I’d give my left nut to have Felton running point right now? Okay, maybe not my nut. I still need that, but definitely a pinky toe. Yeah we’re losing. Yeah, we don’t look good. Even so it’s early in the season, we’re only like a game out of 8th place right now and despite the staggering loses our defense and rebounding has improved. Even Stoudemire is even rebounding! Stoudemire! There are positives to take away from these games even if I want to hurl my TV at the sight of every predictable Melo iso.

Lets keep things in the proper perspective though. Even if the sky is falling, If you act like the sky is falling, it sure as hell aint gonna stop the sky from falling. All the fucking “I told you so’s” go out the window when we start winning. Let’s not say anymore shit we can’t take back.