Give Melo some patience
People are being way too critical of Melo and his perceived disinterest in team ball. Even if he is missing too many shots right now, we knew this would be his game and most of us still wanted him. It's not like the guy doesn't take the blame for sucking or hasn't made an effort to improve his passing and overall defensive effort.
Just read what he said after the game:
"I think we as a team need to do a better job getting Amare the ball," Anthony said. "I don't know. I have the ball in my hands, maybe it's on me. Maybe I need to get him the ball a little but more, help him out with that. Me and STAT will talk, probably tomorrow, Monday, try to figure it out together. If I'm doing too much I want him to tell me. I want the guys on my team to tell me if I'm doing too much and we'll handle him like that."
per ESPN/knicksblog
We see all these shots he is putting up and some of us assume he just wants to be a ball hogging, stat stuffing, brick shooting jerk who doesn't trust his teammates and is content with never winning as long as he gets his at the end of the day. But I just see a guy who wants to win more than anything and believes in his ability to hit the next shot; and that is coming from hours of practicing certain shots in the gym and years of making them in the NBA. The Knicks are asking him to do more than he has ever had to do before, and for probably the first time he doesn't have a single capable point guard to make his job easier (except the few minutes Bibby is out there, which would ideally be third string minutes behind two real guys). I am not here preaching to give patience for Baron Davis to save this teams offense - though I do think he will be a huge lift if he can find STAT (and even get Tyson some shots) for more open looks and ones closer to the basket, which should open the floor up nicely for Melo - I am preaching to give patience for Melo to make this team: fun to watch, better than expected, flow and something we are proud to call the Knicks. I am not even asking you to stop booing or hating on him, especially since his shot is stinking up the joint, and especially because I believe that will help drive him to be the best Melo he can be (sounds cheesy, but I really think he has all the skills to be one of the top five NBA players for the life of this contract, not just a top 5 scorer). I believe that he hears the critics and won't be satisfied until he shuts them up. I really believe that having two scorers of this talent, and specifically these two guys, is championship worthy when teamed with one of the top defensive centers in the game - when was the last time anyone held Dwight under 10 points? - almost regardless of the players around them. I can only imagine those 3 dominating everyone on offense in a 3-on-3 halfcourt game, while, STAT aside, playing more than capably on D - maybe that is how they should practice until the offense is improved, because you just add two guards behind the 3-point line and it's not too different. I think many of us already believe that he could average twice as many assists per game with the players around him.
Again, I am not saying you should give his current shitty shooting and overshooting a break, I just think you shouldn't conclude that he won't get better and has a bad attitude because of what we are seeing during this AWFUL play and losing streak - I just think you should give him time to improve. I get it, we are NY fans and we expect the best, and we want it immediately and always, so go out to MSG and boo him as loud as possible when he shoots 10-30, he deserves it, but don't give up on him or this team - whose terrible shooting as a collective, can't even knock down open shots, is just as much to blame - just yet, because as they say, 'the best things in life are worth waiting for.' Just because Melo hasn't been a passer enough yet, doesn't mean he can't or won't become one. I don't know, I am probably just an idiot, and probably just wasted my time writing this, but sometimes you gotta get what you're thinking out there.
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you're not an idiot.
you’re just optimistic and I admire that because I have lost my patience. I know he usually doesn’t miss so many shots but he has really hurt his team and been playing awful as you are aware of. I didn’t expect big time results so quickly and I hate trades that happen the way it went down last season, but what most people or fans want is some nice basketball. Ball movement and faster pace. This is not fun and I think that’s what most people are more upset with. This team is boring and always finds a way to screw a game up and tonight was his fault. The team was playing NY ball and built a lead while he was on the bench. He comes into the game and I told my brother that Denver will erase the lead and they sure did. maybe not having a real point guard(not just any scrub who plays that position but someone who can take charge and lead) then things can get better but I just don’t see it bright now. He has to definitely adjust his game and be able to play at a faster level and move without the ball. He can’t be such a ball stopper because it hurts the rest. It’s one thing to do what he does when nothing else is working or there isn’t much time left on the shot clock, but no reason to shoot so many shots when he was clearly not making them. Late in the first overtime period, he was ganged up on by 3 Denver players and he was planning on shooting it when he had other players that were open. Fields was near him and open if he had passed the ball but he wanted to shoot it himself and he turned the ball over instead.
It is pissing the fans off and messing up his role players and Stat. The criticism should be a wake up call for him if he cares at all and should pay more attention when he is on the bench and the team is moving the ball and shooting in rhythm. We could have won this game if he had not done what he did and his late game heroics would not even been needed. He makes things more difficult than they are and sometimes he bails the team out by hitting a big shot, but one has to realize that he is often the reason that a game even comes down to that. The ball should move the way it did in the first half even when is on the court. When I see that, then I will see some hope. i know he is good at iso game and that’s his skill but he has to adjust and get others involved. There is no need for him to do this so much and so early in the shot-clock.
as a clear anti-melo guy...
that quote gave me more hope than anything i’ve seen on the court.
i gotta give credit to the NY media… i think the intelligence (ahem…) of the fan base here and our collective unwillingness to put up with bullshit, losing, prima dona basketball is finally getting to melo.
maybe denver was too small for him and he brushed everyone off who was trying to tell him what we are… but now… NOW MELO… you gotta fucking listen.
and maybe he does. maybe NYC turns melo into the stone cold assassin we need him to be. maybe our collective bitching and complaining and critiquing gets into his soul and OVERPOWERS his old, selfish basketball habits and wipes that childish grin off his face when he hits a shot to put us up 4 points in the 2nd quarter… and turns it into a scowl that reveals a new competitive nature… one that is all about dominating the court and going to war with the other 12 guys wearing the same colors as he is.
so yeah, i’ll keep hating the selfish, low IQ’d basketball player that is carmelo anthony… and beneath my vitriol, i’ll hold this quote in my mind and hope that transformation will happen.
Great post
Some problems stemmed from fans:
A) not liking Melo in the first place
B) not liking the trade and loosing some hometown favorites
C) the crap we have put up in all of these years
I think when STAT came here he was lucky to have a coach he played with, a descent PG, and a talented group here to work with. He made an immediate impact and we saw improvement.
Melo was not thrown into such an ideal situation. But he is somewhat at fault for throwing himself into this situation. I think this is what hurts the most especially for me.
But I’m not a fan demanding trades or the coaches head, because that isn’t the answer either.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
to be honest
But he is somewhat at fault for throwing himself into this situation.
Its 100% his fault. We had the cap space to sign him in the offseason. The only reason we had to make the trade was he was forcing the issue so he can make an extra 60 mil. There was absolutly no reason to make that trade the time it was made other then Melo was threatening to sign with the Nets long term if it didnt happen.
And we were all told we needed Melo to help us in that years postseason, cause it was silly to assume the team that got us there, could play to the level needed to be there… or something.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
not 100%
Denver probably would have took much less, they wasn’t gonna risk him walking for nothing they just knew we would bite. NJ was still in play which upped the ante and Denver did their best to leak out to the media and anyone who would listen that we didn’t have ANY assets all in an effort to watch us pile up more into their grocery cart and it worked. The same unattractive assets are now being heralded in Denver to the point where residents of the good town are probably offering their virgin daughters to gallinari as sacrafice.
so yeh melo had a hand in this but the front offices of the Knicks, Denver and an impatient fan base are just as blamable.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 22, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
i hate everyone today
i just want my old team back.
GAH. Sports suck as much as they are awesome.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Melo’s play pales next to David Lee’s and Lee is not complaining about not having a
point guard.
Lee just continues to be a class guy, getting his rbs, shooting 51.2%, 10.6 rbs, 18.6 ppg
QUALITY ALWAYS RISES TO THE TOP
Give Melo only 15 shots a gm, and he scores maybe 16, 17 ppg.
Give David Lee the same 15 shots a gm, and he scores 18-20 ppg
Yes, but give Melo ten game-on-the-line-facing-a-double-team shots and he’ll make seven of them, and Lee would make one or two of them.
He can’t do it alone. No player can. But once we have an honest to goodness guard distributing the ball, you will be grateful to have a closer like Melo on your team. There aren’t more than ten guys like him in the entire NBA, whereas there’s at least one guy like Lee on almost every team.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Lee is gone
I liked him too, I argued tooth and nail over his merits, shit aint work out. He’s gone, it’s time to move on dude.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 22, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
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