Carmelo Anthony got unusually introspective after last night's game.
by Seth on Jan 22, 2012 11:51 AM EST
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PrintI don't typically put much stock in post-game quotes, in large part because our Knicks have always been trained to give dull, vapid answers to combat the poking and prying of the New York media. And Carmelo Anthony's embraced that approach wholeheartedly, tending to deflect and defuse criticism that a lot of us would rather hear him address. Last night, though, he at least took a step toward acknowledging his foibles. Al Iannazzone (Alan Hahn's replacement at Newsday, by the way) was kind enough to to box Melo's semi-contrite post-game musings together for us:
Here are some of the things Anthony said:
"Maybe I need to not take so many shots."
"Maybe I should take the blame for the games weve been losing, offensive struggles. Coach does run the offense through me. So Ill take it. Ill take that blame."
"Maybe its a time to reevaluate everything, reevaluate my body, sit with the trainers, see whats going on, he said. Im kind of hard-headed as far as them telling me to sit out games. I dont really know how to take that. Maybe its time to reevaluate that."
(Others that went unpublished: "Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time", "Maybe I didn't treat you quite as good as I should have.", "Maybe the people would be the times or between Clark and Hilldale", "Definitely, maybe.", "Maeby Fünke".)
I could be wrong, but this little string of mea maybe culpas [high fives self] seems a more honest, self-aware assessment of Melo's downfalls than we've seen or heard since he's been a Knick. Granted, it's all stuff that was glow-in-the-dark obvious to the rest of us, and, granted, the answer to each of those "maybes" could be "but...nahhhh". If Melo decides he needs to sit some games (which was the expectation a few reporters got from it), then so be it, but I'm hoping most of all that this signals some-- ANY-- sort of change in mindset going forward (note that Melo also shouldered the blame for Amar'e' not getting involved, which was good of him). I refuse to believe that the guy can look at stuff like this and not take any lesson from it, and that goes for D'Antoni too. (Though, to be fair, Melo hit ridiculous isolation shots over three people in last night's fourth quarter and overtimes at about the same rate that guards hit wide-open jumpers. Yes, Amar'e should be involved and, yes, Melo needs to strike a balance, but let's not forget the season-long inability to execute from key role players.)
I don't know. I'm probably grasping at straws. Y'all saying Melo is a selfish dullard who couldn't possibly wise up this late in his career could be right. I remain hopeful because that's just how I cope in times like these for my Knicks. By all means, though, go back to begging for the guy to be traded for a desk or drowned in pudding or whatever in the comments.
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Drown him in pudding!
Not because I’m mad or anything…that would just make for great television.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 22, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions
And Carmelo Anthony has just been drowned in the pudding!
Oh, this does not go with tradition at all! This is indeed a horrible day for Canada, and therefore, the rest of the world.
A fat Carmelo
is a Carmelo that passes to another Knick because he’s just too tired to finish himself.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Seth
You made a paul mccartney reference in a knicks post. You complete me.
AND an Arrested Development one
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Well, it 's clear that Melo needs to see an analrapist
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
by Russ on Jan 22, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the most frustrating moment of the game to me
was just before that photo was taken, with 7 seconds left in ot, the ball was inbounded to stat, who was guarded by al chuckington, who can’t defend a chair, with a wide open lane behind him, as everyone was further up looking to stop melo. last season amare would have turned, driven, and dunked right down al’s face for an and-1. this season he just threw the ball out to a triple teamed melo.
the second most frustrating part of the game was melo’s double teamed shot to tie it and send it to ot. why? because shump was wide open for 3. i mean he was so wide open that the defenders might as well have been in another timezone. melo hit the shot, and that is pretty impressive, but he really shouldn’t have taken it.
so yeah, if he is looking at his game, and recognising there may be times to pass, and there may even be times to pass to amare, then that can only be a good thing.
that said i thought the knicks were actually pretty resilient and played quite well. if it hadn’t been for the unbelievable al chuckington chewing his mouthguard all over the 4th quarter (not happy amare appears to have picked up that ugly habit btw), or that ridiculous heave that went in from andre miller with a minute to go in ot, they probably would have won.
But that's how star players make teammates better
I’ve been saying the same thing about Shump not getting the ball then (to myself) since that play happened. That was a horrible shot Melo took, it’s just that it happened to go in and send the game to OT, so he got away with it.
Regarding not trusting Shump to hit the shot — he has to be given the opportunity to fail! And Melo has to give it to him! This is what Melo refuses to grasp: that it’s a lot easier to win basketball games when the team takes the best available shot. In that scenario, Shump had the best position. He hits that shot, game over. Not only that Shump gets a little more confidence (tho I’m not sure that’s possible), and more important still, Melo GETS MORE CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAMMATES. This is exactly how great players make their teammates better. Shump – or Stat, or Fields, or TD – will not improve if Melo is dribbling into double or triple teams and lofting feathery jumpers that have a 35-40% chance of going in.
I turned this game off midway through the 2nd OT because I was sick of watching Melo play 1 on 5. Furthermore, it is unconscionable, not to mention exceedingly stupid, not to give Stat any touches in the 4th, 1st OT and 2nd OT. Seriously. What. The. Fuck. If I’m Stat I’m yelling at some people after the game, “Dudes, I’m one of the best PnR finishers in the game, and y’all don’t even look at me when I slide to the rim! At least try to pass me the ball once and a while. Pringles — call me some fucking plays!”. I recall a couple dud PnRs in the OTs (not thorugh Melo, but whatever) for Stat and he got open-ish and they didn’t even look to him. Then the ball swings to Melo, the defense collapses, and he hucks it. I was hoping Mike D would bench Melo in that 2nd OT, but no, because why? I don’t know. JVG would have benched him. Just saying.
I like Melo. I think he could be an amazing team player without suffering more than a one or two point hit in his scoring average. But guys have got to push back. They have to insist on more plays, more touches. If he doesn’t comply, then I think they should freeze him out now and then. That’s what he does to them.
Number one Amare is a role player now, and he gave the ball to the man.
Had he missed the shot, people would be screaming at him for not passing to “THA MAN!” THA MAN got the ball and didn’t get it done. It happens.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
The Seth that runs BrightSideoftheSun linked to this article here on PostingandToasting in the comments to this post
SETHCEPTION
by BJabs on Jan 22, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 23, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
Great article
Maybe it gets a little “angry spurned fan” at the end a bit but a great overview of the situation. I just find it hard to believe MDA believed his was coming to a more sane ownership when he joined the Knicks. Lorraine is insane and I am pretty sure most of the league knows that.
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
This was a close game against a very good team
y’all though we would get blown out. These Knicks do not suck. I fully believe that they will improve as the season progresses (and Baron Davis could be the panacea we’re waiting for)
It falls a lot on Melo to adjust his game, and you know what I believe that he will. This kind of introspection, as Seth said does not come without change. He doesnt need to sit out necessarily, but he does need to pass more and take less bad shots. I think he’s missing a lot of good shots he’s used to making due to injury, then trying to compensate later in the game by taking bad shots.
I think Carmelo is not the selfish dullard many of you seem to label him as. I think he’s willing to become a team player and will make that adjustment. He has shown flashes of this throughout the season, and has a career high assist/game
Re: close game
This was Denver’s 4th road game in 5 nights, they were missing their two shooting guards and they only played 7 guys in a double OT game. Theoretically, this was Denver at its weakest possible moment and the Knicks still lost.
I think he’s willing to become a team player and will make that adjustment.
It sure is nice we traded 4 starters and gave a max deal to some “we hope” will become a team player!
it's hard when you've been playing 8 years (or more) the same exact way
to completely change your mentality
Right...
Which is why staking the entire future of this team for the next 4 years on the chance that he’ll change, was stupid.
bull
players grow, people can change.
we are not asking him to learn anything crazy. just play team oriented ball.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
That is a crazy thing to learn for a player who's always dominated
I’ve watched enough middle school and high school basketball to tell you that coaches don’t correct ‘star’ players from playing selfishly and going one-on-one, if they hit their shots. And they do punish non-star players for taking a good, open shot that they didn’t hit. And the ‘star player’ often gets pissed at the non-star that missed and the coaches don’t correct that either.
Passing to the open man is the right thing to do long term – short term it may not work out. I think Melo wants to be a complete player and he wants to win. This is probably one of the first times he cannot simply will his team to victory by dominating the ball. It probably has something to do with the fact that he’s hurt, but still, had he hit a few more shots in the last few games, and we won a couple of them, it doesn’t change anything because that style of basketball is not going to beat the Bulls or Heat in a seven game series. To do that, we’re going to have to have Landry, Shump, Toney, et cetera hitting those open shots consistently, and to do that they need to be comfortable with it and confident. Not only should Carmelo pass to them, if they miss, he should not display ‘pissed’ body language, and he should talk to them and say “That’s a good shot, take that every time, you’re gonna start getting those”. I don’t think Melo can do that, and if he can’t do that, it’s laughable that the world should think he’s some kind of elite superstar player.
I think Melo can improve so that he doesn’t damage chemistry. But actually enhancing it? I don’t think he’s going to get there. So they are going to have to have that leadership from someone else. I don’t think D’antoni is particularly good at it. I think Amar’e is on the right track but he doesn’t handle the ball The only hope is an authoritative, strong-willed point guard – to compensate for Melo’s chemistry-killing ways. It’s not hopeless because I think Melo wants to win and be part of a great team. But asking him to be a captain and a confidence builder / ball distributor is like asking Toney to be a point guard. It’s too much to ask.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Really?
It’s too much to ask.
I think that playing in a way that doesn’t actively diminish the on-court chemistry and confidence of his teammates is a preeeetty low bar to clear for someone who was worth a trade of four starters on top of a max salary. Or at least it should be.
It should be, you're right
Unfortunately, that part of a player’s skills does not seem to be of value to ESPN, many fans, and one James Dolan. So we will have to make the best of what we’ve got. I guess what I’m saying is that, at his salary and given that we gave up a bunch of good players for him, Melo should be able to make his teammates better. But I don’t think he is and he needs to improve in that area. If we push him too far too fast, it will have diminishing returns.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Maybe if he does everything he promised in those comments
I’d love him forever.
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions
The idea was that Melo would run the pick and roll with Amar'e and it would be awesome until Baron Davis showed up
However, every FUCKING time I see Amar’e put his arm up and run over to set a screen for Melo, Melo dribbles the wrong way (away from Amar’e rather than past him) into 3 defenders, where he either picks up his dribble and throws a bail-out pass, or attempts a dickfuck contested jumpshot that goes in often enough for him to not decide to quit playing basketball.
Not EVERY time
They ran some successful ones in the game last night. The key seemed to be Amar’e actually setting a pick instead of pantomiming one. Every time he did this Melo was five closer to the basket with the defense in chaos. I think it’s what everyone expected from this duo, but incomprehensibly it hasn’t materialized.
Keep the faith. Keep booing when Melo goes 1 on 5. They’ll get better.
One point that is relevant here
is that since Melo and Amar’e are both forwards, a pick doesn’t create as big of a mismatch as a point guard / Amar’e P&R.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Good Point, Seth.
The thing about Melo is that except for maybe Kobe he is the most determined player in the league. He has the drive that makes a player great that Kobe has, that Michael had, and that Lebron will never have so getting him to not think that he is the best option in all situations is hard. Hopefully he’s starting to see that he is the best option in many situations but that playing with his team and getting others involved is what is going to win games and that creating for others will create mor opportunities for himself. Sometimes you gotta tear it down and hit the bottom but I still think this team is still going to be great.
For me there were a lot of positives last night but overall the major thing was that when the ball was moving we were winning. Baron Davis starts practicing tomorrow and he knows how to move the ball. Really think he’s going to be a catalyst. We’ll see"
Now everybody can post that Melo’s always played like this and he’s never gonna change and we should trade him for a sack of 2 month old potatoes. It’s gotten so if I see the word “fire” or “trade” in a post I just skip to the next one anyway…
He's saying MJ, Kobe, and Melo are more driven than Lebron.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Jan 22, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see how or why that is. I guess I was taken aback by someone putting Melo and Jordan in the same breath.
Melo has gotten out of the first round of the playoffs once in his career..
Not saying Melo is close to MJ...
Just saying he has the same attitude about his game…
Um all of the other players you mentioned were elite defenders
and Melo’s defense sucks. Remember that half of the game?
It took years with Phil Jackson
a year without Phil Jackson, and more years with Phil Jackson for Kobe to learn the most rudimentary of team concepts. We probably don’t have that luxury.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
What?
The thing about Melo is that except for maybe Kobe he is the most determined player in the league. He has the drive that makes a player great that Kobe has, that Michael had, and that Lebron will never have so getting him to not think that he is the best option in all situations is hard.
I have no idea what this means.
Melo and LeBron have the same problem in their games
They both respond to adversity by trying to do everything themselves.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
It means his ego is so large he thinks he can't miss
And therefore HE THINKS he is the best option to get the ball over any of his other teammates in any situation.
Basically he’s a spoiled “me first player” who is the antithesis of " team basketball"
But maybe he changes. And if he does…Then he truly is a great player and I will love him forever.
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't get why everybody (specifically Mike Breen!) is quick to put so much blame on Melo.
Yeah he’s taking a lot of shots, but look at what everyone else is doing. Seriously Amar’e is running into the chests of defenders over the half the times he gets the ball (resulting a bad shot or an offense foul) and nobody is hitting jumpers.
Yes he could pass a little more, but I feel like it’s he won’t pass when everybody just stands there watching, but they’re standing there watching because they think he won’t pass. It’s actually quite simple, and you’d think of all coaches, D’Antoni would be able to get guys to move without the ball. I mean Melo has been hitting some open shooters and cutters, it’s just nobody is moving!
I think Baron will help a lot but losing Jorts hurts a lot too. Really scared right now.
Because this is Melo's team. He's the man, he gets the most touches and has the biggest chance
to impact the game. If the Knicks had just won 6 in a row, all of the media would be riding Melo’s did so hard La La would have to take a number to get a turn on it. But there is a down side to being the man, when the team loses it is your fault. And as for guys standing around. It is an ISO, when you call for one, you don’t want guys moving clogging up your drving lanes and bring help defenders into your area. Geesh guys please understand that. Maybe they should go back to calling it a clear out. Then we understood that meant you guys stand on this side of the floor while I go one on one!. But that is why Melo gets the blame this is his team and if it is not winning it is his fault. That’s the accountability. And really that is the only accountability there is. D’Antoni will get fired, however you can’t fire Melo! relax hvino, you will not be forced to sell your Melo jersey and burn all your Melo posters because Mike Breen says that Melo is stinking up the joint. He is n’t going anywhere.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe he should drive the ball rather than try shooting over 3 defenders
Maybe he should look at how man defenders were on him..
etc etc etc.
Also one thing about melo i've noticed in every game
First half he passes, looks like he buys into the system mostly. Second half he’s like fuck it i’m going to shoot as much as possible regardless of the situation.
True but the question is...is it a lack of
Trust in his teammates, too many years of being the only scoring option has built up habits he can’t overcome, or his ego wanting to be in the spotlight which drives his behavior?
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
it's ego. His team not only has to win, he has to get his numbers.
Your team scores 54 points and shoots 51% in the first half and you only have 7 pts. Come on if your Melo you can’t let that shit continue. So you say, well they got theirs in the first half now I am gonna get mine. And Melo is not alone, the same problem plagued virtually every big star in the history of the league except three that come to mind Russell (Could care less if he scored a point if his team won), Bird (really didn’t care about his stats as much as you would think, and magic. Everyone else, went through that I gotta get mine, even if the team is playing well without me carrying the offense. Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Dr. J all went through the same shit to varying degrees. Each got out of it. But some guys never get out of it. Barkley and Domonique Wilkins never figured it out. The guys above grew out of it and won rings. Barkely and Nique never did and have zero rings between them.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
We have the Garden crowd to thank
For Melo’s recent awakening. Think about this, all throughout Melo’s career his coaches have never dared tell him that he shoots too damn much and doesn’t pass enough. But last night, at the Garden, when the crowd chanted “pass, pass, pass” whenever Melo touched the ball, I seriously believe that was the FIRST time in his career that he has ever heard such an order. It is clear that Wusstoni doesn’t have the balls to tell him, and I think it was WONDERFUL that Knick fans took it upon themselves to coach this team. I love it !! Collectively us fans know what’s wrong with this team and how we can fix it. I am not positive, but I bet Melo never heard chants in Denver like he heard last night !! To all the die hard Knick fans out there that will be attending Knick games in the future, I beg you to PLEASE continue to keep the chanting and the coaching going. It IS definitely working which is evident from Melo’s comments, and we all know Wusstoni won’t do it so KEEP IT UP KNICK FANS !!!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 22, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I dont know about that, knicks fans..
but us nuggets fans have heard this all before. the, maybe I shoulds, that melo always says just makes us smirk cause he’ll dedicate himself to that for a while but eventually he reverts to his good old self. Chief of which is this: “this season I will dedicate myself to playing defense” RIGHT. search the nuggets archive and you’ll see he’s been saying that for the last 4 seasons. There is not question that Melo is a talented player but he’s never going to be the superstar thats worth gutting your team for- talk to any nuggets fan and they’ll tell you that.
by Japheth:the.other.kind.of.asian. on Jan 22, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Question
As a Nuggets fan, can you tell me if my assumption is correct that Denver fans never booed or chanted things like “pass, pass, pass” before??
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 22, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
that's kinda easy for you guys to say now though
before the trade it was all: “we’d never trade him to the knicks…for who???” and “they have no assets!” and "what players do they have that we would want? " and “He’s not as good as Melo are you crazy!?!”
So pardon my skepticism because the pieces we lost according to the Denver front office before actually executing the trade were sub par and had no value, but now that they are in Denver uniforms and playing well and Melo is playing bad, he’s now not worth it.
Don’t get me wrong because I would have never made that trade myself, but not because he wasn’t worth it. It was just too big a price for our particular team to pay at that time imo. You can probably understand that , it was just a complicated and chaotic state of affairs that even Knicks fans were tired of to be honest. If you guys are content with how things turned out, I’m happy for you and am glad those former Knicks are playing well for you guys. I wish them well but if we didn’t gut the team for Melo, I’m certain someone else would have and we’d be called idiots in either event. It was a classic damned if you do and damned if you don’t scenario.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 22, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't that just so sad yet true
Lord Smackington: “but if we didn’t gut the team for Melo, I’m certain someone else would have and we’d be called idiots in either event. It was a classic damned if you do and damned if you don’t scenario.”
Doesn’t that just sum up our Knickerbockers perfectly?? I am almost starting to buy into the Patrick Ewing Curse because we have not done a damn thing right since then!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 22, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think they've shown they don't need him
but for them to front as if they were all so cool about him leaving and they were never nervous about it, that’s just silly.
I honestly don’t mind opposing fans and dude didn’t say anything reckless really, just giving his opinion but it’s mad easy to make those kind of calls in hindsight.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
i know i'm nitpicking, and i'm not disagreeing
it’s not really damned if we do or dont, because (imo) we’re only damned if we gut the team for him… If we hadn’t, some people might have been pissed or called our organization idiots, but that’s not real damnation. The damnation lies only in taking him, because we’ve lost our team and can’t find our way. We would have been fine and better off keeping our team.
It’s a classic case of public perception taking the place of reason and reality, and decisions being made. This seems to be a problem in NY. One that can’t continue. And that’s why I bothered posting and making this distinction.
sure gutting the team makes no sense
forget how we’re playing now. Think about at that time, just then.
For execs, critics, & media types if we don’t take the chance then basically it’s us giving up on Melo a sure fire weapon that can take us to the next level, which especially looks bad if our team of Gallo and co who were can’t get the job done and get us into the playoffs.
And if we do the trade then well, we gut the team…mind you, I don’t think the team had to be gutted in order to trade for him but whatevs.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
You mean the same irrational nuthuggers who Chanted "WE WANT MELO"
in the first place. I laugh at this. That means that Knicks fans are inherently stupid and provincial. Because they act like they have never seen the man play. He is what he is. Folks take the good that bad and the ugly. You wanted him and he wanted you, so be happy.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
According to Stephen A Smith
Orlando has called the Knicks about Stat and Chandler for Dwight.
At this point….i think you say yes
no no no.
not straight up. you get pieces. and you wait to see what we can do with a PG. If nothing else, it’ll up the value of both of these guys and get us more in return
Well....we would have to get more in th etrade
Possibly Jameer Nelson. I don’t see how you say no to getting dwight and keeping melo
by michael28102 on Jan 22, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'll say no to keeping melo any day
But if we can get dwight and maybe get something else for melo, cool. but that’s aside from the point. I wasn’t disagreeing as hard as i made it seem
that was confusing.
if we get dwight in a trade that doesn’t involve melo, and then separately trade melo for something else, we could be looking at something pretty nice. but all in all, amare and chandler is a lot to give up. we’ll see if any of this is real
Why
Dwight does what Amare and Tyson do but in one player….
Why would you want 2 centers?
by michael28102 on Jan 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Cablevision volleyball game
You’d KILL.
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
There is something called depth
Also, the less we give up, the more we have to trade for other stuff if need be
And Tyson shut Dwight down a week ago...
And the guy can’t make a free throw to save his life.
by robk on Jan 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We traded half our team for a guy
who most people insisted was one of the two top small forwards in the league. Now we want to trade for a guy that everyone says is the best center.
Once bitten, twice shy. We have a guy who is a great defender, a great team defender, a great teammate, has learned to hit foul shots.
No thanks. I keep Tyson. I can’t bear to be disappointed by another consensus ‘best’ player at his position who seems a little to happy making cute faces for the camera.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
This is NY. The best solution to any problem is to throw big money and a
Big name at it. Where have you been Fuhry?
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
In that mystical land
Where my grandpappy walked to school 16 miles uphill both ways through the snow even in summer!
Get The Frickin' Rebound
no way man
we can’t give the both of them away. once Baron gets back Amar’e will spring into action. I can feel it in me bones.
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
we'd have a ton of 78-71 games with Dwight and Melo scoring 65 of those points
horaaay!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
then we could trade melo for deron williams!
or some shit.
Or if you don't have to take back Turk in that trade
you could probably sign D-will in free agency and pick up someone like K-mart for the veterans minimum to replace Stat.
yeah, i just think if we traded our whole team for a superstar we should try to flip him if he isn’t helping our team, which he clearly hasn’t. i don’t buy into the “these are our players” philosophy because we had a team that was “ours”…and it got traded away.
YESS!
Right on the money. The fact that we traded our boys for melo isn’t a reason to keep him until he gets us somewhere. It’s a reason to make sure the investment comes back to us by continuing to flip it until we get something worthwhile that fits and gets results.
And +1 on the sentiment about “our players” as well, exactly how I feel
Let's see the Knicks were 2 games above .500 with Stat and no Anthony
The are 9 games below .500 since Anthony joined the team. So the solution is trade Amare. Nope. By the way Orlando has not called the Knicks. I checked, Otis Smith is my cousin. He would consider Amare only if he could not get any other offers. And yes he talked to Grunwald, but not about trading Stoudemire or Chandler, actually they talked about a possible Douglas for Duhon exchange. He wants Bynum and Gasol by the way. But the Lakers only want to give him either Bynum or Gasol not both in a trade.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I would, and I hate Duhon
But we need an actual back-up PG.
Not at all! I called his Momma
I am going to be in Orlando on my brithday and the Knicks play the Magic on that night so I wanted Tix. He called me back, which usually doesn’t happen to tell me Don’t believe the shit about Amare for Dwight. Oh sure, he’d take Amare in a heartbeat, but he thinks he can get more for Dwight plus, the owner wouldn’t want to be on the hook for his contract.
by Robert Curre on Jan 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Stephen A Smith makes you
Think Frank Isola ain’t such a bad reporter
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions
Wow
That new Ziller article really takes D’Antoni to the woodshed.
That's part of the media problem right there
The Knicks need to sort shit out, but it’s not going to be a simple solution like, “Fire D’Antoni and let Woodson take over!” or “Trade Melo for Deron!”
In reality, teams get better by finding a problem (and the Knicks have found plenty) and then finding a solution that doesn’t just shift to another problem.
by superturboultra on Jan 22, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
But Ziller was targeting D’Antoni mainly because Berger decided to absolve him of ANY blame for the crappy basketball being played, which is patently absurd. D’Antoni still calls the plays.
Wrong
D’antoni doesn’t call plays. He lets the players do it and they don’t have any players that can do it right now.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Do you have a link to the Ziller article? I can't seem to find it
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 22, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions
It's over to the right
First of the SB Nation recent stories.
WOW !! Stephen A. Smith goes ape shit on our Knicks
This is a must listen for all Knick fans, old Stephen A. is clearly as pissed as we are and he is ranting and raving like a maniac!! Check it out
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 22, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions
When does he not?
Guys a fool for hire.
by I know smart people on Jan 22, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
fuck Stevey A-Hole
he’s the small dicked prick that was fighting for us to make the move to get Carmelo. Dude just likes to complain and I ain’t clicking on his shit.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 23, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Suns fan here
Amar’e is in the worst possible system he could be in. He needs to be the #1 option and he needs to have a good PG (Felton would do) feeding him the ball. History has proven that he can dominate next to a big-man who can take pressure off of him, but without those other two things, it does no good. Because he’s not a good defender or rebounder, he becomes a nobody if you’re not taking advantage of his strengths.
Unless Coach D said get Melo and trade Billups, then this really isn’t his fault. His system requires a PG that can run just like Jackson’s system requires a great SG. You guys can’t expect him to have success without one.
I liked the Knicks pre-Melo when they had Felton. They seriously should have just waited till the off-season if they really wanted Anthony. Although, I never thought Melo would be a good fit here to begin with. I think your FO bought into all that “Superteam” hype. Amar’e is a great scorer. The difference between him and Carmelo throughout their careers is that Melo got all his points through ball-hogging and shot jacking (even when they had Billups and made the WCF’s). Amar’e got all his points within the flow of the system.
You guys can try getting a PG, but if this problem is ever going to be solved, either Stoudemire or Anthony will have to be traded. Amar’e and Melo fits like Nash and Shaq.
Don't trade Dudley!
Man I hear you but I disagree
I don’t expect you to know but If you were a reg on this site or a Knicks fan, last season we went through a seeminghly endless stretch of bad games and Felton and Amar’e were not in sync….at.all. You should have seen the posts! There were many trade Felton for Nash supporters and the sky was falling and people were shitting on Felton and shitting on Amar’e and calling for Dantoni’s head and then…
some time past and Felton and Amare got on the same page, we got competitive and wins ensued. If you saw the games and read the comments here though, you would have suspected it were never possible.
So I disagree. If it’s one thing I am certain of, it’s that nothing is ever certain in sports. So predicting what can and can not work is just about as useful as secret formulas for predicting lotto numbers.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 22, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
some time past and Felton and Amare got on the same page, we got competitive and wins ensued. If you saw the games and read the comments here though, you would have suspected it were never possible.
Sometimes it just takes time. Felton is no Nash, he’s no wizard. It wasn’t going to come together as fast as it did in Phoenix. I liked that Knicks team before the trade. I thought they were fun despite being unorganized and chaotic at times. They were more comparable to the “We Believe” Warriors than the “7SOL” Suns. That offense isn’t easy to learn. They obviously needed a big-man too. It’s not easy to play defense, scramble for rebounds and then run… Wilson Chandler was no Shawn Marion and the Suns at their best had at least one decent center in Kurt Thomas.
If it’s one thing I am certain of, it’s that nothing is ever certain in sports. So predicting what can and can not work is just about as useful as secret formulas for predicting lotto numbers.
True, but that doesn’t mean we can’t try. We can learn from history. I’ve watched a lot of Amar’e and as of right now he is in the worst possible system he can be in. I believe it’s fair to say that a good PG is a must. A Melo or Amar’e trade is a maybe. I’m leaning towards both. If this is Coach D’s last year then I can see your FO dealing Amar’e and building around Melo. Amar’e just has to be the #1 option, not every night, but on most nights.
In Phoenix we had J-Rich as our #2 go to guy and he was great. I guarantee that a guy like him would be much better for this team than Carmelo Anthony. I’m not talking Gallinari or Wilson Chandler. J-Rich was better than those guys, but he isn’t like Melo. He’ll play within the flow of the system and take over when Amar’e just doesn’t have it at the moment. He didn’t care if he ended up with 10 or 25 points. Carmelo just isn’t that person because he’s never had to be. I just question if it’s too late to change.
Don't trade Dudley!
not that you don't make sense
I see your logic. I’m just against the reactionary “lets make some moves” just to make em philosophy. I’d like to see the season play out and actually see that Amar’e and Melo can’t play together at all before splitting them up and getting who knows what back.
I can’t tell you if Melo can change or even if he should, because lets face it if we were winning instead of losing Melo could take a hot piss on a nun and still no one would be questioning anything that Carmelo did. All I can say is that they’ve shown flashes of being able to work together and that leads me to believe it can be done in time.
The two may very well have to be traded and maybe they can’t play together but given the fluctuations in our roster over the years and now the adjustment in coaching staff and the shortened season, I’d prefer to give the team as a whole more time before making more whole scale changes. A gang of people here think time is a sin though, I for one think it’s simply prudent.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 24, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Beavis. The Knicks were .500 up until the trade deadline. This is the "great" team you speak of?
Secondly, Amare – Melo will mesh with a great facilitator.
Thirdly, Melo would have been sign and traded to NJ if Knicks pulled out.
I can't see where I called them "great"?
I knew they were .500 which is where I had expected them to be at the time. Perhaps you guys expected more? Sometimes we just place unrealistic expectations on our teams and don’t appreciate them as much as we should. I know I’ve done that before. I was actually jealous of you guys. The Suns and Knicks were evenly talented last year, but you guys were much younger and things were just beginning. For us, things were ending…
Secondly, Amare – Melo will mesh with a great facilitator.
Hopefully. Melo will have to learn how to share and be a part of the system. If you look at all the other high scorers in Phoenix besides Amar’e during those years, you’ll notice that Barbs got his points from playing many bench minutes. Marion got his points from hustle plays. Joe Johnson got his points in a similar way to J-Rich. Of course Nash helped everybody out, but point is, they all got their points within the flow of the system. Melo is the kind of guy who stops that flow and he’ll have to stop doing that in order for things to mesh between him and Amar’e. We’ll just have to wait and see if it all works out.
Don't trade Dudley!
Maybe
I’d give it till all-star break like the Suns did with Porter. Terrible mess and by the deadline, nothing had changed. At that point we knew either he or Shaq or both or Amar’e would have to go. Kerr made the right choice and got rid of Porter and later that summer got rid of Shaq. After the firing they dished out 3 straight 140 point games. Then there was the freak accident, but that’s history. Overall, I agree with you though. Got to give it more time, give Melo more time, see how much Baron will help…
Don't trade Dudley!
dude..stop using the shaq example.
shaq was washed up by the time he got to phoenix..thats why miami got rid of him and thats why he didn’t “mesh” with nash/amare.
Personally
I’d give it the season but if the losing continues I don’t know if I’d be mad at them making a move at the break. I think it’d probably be as short sighted as gutting the team the first time around but at least I would know the front office has given up on the season and I can then say fuck it.
But really it makes no sense to me.
We gut a team that was both underachieving and overachieving depending on the day and who you asked, just as they seemed to figure things out in order to put together a supposed-to-be dominant front court of Amare/Chandler/Anthony only to gut that and for what? Anybody putting on that Knicks jersey next is walking into some of the same problems. If that doesn’t work are we just gonna ship off some more players?
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
I don't blame anyone for bashing Melo but I for on e think it's unreasonable to blame the lack of success solely on him.
His teammates gotta take some heat too. No, it’s not a coincidence that when he is out things are more fluid but when he is in the team is too content to leave shit up to him and do the heavy lifting. And if the team is just gonna stand around and hope he passes to them without moving an inch, waiting for their defender to collapse on Melo, then they better be damned sure they hit the shot on the kick out.
Asides from all of that, we cant blame the ceaseless switching on Anthony, we can’t blame TD’s play nor the lack of bench production on Anthony, and we can’t blame Amar’e wanting to turn into a shooting guard for half of this young seasons games on Anthony. It’s a combination of problems that aren’t going to be fixed overnight with a trade here or a firing there.
As for Carmelo Anthony, he’s been the man on every team from day one and has never had to worry about integrating into another system or fitting along with other pieces at all. Never. At no point in his career. This thing here in NY is a different situation for him, and I don’t think it’s too far fetched to think he and the others would need an adjustment period during which time they’d get the crap kicked outta them.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 22, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions
Grew up in Colorado, lived in Brooklyn until recently.
I think you make some salient points in your post, but if you had watched all the ‘Melo Nuggets games, you would have seen the same “switch every screen” defense I saw last night. I’m not saying that there is definitely a correlation with ’Melo’s move to NY, but it is pretty damning.
I'm sure Melo waas used to switching off screens in Denver
but Dantoni has had this thing for a while now where any and everyone switches on EVERYTHING. Not sure if Karl did the same thing but Anthony aint the one dictating that here. It’s been a staple for a while now.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 24, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
Somebody needs to step up and do or say something
Because they can’t win if they have to adjust their game to Melo and that’s how it’s looking when it should be the other way around. Anthony admitted he’s got a problem. Now he’s got to fix it, but it’s up to the Coach to make sure that’ll happen. Coach D needs to control this team. I’ll admit, he was never good at handling egos in Phoenix. Nash got all the love and JJ, Marion and Amar’e all felt under appreciated, but he’s got to give Carmelo a shorter leash and hold him accountable.
Don't trade Dudley!
Ha! Oh, Carmelo
“Maybe I need to not take so many shots.”
Well, yeah
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I know this is a slightly different position
and the Mavs are in a different position, but they’re sitting out Dirk for a few games to recuperate because he’s not playing well through injury
if the Finals MVP can sit, Melo shouldnt feel bad about it
on kind of another note
i’m not really upset with amar’e taking only… 12 shots was it?
if he shoots 50-60% and gets to the line for 4-8 shots, we’re talking about roughly 20 points of highly effective basketball. and the most important thing is he kept the ball moving, which helped some of the other guys get good looks and generate some rhythm.
going forward, the stars need to pass all game long (as in: keep the ball humming, pause). if only to make it harder to double or triple team them later. if you want the ball late, you gotta get the rest of the team involved early. its the only way to keep the defense honest. and its the only way you’ll be able to bank on them if they are the only one with a good shot.
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cus i'm sayin
its one thing to watch melo get iso-crazy. at least you know you’ll come away with some buckets eventually. but with amar’e doin it, you’re mostly getting offensive fouls, walks, horrible misses and ultimately technicals.
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Nuggets Fan here
A couple of things I saw during the game. First off, you guys use Melo a lot on the left side, which is a spot he never played from in Denver. He was always over on that right side. This may account for some of his early game misses. When he went back to the right, he looked like the very same Melo he always was. More comfortable over there, if you follow me. Maybe you guys can watch and see if this is just me imagining things or a trend.
I actually saw a fair amount of him dishing off— until the people he dished to proved incapable of hitting anything. After that it was Earth vs. Melo. Not surprisingly, Melo gave Earth a pretty good run for its money. You would have never gotten to OT without him going all Melo on us. Nobody from Denver was surprised to see him do that. If you need one guy to hit one shot regardless of the odds, Melo is the guy, along with Kobe and Dwayne Wade. So you should accept that as one of his pluses to set off against his minuses. It’s the one thing that Denver gave up. There is no money guy for the last shot when you’re down by one. Might be some guys getting there, but nobody to count on like Melo. When some of the other holes get filled in, this will be a very valuable thing to have in your arsenal.
I wasn’t real worried about the Knicks having a hot quarter. If a bunch of guys who shoot in the 40s start hitting in the 60s, the odds are actually pretty good that they will go back to shooting in the 40s but keep trying to jack it up as if they were actually capable of sustaining a percentage in the 60s. If they keep hitting in the 60s all night, you’re doomed and there isn’t anything going to change that.
I don’t really think that Baron Davis is the answer, since he has never been the answer anywhere else. I seem to recall that he was a mercurial ball hog every time I saw him play out west. The rap seems to be that he was not a good locker room guy when he wasn’t getting what he wanted, which was like all the time, so he got moved as soon as somebody was willing to give up an asset for him in the hope that he’d changed. If I recall the scenario correctly, the Clippers gave him away to get rid of him, then the Cavaliers paid him to go away outright and the Knicks picked him up because he came cheap on account of Cleveland paying him a fortune to beat it. So I have deep reservations when I read some of the adoration he’s getting around here without ever playing a minute.
But I have to wonder if he is indeed the answer, then are you good with keeping some of your other guys around? If Toney Douglas and Company aren’t the answer, why not dump them all and see what you can drag in off the waiver wire? You got nothing already, so you can’t really get hurt by spinning the wheel of fortune.
You need a spot up shooter that Melo will trust absolutely. He might dish to that guy. He won’t dish to these guys. For Davis, Melo and Amare to mesh, they will have to run. Which makes D’ Antoni the coach you need. High speed offense is his game.
Anyhow, I enjoyed checking in and seeing how the other half lives. Thanks for having me. Now that the Nuggets are off the schedule— Go Knicks. And for God’s sake, run, run, run.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 AM EST reply actions
That was fucking long
That is all
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
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by gymtanlandry on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
well, ok
by and large melo is on the right side. i didn’t notice it against the nuggets. but i dunno… i have noticed that he is almost always on the right side. so i wouldn’t put too much stock in that unless it continues, i suppose.
the thing that makes baron davis potentially great for the knicks, is that he can push the tempo and find the open man. that opens the game for stoudemire and fields, both of whom can’t get in rhythm unless they are getting the ball on the move.
that in turn could open the door for melo on the back end of the shotclock. the team needs ball movement and pace. melo has been making great passes, but he’s also bringing the ball up 70% of the time. thats leading to him iso’ing too early in the shotclock, and that leads to a lack of/utter disregard for continuity.
as per the knicks role players sucking so bad. well… they suck, but not as bad as they’ve sucked. so there’s bound to be some ground made up when guys break out of slumps. we need a little bit more of everything, and it could go a long way.
but seriously, time to push the tempo. can’t wait for baron.
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Mostly agree
with what you say. I would add that you have very little invested in Davis if he doesn’t work out. If he does, you’ve gotten back some of what you gave away for Melo. My only point is that I’ll have to see it first.
Got any draft picks left? We could do you an S&T for Wilson Chandler in March.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
It's too bad
that guys like him and Chauncey get caught up in stuff. They were both happy where they were. It would be nice to see a little justice done in the world.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
K-Mart's unrestricted
The Chinese weren’t impressed but he could do some nice things for you. He’s got Melo’s respect, for one thing, and was always a guy who could make someone disappear on offense. Denver would have gone further if he had been healthy at the end of the last couple of years. Dude’s tough but not much of a shooter outside of about six feet.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
jared jeffries can't shoot outside of directly above the rim
and even then, its only a 30% shot. so that could be huge.
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K-Mart
will definitely get in people’s faces if they aren’t doing their jobs. He brings attitude, which is much of what your team is lacking—identity. The Denver team that went to the WCF had the tude and then it drained away after everybody accused them of being mean.
That alone would make him worth a shot.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
i mean
we got draft picks every other year starting in like 2017 or 18 or something.
so if you wanna wait… the management doesn’t seem to hesitate about ditching picks, but i would. i love wilson and want him back. but i have a weird feeling that the knicks will come away with at least one of the major four free agents in china (wilson, jr smith, kenyon and aaron brooks). its just as likely that they will sign with miami or the lakers or the thunder, or their old teams. or somehwhere else entirely.
davis isn’t gonna break us, but he might be good enough to clearly show how to make us. i feel like lots of players will be interested in coming here either to end their career, or use us as a springboard to another team.
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and i'd be fine with
some mope coming thru playing his ass off for a year and then bouncing.
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If it was up to me
I’d let you have him just for karmic purposes. Denver has about the same problem as you guys— no way to pay him without dropping somebody else— and the team is pretty bonded at the moment. Unless Denver’s on its way to the Finals and somebody’s hurt, I don’t expect he’ll be back.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
i dunno tough to say
wilson was always a mysterious one. dunno how much money he makes in china, but i would imagine that he’d want a lucrative contract when he comes back stateside. the guy might end up in dallas or something. i wouldn’t put it past him anyway.
i’d love to have him back tho. i miss him more than anybody from that trade.
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He's restricted
so Denver does have some say in the matter. Also, there’s apparently a question of whether this year counts as his option if he comes back in March. We could still hold his rights for 2013, but I think he’ll get the S&T treatment sicne he doesn’t like Colorado.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
has he said that?
because his body language is impossible to read.
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He's definitely a loner
but he really checked out in the OKC series when we needed him bad. The word out here was always that he wanted to be back in NYC but I can’t say anything about that personally.
Felton also looked unhappy to be here but he stayed quiet and did his job for the year. Then asked to be moved afterwards. Nobody likes it when their players express an urge to leave but I have lots of respect him for what he did while he was here.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
felton was awesome while we had him
you guys should trade andre miller for devin harris. i heard he plans to leave, and harris is on the block.
harris speed would make the nuggets even more relentless.
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I always liked JR, by the way
Incredible talent and spent the last year trying really hard to do it the coach’s way. Can play some great steal-the-ball D, hit from anywhere, human highlight reel in close. He even shoots his free throws from a foot behind the line. That’s how downtown he is. I wish we could have him back but it’s not going to happen.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
yea i like his game too
the whole nuggets overseas exodus struck me as truly odd. what’d you make of it. i mean… gallo and lawson came back obviously. but wilson, jr, kenyon… even like levin ely or someone. was there anything to that, or just a fluke?
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Special circumstances in each case
JR was in Karl’s doghouse all the time. His major problem, frankly, is that he’s certain he’s as good as Melo and tries to play one on everybody at times. When he sticks to the concept, he’s fantastic and can save 2-3 games a year when all seems lost.
K-Mart had this huge contract that finally went off the books. With his knees, he can’t command what he thought he deserved. Denver let him go for financial reasons, more than anything, and his feeligns were hurt. The fans would love to have him back, but not at what he was making previously.
You could tell from the first introduction that Wilson didn’t want to be in Denver. I think he took China to make some money. Last I heard he was averaging like 52 a game or something unreal but wants out like everybody else.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
i think he's averaging a mere 30 now
wilson though, is just an awkward guy. i wouldn’t read too much into his introduction.
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I wish he'd stay
but I just don’t get the right vibe. Nor do I know where he’d get minutes. He deserves to start and this team has no place to park him in the first five. Also, Kenneth Faried is already sitting on the bench and is going to be an incredible talent when Karl finally unleashes the Manimal. Denver would embrtacve him with open arms if he’d gives us a sign. But he doesn’t.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
you take him, no you take him!
he wants you, no you!
for a lot of reasons, i can’t wait for march to get here.
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Send him anywhere but OKC
Our only hope of catching them is if they get some injuries. My hotspot’s about to die so I’m calling it a night, guys. Nice talking with you all.
by not that me, the other me on Jan 23, 2012 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
It's Knicks fan from Poland.
First, sorry for my english.
The Knicks before the trade: 28-27, after: 20-23. Before trade, Knicks were only avarage team!!! With PG, and training camp.
Now, without PG, training camp, and half new guys on the roster, Amare playing like crap, they are avarage team. Why so blame for Melo? He loves this City and this team. He plays the best of his career. Last game he was 25-10-5 – he would be triple double, if half of his passes ended with a basket from his teammates. Why so blame on Melo?
Yes, he was 9 for 30, but Amare had 9 FG in all game and 2 OT!!! He should be one of the best PF in NBA for 100M$.
So blame Melo – trade Melo, because nobody wants Amare – he’s playing like crap, and nobody knows how long he will be playing with his knees.
Again, sorry for my english.
Hey your english is pretty compared to most of the people in the US
What you are saying is true and on point? I just wish his teammates actually scored more. Amare needs to step up and play better.
So i think we really need to maximize STAT
Stat played best offensivley at the 5 with a stretch 4. We currently don’t really have a great stretch 4 at the moment but i don’t see why we couldnt’t go small for periods and let melo be the stretch 4 along with are best shooters and see if melo and stat can find a good rhythm together
Maybe culpas
You deserve that high five, Seth.
Also, Maeby Fünke should be the response to every interview question.
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