Why it may be time for D'Antoni to say goodbye
Whenever you make a decision there are risks involved. D'Antoni took a very big risk to come to NY to coach the Knicks and frankly he has come up snake eyes.
Prior to accepting the job as the head coach of the New York Knicks, D'Antoni was considered one of the top innovative coaches in the league. His Phoenix teams played an entertaining brand of basketball and piled up the wins as well. During the 4 years he spent in Phoenix his teams averaged 58 wins a season. Really his only sin was that he could not get past the San Antonio Spurs which is no crime. The 2003-2008 Spurs will go down in history as one of the 5 greatest teams since the NBA/ABA merger.
Then he fueded with Steve Kerr and Sarver. For the record Mike D'Antoni was not fired in Phoenix, he asked to be let out of his contract. Had he chosen to, the man probably could still be coaching the Suns. How do I know that, because after Terry Porter crashed and burned trying to be the anti-D'Antoni, Kerr put former D'Antoni assistant Alvin Gentry in charge and his first order of business was to say, "let's do what D'Antoni do!" D'Antoni also could have coached the Chicago Bulls, who wanted him so bad the they hired Vinny Del Negro for no other reason than he used to be a D'Antoni assistant.
Well he came here and a coach used to winning 50 games as a matter of principle, had to endure two seasons where he lost 50 games by design. The problem with that is that while D'Antoni was never really given a chance to compete, the records still count and his reputation as a coach took a severe hit. In fact, the only thing the man had left was the fact that he was still considered a good offensive coach. In his first two seasons with the Knicks the man's teams finished 4th and 10th in points scored respectively. That is right, the Knicks were a top 10 offense with Duhon running the point and such future hall of famers as Al Harrington, David Lee, and Larry Hughes as his primary weapons. All that BS about Steve Nash made D'Antoni should blow away the minute it gets pointed out that the Knicks routinely scored over 100 points a game and finished in the top 10 in scoring with Chris Duhon running the point! D'Antoni had the 2nd best scoring offense in the league with Raymond Felton (who was considered a mediocre point guard prior to getting with D'Antoni and has been mediocre since leaving D'Antoni) running the offense. So clearly the man must know something about coaching offense as he has been able to get scrubs and borderline scrubs to score points. Well along comes Carmelo Anthony, who appears to be singlehandedly focused on taking even that last shred of dignity from that man. The Knicks average 94.3 points per game (the lowest total of any D'Antoni coached team ever! D'Antoni managed to get his Denver team to score more points and that was a team where his top four scorers missed most of the season, and he was playing a bunch of guys on 10 day contracts 30 minutes a game.
Game after game he has a team that routinely fails to do even the basic things he preaches. Spread the floor, move the ball, move yourself, find the open man. It is not so much that is offense is not working, as it is that his team is not even trying to run his offense, and appears to have turned a deaf ear to his pleading. To make things worse they are making a mockery of the man's coaching. The Knicks are one of the worst 3pt shooting teams in the league, yet they are one of the teams that shoot it the most. The coach best noted for his long diatribes against isolation offense, has a team that isos the most in the league. A coach that preaches move the ball and find the open man, has a team that is near the bottom in team assists. A coach who preaches making smart decisions with the ball and taking high percentage shots, has a team that leads the league in boneheaded play and does not see any problem launching contested jumpshot after contested jumpshot and as a result is one of the worst shooting teams in the league and one with the highest turnovers.
Now the reason he should consider handing in his resignation is, he appears to have given up. He has placed all of his eggs in the Baron Davis basket, hoping that in Davis he will have at least one person committed to playing the game the way he wants it played and that maybe he can use him to get through to the others. But a point guard can only do so much, that point guard still needs others to listen to the coach and buy into what he is teaching. I fear that all that will happen is Baron Davis will come in try to run things the way the coach wants, get frustrated and just chuck like everyone else.
D'Antoni needs to cut his losses and get out. He and he should move on and go somewhere where he can coach the game the way he wants, with an organization that will get him players that will play the way he wants. D'Antoni had that last season for 54 games. If he stays, he will never have that here again. He realized that last season. People conveniently forget that he asked for permission to talk to Golden State, Toronto, and Minnesota about their head coaching positions. You forget that all three teams asked the Knicks for permission to talk to D'Antoni and were denied. When Donnie Walsh got fed up and got out, D'Antoni tried to get out. That is why I laugh at all of you fire D'Antoni guys, he doesn't want to be here anymore than you want him here. But like he said in an interview, "I am a coach, I really do not have any other hobbies so as long as I can do that I will do it."
Do yourself a favor Mike, get out while you still have some dignity. Sacramento has a young athletic roster, Ted Leonsis has John Wall in DC, both jobs will be open, and both owners would jump at the chance to hire you. Hell I am in DC and Ernie Grunfeld all but has you hired when you get fired here. Those owners will stay out of your hair because your style is entertaining and puts asses in seats. Both teams have young athletic point guards you can mold in your image, and the GM's are clueless so they will draft whomever the hell you tell them to. Save yourself Mike. Resign!
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Okay, so if D'Antoni is fired/resigns, what next?
Woodson takes over, the Knicks get a top 5 pick, draft Harrison Barnes, and trade Carmelo for Deron Williams?
I read that Dolan will offer Rick Carlisle $8mil/year for 3 years to coach the Knicks after this season
Carlisle’s contract is up after this season as well. I’m intrigued, but skeptical as to why anyone with a shred of dignity would want to work for this organization. I guess being the highest paid coach in the league by far has got to be worth something.
The Clippers
He is going to l-o-v-e coaching the Clippers.
I really like this post, rec'd
I do feel bad for D’antoni. I think he is a good coach.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
He's gonna go to Minny and make us all look bad.
Meanwhile, next year we’ll all be calling for Mike Woodson’s head.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
i like D'antoni too
but if you dont have the respect of your team, it might be time for a change
by lets go buffalo on Jan 24, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
d'antoni with rubio would be INSANE...
though anthony randloph might literally implode.
by bucketsncents on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Also, he asked for permission to speak to those GS, Toronto, and Minnesota??
He wanted to leave..and he wanted to leave us to go to those three? We are really going to regret pushing this guy away when we end up with nobody better on our hands.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Damn
I really hope he doesn’t go but I know its inevitable. After seeing the Knicks play under D’Antoni, I have been pretty much hooked. Thats what I want to see when my team plays. I don’t want to watch gritty, defense oriented play. Its not fun. I don’t get why everyone criticizes D’Antoni’s offense when the Knicks run it, but its awesome and “winning basketball” when Miami does it.
you say his offense was awesome despite Chris Duhon running the offense of scrubs
yet you don’t think Baron Davis, a huge improvement over Duhon who would be an improvement over what we got will make that much of a difference?
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
Couldn't agree more . . .
It is CRYSTAL clear that the Knicks are not listening to one word he says and they go out and play every game like it’s an All-Star exhibition game. He is too much of a wuss to discipline our so called “stars,” but he will rip TD a new ass at every opportunity. This situation reminds me a bit like the end of the Isiah coaching era. Recall how obvious it was that the players wanted him gone and played like it?? Looks a lot like this season so far I think.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions
melo is better than d-will
WE DONT NEED D WILL IF THAT MEANS TRADING MELO I LOVE MELO AND WE STILL DO NEED HIM…HE’S NOT GOING ANYWHERE
by knicksgiantsmets on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM EST reply actions
I am not saying Fire him! I am suggesting
that if the organization isn’t going to back him and the players aren’t going to play the way he wants them to play, then for his own dignity he should tell them f____K you and walk away. Let Woodson, Ewing, Phil or whomever deal with this mess and go somewhere where he will be supported and appreciated. He doesn’t need the money, and Dolan would have to pay him anyway.
I am down here in DC and they are already drooling over getting him in here to coach John Wall.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
If he walks
Then Dolan does not have to pay him. I’m pretty sure that’s the way it works.
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
When Van Gundy walked Dolan had to pay him.
The only way Dolan does not pay him is if he were to get another coaching job before the end of the season. But really, the man is 60 and has cleared over 40 million over the last 8 years already. I am sure even if he had to leave a couple of mil in Dolan’s pocket that he would not be hurting for it. D’Antoni is not a big spender from all reports (He drives a Toyota Camry for pete’s sake) so he probably has more than enough money to live out a comfortable life as it is now.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not to belabor this
since I agree he should walk. But if you quit a job, even in the NBA, you do not continue to get paid. That is not how the system works.
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
dantoni
had a shitty record in Denver and his first year in Pho when he took over. His teams became 50+ wins when they got Nash. So yea, I think Nash made him just like he made Gentry look good his first year and they went to the WCF
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I think that's more because Amare
is gone tho….they did go to the WCF without dantoni
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
Playing D'Antoni's style tho Jason
They didn’t exactly look like world Beaters when Terry Porter was running the show now did they. I get that you don’t like the coach and that’s cool, but really let’s not ignore the facts. Also on the D’Antoni was made by Nash kick, look at Nash’s career stats before hooking up with D’Antoni and look at them after. Stats don’t lie remember, Nash was good in Dallas, D’Antoni made him great! Duhon was a scrub, D’Antoni made him serviceable. Felton is a mediocre player. I remember when we signed him the best you guys could say was, “well at least he’s better than Duhon.” Last year this time you jokers were calling for Felton to be in the all star game!. I think the record is clear, D’Antoni’s system works for any point guard who has a clue how to play the position, and picks their play up a level. Why in the hell do you think Baron Davis chose to come to play for D’Antoni instead of Miami and the Lakers. They offered him contracts. You can’t claim it was stars. The Lakers have Kobe, Gasol, and Bynum and we all know who the Heat have. So really now. Think what you wish, but the list of point guards who don’t want to play for the man still stands at two (Marbury, and Billups)
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea but we're not talking about inflated stats
here we are talking about making and advancing in the playoffs. You can have all your inflated stats that this system produces, but one thing is clear. It doesn’t produce championships, and without a Steve Nash, it won’t go far in the playoffs. This “system” makes you unaccountable for your shot selection and relies heavily on the 3 ball. And up until he was forced to obtain a Defensive coach, it didn’t make you accountable on that side of the ball either. I do agree it relies on a competent PG, and hopefully this team will improve once Baron gets here.
Nash was a very good player and PG before he came to Pho, He WAS an All Star in Dallas and on the All NBA team as well He led Dallas to back to back playoff berths. Pho payed him $60 Mil to come to Pho so he wasn’t just an avg PG. This system doesn’t work with just ANY PG or else we would be better than what we have been / are.
Baron choose NY because he knew he would be the unquestioned starter and primary ballhandler. He wouldn’t be that in Mia (James) and prob not LA either.
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
LOL! even in a D'Antoni should go post you want to argue.
You are talking about making and advancing in the playoffs? The man made the playoffs every full year he coached in PHX and made the conference finals twice. Here the first time he was given a halfway decent chance to compete he made the playoffs. And since you are a big Chandler and Gallo are scrubs guy then, D’Antoni should get massive props. By your criteria every damn coach in the league not named except Doc, Pops, and Carlisle should be fired because their systems do not produce championships. be a pretty boring league with only three teams Jason.
Really dude, you are being irrational. And to take it further, since Nash Made D’Antoni, then Nash is to blame for D’Antoni not winning championships. Since he didn’t win any before D’Antoni or after him. Secondly I said Nash was good in Dallas but he was not great, not counting his first two years in Dallas he averaged 16.4 pts and 7.7 assts. Good but not great. Even Cherry Picking his stats he was a good guard not an elite one in Dallas (his numbers were essentially the same in Dallas for his best years as Devin Harris for his best years and you would not say Harris is elite)
Here are his numbers in PHX under Pringles 17.4 pts and 11.1 assists and he scored more points while taking fewer shots in PHX. Now 17 and 11 puts you in a different discussion as a point guard than 16 and 7. 16 and 7 you are a good point guard. 17 and 11 you are a hall of fame point guard. There is a difference.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
But again your hung up on stats….
the guy was an All Star in Dallas, took them to the playoffs…no Joe Schmo off the street. Dantoni didn’t make the playoffs b4 Nash, and barely made them and got swept since Nash. No, I think many coaches that coach today have good systems and philosophies, however I don’t believe dantoni’s is a good system nor will it produce a championship, but I guess we agree to disagree there.
And for the record, I never said Chandler was a scrub, where did you get that from?? I thought you stopped putting words in people’s mouths…
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I thought you stopped changing the subject.
Like I said Nash was a better player playing in D’Antoni’s system. The facts are the facts. Not that he was bad but that he became an elite level player. Likewise the best seasons of Duhon’s career happened under D’Antoni and the best performance of Felton’s career happened under D’Antoni. Since you cannot dispute that, you go into your Berman this style does not win championships crap. Until you actually win, no coach’s system wins championships.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
again stats
but ok…
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
so you are using
magic?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
no, Nash was just as good in Dallas
He just played in a different system where he didn’t dominate the ball as much, so he had fewer assists and fewer turnovers. Those teams were successful too, even if his counting numbers were less impressive.
He played in Don Nelson's system, dominated the ball alot
and according to you Mindfeck Nelson’s system like D’Antoni’s inflates your stats!
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
saying it is a knock to MIke D
because he couldnt take a group of scrubs to the playoffs here in NYC or that his extremely depleted trade messed up team got swept as a reason for his lack of coaching skills shows all watching that you are not debating this in good faith. If he was able to do anything with those teams to meet your standards he would be considered one of the greatest coaches to ever coach the game.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Baron Davis wouldn't start over Fisher and Blake? come on now lets be credible
He wouldn’t start in Miami over Chalmers and Cole are you nuts. The corpse of Mike Bibby got to Miami last season and started from day one! If Spoelstra didn’t start Davis, Pat Riley who loves names more than anyone, would Fire his ass and take over coaching himself since obviously Spoelstra doesn’t know what he is doing!
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
But that’s not as clear cut as you would make it seem….
Baron has back issues, he would be starting the year on pine with these teams, who aren’t dying for a PG mind you like NY is. Chalmers is the starting PG, but the ball is in James’ hands most of the time as a playmaker bringing up the court. Yes Baron is more talented than these other PGs, but clearly he knows NY was struggling at this position and no matter who we had as the starter he would overtake that player as the starter.
It’s a no-brainer for someone that still believes he can play at a high level and is looking for as much PT in order to “inflate his stats” to sign another generous contract, either w/ NY or somewhere else.
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
Besides it is all a moot point. This post is about him resigning ang going to coach somewhere
else.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I agree def a moot point....
but you brought it up initially, just responding to that
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
He also made Dirk if we are going to go there.
Both Dirk and Amare have been able to tie their own shoes without Nash. But yeah Sarver thought the same thing, Remember he didn’t own the team when they drafted Amare. The guy won rookie of the year because he averaged 21 pts a game over his last 35 games that season. The next year he averaged 20.6 Those performances came without Nash. Sarver bought the hype, figured hey cut Amare loose, sign Hakim Warrick, he’s tall and can dunk, Nash will turn him into a beast too. Well…….. LOL!
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
All big men shoot significantly better when paired with a good distributer
Although since Dirk has such good range he doesn’t need a great PG as much as Amar’e does. Dirk even brought the ball up the court when Don Nelson was coach.
you missed the points and there were two
1. I was joining with Flossy’s sarcasm.
2. Pointing out that from the 2nd half of his rookie year through his second year. He essentially averaged 21 pts a game without Nash. Also before the Carmelo trade he averaged 26pts per game with the far from great Raymond Felton feeding him passes.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hey guys
It’s like this: Nash and D’antoni were a great combo. They both made each other look good because, working together, they acheived great success. The team never did win a championship, but they got awful close to going to the finals.
They may have been a bit too deficient in defense to go all the way. But Nash and Stoudemire, their two stars, clearly are not elite defenders, with our without D’antoni. So I don’t think that D’antoni’s style can’t win a championship. I think he needs a point guard who approaches Nash’s offensive skill but who also is a very good defender, and he needs a great defensive 5 playing with Amar’e.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
....and those two players are Biddy and Bison.
and for the umpteeth time…in my opinion and those of millions of others, Phoenix won the 2007 NBA championship.
it would shock me to see him go to another rebuilding situation
i would think its a playoff ready team or italy.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I hear the Wizard's need a coach...
I mean who wouldn’t want to coach Andray “I’m a superstar but really not” Blatche.
Or Nick “I shoot right away” Young
And finally Rashard “I almost fleeced Isiah” Lewis
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions
I think the time for Mike D to do that
resign with a big FU was when the Don was let go.
Now, he should wait for BD to see if he can put a little bright spot on his NYC legacy, then go off to LAC.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Yeah that clippers team's big dogs are younger than those of MDA's Phoenix team and the Clippers have something Phoenix never had to get them over the top: DeAndre Jordan.
of course that assumes the Knicks season ends up a disappointment which I dont think it will ;-)
i have a little feeling
even if it ends nice Mike D is gonna bail from us. I would have a hard time blaming him.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
That would be the Treviso story.
The Treviso story is the birth of what you guys call 7 seconds or less. When D’Antoni lost both his starting center (who was his leading scorer) and his back up Center before the Start of the season, Treviso got out of the gate 2-6 His bosses in Treviso told him he would be fired at the end of the season. So D’Antoni blew it up, went with a 3 guard line up, started his PF at Center and his SF at PF, had his team run and spread the floor. The then won 26 of their next 28 games (running people out of the gym on a regular basis. They made the Playoffs and won the league Championship. After winning the title D’Antoni’s bosses offered him a raise and a big fat contract extension. He told them to kiss his ass and quit, and took an assistant job in PHX for less money. The rest is history. But yep D’Antoni would not be above winning it all and then telling Dolan to SUCK IT!!!!!!!
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
i am curious
just cause i dont watch a ton of non-knicks games…
are blake and paul good defenders?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I think Blake is overrated
High flying, strong, great rebounder etc…
but he can’t shoot, and below avg defender.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure
if Mike wants to have an owner like Sterling after dealing with Dolan…
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think he had $6 million reasons to not resign
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Do you realize that once you factor in the difference between tax rates in AZ and NY
and the cost of living. D’antoni essentially is making the same money now as he he did in PHX. Sports is a fantasy world but sports figures still by clothes, groceries and houses in the real world, as well as pay real world taxes. Trust me when you factor in those differences there wasnt much incentive for him to come here. 4.5 mil in AZ goes alot farther than 6 mil in NY.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
you couldn't have put together a more useless paragraph Currence
fact is Pringles makes $6million this year before taxes. He’s gonna come home with a lot of dough and he’s not gonna just resign and let that money just disappear.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 25, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Why is no one talking about...
Let D’Antoni finish the season. He might turn it around. No matter anyone says… He is not by any means a bad coach…
And has anyone looked at Nash’s contract situation? Does anyone really think Nash is going to ask for double digits in the millions for salary? Nash wanted to win a championship, and probably still does. Why doesn’t anyone mention talking about keeping D’Antoni and seeing if he can turn this around and maybe…. MAYBE… Recruit Nash to run this offense for his last few years with a SMALL but necessary salaray reduction in exchange for a shot with a real championship contending team? Its not like we have to worry about Nash and Amare not getting along…
If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!
I hate talking about the fantasy land...
But I do think for the benefit of our team, that the coach needs to finish the year. And then let evaluations come in. D’Antoni started off slow last season too.
I still believe this team will still end up being a real solid contender. We will definitely see improvement that will take people by surprise.
If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!
I will give him until the All-Star break . . .
And if there isn’t a vast amount of improvement, then let the ax fall swiftly!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 25, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
he look so tired during the post-game interview. He look so frustrated and he has to be as a coach who likes to move the ball, play fast and create good shots. He hates low scoring and slow pace and this is what we have right now. For those who think Woodson is the savor, you will regret it since it will only get uglier. Be prepared for another decade of misery with overpaid players and a flawed roster. Woodson won’t solve it and Phil is not coming. I don’t want MDA to leave but, if he do, I hope he will go somewhere and else and have success. Not only that but I hope he sticks it to us the way we deserve just as any players od after they are fucked over by our owner. Just where exactly is Ewing, the legend? he is nowhere near the team. This team was destroyed by the owner, then Stern tried to reform things and save it from further humiliation and disaster yet he couldn’t do it. We thought the dark era was over but it only continues and this time with a few popular names. No cap space, no draft pick and no future. It’s so boring and will continue, unfortunately, and the problem will persist because it starts from the top of the chain. We need regime change if we want real change and revive this franchise. For gods sake, this is the New York Knicks, mecca of basketball and we can’t do what the hicks in OKC are doing or the Clippers did or the Wolves are doing? Look at Boston and LA Lakers and then look at our owner. There is no reason why we should not be on top along with them, and I mean historically. No reason for this team to be like this and we should be winning and the fans deserve better than this.
You know
when I re-read this post I feel like singing Boys II Men for some reason…..
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

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