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Knicks 111, Bobcats 78: "That felt really good."

This butt-bump happened like a dozen times. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)

Yeah. We all needed that. I and Russ in the game thread and any Knicks fan who watched that game had to feel relieved, refreshed, and just...good. The Knicks faced a team that, despite how they'd looked against New York previously, is very, very bad, and they absolutely squashed them. The offense moved, the defense rotated, rebounders rebounded, and, at least for a night, all was well. Losing streak over.

Take the jump for some quick details and individual notes.

Star-divide

- Tyson Chandler was the undisputed MVP of (the non-garbage time portion of) this game. Byron Mullens was like "hey I'm Byron I'll be your opponent today. I'm really looking forward to guarding you and competing for rebounds with you" and Tyson was like "WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME DUNKING INTO YOUR MOUTH". Chandler got every rebound on both ends and dunked every dunk and was just awesome and dominant and awesome again. Big ups to the guards for hitting Chandler with a few nice feeds and also (seriously) missing shots when he was in good rebounding position.

- Amar'e Stoudemire came alive! He did the usual thing where he misses a bad, rushed hook then picks up two fouls and heads to the bench in the first quarter. In the second, though, he got rolling as the only frontcourt starter on the floor. He and Mike Bibby connected for a few pick-and-roll feeds and finishes, and he drained an elbow jumper or two as well. Amar'e went on to misplay a couple of feeds from Iman Shumpert in the third quarter, but added more finishes in transition and on second opportunities as the game progressed. And by "finishes" I mean the type of above-the-rim, one-handed tomahawks that one typically expects from Amar'e Stoudemire. It was an immense relief to see him do that, because folks were talking like he physically couldn't do that anymore. 18 and 8 for Amar'e in 29 minutes, plus some rebounds and decent defense against Tyrus Thomas and Bismack Biyombo.

- The national story from this one is going to be that Carmelo Anthony scored only one point, and indeed he did (on a technical free throw that nearly rimmed out, at that). Melo, one game removed from his dismal yet heroic yet dismal outing against the Nuggets, blended right in to the offense. He made quick passes, fed open teammates, and pushed the ball up court off his 11 defensive rebounds. When Melo shot, it usually came off the catch following good ball movement, and when he isolated, he did so at appropriate times (like, matched up with Gerald Henderson in the high post). Despite all his good looks, Melo was still ice cold from the field-- understandable, given his sore wrist and the Wolverine claw-thing covering it-- and responded in kind: He stopped shooting! After four misses in the first quarter, he attempted (and missed) just three more shots the rest of the game. But again, he handled the ball, made snappy passes to others, ripped down boards, and just generally made his presence felt in realms other than isolation scoring. A fine one-point game.

- Yet another exceedingly Landry game from Landry Fields. He did all the Landry things you love to see him do: cutting, driving into seams, speeding ahead in transition, drawing fouls, pulling up for mid-range jumpers. Just a wonderful game. Five assists, too!

- Iman Shumpert shot 1-9, but like six of those were good looks. Kid just couldn't get a layup (or dunk) to fall. He's got a weird habit of trying to score with his off hand (left hand, middle hand) when he doesn't have to and, for whatever reason, hasn't learned how to convince the refs that the contact he's drawn constitutes a foul. That 1-9 wasn't nearly as bad as it looks, though.

- Cool pick-and-roll stuff, Mike Bibby! And good job hitting that three!

- Jared Jeffries swished two long jumpers in the first half. Elsewhere, twin fawns got separated from their mother in a bitter alpine forest. In the second half, Jeffries attempted two more long jumpers; one barely grazed the rim and the other airballed long by about seventy yards. The young fawns ambled out of the forest and back into the custody of their relieved mother. All was right with the world.

- Not very good shooting Bill Walker, but that one pass you made was cool! You know the one. The cool one.

- Toney Douglas hit some nice shots off the dribble! 4-7!

- Garbage time! Jeremy Lin did some great drive-and-kick plays and also hit some cool fading floaters! Steve Novak benefited from those kick-outs and drilled all three of his three-pointers! Renaldo Balkman did a cool dunk! And Jerome Jordan lost a defender with a pump fake and drove baseline for a dunk! Garbage time was wonderful.

- Mike Breen on Renaldo Balkman: "He's just a cool dude."

- One time Tyson Chandler slapped the ball off Toney Douglas's face and I didn't think that was cool.

- Some pleasant team stats: 50 percent shooting, 26 assists on 39 field goals. 53-33 rebounding edge, including 13 offensive rebounds. 26-33 from the free throw line. Every single active Knick played and scored.

So, you know, you don't want to read into a cruise of a win over the Bobcats too much, but the Knicks have had roughly two other wins like that this year. Certainly worth being happy about, and I am. It felt really good, and it didn't feel unnatural or flukey. The Knicks just moved the ball, hit their shots, defended, and rebounded. Basketball. On to Cleveland!

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Landry... no question...

Shump still making some pretty basic rookie mistakes. He’s get it but he don’t got it yet. Just makes our second unit stronger to have him coming off the bench anyway.

by robk on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Landry

And then Shump comes on so we still have a PG off the bench (sorry Bibby and Lin, nice games tonight but I’m not convinced yet)

by superturboultra on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not convinced either, but at least we now know that Lin is better than the D League

Maybe he deserves another shot to prove he belongs in the NBA

And Bibby is like a liferaft. He can’t give us consistent production, but if everything is just failing to move on offense maybe he can save us here and there.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

said the minutes will start very low, maybe even just 3. but with the starters.

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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is worthwhile

to have Shump continue to run the point. So I say bring him off the bench behind Baron.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

was at the game

can’t really add much to that excellent review but just a few things i took note of:

Kemba Walker is/is going to be really really, good.

Melo was fully invested even in his worst offensive night in a long time.

Amar’e was incredible, good shot selection and active D

Tyson—what else can you say

by spreeballin on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

It's so strange that everything just clicked

It’s like why haven’t we been doing this all year? It just seems so simple.

What’s been most frustrating about this streak is that we are a very talented team, but we’ve been playing so terribly. This is what happens when we play up to our ability.

Also, before people pile on Melo, I just want to note that the ball movement has generally been good in the beginning of games and Melo goes exclusively into iso later in the game when his teammates can’t hit a single shot. With Amar’e and Landry playing like Amar’e and Landry, and TD DWTDD he acted accordingly.

I’ve been saying to everyone who would listen all week that the knicks had 3 problems:
1) Amar’e’s been sucking
2) No PG
3) Landry and TD haven’t hit a shot between them

Shump was able to paper over #2 and #3 when he was going off, but when he started experiencing some rookie problems everything caved in.

Tonight Amar’e played well, we got some surprisingly good PG play out of Bibby, and Landry and TD hit their shots.

It’s weird that for some reason it came together tonight over say any other game or when Baron shows up. But I’m glad it did.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 25, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

yeah you've hit on some things here danger

and i’ve said this before, but it bears repeating since you touched on it – one of the main reasons we’re bad right now is because the key role players from last year(Landry and DWTDD) have regressed. if that’s gonna be the case, then it won’t really matter what we get from the amar’e’s and melos and davis’. teams will key on them all day and dare landry and TD to shoot. if they start going down, like they did tonight, we will be that much better. watch and see if you don’t believe.

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by wilddre22 on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't discount the role of Baron practicing

At this point, even the smell of real point guard sweat helped the Knicks immeasurably.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Or the fact that the Knicks beat a team missing 3 of their best players

And the rest was composed of rookies or marginal NBA talent

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by WSD on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Just the sort of team that was giving them fits

before the Biddysweat got all over the guys.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

But how many of those remaining were the type of players that typically have career games against these Knicks

We’ve made bad teams look good all year. We didn’t just barely scrape by, we killed them, like we should when we play right. This is the first game where we really seemed to play like we should. I don’t dismiss that.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Came together last night...

cuz we played an awful Bobcats team who on top of that are dealing with injuries. I do hope that win lets us get at least some swag back tho.

by Zhantee on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

we broke the losing streak

one day after their first practice in quite a while, and the eventual starting point guard was there to help the tone seem more meaningful.

makes perfect sense to me.

amar’e, landry and toney are not as bad as they;ve been playing, it was only a matter of time for them.

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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It was only a matter of time, but they sure took their damn sweet time getting there

I hope last night means it’s clicked for good and we play like this from now on.

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Huge compliments to you Seth by the way

I am a mild supporter of the Knicks since I like Carmelo and Chandler, but honestly, I just love to read your recaps. These things are great.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

beyond great

hits my funny bone everytime.

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I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
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by wilddre22 on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

His recaps certainly are legendary! <3 Seth!

Good luck tomorrow! (except not really, because I want us to win!)

by DonMoosavi on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Watching the late night replay...

…and considering how shitty they’ve been, a lot of good signs for the Knicks. With all the bad home losses, tomorrow night’s game is huge possible win because, assuming a loss against Miami, it sets up the Houston game as a chance to go 3-1 on the road. They aren’t ready to beat Miami yet, but a win at Cleveland, a decent showing in Miami and a win in Texas would be exactly what they need.

So tomorrow’s night’s game is a big deal for the diehards. Especially since Cavs almost beat Miami tonight…or were close. Then again, we know how they did against Cleveland last year…

by patstarks3 on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 AM EST reply actions  

i tried to stay awake for the replay

no go…snooze city, more than glad to have this recap though, thks guys!

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

First game all year I didn't watch.

Went out clubbin’! I guess this means I can’t watch for the rest of the year. Kinda sucks, but I’ll take one for the team.

by tkow on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 AM EST reply actions  

I had a rehearsal the whole time

I also feel hesitant to watch tonight but I probably will

Don’t stone me

by jlaw on Jan 25, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Amar'e was a legit shutdown defender in this game

I mean..Bismack Biyombo’s post game still has a ways to go, but Amar’e defended every single move damn-near flawlessly, and Biyombo didn’t hit any of his 5 shots. I’m also looking at 1-9 from Tyrus Thomas and 1-6 from Boris Diaw. I counted one mistake out on the perimeter where he got confused on a switch and Najera got left open for a 3 pointer. I don’t know if he’s been working on his defense specifically or not, but I do believe that this was the best defensive game of Amar’e’s career.

by BJabs on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 AM EST reply actions  

I'm disappointed

We pay Melo to score not rebound and pass...

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

That was the sarcasm font, my friend

I’ll take the one point performances if we keep winning. Looks like Melo actually meant what he said.

New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants

by moose35 on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to those not familiar

but yes that is the sarcasm font….

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i shouldve known by the text

its too early in the morning for me, wake me when its 2 in the afternoon…

by blackhova on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

dantoni

really needs to get Novak more PT. He is probably the best pure shooter on the team. Hopefully Lin can get some burn going forward too

You just got Tysoned!!!!!!

by Jason Bee on Jan 25, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

I know he has probably missed a few...

but every game ive watched when he has gotten some burn, he hasnt missed a shot.

by Renegade11 on Jan 25, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I think that Novak at the 4 (getting Jorts’ minutes) is probably a defensive liability but the guy is a weapon.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Been calling for more Stevey all season

Dude would be great as a stretch 4, especially if you put Amar’e at center. Also, his D wasn’t bad at all. Certainly passable

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by WSD on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

LOOK OUT CLEVELAND

storm is coming through…..and its runnin’ right up on youuuuuuuu

by total hermination on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

WHATCHA GONNA DO, WHATCHA GONNA DO BROTHER, WHEN KNICKAMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU!

WELL YA KNOW SOMETHING CLYDE, THE CAVS BETTER TRAIN, SAY THEIR PRAYERS, AND TAKE THEIR VITAMINS BECAUSE WE’LL MAKE YOU’RE SPLEEN SCREAM AND YOUR LIVER QUIVER. WHEN THEY SEE AMARES 24 INCH PYTHONS, THE LARGEST ARMS IN THE WORLD, THEY’LL KNOW THIS IS WHERE THE POWER LIES!!!!!

by Jeff Van Gumby on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

only 10?

I was really disappointed to see that we don’t play Cleveland and Houston back to back, for obvious reasons. If only the Miami and Houston games were switched!! would have been an epic post

by total hermination on Jan 25, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Carmelo

So it’s supposed to be a coincidence that the Knicks finally played a decent game on a night when Carmelo wasn’t gumming up the offense?

by jimwindolf on Jan 25, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

I'll take Melo's 1pt everytime if it meant we win like that

but Melo’s rebounds and assists helped us win that game handily

to INDY!

by 27Tango on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Those weren't misses

They were passes off the rim to Tyson

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

another cool thing that happened in last nights game

Tyson went up for a turn around chest bump (back bump) that sent Bibby flying into a group of bench players who had to keep him from falling down

it might have been the immediate aftermath of the picture for this thread, and it was awesome

by spreeballin on Jan 25, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

scratch that

Tyson has his warmups on in this one so it must have been later in the game, but it happened, I swear!

by spreeballin on Jan 25, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so many times!

it’s making bibby endearing. that and the fact that he finally put a sweatband back on. oh—- and the play of late doesn’t hurt.

did you notice the butt-bump that came after jerome jordan dunked a put-back pretty damn hard that was waved off? it might be the one above. bibby hit tchandler with a towel and gave him a ‘hey i think that’s worth one too! whaddaya say?’ grin and then the bump. it was pretty sweet.

by old 34 on Jan 25, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

melo has his hand wrapped up

thats garbage time right there.

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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

might need to wipe that later.

i could just use this toilet paper on my hand tho, it is what it is.

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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only am I very happy with Melo for not chucking because other guys made some shots...

But big props to TD for using a screen as a means to get himself into the lane, and not taking two dribbles and then stopping to look to pass.

by Crackback on Jan 25, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

I missed the game but love the result

I think we all knew that when everyone buys into a moving offense, good things will happen. I’m pretty proud that Melo (at least for one game) stepped back and was a real playmaker.

Of course it goes without saying that in the long run, we DO want him taking more than 7 shots a game. But the point is that it sounded like he didn’t force the offense. He played within it. I hate the flack that people will inevitably lay on him for scoring “only” 1 point and they will make it sound like he had a bad game. Surface fans. But I DO hope Melo continues to play this role and find a shot medium (between 7 and 30, ideally in the mid-teens, lol!).
stingy d pointed out how the Knicks actually had a full practice and he wasn’t surprised so much by this effort. I whole heartedly agree with that. I’d love for this game (and tonights Cleveland game) to be the beginnings of a good long run. i have good feelings.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 25, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

totally

it reinforces for melo (or at least it should) the idea that there’s more than one way to win games. get the team involved and they might just carry one in convincing fashion. its not gonna be a overnight change for him. but with repetition and wins- melo and amar’e averaging 15-18 shots a game will seem natural. and it will just come off good looks. and they’ll both be hitting for 25+ points.

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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  


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