Carmelo Anthony's One-Point Company
by Seth on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM EST
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PrintCarmelo Anthony's single-point outing last night felt pretty unusual, so I waddled over to Basketball Reference to see how often in history his feat had been matched. I defined "his feat" as:
- One point scored (and, therefore, no field goals made)
- Started and played 30+ minutes (Melo played 29:38, so other guys in this club might look down on him, but oh well. Changing it to 29+ minutes a game doesn't add any names and makes me twitch, so we're rounding up.)
- The player's team won the game
- Only one free throw attempted (i.e. No shooting fouls drawn. The only attempt and point was a technical free throw. There's no other way a guy could attempt just a single free throw without hitting any field goals, right?)
That last qualification is the big eliminator, because plenty of folks have done all of the above while taking multiple free throws but only converting one of them. These are guys who started, played starter's minutes, won the game, and scored exactly one point on a technical free throw without even attempting other free throws. Take the jump for the monumentally important list.
The list, from most to least recent:
Carmelo Anthony, New York (2012, 7 field goals attempted)
Jason Kidd, Dallas (2011, 4 FGA)
Damon Stoudamire, Portland (2002, 6 FGA)
Doug Christie, Sacramento (2002, 3 FG)
Bryant Stith, Boston (2001, 5 FGA)
Dennis Rodman, Dallas (2000, 1 FGA)
Damon Stoudamire, Portland (1998, 6 FGA)
Chuck Person, San Antonio (1998, 9 FGA)
Dikembe Mutombo, Denver (1994, 1 FGA)
Chris Dudley, New Jersey (1993, 4 FGA)
John Stockton, Utah (1990, 8 FGA)
That list mostly makes sense. Those are mainly good free throw shooters who, like Melo, would be called upon to shoot a free throw in a technical situation. What Dennis Rodman and Dikembe Mutombo are doing on that list, I have no idea (Update: Check the comments. Good theory.). A couple folks bested Melo's rebounding and assisting numbers during their one-point outings, and a few attempted more shots, and one man (Stoudamire) did it twice, but, to Melo's credit, nobody on that list even comes close to his season's scoring average. I feel comfortable now saying that Carmelo Anthony is the best scorer to ever score one point in a game that he started and played 30 or more minutes of while attempting only a single free throw, or at least he's the best to do it since B-Ref has been keeping data. Congratulations, Melo!
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by Lord Smackington on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Also
Let’s hope Melo takes this as a hint that the team around him is good enough to win basketball games without him trying to go beast-mode every night. If the shot isn’t falling, chill out and contribute in other areas. He’s talented enough to do that.
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I hope so too
unfortunately we don’t play Charlotte every night and he may feel compelled to revert back again, especially against a team that plays better D
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I think melo was makinga statement. After being killed fire his recent shot selection he choose to look fire his shot last instead of first or second. I’m glad it worked out this way because like u just said. Even though it was againsta bad team without their top two guys. It proves that with movement and team play add can play great amd other guys will make shots.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Holy shit!
Damon Stoudamire did it twice! I always thought he was underrated.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
And you were right!
He was extremely underrated for his ability to only score 1 point on a FT and still have his team win!
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Chuck Person?
Nice try, slipping imaginary people onto this list. Not fooled.
and dennis rodman
putting aliens on the list is also unfair.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
I thought
he was putting Melo down twice….
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"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I always enjoyed Scott Player while playing madden
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by Thelonious Dunk on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
The Rifleman was at the end of his career so that 1 point night is not so shocking
We are talking about a season where he only averaged 6pts a game.
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn't you also have made the list by having the same stats and making one out of two free throws...
as opposed to the technical?
by Jeff Van Gumby on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM EST reply actions
Were there ever any Flagrant Foul rules
that would have a player who had a foul committed against him shooting just one FT?
i think you get 2 free throws
that might not have always been the case tho. the flagrant foul call came about in the early 90’s. and has definitely undergone changes and tinkering and whatnot.
i’m not certain about its particulars tho.
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Yea I basically remember
the rules on it changing, but dont’ remember what the FT related parts were previously either.
Awesome
And here, my friends, is why it is great that Seth is finally done with college. Who could possibly have completed this task if they had anything else whatsoever to do?
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by Bernard King's Game Face on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions
Wow
seriously… Briant Stith was playing in 2001? I remember that dude on the 94 Nugs team… Laphonse Ellis and Mutombo were the absolute shiznit in NBA Jams. They blocked every shot, shoved the ball handler over every time, and ellis could hit the corner 3. It was unfair
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions
other ways of getting 1 FTA
mutombo rodman and dudley—
almost definitely were fouled trying to offensive rebound a made shot.
It's quite likely that Mike D'Antoni will accomplish something that Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, and Isiah Thomas couldn't do: Win a playoff game. So, obviously, small ball doesn't work.
by crazyeyes on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
What about
a ‘clear path to the basket’ foul? Doesn’t the foulee get one shot and his team inbounds the ball?
Get The Frickin' Rebound
clear path foul is too recent
with the exception of kidd i don’t think any of them ever played with such a foul.
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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What shocks me is that Kidd did it only once
there were tons of games especially early in his career where it was not uncommon for him to score like 4 pts and have 15 assists. So I figured that he had a couple 1pt and like 20 assist performances.
Well, again,
there were nights when the player didn’t even attempt multiple free throws. If you eliminate that factor, a LOT of names come up.
no extra notice for chris dudley...
seems odd around these parts.
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The fact that Chris Dudley actually scored a point meant he was having a career night!
by Robert Curre on Jan 25, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
and he was probably supposed to miss intentionally
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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dudley must have had that one free throw on a offensive rebound foul
No way Dudley would ever be intentionally picked to shoot a technical. Dude was the worst free throw shooter I ever saw.
But remember in that one playoff game in ’99, I think, against the Pacers he hit two, and it was like, the most awesome adrenaline rush morale boost I ever saw occur. That was a great moment.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
well, he never backed down from a challenge
just ask shaq
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there's also the rare occasion when
a free throw is awarded and the opposing coach gets to pick a player off the bench to shoot the shot.
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by stingy d on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think for that to happen, the player that is fouled would have to make the shot but then is injured and unable to come back into the game. The opposing coach chooses a player to prevent anybody from faking an injury to get a better shooter to take the shot.
i feel like there's another time when it can happen??
but i can’ call it. so unless someone knows that occasion- i guess you right, you right.
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i actually remember it specifically occuring w/ dudley just w/ 2 shots not 1
dudley was on the suns i believe and shawn marion got hurt while landing going for a rebound attempt that he got fouled on. the opposing coach had dudley shoot the free throws and incredibly he hit both. i remember 2 fans in the front rows going absolutely bonkers over it. my memory of this is mainly due to the fact that it was so hilarious
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
and my memory in fact serves me correct
i found a newspaper article discussing this very occurrence http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1915&dat=20010226&id=mMlGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4PgMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5720,5137190
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
how about
the ultra rare occasion when a player injures himself in the act of making his first free throw, and has to come out
I do recall . . .
Long, long ago where this did indeed occur. I can’t remember who we were playing or who got injured but whoever it happened to was physically unable to shoot the technical. I believe the player was taken directly to the training room for X-rays or something. Of course, any coach in their right mind would choose Dudley, and they did. Of course he bricked it. Anyone remember that game and more details??
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 25, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
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