Probably No Baron Davis on Friday, Maybe Saturday?
by Seth on Jan 26, 2012 12:16 PM EST
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PrintI don't think anybody's expecting much from Baron Davis in his first few games, but just a glimpse of the guy-- a cool layup, a fancy pass, a confident beard stroke-- would really help break up the early season monotony we've been witnessing. There was fleeting hope that he'd make a cameo last night against his old team, but no such luck. And the next one's not sounding to promising either. From Al Iannazzone:
"It’s just a matter of when I can get over that last bit of soreness, that last bit of pain, and continue to get stronger, being able to push for an extended period of time," Davis said. "Right now I can go in spurts. I’m just not comfortable mentally or physically out there."
Friday in Miami — a nationally televised game — remains doubtful with a possible return Saturday in Houston. But there’s no guarantees Davis is in or out for any game on the trip.
"It might be a little much," coach Mike D’Antoni said of Davis facing the Heat. "I’ll talk to the medical staff. Might not be the best game to do it, but we’ll see.’’
Yeah, it's best that he take his time. We can be patient. I'll just grin creepily at this video of him talking about being tired and out of shape again. Patient as a...puma. No need to rush.
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How about now?
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i want him to play when hes ready
not when hes 50, 60 or 70%…
by blackhova on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey Baron, no pressure
We just want to know how soon you think it’ll be possible to come in and totally kill it and make this team play like they don’t pass around a can of paint thinner after shoot-around and basically deliver this franchise from the depths of yet another over-hyped and disappointing season/roster. You up for that buddy? How’s that back? Ha ha, you kidder, we know you were just joshin’ about that whole thing. So what are you up to this weekend, feel like doing a little season-savin’? Really, no big deal, maybe just a national televised game against a team that made the finals last year, sounds like a good time, right? Eh? No? No worries, maybe a little Texas-style domination of the Rockets is more your speed, maybe just dial up a performance that makes millions of ledge-perching Knicks fans believe in the sport of basketball again? Eh? Hello? Baron? BARON?!
by flossy on Jan 26, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Just the fact that . . .
in order to even salvage this season, we are counting on an old, bad back Baron Davis really makes me want to cry :-(
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well at least he brings an extra beard back
I was very concerned after Mr turiafs departure that chandler would not be able to capture the art of beardocity. BUT the baron and chandler combo platter may be strong enough.
i think Chandler's beard is filling in quite nicely.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 26, 2012 1:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i'm going to the game on saturday
kinda hope its the debut, though they need him ASAP
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 26, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions
This team has been extremely hard to watch
Baron is the key if this team has any hope of turning their season around. Get his crippled ass on the court D’Antoni, you can’t take no for an answer at this point
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions
i have a better idea!
lets break his back and let him play using one of those souped up elderly scooter thingys, completely pimped out by those guys xzibit hangs with!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 26, 2012 1:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
In the worst case scenerio
I’d be fine with that
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 26, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Douglas is the worst PG in the league
Still baffles me that he has a job and Arenas and Iverson are unemployed
by Guess Who's Back? on Jan 26, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Although I like him off the bench till the Taiwanese Terror gets over his yips when playing with the big kids.
by I know smart people on Jan 26, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
yea i guess
wen baron comes back and saves us (hopefully, please?) shumpert will be off the bench and toney outta the rotation i hope
I'd like to see Shumpert go to the starting 2
And have TD and Laundry off the bench till Lin is ready to take over for TD.
by I know smart people on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
The problem with Shump at shooting guard
Is that he’s historically not very good at shooting. I’d rather see Landry or Toney at the starting 2. Those guys have proven over a full season that they can shoot in the mid forties / mid thirties from 3. Shump hasn’t shown that yet.
I think Shump’s best as a backup at the point right now.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Agreed...
I think Shump is still getting used the NBA game and really shouldn’t be starting. He’s got loads of potential but there are times where I just want somebody to take him aside and say “hey man you realize this is the NBA, right? You can’t do what you just did”.
Good point plus his shot
Selection can be a bit questionable at times. I just like having the ability for both guards to make the right pass at any time to STAT, Melo or Chandler. I do like the idea of Lin getting more spin on the 2 nd unit. More so if the addition of Davis does not solve the Melo ball stop issues.
by I know smart people on Jan 26, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure Lin is just a token player
Designed to generate ticket sales. He’s not NBA good.
He was voted one of the top 8 influential Asian American
Athletes. So you may be right and which I think is kind of funny. But I think he has the skills to be a strong bench player.
by I know smart people on Jan 26, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Call me one of Lin's Legions
New York Chapter
by I know smart people on Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
It just seems inconceivable
that Lin could be worse at point guard than Toney Douglas.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
The Warriors apparently used him that way at least a little
Who cares? we need a backup PG and he’s more of an NBA Point than TD
his defense is worth it
and it lets Landry play a bigger role in the second unit, he probably shouldn’t be a starter
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
yo dawg
i hear you need some ball movement. so I put an scooter in your pointguard so he can move while he passes.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
what harm would 5 minutes each half do?
really? Even Eddy Curry could handle that
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
"Early season monotony"
is quite a kind way to put it.
Can't believe I'm at this point. But I'm not that interested in giving D'Antoni any more time.
All last night I kept thinking about the triangle and how sweet it would be with tyson, amare and anyone or tyson, melo and anyone. Why can’t D’Antoni draw up a friggin play that puts our guys in a good position. I’ve been his biggest defender and want to believe that Baron will save the day but this guy is driving me mad and doesn’t look like he’s got any fight left. If he’s so pissed about the Melo trade maybe he should go work for Karl ’cause this is driving me nuts. I mean if we had a hard ass in there like Collins these guys would at least look afraid to suck. They barely even look like pros.
Did anyone else notice this in the Cavs game??
I did not notice this while watching the Cavs game, but I read this in an article today:
“With New York trailing 52-51, ‘Melo streaked down-court off a Cleveland miss. Iman Shumpert was trying to push the ball up the floor, and for just a split second could have hit Anthony for a layup, but the rookie either never saw him or was unwilling to risk a turnover.”
“Shockingly, instead of finishing the play, ‘Melo threw his arms up in disgust and turned his back on the action. Shumpert, who had by then driven into the lane, tried to set up an open Anthony in the corner, but the flat-footed #7 had not yet recovered from his hissy fit, and the ball sailed out of bounds.”
That scares the hell out of me that the frustration level is already out of control and my worst fear is that the Knicks start fighting among themselves. Once that starts, then all hope is gone. This incident is of great concern to me, anyone notice it when it happened?
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions
Didn't see the game, so this isn't the post you're waiting for
But if that’s happening on the court, chances are it’s already started. Could be too late.
However, no reason to believe a little in-fighting can’t help light a fire, or couldn’t ever be solved. I know this isn’t how it works, but these Knicks aren’t your average bears.
That said, I’m very surprised by my own optimism.
ACtually, even more likely
Melo always throws hissy fits, and it has little to do with anybody else. Part of my argument against getting him last year is that he’s a fucking baby. He pouts on the court.
True, but to turn your back on the action . . .
Is really more than a “hissy fit,” it is flat out quitting on your team! It’s crap like that which makes me think that these guys will never be able to play together and we are totally and helplessly SCREWED for a long time.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
He has to sit.
For being injured, for being a baby, for playing like shit, for disrespecting teammates, who cares. He needs some time on the bench.
Yeah but . . .
That would take a coach with some gonads … and … well … need I really say it?
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Can you stop making a mountain out of a molehill?
So he pouted on ONE play gone in a 48 minute game. Big fucking deal. What you should have been worried about is that after Landry Fields came to sit on the bench while Melo was sitting next to him….Melo didn’t offer him a cup of lemonade!!!! THIS WORRIES ME!!!!
Yeap, I noticed that
I think the turnover was partly Shump’s part but he missed Melo baaaadly in transition.
Also, it’s good to link the post if you’re gonna quote something.
I didn't know if it was ok to post links . . .
So I am glad it’s cool because this is a very interesting read. Check it out:
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
That turnover was definitely Shumps fault...
I remember that play and I was like “Shump…..Shump….SHUMP…..Pass the Fing ball to Melo!!!!!” and he didn’t. I didn’t see any arms being thrown in the air or Melo doing anything but make a right turn to head to the right corner cause if he didn’t he would’ve ended up in the 5th row. The pass Shump did end up making was a perfect pass to an empty folding chair. Maybe Melo was flat footed but the pass was 12 feet off the mark anyway so it didn’t matter: there was no way he was going to make it there let alone make a play off that pass.
But of course all the “Knick fans” here that love to denigrate our best player take it as an act of disrespect, being a baby, and playing like shit. Really guys? Maybe he was just pissed that he has nobody to pass him the ball. The key to this entire abysmal mess of a first quarter of the season is PG play….period.
I wish there was . . .
A little video of that play because I would love to watch it and see what the hell happened!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I'd re watch it...
But I purged my dvr of that game as soon as possible!!!!
I don't blame you . . .
Because the Knicks can erase your other recordings the same way all their basketball skills were erased once they became Knicks.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest...
As much as I thought the whole “Jeremy Lin might be our savior” hypothesis was crap, at this point I’d make our Pg rotation Baron, Bibby, and Lin. Shump and TD can’t do it. Have them play off the bench at the 2.
We can only wish . . .
That Dantoni would reach down, grab his gonads, and do something radical like that to shake shit up. I think he should put all the Knick’s names in a hat, and then Balkman gets to reach in the hat, and the first five names he pulls out starts that night. Seriously, that would be cool to try, can’t do worse right. We will call it the “Name In The Hat Offense.” It will spread around the league like the pick and roll and give and go!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Dude! That just might work....
Why not? Sounds very Phil Jackson/ zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance ish. What’s the worst that could happen? We lose? No problem, doing that anyway.
I thought so too . . .
Each player would have the same chance at starting every game, thus eliminating any jealousy among each other. Every one would have to be ready at all times because you never know when your name might get drawn! There would be no more individuals or egos, every one is a mere little piece of white paper. And we the fans would have tons of fun watching Jeffries start at the one spot :-)
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said, I didn't see the game
But I did feel all of those things about Melo before this, so yeah, here we are. And while he could be argued as our best player, he can also be argued as our biggest problem. I’m not getting into an argument with you, and I doubt you’re interested in one either. I’m definitely a Knicks Fan, no quotation marks necessary, and I think Melo needs to shape up or ship out.
I feel the same way . . .
I definitely want Melo to succeed as a Knickerbocker, but if our leader and captain is throwing his hands in the air and turning away from the action on the court, then it sure does speak volumes about the level of frustration on this team. Kind of feels like a volcano brewing underneath the ground, building up enough pressure and then BANG it erupts. Our eruption feels like it may happen soon, scary stuff!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Remember very early this season . . .
When Amare was talking to Jorts with reporters around and Amare said “we are going hunting in South Beach.” Why do I have this bad feeling that it made it’s way to the Heat locker room and they are going to kick the living shit out of us?? I hope I am wrong . . .
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions
I just think...
It’s time to go hunting in South Beach…. Although the arena is actually in downtown Miami….you get my point!
South Beach or Downtown . . .
Wherever it is, let’s hope that the Knick’s team bus can’t find the arena and the game gets rescheduled until 2030.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
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