Yo! Mike D'Antoni Raps Kinda
by Seth on Jan 26, 2012 4:57 PM EST
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PrintThe main purpose of this post is to direct you to Alan Hahn's newest "Knicks Fix" (now over at MSG), but it's also here to showcase the impeccable flow of one Mike D'Antoni. Here he is spitting about, well, flow, actually:
"That's what we have to do and we're not doing it all the time. And then because we can't score points, every little thing is magnified . . . We have to open our offense up, we gotta run, we gotta move the ball and we gotta go. We gotta go. It's gotta move, it's gotta flow. And right now we can't get the flow."
You can witness the rhymes at about 1:07 of the linked video. It's a stretch, but if I can't find ways to distract myself from the Knicks' on-court product right now, I'm gonna lose my mind and start snatching schoolchildren.
But...uh...anyway, the section on the Knicks' offensive struggles is worth a look, as is Hahn's bit about New York's three-point shooting. He, like many of us, figures that letting Steve Novak spin might at least be worth a shot. Couldn't possibly hurt.
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Are you really old enough to remember
Yo! MTV Raps?
I find that hard to believe.
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Jan 26, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions
wait wait wait
What’d it say?
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
MSG videos refuse to load for me...
Am I the only one?
It would have been better if Dan D'Antoni was behind him going "Uh huh" and "Yeah" after each rhyme
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 26, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
And Herb Wiliams scowling at the camera with his arms crossed, being grinded on by a couple fine ladies. Herb don’t even notice.
For a second, while typing that, I completely forgot about the Knicks and their struggles…and I appreciated it.
So, I guess it’s come to this…the point where we all need some escapism from our escapist past time as Knicks fans.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 26, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
they could go on tour with jd and the straight shot!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 26, 2012 6:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
any collected school children should be auditioned for pg immediately!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 26, 2012 6:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
DJ CLUE!!
NEW SHIT!
MIKE D’ANTONI!!
DESERT STORM!!
OOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEE!!!
by total hermination on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
need somebody on the 1s and 2, though. Hmmm.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
we traded all our ones and twos
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Lin Trip-Dub Vs. Heat
I CALLIN’ IT
Also:
Novak 7-8 from three!
Eddy Curry, 27 pts, 4 rebounds, one shoving match with Chandler.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
by fuhry on Jan 26, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
if he was stealing his Now N Laters he would!
http://twitter.com/#!/WallaceNBA_ESPN/status/146356731012849664
Now we know…later.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 26, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
You know what....
This Miami game is gonna be fun…
Anything is possible . . .
Tomorrow night. The Heat could spank the living crap out of us and win by 40 points. The Knicks could actually show some effort and pride and win the game. Seriously, I have NO clue which team will show up for us tomorrow night. I am scared as hell that we are going to get absolutely embarrasingly SPANKED on national tv though :-(
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions
I really hope they get back their flow...
You know, if they’re going to lose, at least go out playing BASKETBALL, right?
by superturboultra on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
The Heat could beat us by 50 points
I think they are looking for revenge for a few losses last season. And the thing about the Heat is that they are beatable but when they get rolling and up by a lot and confident they will start in with all the triple touch pass alley oops and shit and it could get ugly.
Then again the Knicks could win. Stranger things have happened. No Wade, right? On the other hand we are without Jorts.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Is it wrong that I kind of want the Knicks to get taken to the woodshed tonight?
I hate the Heat as much as anyone, but hear me out. The core problem with this team seems to be their impression that playing disciplined, cohesive team basketball is not that important because they are super talented and can turn it on at any time. Thus we get games against “lesser” competition that are more or less totally phoned-in, and what short periods of ball-movement and good defense we display give way to stupid ISOs and lazy switching. I get the sense that losing to the Bucks or Cavs doesn’t really seem to “count” in the minds of our stars because, hey, it’s not like we were even trying that hard or whatever.
But they definitely will get up to play the Heat, and will probably come in with some undeserved confidence having beat them last season. In a way, I think it would be good for the long term prospects of the team if we got brutally stomped on tonight, as a nice big wake-up call that talent alone is not going to put us in the upper echelon of NBA teams.
This assumes the possibility of accountability to themselves
If they’re making those excuses before why wouldn’t they continue to do so? i.e. Oh, Melo was hurt, this shit doesn’t count, either. I’m not sure negative reinforcement works with the self-deluded.
If getting humiliated on national TV by their purported rivals doesn't prompt a look in the mirror
what will? I mean, these are prideful dudes. Getting shit on in public by some of the only players in the NBA they probably see as “legitimate” competition has to feel difference than letting Boris Diaw drop 25 on you on a Tuesday night in Charlotte ’cause like, defense rotations are a bitch, man.
We may have a shot then
Hopefully maybe we are working on a trade.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
What team wants anyone from this currently toxic roster?
They’ve got their own fan bases to placate, not the Knicks’
Baron also sitting out
So no, I’d say no shot.
That might be what the team needs
featuring Amare requires ball movement, get the Knicks back into that mindset and then plug Melo in. Two games isn’t enough to really get there, but putting five guys on the floor at once who’ll share the ball will be an interesting experiment.
I agree up to where you say "plug in Melo"
You plug him in and you pull the plug on the offensive ball movement.
Sorry that was an over use of the “plug” theme…but u know what I mean.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
But we still have the worst backcourt in the league
It’s all well and good to share the ball, but Toney Douglas should be sharing nothing but the end of the bench right now. I don’t see a 1-2-3 of Shumpert, Fields and Walker being the salve that heals our ball movement woes, but who knows.
We’ll probably get our doors blown off like we did without Melo in OKC, but worse because Miami is a better defensive team who are going to want to rub it in.
We really ought to play...
Bibby and Lin at the point in relatively big minutes and have Shumpert play more 2 guard. His decision making has been abysmal but we need him on the floor for his D. At least those guys are point guards.
We’ll see. I might have to miss the game tonight unfortunately.
I so agree with this
I hope that this is the night D’antoni just says ‘fuck it’ and spins Lin.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
it's fuckin' weird, the worse they play, the more obsessed with them i get...
and it’s driving me (and my wife) nuts.
and even if they win tomorrow (yeah, pipe dreams i know), it won’t do a thing to my confidence int them, and that sucks.
GET A GRIP
You’re sounding like a Nets fan.
you mean knicks fan?
the nets beat the sixers yesterday, we lost to the cavs.
by bucketsncents on Jan 26, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but...
The Knicks have mountains more potential than the Nets. We have Carmelo Anthony, STAT, and Tyson Chandler. Soon Baron Davis will be in uniform, albeit not at even 50% of what he was last year until he heals completely (which may not happen with the grind of a shortened season) – think of him as an average starter now. If he comes back and becomes the missing piece the Knicks need, the rest of the NBA will need to watch out. The Nets have a major trade to make just to get to the point we’re at now.
by superturboultra on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
I am staying awake until all hours of the night pouring over every statistic and article. Then when I finally do go to bed, I just lay there, unable to sleep because my mind is constantly thinking about how to fix the Knicks. It’s pathetic I know. I guess what makes this years disappointments worse than all the past years disappointments is that we actually have the potential for a change and aren’t utilizing it at all. That just frustrates the living hell out of me! ARRRRRGHHH!!!!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
not sure if going through the roster over and over is relaxing...
or maddening… which i guess makes it maddening.
damn i wish there were a roster change, at least just for a little peace of mind. we currently smell of hopeless.
i just want a team of tysons, landry’s, shumps and harrellson’s… i just want guys i like rooting for, even if they’re losing.
by bucketsncents on Jan 26, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well said . . .
Obviously being Knick fans, we are accustomed to the proper etiquette on losing. We are pros, experts, and we can lose with our eyes closed.
As you point out, with all our other losing teams in the past, we at least enjoyed the game and had a little chuckle whenever the Knicks would tease us at the end by leading the whole game and then losing at the buzzer.
Those Knick teams were some real knee slappers because they ocassionally overachieved and won a game, they were some real hoots!
This current squad of Kickerbockers however are an entirely different beast. For the first time in what feels like a century, this team supposedly possessed something the teams of Knicks past lacked. This can be summed up in one word: POTENTIAL.
That is what is making me insane!! For the first time in a LONG time we actually get some good players and the second they joined our team they lost all knowledge of the game of basketball. I think Dolan has some advanced, alien, mind erasing device. That really is the only answer.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
i'm starting to wonder if the dolan years are actually jinxed...
like you say, players come to us and start stinking… while others leave and we miss what they bring to their new uniform (gallo, chandler, felton, moz, ariza, quentin, duhon, shawne, kurt, camby, crawford, lee… and shit, i even miss having eddy curry to make fun of).
uggh… please dolan, sell the team and give us posters and toasters something to truly cheer about.
by bucketsncents on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
I really think my Dolan voodoo doll idea has got a chance to work
If large enough numbers of fans show up at the games with voodoo dolls fashioned on JD he might just get spooked enough to sell the team. Especially if people start dismembering them and throwing the pieces onto the court. Seth, you could have a design contest and if we could track down his barber and get some hair, well who knows what could happen.
If anyone has a better idea I would like to hear it.
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
tough to sneak those into the garden
maybe an inflatable one.
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
Probably...but
it goes back further than that. I mean the Knicks havent won a championship since many of us were even born!!! back in the 70’s!! That predates Dolan.
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
Branch Rickey once said
“Luck is the residue of design”.
I just think there have been a lot of poor decisions made in the Dolan era. I don’t think you call that a ‘Jinx’.
BUT I do think that the Knicks have been jinxed ever since they changed their uniforms to their current model. Allan Houston’s knee immediately died and it’s been nothing but glimmers of hope dashed since then! We may have purged the jinx from the away uniforms but the homes still have it.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
"Luck is the residue of design"
Dolan’s just an idiot. Jinx? It’s the uniforms, people.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Dolan is a loser
He has built an organization that personifies his qualities. Bloated, paranoid dysfunctional. He rejects everything normal and of quality (Walsh and soon MDA and probably STAT) for the dysfunctional and hyperbolic (Thomas, Marbury, Melo). He’s the classic dry drunk spoiled brat and he holds a team we love in the fatty sweating palm of one hand while he stuffs a tuna fish sandwich in his mouth with the other.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yo MDA Raps!
He, Shump and Jorts should form a group. Obviously Balkman would be the producer
KNICKS NOW
http://nyknicksnow.blogspot.com/ - check it out!
Well we all know MELO isn't producing!
Jokes! Levity! Yeah.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Jan 26, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Check out this Alan Hahn tweet . . .
He is right of course and it is kind of sad that the Knicks have forced their fans into becoming raving maniacs and the butt of jokes for the rest of the NBA.
alanhahn: I love Knicks fans. Iman Shumpert was a ROY candidate 3 weeks ago and HAD to start. Now Steve Novak is Larry Bird. Classic.
Why does he make me feel that our Novak idea is silly now? Like he just slapped my ass back into reality. I am ashamed now, and going to hide some place far, far away.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions
Our Novak idea isn't silly.
We definitely never said he’s Larry Bird. It’s not silly to just PLAY a 3 point specialist when offense and 3-pt shooting are areas of struggle, and our team needs a shake-up.
I don’t know a lot about Hahn, but this makes me think he’s a dick.
Fear not, friend. We make perfect sense in this instance
And being excited about our rookie,
Also not silly.
Silly is mocking the very fan base you’re supposed to be loved by via twitter. #BadForBusiness
I know it's not a bad idea . . .
But Hahn is right about us Knick fans and our “flavors of the week.” Perhaps if a certain moustached man would try some new things and make some adjustments, then we wouldn’t have to come up with all these ideas?? Hmmmm ….. what a concept!!!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
For real huh??
Being a Knick fan is like being addicted to a cheesy daytime soap opera and this is our support group.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think about that too
except the soap opera has somebody writing for it that has the audience in mind, and loose ends are tied up and eventually some reward comes for watching. We may never get a satisfying or even entertaining ending.
I think of it more like . . .
A bad soap opera where the end it attached to the beginning forming a loop. That loop just plays over, and over, and over, every year. We have the beginning, middle, and ending memorized by now. We all know how it is going to end, yet we always hope the projector will break, and the loop will stop. But it never, ever does. Too bad Rod Serling is dead because this would make a good Twilight Zone episode!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
I can’t tell. Because Novak is that awful.
We are totally serious . . .
Because as they say, when you hit rock bottom, then you can only go up. Therefore, it is time to unleash the beast Novak and let him destroy the competition!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can all agree . . .
That being a Knick fan is an exhaustive, unrewarding, unsatisfying, physically and emotionally draining job! It does not pay well either!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions
You forgot to mention
it can also destroy relationships!
But really, we suffer through these times and it makes the eventual success that much sweeter. The shitty thing about this particular swoon is that we thought we had the corner turned and now we find ourselves right back in the pile of shit, only now the shit is interspersed with a bunch of diamonds that we are starting to suspect are actually cubic zirconia.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
let's start the movement now
#freestevenovak
but seriously, he should at least be getting spot minutes. i think we can play novak with chandler for like 6 minutes and get away with it.
by latrell chokewell on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions
As they say, when you hit rock bottom . . .
Then you can only go up. Thus, it is now Novak time my friends. He is the true messiah, savior, and liberator. In Novak we trust.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions
jorts getting hurt felt like rock bottom...
come to think of it… so did waiting for b. diddy to save us… hoping old bibby would be young bibby… shumps cramping… melo’s 10 for 30’s… stats no shots in 4ths… thinking JJ is a vital component of our bench… excusing TD’s relentless misses and inability to hit layups… and now, praying for PT for novak
etc. etc.
thank you guys for enduring this nightmare with me… seriously, y’all help.
Jeez . . .
When you put it that way, I don’t think there is a rock bottom to the Knicks. We just tumble for eternity down a never-ending abyss, screaming and kicking in a hopeless effort to get to the bottom. The bottom that doesn’t exist! Let that roll around your head for a little bit . . . some scary shit no??
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
i'm sure tonight i'll wake up in a pool of sweat...
from the nightmare of falling down that never-ending abyss… whilst wearing a # 7 jersey.
by bucketsncents on Jan 26, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I started off this season . . .
Wearing my Melo jersey as I watched every game . . . then it became every other game . . . and then once a week . . . and now, I can’t even find it! That speaks volumes when you think about it.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Just like melo's health man
disappearing bit by bit. Man go find it today, so melo can drop 60 on the heat….. I’m sad.I hope we can comeback from the abyss were falling in to
Hmmmm . . .
I never realized that me and my Melo jersey could be the problem. I will search high and low for it and wear it faithfully during the Heat game. With my Melo jersey on, Carmelo is gonna drop 55 on the Heat and it’s Knicks 130, Heat 72. And we can all thank my Melo jersey for that!!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks fans are the victims of the new NBA
Sure, it’s a strike shortened season and there are other teams that are playing well, teams that have been playing together for many years (OKC) or young enough to plow through the grueling schedule that’s been set up this year (MIN, HOU). The revenge the billionaires had on the players with the lost revenue argument was cramming 66 games in to 5 months. And the established players (Melo, Stat etc) with multi-year, multi-millionz, I think, are smart enough (from their individualist perspective) to see that this is a lost year. So they’re protecting their own necks and team basketball comes second in a season like this. They’re coasting, and they’re also playing tight, hoping to make it in to the playoffs and make a run. Melo coming out last night like he just got out of a World War I trench was a theatrical gesture to take some of the heat off. D’Antoni is not the problem here.
by clydesverbalglide on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions
Yeah this shit sucks
I hate this whole fucking season. I still wish the players had canceled the season and started a player-run league because the owners are worthless leeching fucks and motherfuck an apologist.
TYBG
by The Rooster on Jan 27, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
7 - 11 . . . we are a freaking gas station/store chain. . . that stings.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Here is an interesting little tidbit . . .
Regarding our Offensive Moustached Guru:
As former Heat guard Anthony Carter revealed after his short stint with the Knicks following the Anthony trade, D’Antoni hardly drills defense at all.
I am sorry to deliver this shocking news, but I thought i should be the one to break it to you all because I truly care.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Obviously Carter was here...
Before Mike Woodson arrived. I think they are doing some defense drills now…. In fact I think it would be good if they blew off the defense drills for a while and focused on offense.
I know but . . .
Everyone has always suspected that about Dantoni, so it is interesting to actually hear a former player confirm those suspicions.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's also why...
As much as we are hating this dearth of offense, it’s got to be killing D’Antoni to see this. Not cause he might lose his job but because he really knows how to run a great offense and our roster just can’t do it….
I would have never guessed . . .
Coming into this season that our defense would be decent, but we can’t score any points. I mean, like who in the hell could have seen this train wreck coming??
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could go back in time
and convince Dolan to invest all his money with Madoff instead of Wilpon.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
It's just how can you build and lead an organization to be a winner
When everything you’ve gotten in life has been given to you by Daddy?
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Here's an interesting Tweet from
“tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Tony Delk owns the all-time worst season TS% (.452 in ’98) for a player with a 25+ usage rate. Toney Douglas right now? .401”
“tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Translation: if Toney Douglas keeps this up, he’ll crush the worst shooting display in NBA history by a volume shooter.”
Yikes !!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions
So the next time we bitch about Mike's O not working
Maybe we can honestly admit to our selves that maybe, just maybe, players performing and executing is the problem
Toney Douglas has a PER of 7 right now, which is like "check his pulse" low
and PER’s biggest flaw is that it rewards high-volume shooting regardless of efficiency. So it’s actually even worse than it looks.
Melo and Baron are out tonight and saturday
Al Iannazzone @Al_Iannazzone Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tuesday at the earliest for Carmelo and Baron.
Can't wait for the baron experience to begin
Crickets on that other guy.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions
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