Carmelo Anthony will miss the next two games.
by Seth on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM EST
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PrintBreaking news at this hour! All the beat reporters just simultaneously twat some updates regarding Carmelo Anthony's litany of injuries. Here's Howard Beck:
Carmelo taking next two games off to rest his injuries, D'Antoni says. Could return tues.
It's a wise move, I think. Melo, in my opinion, played more intelligently and chose his shots more wisely in the last two games than he did in the Nuggets game and prior. But with both hands all wrapped and riveted up, one ankle hurting, and that back/side still hampering him, he just couldn't convert good, open looks he's accustomed to making (something he just admitted was hurting the team). New York will be hard-pressed to compete with the Heat and Rockets no matter what, and Melo rimming out easy shots wouldn't help much anyway.
I'd expect Bill Walker to start in his place, as was the case when Melo missed that game in Oklahoma City. Walker has historically been pretty focused in match-ups with LeBron James, (or perhaps I completely invented that. Whatever.) so that'll be interesting to watch. I'd also expect Jared Jeffries to spin a bit as the small forward, and maybe-- MAYBE-- we might get some time with Renaldo Balkman and/or three-point prophet Steve Novak (HEY! STEVE!). Who knows? Maybe the short-handed Knicks will get hot from outside or something and take a game this weekend.
This all sets up next Tuesday's game at home against the Pistons-- a theoretically winnable game-- as a probable return date for Melo and possible debut for Baron Davis. Intriguing!
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Good decision....
He’ll be better with his hands reattached plus now he can take his buddies Lebron and Chris out clubbing the night before the game!
I feel like the timing of this decision...
Is PERFECT for what you just said. Thank God that Melo will be able to club tonight and was probably able to last night too. :) <3
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Jan 27, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
What's Up with Novak?
Why is it Novak is not getting more burn? The Dantoni offense is heavily predicated on making outside shots and nobody on this team other than Jorts and Novak have shown any ability to do this on a consistent basis. It seems like every time Novak is allowed on the floor, he spots up and makes a couple of 3s that don’t even touch the rim. Is his defense so horrible that he can’t be allowed on the floor? I just don’t understand why Novak is not getting more time.
Sure Shot Steve Novak to the start!
As long as the Knicks are playing as bad as the game can be played and Melo’s not playing at all, I’d also like to see what happens if Novak starts (or gets serious playing time). We need someone on the floor who can hit an open shot, and there really aren’t many other players who can do that.
by sisterray24 on Jan 27, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Novack-ain!
A few shots and the other team goes numb.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
This is a smart move
The chances of beating Miami and Houston on the road with the way the team is playing are slim anyway. Let him heal up and hopefully come back relatively healthy, with Baron, next week.
Let the Baron Davis Experience begin
Can’t wait to see how it plays out. With Melo sitting I bet the offense moves and grooves and slips and slides once more.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions
It'll probably be more slipping and sliding
than moving and grooving. I really hope at least two guys are able to step up big tonight. I’d say Shump and Landry are most likely since Amar’e will be the focus of their D without Melo in.
If we at least stick close in this one, I’ll take it. This could be ugly folks. Even as much as they hate on the Knicks, ESPN must be hatin’ this matchup as they might lose tons of viewers by halftime. haha
Negative waves Moriarity, negative waves!
I think you and I agree this could get ugly fast. I am just hoping for some moral victories, like seeing MDA’s offense run as it could potentially and a team that plays together and maybe scares the he’ll out of LeBum and Co. Getting a win here is outside my mental capacity to conceive at this point.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Plus more Lin and JJ!
But all kidding aside, it’s said that we’ve sunk to accepting moral victories as victories… but it’s where we’re at.
Here’s to expanding our mental capacity with a win tonight!
so hopefully the Pistons game is our Game 1
of this even shorter season
by blackhova on Jan 27, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
That wasn't the thought to start the season though...
I think that is what we’re telling ourselves to try and feel better about how this season has gone.
Great and what about the cost of my tickets?
I certainly learned something there.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
What?
The core of this team are veterans. What exactly are they learning or disadvantage do they have that every other team in the league doesn’t have as well?
by ArmchairQb68 on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully not to pass the ball to Melo
Unless they are ready to rebound.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
the lockout year is such a mess for everyone
teams
players
fans
it was never going to be a championship season, we’re growing and learning
(i’m just trying to justify it to myself i guess)
I learned that Time Warner cares enough about me to not let me hurt myself watching MSG this season.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
So true!
The folks at Time Warner are geniuses that saw this coming and because they care about their customers, they went the route that they did. They even knew how much of a bad guy they would appear like and STILL took one for the team.
So you made an EXCELLENT point and they most definitely have their customers gratitude!
It would be a sin
Not to give Lin some spin. Give the man some minutes outside of garbage time. Couldn’t be worse than watching TD Jerry’s Kids the offense.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
Lin must spend every practice throwing up hook shots from 50 feet every time he touches the ball
While yelling “What about THAT, Mr. Mike D’antoni! Fuck you D’antone-bone!”
Get The Frickin' Rebound
or maybe it's because MDA has some latent prejudice against...
effective point guards.
by bucketsncents on Jan 27, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to squash this now
Steve Novak is not a 3 point profit. He just is put in a position to make them in his limited playing time. The play is specifically drawn up for an open 3 point shot and then he sits on the bench. He is no better than above average at the shot and poor in all other departments when he is given more than a handful of minutes.
For a true 3 point profit
Go watch some highlights of Ray Allen
Actually for a true 3 point profit,
you should follow Apple stock on a daily basis. <3
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's what the Romans said about Jesus
I believe in Steve!!
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Your inference
That Novak is like Tebow is ridiculous.
It is Jeremy Lin that his this team’s Tebow. Jesus or no Jesus.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
It was more of a play of of the idea of picking prophets
It’s hard to tell who’s the real McCoy or even if there are such things.
Didn’t even think of Tebow. Who I would say is more like Alan Houston. Jeremy Lin is the devil man…stylin’ and beguiling.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
He's probably better at guarding power forwards than Ray Allen is
Though I can’t be sure about that.
Shit – I just realized we’ve got to guard LeBron and we don’t have Carmelo, Wil Chandler, or Shawne Williams on our squad.
Sigh. Bully it is.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Over under on Walker fouling out
5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
Look at his PPG and MPG stats
Guy’s fools gold.
I actually think that Novak
is potentially the kind of guy that most coaches don’t know what to do with, but that D’antoni could potentially help to thrive.
I think that D’antoni’s ready to do something radical and it doesn’t look like it’s going to be throwing Davis in, so the next thing is giving Lin and Novak spin in hopes of getting some offensive flow going.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Which on a legit team should be never
Its no wonder that Novak is continually cut when there are so many players that can hit a wide open 3 pointer and do other things in the NBA.
I suspect if the Knicks ever get healthy and need roster space he’ll be the first to go. Melo, TD, Fields and Baron Davis are all capable of doing what Novak does and much much more.
I guess I would start Balkman to try and limit LeBron
Don’t see any way we win this game though. The way Amar’e has been struggling lately, the Heat have the 3 best players on the floor, as well as a better bench.
i think sitting melo to get healthy is the right move
that should have been done two games ago. he just has not looked like his self and i was wondering was he gonna try to play the whole season hurt.
by lets go buffalo on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
That totally explains our inability to make shots.
Wait. No it doesn’t. <3
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Jan 27, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lack of Point Guard is the singular reason...
that we’ve lacked rhythm or flow.
Yeah. We're on the same page....
It’s kinda like if you have a Ferrari and a shitty driver there’s gonna be a crash especially if you’re trying to go as fast as you can and win the race. Put a good driver in the driver seat and you’re gonna do MUCH better, put Baron Davis in that seat and we win….hopefully!!!
That’s my analogy for the day…
And we all no the inference....
Because of MELO!
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
They were 6-4, and just beat the sixers
Knicks weren’t great, but were okay…not putrid like they are now
The knicks lack depth to compensate when their best player is struggling with his shot to due injury
Carmelo's injuries and subsequent diminished FG%
Really put a spotlight on the fact that, sans floor general, the Knicks have no offense other than Carmelo’s 1 on 1 stuff.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Yea
The the lack of secondary players is quite obvious when melo isn’t at 100% and making his shots. At least Amare seems to starting to wake up, but it’s still not enough when Iman and TD combine for 22 shots a game yet neither of them can crack 40% shooting.
Even worse than their crappy shooting
is their lack of command out on the floor. But Toney’s really not a point guard and Shump is a rookie. It’s way too much to ask of those guys, and I think it affects Toney’s shooting confidence. As for Shump, he’s never really been a high percentage shooter.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
I agree
Beneficial in the long run. Doubt we would beat the Heat or Houston anyway if Melo continues to play like he has been lately. We need him to get healthy.
A healthy Melo is like an active Atom Bomb
Sure it’s working but to what end?
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
The way the Knicks have been struggling lately
the Heat may have the best 7 players that make an appearance on the floor tonight
Is being a ball hog a handicap?
Do you get one of those park everywhere stickers fo the rearview with that?
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
How funny would it be
if we won the next two games…
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
if that happens all HELL is gonna break loose up
its gonna be a 100 trade melo post up here
by lets go buffalo on Jan 27, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Deep down
I desperately want them to win the next 2, then get Carmelo and Baron back, and start dominating. But knowing that probably won’t happen, I’m scared of the “trade Carmelo” chants if they look better than they have this season while Melo’s out. Goddamn, this is so frustrating.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
i do hope we upset the heat
so i could say we beat them with our bd and melo.
by lets go buffalo on Jan 27, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'd start
Lin / Douglas / Fields / Amar’e / Chandler
Bring Shump, Bully, Novak and Jeffries off the bench.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
sounds good to me
except I’d probably replace TD with Iman in that starting lineup
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
That's my vote too...
Except I might start Bibby just because Lin would be shitting his pants going into a game like tonight…
That's the way I had it first
For some reason I liked this better, because you have Shump to bring in at the point when Lin goes out.
Lin / Fields / Bully / Amar’e / Chandler is another way you could go.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
5 on 5 Lin
and CSBIOTD in the starting lineup? Sounds like a nightmare.
Fields on LBJ?
KNICKS NOW
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I'd be more worried about Lebron's speed and defense
Especially considering that Landry is just starting to get his confidence back and play well
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i say play the guy, tell him not to shoot, function as a decoy...
and just move the ball and rebound. if there’s no risk of further injury, the guy just can’t shoot, he’s still more valuable than any other crap we have out there. it might actuallly compel him to diversify his game and focus on other elements of winning.
That's silly
Tell Carmelo not to shoot?!
KNICKS NOW
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he's been shooting, i mean literally tell him...
“if you fuckin’ shoot melo… i’ll… i’ll…” ah hell, nothing can save us.
by bucketsncents on Jan 27, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
lol
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7g4jtfq
California OWNS ALL
by California Girly Girl on Jan 27, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions
Well,
The problem with this trade is that the Knicks have Chandler, who’s a center. By getting rid of their starting power forward, they have two centers and no power forwards, which kind of cuts Chandler’s value to the team in half, because he’s just not going to be on the floor with Howard. You’ve got yourself a very expensive backup 5. It’s hard to then trade a guy like that because everyone knows you’re trying to trade him.
The other thing I don’t like about the deal is this: I know that Dwight Howard is the most famous center in the land. He’s a big superstar, and he’s in all the commercials. Not that he’s not a great player, but guys like this tend to have inflated values. He’s not perfect. He still needs a great team around him. And he can’t hit foul shots. I am wary of superstars trying to get off their teams to big markets. I think Chandler is actually a better value.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
I would prefer
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vaf43h which probably makes less sense from a basketball standpoint but I would rather get his selfish egotistical ass out of town.
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
Trade machine is fun
California OWNS ALL
by California Girly Girl on Jan 27, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yes
I fully expect him to score between 20 and 30. But if he gets more than 7 rebounds I will be utterly humilated. It’s OK – let him have his fun. I’m still happy he’s not on our squad and Chandler is.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
battle of the former bulls...
true, we definitely got the cooler, less weird, less fat one.
by bucketsncents on Jan 27, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
It's about time
but he did it too late. He should have sat out the last 5 games but some people never learn. I guess it was so important that he played against the Cavs and Bobcats.
Let me stir the pot for a moment . . .
Because I am finding something very fishy here. First, Melo states he will not set out any games while the Knicks are struggling and he has to be out there fighting with them.
Of course, the perfect time for him to have sat out would have been the last few games against the bottom dwellers. That way, he could have been all fresh and healthy for tonight’s game against the Heat.
But now, on the day of the Heat game, Melo does a complete 180 and decides he better sit out a couple games and get healthy.
My question to all is this?? Is this merely a coincidence that Melo’s change of heart coincides with a nationally televised game against the Heat??
Could Melo be sweating the possibility about being totally dominated and humiliated tonight, and he is sitting out to protect his own ego with zero concern for the team??
Hey, I love Melo and all and I want this underachieving bunch of misfits to jell as much as the next guy, but when I read he wasn’t playing tonight, these thoughts flew through all that open space in my mind.
Thoughts?? Coincidence or fear??
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions
could be either.
Note that a TRUE superstar, D Wade, did the opposite.
Also, I like that melo sat because he should be sitting. And, I like that his trade value wasn’t destroyed by being dominated by and compared to true superstars.
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