Postgame Thread: Heat 99, Knicks 89
by Seth on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 PM EST
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i don’t understand why go away with what was working back to iso in the middle of the forth?
"As much as I respect and admire Bill Belichick, I came here to kick his a**, and that’s the truth." - Rex Ryan
now lets go get a goddamn snack.
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Jan 27, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions
indeed.
"As much as I respect and admire Bill Belichick, I came here to kick his a**, and that’s the truth." - Rex Ryan
now lets go get a goddamn snack.
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Jan 27, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
are you secretly chris bosh spying on us?
tell me now I command you!!!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
on multiple levels
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good job bully.. they shouldve try to use amare more.. even with to's he couldve built his rhytm there unto the next game
43 3pt attempts!!!
but i like are offense today.. its just lacking of inside threat killed us.
also a pg that handles the ball well..
healthy biddy and melo plus this offense tonight will show knicks true strenght.
by Teutoknicks on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
4th isos not Melos fault yay
I could be naive but unlike some of my esteemed colleagues here I believe so melodrama would have helped tremendously
by DonMoosavi on Jan 27, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fun fact:
the knicks made more 3pt field goals than 2 point field goals tonight
how many losses is that now?
this is driving me crazy.
amare suckz we should traid for the almight barsh!!!!! (sarcasm)
"As much as I respect and admire Bill Belichick, I came here to kick his a**, and that’s the truth." - Rex Ryan
now lets go get a goddamn snack.
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Jan 27, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions
soo..... we traid for o.j. mayo? Brillant!!!
nah but seriously did he even get a chance i dont get why they dont run the pick and rolls with amare no more but they do it with chandler
"As much as I respect and admire Bill Belichick, I came here to kick his a**, and that’s the truth." - Rex Ryan
now lets go get a goddamn snack.
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
bad spacing
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and passing i guess
"As much as I respect and admire Bill Belichick, I came here to kick his a**, and that’s the truth." - Rex Ryan
now lets go get a goddamn snack.
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Jan 27, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
But even if he just comes in for the 4th q
Cause TD was HORRIBLE in the 4th and when Melo gets back he just sucks the life out of the O in the 4th.
So yeah Baron in the 4th couldn’t be worse.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the effort was downright valiant
But the Knicks are really a pretty terrible basketball team and had no business being in this game in the first place. Oh well. Bring on… the Rockets?
by flossy on Jan 27, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
oh lawd
not looking forward to that
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
the record number of three's shows this team lacks of playmaking abilities.
but still good job on them from staying in this game.. if only we have an inside game.
shoulda just taken every shot from 3.
Why get two when you get get more, YA KNOW???
:(
they were actually hitting 3's
but to be fair, they did take more 3’s than 2’s
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Moral victories are cute
if our dudes could have passed the ball with a little more zip, I think this game could have been ours. Oh well.
as much as bully helped
his to’s killed
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Nah unlike the times we get killed by obscure players
LeBron and Wayde played their game
by DonMoosavi on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
bill walker from threeeeeee
if you just ignore those 6 to’s
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18/43 from 3. 12/41 from 2. 19 TO's.
It's tough being a Knicks fan. Being a Giants and Yanks fan is great though.
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
19 - 10 to's those killed us tonight
i think those three’s were necessary to open the inside game for amare but it doesnt happen because he cant get the ball the inside.. we need melo to do that for us. or biddy
by Teutoknicks on Jan 27, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
rec's on rec's on rec's
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 28, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
when did anyone ever say they did?
doesn’t the hivemind know that his problems are caused by lack of point guard?
Well
so far it hasn’t been viable. Is it crazy to think that it might never be?
by Chuck Burly on Jan 27, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
not crazy, but remember that never is a looooong ass time
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
True
but it certainly has to be considered a possibility at this point.
by Chuck Burly on Jan 27, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
nothing is ever fucking viable until it is.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's ridiculous
they’re not solely attributable to him, but he’s played a role in Amare being so far off his game.
He didn't look explosive at all tonight
And frankly, Melo seems to be the only guy right now who can get the ball inside to players in the paint most consistently
maybe he got bored of playing at an MVP level because it came to easy for him
just like Metta World Peace got bored of playing defense
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my sarcasm to dry?
I am frustrated with the outcomes, but by no means blaming STAT or Melo or Tyson – who I wish would be more involved in the offense, if only to draw fouls
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but anyway, I thought Amar'e played well
the Heat were keying on him a bit, no? And Joel Anthony is the best defender of PF’s in the league, right?
Everytime he touched the ball they were looking to draw a charge
In the second half he picked up on it and played a bit smarted. He also started hitting his jumpers
wait? So you mean you think it's not all Carmelo Anthony's fault
I’m pretty sure him watching the game from the bench with his ring bling was the definitive cause of every single one of our turnovers.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
bingo
he needs to be traded….or fitted for something a little less flashy, I have a used decoder ring I don’t mind parting with.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing Melo has to do with Amare is
Melo took away a very solid supporting cast from Amare And a team with very strong potential when he came here. I blame Dolan for that. Dolan is clearly a man who does not understand basketball or team. Now Amare is going to get traded in hopes of fixing the problem of how to get Melo to be more productive when clearly this never would have been a problem if we just never traded for him. And they are going to bring in Phil Jackson and we will go back to iso play and cramming it down low which god damn it, was boring 3 years before we traded Ewing.
MDA brought an exciting brand of basketball and for all those who say he never won a championship well, FU because he’s done 10000 times better than any James Lorraine Dolan team.
by I know smart people on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry, here's some hope . . .
The 40 3-point attempts by the New York Knicks is the most the Heat have allowed in franchise history.
Now doesn’t that make everyone feel better? We sat a damn record tonight so be happy damn it!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions
Would that be Baron the Great's debut? Reminds me of the McDyess era sadly
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Yes, it was a small little blip on the radar of Knicks past.
I am in psychotherapy now to have all that removed, so wish me luck!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
If LBJ can learn a post game mid-career
Seems like Amar’e should be able to do the same. He’s got touch and he’s fast and can jump; he should be able to add a jump hook and a fadeaway. RIght?
There's something about Amar'e's body type and stature that makes posting up a mismatch for him
It’s like as unnatural as it is for Dwight Howard, except Dwight Howard is stronger and bigger so he can get away with it.
lol
but doesn’t mchale? I guess he had long arms too tho.
by bmathislilley on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
might be something to that
you would think yo spend the most time working on your legs though
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Eh
Does Dirk have thicker legs? Bosh has a fine back-to-the-basket game too and his legs are comparable to Amar’e’s. It’s something else. I dunno
Bosh supposed bulked up his legs this past summer
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this past summer
except he put up how many points per game a few seasons ago?
playing meaningless games on a meaningless team
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it could be his handles
which are garbage. I picture him dribbling the ball off his foot in the post
its his whole lower body. his waste is like Kate moss. Have you ever seen a picture of amare in tight clothing?
Being a low post player is about pushing against your defender with your lower half.
It seemed like he was getting triple teamed every time he touched the ball in the paint
I do not think he is to blame for the loss. He took 14 shots, made 5 and at least two misses that I remember were an attempted half court buzzer beater to end the first half and a desperation fling as the clock expired. I thought he played decently, Not his greatest game, but he didn]t kill the team. This game might have been won with some decent PG play. At least there was good ball movement for most of the game.
It does seem like in D’Antoni’s system you don’t even need Melo present for Melo-Time at the end of the game. What’s that about anyway?
Dump Melo
If that doesn't work dump Pringles
I fear they may both end up doing the get injured, then rest . . .
But not long enough so they get re-injured again, then they rest, but it wasn’t enough, and they get re-injured again. I know pessimistic, but hey, I am a Knicks fan ok?
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions
So THAT'S what interior defense looks like!
The reason we took so many threes was simple: the Heat’s interior defense was insane. INSANE. Joel Anthony’s 5 blocks were a testament to that. But their whole team protected the paint like it was their sole reason for being. That was one of the best rim-guarding performances I’ve ever seen that didn’t involve a dominant defensive center. Even when they gave us a lane, it wasn’t quiiiiiiiite good enough to get the driver into lay-up range. They put on a clinic.
And with no real playmakers on the team, and no elite dribble-drive PG, what does that leave as the only option? The perimiter shot.
For the record, the majority of our 3 point attempts were actually pretty good looks. And of the bad looks, most of them came with 2 seconds left on the shot clock.
Don’t blame the 3-ball for our loss; blame our inability to penetrate or work the ball inside.
by nocookiesforme on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions
I don't know a ton
About Baron’s game….how does he get his points? Does he go to the rim on occasions besides dunking on Kirilenko?
by bmathislilley on Jan 27, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
He takes shots***
Fixed it for you =D
Back when he still cared about basketball (AKA when he wasn’t a Cav or a Clipper), he was great at getting himself open. He was a thick-bodied point guard who could tuck his head down and drive the lane, and he could also shoot. But he also had a tendancy to call his own number; he took a ton of 3s despite never hitting them at a particularly good rate. Which might have had something to do with the fact that he took so many of them…
He WAS a great penetrator, though. So that’s nice.
by nocookiesforme on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
well..I guess part of my answer was based on expectation
I really doubt that Baron is going to try to do his hero ball game here in New York when we have this other player that likes to do that. Also, watching him last season, I noticed that he was really playing a team-first brand of basketball and I never really noted his shot selection as being debatable or notably below average.
Now, what I’m saying won’t be reflected in good shooting numbers for Baron this season with the Knicks because he’s going to be tired and maybe out of shape, but it won’t be because of his shot selection..I’m fairly confident about that.
Fair point
I was thinking back to his last few years with the Warriors and his first few with the Clips; I kinda forgot about the first half of last season when having Blake Griffin to lob to kinda revitalized him. And I should give him more credit, he’s going to be great at the PnR with Amare. Not sure what the hell he’s gonna do while Melo Isos, though. Guess it’ll be fun to find out, haha.
by nocookiesforme on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hoping for more PnR's with Chandler also and he can (hopefully) keep the ball moving
He should be able to get Melo open shots and the ball when ISO’s are called later in the clock
Jared Jeffries Shot Tracker
Jeffries was 0-3 tonight, including 0-2 from 3 point range for 0 points.
Fun Fact: The Knicks have now lost 10 consecutive games in which Jeffries is 0-3 or worse from the field.
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why, did the rockets also lose?
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was implying that they would get the win
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True, then we say say . . .
“Yo bitches, now we have only lost 8 in our last 10 games so suck it !”
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I know, he was that little diamond in the rough . . .
And the light at the end of the tunnel. Like sunshine on a cloudy day . . . like . . . you get the idea, I miss him too.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
me too, man.
Me too.
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Jan 28, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think Amar'e has been playing well lately
He’s just gotten off to some slow starts and had a tough draw tonight. His success tomorrow will be based on how much Dalembert guards him though. If Dalembert guards him, he’s going to have to hit the jumpshot as well as he did late in tonight’s game. If Scola guards him, he’s going to rip Houston a new asshole.
Here's our problem, it's the same as Metta World Peace
World Peace blames boredom for lapses, Kobe buys it
“I got bored with defense because it was so easy for me to stop people over the years,”
I think we have the opposite, our guys are just bored because it was too easy for them to score.
Seriously, I can’t believe that Knucklehead said that. Here’s the link:
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions
when you hit more 3's than 2's
and half of those 2’s are layups or dunks= TROUBLE
The refs are the reason we lost the Finals in 94...
by I Hate Olajuwon on Jan 28, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions
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