Postgame Thread: Rockets 97, Knicks 84
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It's tough being a Knicks fan. Being a Giants and Yanks fan is great though.
by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 28, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
yup.
who gives a fuck. On to the next game!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Shooting numbers for our guards tonight:
Fields: 0-2
Douglas 3-13
Walker: 2-9
Bibby: 0-3
Lin: 3-9
Shumpert 5-13
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Well at least we can’t blame this one on Amare
The trash the Knicks have for guards shot 26% from the field on 49 attempts…
by ap3604 on Jan 28, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
let's dribble up and chuck it on no passes!! Mike D'Antoni's system is so good!!!
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
Lin had 6 assists I believe
he wins the award for ‘Playing most similarly to a PG’
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Everyone on here is calling for D'Antoni's head.
I am, by no means, defending him, but just curious: Who would you guys hire once he’s gone (besides Phil Jackson)?
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Ideally: Jackson, Jerry Sloan or Jeff Van Gundy
Realistically: Mike Woodson would be a good option
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by bluecheese999 on Jan 28, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
really?
He would just be another option. Not a good one. He didn’t really do well with very good roster in Atlanta
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Jan 28, 2012 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He did as well as could be expected in Atlanta
That was a team that had no superstar (Joe Johnson doesn’t count as a star) and still gave better teams fits in the playoffs. They were at best the 4th best team in the East in his tenure and made the conference semis his last two years.
He also should get some credit for this year’s defensive improvement.
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by bluecheese999 on Jan 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Allan Houston. Patrick Ewing. Woodson might work. I don't think you need a genius level coach in this league, but I do think that this quick shooting, overreliance on the threeball, passive-aggressive coaching style is a total catastrophe.
People give MDA a pass because they can’t believe he’s THAT bad because of Phoenix, and because his style is fun to watch. But it’s not hard to see what’s going on here.
by east_harlem on Jan 28, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Really??? D'Antoni is not the problem.
It’s the shit guards we have. D’Antoni knows how to coach but he relys on a strong point to run the show and that is something we don’t have until Baron comes back. PLease temper your expectations until we have Baron running point. Things could change DRASTICALLY…
Here's an example from Shumpert's NBA Draft profile
“Strengths: Very strong for a point guard … Uses his strength well on both offense and defense … Scary in transition … Excellent slasher … Defenders practically bounce off him when he drives in the paint … Able to finish in spectacular fashion at the rim, displaying fantastic hang-time and body-control”
“Weaknesses: Very poor jump shooter, and hasn’t shown any improvement in this area during his three-year career with Georgia Tech”
So why does he do nothing but jack up threes? In a real offensive system, he would be taught to play to his strengths, not his weaknesses.
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by bluecheese999 on Jan 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
only so much you can do tho
if they give you the three, gotta hit the three. period. If they decide to pack it in, no amount of slashing is gonna help.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 28, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
That was the excuse for last night, but what's the excuse tonight?
And if you can’t hit the three, you have to figure out something else to do.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I feel like a lot of this has to do with the coaching staff not having enough time
with the rookies to learn about their games and develop them the right way. I think Shump will def get better and start using those parts of his game
more excuses....
the rest have been playing basketball their whole lives… get it figured out
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
Well the poster was referring to Shump and so was I
I am not excusing the other players, they know better, but you can only take so far that lacks a decent pg and any depth.
people who diminish valid explanation call reasons "excuses"
while people who champion logical cause and effect will call an excuse a “reason”
a turd is a turd, it doesn’t matter why it’s in the middle of you’re living room floor, it shouldn’t be there yet it is. Whatever the reason for it being there in the first place, one could call it an “excuse” or “reason” and neither term would be wrong but the term used would say much more about the person speaking it than the actual mess itself.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 29, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
If you made it to the NBA then . . .
You got to be able to do something right. Otherwise, all of us would be playing in the NBA.
Dantoni’s secret formula on how to be conidered an Offensive Genius:
Plan A:
Pray that your team consists of good three point shooters + let them shoot as many as they possibly can = a win.
Plan B:
If team consists of shitty three point shooters + let them shoot as many as possible and pray they go in = a loss and proof that “One Trick Pony” title is far more accurate than “Offensive Genius” title.
I have a friend who is the Knicks towel boy and he cam across a book on Dantoni’s desk one night when no one was around.
He said is was an extremely thick book with the title of “How to Coach, the Mike Dantoni Way.” Like most of us, he could not resist the urge to peek inside.
He was shocked that all the pages were mostly blank except for the above secret formula and some Dantoni doodles. Most were unflattering doodles of Balkman, Isiah, and Phil Jackson.
“Helter Skelter” was also written on many pages in what appeared to be human blood.
My friend was totally creeped out and resigned the next day. I can not blame him, for he was permenantly scarred for life.
True story!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Jan 29, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
None of our players strength is being a point guard...
and that it perhaps the most important position on the floor. It’s a devastating problem no matter who is coaching. Plus, players have to execute, I think our guards execution this season has been awful.
Name me a good team without a good point guard running things…
Derek Fisher has always been a serviceable point guard...
even now at least he has the brain of a point guard. His IQ is way up there….
If Derek Fisher is a serviceable point guard, so is Bibby
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I don't see why this team can't be that good, even without a point
but the Lakers players have been playing together for years, have built up better role players who have been there awhile, and still struggle on offense at times
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Me
I already finished my resume. 82-0 team in 2k11 and 2k12. Also happened to be the MVP of the league in the same years.
but you don't get to control the players
and have one player who builds up to a 99 rating, assuming you are in myplayer mode
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don't include me in everyone
no one could come in here and have an immediate impact unless shooters started to hit their shots, and Melo and Baron got very healthy
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Well, I think he deserves a shot to see where we're at when Baron's at full strength
But I don’t think we’ll be seeing MDA next year. I don’t know who takes his place, but no contract renewal for him.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
So should the Colt's not have fired that guy...
so they could “see how he’d do with Peyton”???
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
Fired what guy?
I don’t know enough about the situation to judge.
Did they fire Jim Caldwell? Because he got a shot with Peyton.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I am not calling for his head
I think he is doing the best he can with what he has. I don’t agree with all of his decisions but its not like hes the one that forced through the Melo trade that gave away most of our team. We aren’t going to get much better until our young players have time to develop and we add depth to this team. Both of these things are going to take time and its prob gonna suck for a while. It is what it is.
people just listen to Carton
without realizing Carton is a blithering idiot.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
is that supposed to be part of his appeal?
I quickly shut off the tube after the post game so I dont accidentally relive any of our turdtacular games, so I have no idea why the program is successful or even if it is, but either way I keep hearing about it.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 29, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I want Mike D'Antoni to stop coaching quick shots and the three ball, to stop giving up with garbage lineups when the game is winnable, to call timeouts and get his team to respect him.
There’s my argument for my detractors from the last thread. You may fire when ready
because getting tired playing the 4th game in 5 nights is inexcusable?
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your a professional fucking athlete
God damn Big East kids play 5 games in 5 nights. And they’re kids. Fuk
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
5 games in 5 nights? when? I know I haven't seen a game in a while but
the ncaa kinda heavily regulates everything from number of games played to practice time so I’m not gonna say you’re wrong but that sounds pretty unreal.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
And they are playing against kids.
Here they are playing against professional athletes too, you know.
You were saying
“Big East kids play 5 games in 5 nights. And they’re kids.”
To which I’m saying – yes they are kids, but they were playing also against the kids. Here the Knicks were playing against professional athletes, which is completely different. IMO, your comparison is understandable but flawed.
don't college teams play fewer minutes
and use their bench more? I really don’t watch enough college ball to know about that second part
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who is practicing and shooting and exercising all the time
and who were not having much success out there before MDA switched it up. The score was closer, but the shooting was abysmal. That 3rd quarter was a disaster and they actually did raise their FG% in the 4th
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don't compare college to the pros
different game, much less up and down play and much more time for rest.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
imo, our offense looks worse when we get further in the clock and hold the ball longer
we hold it too long it usually leads to turnovers, but I could be imagining it. The lineups? are we gonna throw clyde out there? You’re probably on to something with the time outs tho.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
for a scoring d'antoni team...
We sure suck at it.
I told myself I wouldn’t start a mob chant of fire dantoni until we had a real pg..but damn this is hard. How can we be THIS bad. I mean…we can’t score for shit.. is the system that complicated to run??
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No really tho. Why adapt the system to fit the players? D'Antoni sure wouldn't
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
the problem is that he did adapt the system to the players
if he forced them to play Pringles ball they’d score more. But fuckin Carmelo….
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I can relate to this sentiment
But with boom dizzle on the horizon I feel like we just have to stick it out until then and if things don’t improve I might get on that train.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Hi
I’m a basketball coach. I have a system I like to run. When I don’t have the right players for the system, I say fuck it and make excuses while we lose.
Who am I?
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
please
Coughlin is on the hot seat every year, for some dumb shit whenever the team starts playing stupid.
You guys are just fickle, it’s nothing new. The grass is always greener on the other side. There is not a problem that cant be fixed by firing or trading someone.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I give up
Fire everyone! Trade everyone else! Nothing will ever get better! It is not possible that this team could start shooting better! Baron Davis will do nothing! A stone would coach better than D’Antoni!
I liked P&T initially because the community here seemed relatively rational compared to others. This is no longer a fun place to be.
I think the Knicks are going to turn it around. But perspective doesn’t seem to be the way around here anymore. I’ll keep my thoughts to myself from now on.
Sorry you feel that way
but how do you want us to react after losses to the Bobcats, Raptors, Warriors, Suns, Bucks and Rockets? It’s pretty clear that this team is not playing anywhere close to as well as they should be.
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by bluecheese999 on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
It’s easy to have perspective when you expect to suck, and do suck as the Knicks have in recent memory. Then last year was great because Stat came in and made us pretty dam good.
This year we expected to be great, but didnt realize that without an offseason, there was no time to build cohesive team chemistry. So we complain and call for everyone’s head.
If say, by March with a healthy Melo and Baron Davis we still suck…. PANIC MODE IS JUSTIFIED.
LOL
It’s amazing. I came to P&T for the first time this season because AmazinAvenue is so much fun, even though the Mets have not been and have been thinking similarly. I have just been blaming it on NYers expecting the best immediately though and enjoy the occasionally rational thoughts. Don’t keep your thoughts to yourself though, I just met you!
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The Knicks will turn it around....
this is only the first quarter of the season. I think our record is still better than our record at the beginning of the season last year….
Or maybe I’m just delusional…
My feeling is
as long as they make the playoffs, which they still can in the East, then our final record doesn’t matter so long as our final product can score again. In the playoffs you still have to beat the best teams to get to the finals. Doesn’t matter who you are, you are still going to have to get through the Heat and/or the Bulls
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It's not a fire everyone sentiment
It’s a, let’s take responsibility for sucking sentiment.
But if the coach won’t take responsibility for playing like ass, who will?
G-Mac bitches
BC 2011
how about the players who are sucking like ass?
which is clearly everyone EXCEPT Tyson Chandler and spurts from Shump, Fields and healthy Melo
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tonight he was absent
and then never came back. But he looked good last night and had been for several games – hence the spurts
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blech times blech plus blech = these knicks
"Houston top of the key...Down the lane...RUNNING JUMPERRRR...OFF THE FRONT RIM AND IN!"
by drivingandthriving on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions
p and t is great
The knicks aren’t tho. What are they thinking now? Heck jordan hill a former knick blew them out!
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Phil Jackson couldn't win with this team, don't blame D'Antoni
He ’s the one with the pail behind the elephant (Dolan)
by RichardVincentGuerin on Jan 28, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions
Dolan will never meet with Phil J
Cause there is no place where they could meet that would have enough space for both their egos.
by I know smart people on Jan 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
i want an acountabilty statement from dolan
Why hasn’t he joined us on road games or sumpthing? Where is he? Speak to the people james dolan!
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
too busy watching the Rangers
and gushing about how they are going to win a championship
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how much would Phil J cost anyway?
12 million per?
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Wonder if he'll lower ticket prices because of how much we suck right now
here’s the answer: noooooooooooo
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
The positives:
Jeremy Lin
Amar’e
Tyson
Negatives:
Everything and Everyone else
Seth has “so many less potatoes” playing in my head over and over again. DAMN YOU SETH.
.
awesome
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well they've won their last three of four games
and beat teams we couldn’t beat so thats about right
lin is a positive?
MDA threw him out to coordinate an offense doomed from the start. He couldn’t play d and got his shot repeatly blocked. He was a total fail but not the reason we lost.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
please dont take this away from me!
I had to really search for positives
- offensively though 6 assists off the bench isnt good enough for me to see silver lining
I thought his D was decent
He needs to work on driving against NBA players, but he looked like a PG and distributed the ball well
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I thought he sometimes gave up on his drive too soon
which seemed like a lack of confidence and experience problem.
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Oh and he has chemistry with Jerome Jordan
If Lin gets minutes, maybe Jordan will too
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I think JJ can be good
but, like Mozgov last year, he is probably prone to foul trouble. If he isn’t going to get in the rotation yet, I think we would agree he should be sent to the D-league to at least get game minutes
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I mean prone to foul trouble early on in his career
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This season is a wash out. You cannot win in the NBA without a point guard
by RichardVincentGuerin on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions
So another wash out. How many years has it been "wait till next year" ?
And can I get a refund on my ticket costs because this season is a wash?
by I know smart people on Jan 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
relax
just wait til next year!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 28, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
My problem is that there are better teams in this league with much worse personnel, that are better coached. Meanwhile we have 2 of the best scorers in the league, a champion center, young athletic guards, and nothing but excuses to show for it.
When is the longtime Knick fan’s forcefield of sympathy around Mike D’Antoni going to run out of plasma fuel?
Nothing will come of the Knicks as long as Dolan runs the team
by RichardVincentGuerin on Jan 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions
dolan is to blame
Man can’t run an orginization. Look at the lack of trust in the knicks.it starts from an incompetent owner.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was suggesting we kidnap Jeff Van Gundy from Miami
Now that we’ve missed our opportunity, I’m sorely disappointed.
Just awful
from top to bottom…from ownership, to management, to coaching, to the players…just pitiful. I can’t see this getting much better with just the addition of B. Diddy either.
NBADraft.net profiles (or why the Knicks have to stop jacking up threes and go to the hoop)
Shumpert: “Defenders practically bounce off him when he drives in the paint”
Fields: “He is extremely good going to the basket, where he has terrific patience and a wide variety of counter moves he can use in order to get the best shot”
Walker: “An absolutely jaw dropping, electrifying dunker capable of getting air like the greatest dunkers of all time, Jordan, Dominique, Vince Carter, Josh Smith etc.”
Douglas: “Has the strength and willingness to outmuscle smaller defenders inside”
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The list
Shumpert – How many layups and dunks has he missed this season – Plenty
Fields – Same problem as above as well as starring in the Invisible Man Takes Manhattan
Walker – Runs over more people than Grand Theft Auto and is terrible when he puts the ball on the floor
Douglas – worries far too damn much about who’s around him than actually finishing at the rim and cannot run a break and cannot hit a player with the ball where it needs to be for them to finish in rhythm or cleanly
Walker and TD I have lost patience with. Shumpert will develop in time. Fields is much like Amar’e in my opinion, in that he is only effective at his best with a good ballhandler creating for him. Our guards suck.
Walker's 'move' in the first quarter was the highlight of the night
so terrible
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the knicks should just regain trust
Its not stat fault or anyones. Its simply a matter of doing the right thing and trusting its other then the shots will fall and they will be a cohesive unit willing to play d and get ny pride back.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Get off the internet Dan and tell your team to stop chucking!!!
by east_harlem on Jan 28, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
its no use
I gave up trying to imitate coaching. Now I simply fling a newspaper down at the floor when we fall behind by 10 on freakin jordan hill jump shot!
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dan how's it feel to be the better looking
Yet less successful brother?
by I know smart people on Jan 28, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
less stress
I simply chill with naldo b. And hide during ackward timeouts taken by pringles
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 10:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But it must sting at the holidays and family gathering no?
by I know smart people on Jan 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
so so
It gets ackward knowing my brother landed me a job.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so so
It gets ackward knowing my brother landed me a job.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In Short Tyson
Addressed His Technical foul and his frustration during the game. The interesting part was probably that he said everyone has to man up because he absolutely refuses this team going through a losing season
by KnightandDaye on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I really like Tyson - true leader on the court
I still believe this will turn around but I am most definately pissed with the lack of attention to detail on this team in our backcourt. TD should’ve figured it out by now but he just isn’t what we wish he was. He needs to return to the bench and be a shooter and focus on that, he is a scorer and everything else just gets in the way of his game.
With Chandler, once I got past the fact he isn’t the type of Center I knew and loved in Ewing and Olajuwuan in regards to scoring, he has become my favorite player. He talks and he means it and applies the effort – I never thought that of Amar’e and don’t think that now of him. I’m fine with that now, but him being captain just doesn’t gel with my common sense.
Tyson has heart...
He’s got my respect. I just hope Baron can get him some lobs….
'he should've figured it out by now but he just isn't what we wish he was. he needs to return to the bench and be a shooter...'
that is not his responsibility nor anything we can control. He is doing what MDA asks of him, and when he went to the bench to be the scorer, he stunk there too. Personally, I think his shoulder is not fully healed yet – he did keep looking in pain during the Heat game. There are not many other reasons his play would have dropped this far off a ledge, unless he also needs a main facilitator in the game – not even when he is playing, but just in there – to take the pressure off of him. People have said Lin is outta control, but TD looks outta control a lot to me.
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we need domination from the guards
When the guards have chemistry and pride on both ends ofn the floor then the team starts to win and take on a new dimension. Our bigs strugle when the guards are unsure and weak.proof: felton and landry with chemistry gave stat and then career stats. Chauncey and td with chem. Led to knick wins. Bottom line if baron and the guards can’t dvelop a chemistry and tight group of guards worth noting, then we will continue on this path to nowhere.
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He said "I refuse, I refuse" (repeatedly) to go through a losing season
we’re just going to have do whatever it takes to win I don’t care what it is…we’re just going to have to man up and do whatever it takes. This is a rough paraphrasing, I am sure it will be up on Knicksnow.com soon though.
stat is ny man
Of course its depressing when your star isn’t starring. He’s hearing trade talks and its only his second year here!
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He needs to step up...
in his interviews and on the court. The guy spends more time plugging his appearance on some shitty cable than he does talking about the Knicks winning. He is the shittiest interview, I just want him to say “Fuck this shit man, we are gonna start playing so Ball now!” but all I here is “yo, check out my appearance on (insert shitty show’s name here), it was really great to work with everybody on this. Plus I’m in Vogue next month!!!!”
STAT, BE WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE!!! Don’t just flex for the cameras, you look like a douchebag.
Man, there were some bad grammatical lapses in that post....
Sorry, hope you catch my drift.
I know exactly what you mean
and I think I harped on this before, but I was getting worried during the summer, when I was reading about him traveling all over the world, that he wouldn’t be ready if the lockout ended. When do you get the time to focus on your game? To work out? To get better? He claimed to have improved his dribbling, but he looks terrible when he puts the ball on the floor, and his reliable jumper looks rusty. I know he can turn this around, but he better not do that shit again this summer. I want him in the same gym D Rose is in all summer, making himself elite instead of expecting it
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You are aware that he wasn't medically cleared to work out, right?
And I’m sure you know that he has a reputation as a gym freak.
I didn't realize he wasn't cleared to work out this past summer, but knew he normally did
then his rust makes much more sense
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This is what life as a knicks fan feels llike
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
with an unkempt beard
And bloodshot eyes from not getting sleep and nourishment. Oh seth help us !
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Patrick Ewing should be the next coach of the Knicks
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions
thats ok with me. ewing is a cool dude.
Maybe he can mentor jerome jordan on how to dunk. Kid nearly broke his wrist in garbage time dunking
by Dan D'antoni on Jan 28, 2012 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha yeah that was this season in 1 play
But the way I look at it is
1. Just like MDA was regarded as a savior after Isaiah Patrick can fill that role, and everybody already loves him so he will have the city in the palm of his hand, a city that could be in open revolt by the time this season ends.
2. This is Ewing’s shot, MDA has failed to adapt for his whole tenure here. Patrick knows this is his shot at coaching, and its something he’s wanted for so long, that he could come in with a plan, ready to work and teach and help the Knicks actually IMPROVE, something D’Antoni has not done.
3. He’ll preach D. Ewing played when the Knicks were extremely aggressive, and even as an assistant the Magic are a pretty good defensive team.
4. He commands respect from everybody and knows what it takes to win in NY
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 28, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
sidenote he is also the man
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 28, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
it would be somewhat risky for him to come to NY to coach
considering how much hate fans give to any coach who doesn’t succeed here. I would hate to hear the fans calling for him to get fired, but can you guarantee it wouldn’t happen?
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
i mean
i mean if they wanted to make 1 move to shut the fans up and make them forget that their paying way more to watch the same suck basketball thats the move to make
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Until the team keeps sucking, 'cause Ewing has never coached shit
I guess you don’t remember that NY fans were somewhat shitty to Ewing even when he was a player here? Why would it be any different as coach? And what the fuck does he know about running a team?
well what does MDA know??
the Knicks need someone new, a totally different direction
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 29, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
no because MDA
failed to adapt and change his system when the Knicks had no PG
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 29, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
No because the players failed to adapt their game to the system and benefit the players they're playing with
including ISO’s and chucking early in the clock and enuff turnovers to kill any momentum gained. Simon says you are wrong. He has adapted, but the personnel is what it is
plus he is Jamaican
and big, so he can force feed Jerome Jordan plates full of ox tail until he has some more meat on dem bones.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 29, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shooting Guard, Point Guard, Combo or What Have You????
The best PER among our backcourt heros is Landry Fields at 12+ while the rest are in single digits. Poor Toney Douglas , rookie of the year at the quarter pole, same with Landry Fields last year, and a week ago Iman S….. was getting the same push from Knick’s fans. I forgot who said it, but if you are talking about rookies a quarter of the way through the season “your team” is in serious trouble. We are possed of the “backcourt that can not shoot straight.” In under no circumstances let us delude ourselves that Baron Davis is the answer. He will make a positive difference, but please look at the other guards on the roster. BLOW IT UP – SEND DOLAN TO THE MOON!!! I wonder if I will live to see another Knicks’ championship team.
Dolan is the east coast Donald Sterling, now all he has to do is go blow David Stern
by RichardVincentGuerin on Jan 28, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions
Dolan is a terrible owner, but he's not as bad a human being as Donald Racist Ratfucker Sterling
Donald Racist Ratfucker Sterling it terrible on level Dolan couldn’t even wish to achieve
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
To me, the most frustrating thing about this team
is the fact that they are just waiting for Boom to get healthy, instead of going out and signing someone to run the point. It really didn’t take long to see that we would benefit from a more experience PG and that Bibby would not be that guy. Has Arenas really fallen that low that we couldn’t have given him a shot several weeks ago? It’s clearly not like he is that likable, as Bibby is, so if it didn’t work out no one would care if we just turned around and released him. Tonight, Jeremy Lin ran the best PnR with Amare that I can remember from this season. Help me out here Seth, ye of the hopefully now working synergy account, how much have we even run the PnR with STAT this season? I don’t think Lin is an answer yet, though I do hope he continues to improve and becomes an important role player for this team, but tonight it looked like he was the second best PG on the team, behind the ‘savior’ Baron Davis – which is sad for multiple reasons, but maybe none more so than the fact that Bibby should be capable at running point.
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and I mentioned this before
but given his early struggles, and that he likely will be replaced, Devon Harris could probably be had relatively cheap and had really started distributing well for NJ the past few years before the trade. The Knicks have scorers, they need distributors and relying solely on Boom, or improvements from TD/Shump/Lin, seems short sighted
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
Areans is done
There is a reason that zero teams in the NBA want the headache. Devon Harris = Toney Douglas with a $9m/year contract. No thank you.
The truth of the matter
Is that it’s not possible to sign a starting-caliber NBA PG haflway through the season, because the good ones are all playing somewhere. And we don’t have the means to trade for one, because this roster is built on 3 massive contracts that we can’t or won’t trade, and a bunch of minimum-salary garbage that no other team wants, save for (maybe) Iman Shumpert.
they are worth trying
I keep forgetting the 9 mil tag, but at this point it is half that and he is muuuuuuuuch better than TD will ever be at PG.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
because this roster is built on 3 massive contracts that we can’t or won’t trade,
I dont advocate any firings or trades at this point but if we were inclined to, we’d be able to move any one of those big contracts easy.
One of the things I hated most over my life as a Knicks fans is how we’d habitually overpay people but we didn’t offer any of those three guys anything any other NBA team would not have offered them.
If it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out but we made good offers and got three great players that can’t all seem to get rolling on the same page together at the same time.
Does losing now hurt their value? Sure it does, but not so much that they are now unmovable. One bad season doesn’t erase several seasons of greatness for these guys. That’d be short sighted. There will be GM’s who will gamble a change in scenery or a different coach, or cast of characters will be enough to get any of those guys on track.
Again, I don’t advocate any trades, just saying it really shouldn’t be to hard to do, if that’s what the front office wanted to do.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 29, 2012 5:47 PM EST reply actions
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