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Iman Shumpert could return much sooner than expected.

How about some good news? From Marc Berman of the Post:

Iman Shumpert could return for tomorrow’s game against the Bobcats, easily beating the Knicks’ 2-to-4-week timetable.

The Knicks dynamic rookie combo guard spent the morning shootaround leaping and dunking, cutting and grooving to the basket. Shumpert hasn’t played since spraining his left MCL in a collision with the Celtics’ Chris Wilcox in the season opener.

Those of us who watched last night's game got to see some footage of Shumpert practicing in a brace, (which, according to the report, he'll have to wear for a while once he returns) and he did look pretty comfortable running and cutting and stuff. Obviously, as is always the case, the foremost concern is making sure that Shump does not aggravate the injury. But if he's deemed ready to go this early, the Knicks could really benefit from his contributions off the bench. The second unit is badly in need of some scoring, defense, and leadership, and he could potentially provide all three. 'Twould be a pleasant surprise.

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color me worried

more than anything, i want this kid to have a long and healthy career.

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by stingy d on Jan 3, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah

there is no reason whatsoever to rush him back. If another week helps then just wait on it. If it’s not fully healed for another few months, then I could see bringing him ack and waiting on the (possibly) necessary surgery for the off-season. Otherwise, if it is rest only that he needs, then a few more games of us suffering is a much better outcome than him tearing his MCL

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Whose got it better than us??? NOBODY!

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

On a minorly related note

I love this tweet from him

Jus got my first check…finally understand TAXES…smdh…time for work

by Jackaroe on Jan 3, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Oh yea...hes in tath upper bracket "fo sho"

But the rook has enough gwap to splurge a lil… seen those black diamonds he had on the other day. Ima get there one day too Shump. Even If i got to give out hand jobs to every one.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

nah. u gotta give em all free ones.

Then once fan base is up there hit em with the $$ . Doesnt the audio industry road to $$ apply to every other idea of success?

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would like to see Iman start soon

as Landry Fields seems very comfortable leading the “2nd unit”. He provides a steady hand and dominates other 2nd units. This may be unconventional, but what about the Knicks is conventional?

In other news, our old friend Turiaf just can’t stay off the IR: The Washington Post reports Wizards reserve big man Ronny Turiaf broke his hand Monday night and is out 5-6 weeks.

by Will Hanza on Jan 3, 2012 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I seriously think

Ronnie was the basis for Samuel Jackson’s character in M. Night Shyamalan’s "Unbreakable " starring Bruce Willis.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

IF he can play with it, fine.

But from watching that video during last nights game (which im sure is either from the day before or that morning of) It didnt look like he was even going half speed with that brace on. It was promising to see him cutting jumping and reportedly dunking.

That video didnt show me that he could do that at full speed. I mean, im sure the staff knows more than what a 10 sec video showed us..but if he can jolt around laterally on D and break on loose ball and such..then why have him out there. He needs to be healthy and i hope this isnt a rushed job.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

Here's what happened

Iman dribbled, cut, and dunked at half speed and said he might be ready for practice.

That he might play in the Bobcats game sounds like a typical Berman extrapolation.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 3, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

But yeah

It would be cool to have him back sooner than later. I’m not sure he’s going to improve our stagnant offense all that much at this point, but the sooner he can get to working on it, the better.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 3, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I want him back as soon as he's healthy

but healthy is the operative word. I doubt our training staff is using holy water or healing hands, so I don’t know how he could be back so soon unless he is secretly Wolverine.

It’s possible he’s healed fast but I’d be a little more comfortable with him resting and only playing in emergency until he got like a second or third opinion from an independent doctor clearing him.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

please

wolverine would have been back on the court right away.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Jan 3, 2012 10:55 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

The problem with Wolverine

is that he thinks he can shoot the 3 and he can’t.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't care

we should draft Wolverine anyway and then trade him in year two for cyclops who is coming up on his contract extension!

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

There is also a problem when he passes or catches the ball

and accidentally slices it in half. It really slows the game down.

New signature coming soon.

by YuckFou on Jan 4, 2012 5:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yea, I've heard he's a ball stopper myself...

also a psychopath. But I think a little of that would be good for the team.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 4, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you mean
unless he is secretly Wolverine

I didn’t know it was a secret…

by YIK on Jan 3, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Wow

Well, we didnt know the severity of the injury, so maybe it wasn´t that serious a tear. But damn, the Knicks better make sure hes healthy. Pringles´ job is on the line, and I can see him rushing back iMan to try and add somewhat of an offensive weapon.

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by moose35 on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

It wasn't a tear at all

it was a sprain of the MCL.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

holy fuck

if it was a tear- i’d be in tears.

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by stingy d on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

well technically a sprain of the MLC is a tear

just depends what grade tear it is. believe grade 1 and 2 are partial tears while a grade 3 is a full tear. but MCL’s have special powers that let them fix themselves kinda like lizards can regenerate their tails. too bad for Lorena Bobbit’s husband that we can’t regenerate our “limbs”

by Renegade11 on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

would just like you to know...

this no make me feel better.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I won't lie

I didn’t know an MCL sprain was a tear. But I was right!

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Jan 3, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

When u lift weights and your really sore the next day. Your muscles have been torn. So dont be scared by the word “tear”. Its not as if its partially ripped as in separared…but more like the mcl sprained to a point where an outer layer of that tendon/ligament? Has been torn.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he clearly wasn't thattt hurt.

if he was, it would actually take 2-4 weeks… I wanna believe in that Shump Sauce …and I wanna get some to BDiddy, but it’s damn hard

Fields' #1 fan ...............kinda

by gymtanlandry on Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

@Seth

T.Douglas/PG I.Shumpert/SG as our starting backcourt.
For defense and leadership in the second unit? Well the real Seth is L.Fields in the second unit for your request.
You indicated Shumpert helps in both of these catagories. I might add he also helps the first unit to do better by bailing out Careml from bringing the ball up along with giving T.Douglas help.

No second unit for this guy. Starting SG is our need now.
Let’s hope D’Antoni gets it right for a change.
Who knows we just might see some victories instead of loses.

by Dziedzic on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

so...

the real Seth is Landry Fields! I knew it! Your Seth Mask looks so life-like. Is that latex based or what?

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm laughing and I'm agreeing

Who is this Caremi?! I thought I had no regard for spelling. But yeah, Dizzy, I agree.

by screamedia on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Caremi is the warrior priest hunting Landry Fields for sport

which is why Landry was forced to take on Seth’s identity and wear his skin as a mask. At least that’s how I interpreted that comment…I could be wrong.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd hope Shumpert starts soon as PG

Douglas is more of a off the bench scorer…I’m not comfortable with him leading the offense most of the time.
Let’s hope it’s Shumpert develops soon so we can have someone else as starting PG for awhile.

by CookieOs on Jan 3, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Douglas cannot shoot or pass, a backup guard..
Schumbert can’t shoot either, but has potential to be point guard,
maybe another backup guard type.

Melo is a ball hog, along with Douglas.
Rest of team so angry at not getting their
touches that they are shooting OUT OF THEIR RANGE & ARE TAKING 3 PT SHOTS.
David Lee NEVER took 3 pt shots and settled for mid range jumpers when he couldn’t
get enough touches.

FORECAST-
AMARE IS OUT OF HERE, David Lee returns to form a frontcourt of Chandler, Lee, & Melo.

by frankiec on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

"settled" ha!

yr funny.

forecast-
frankiec says more wacky stuff about david lee and amar’e stoudemire. fails to realize that lee and stoudemire “settle” for shots in the same range.

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by stingy d on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you

trade Amar’e for Lee and Stephen Curry?

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

's contract

I fucked up three times in a row lol

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I would

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

if it wasn't for Lee

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Shump Shump!

I’d kinda rather he wait for Saturday’s game against Detroit than return tomorrow for Charlotte. Give him some extra healing time and also let him get back to basketball things, like get his rhythm back a little bit.

I know our team has been playing like shit, but we’ve got some easy opponents coming up, and we aren’t dying for his contributions. I’d rather not risk re-aggravating the sprain

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by WSD on Jan 3, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Based on last night's game...

I don’t think anyone can be called an “easy” opponent at this point unfortunately

by Zhantee on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Update

He’s “questionable” for tomorrow. I’d be he sits til the weekend.

by Seth on Jan 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

prob for the best

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Jan 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

blin for the best

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i'd be devastated if he doesn't play

but thats how its been every single day since we drafted him.

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by stingy d on Jan 3, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the zone defense could be massively successful.

I just don’t have faith in our coach to actually employ it. He seems pretty comfortable letting our players switch on every screen. I think that he thinks it’s working.

Thanks for making us a contender, Donnie.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 3, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

but dont

We run something very similar to a zone. We just run a switching zone…right? Wrong?,

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 3, 2012 7:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've never personally played a zone where you ever switch

Granted, pick-up games and intramural basketball can’t be compared to the NBA in the slightest. Just to my knowledge, you don’t switch in a zone, you just cover your ground, or you know – zone.

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by WSD on Jan 4, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

well yes and no

very basically, in a matchup zone- you always mark a player, but stay within your specific zone. its most obvious down low. where the defense looks like a 3-2 zone, and you can see the bigs just passing their guy through down low.

it requires a lot of accountability and extra effort and talking and confidence. jared jeffries is actually a fuckin beast in this scenario.

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by stingy d on Jan 4, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Hard to see it working with our starting 5

Amare and Melo fall asleep too often on D to pay attention to who’s moving in or out of a zone

by Joamiq on Jan 4, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

This team is sweet. With B.D. and Shump eventually starting, Landry and Douglas off the pine, Stoudemire back, and a month or two of D’antoni “getting the ball humming” we’ll be fine. D’Antoni has always taken a while to get his teams going. I look at it like we’re just getting a lot of our second and third unit guys up to speed with starting minutes. Second half of this season is ours…

by Sprewell on Jan 3, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

I sprained my MCL a couple years ago

along with my ACL, playing rugby. It REALLY sucks for about the first week, but I was doing running drills in a brace about 2 weeks later and back in full contact about a month later. So this isn’t ENTIRELY shocking to me. Probably had better trainers than we did, and is doing nothing but PT and rehab every day, whereas I went only 3-4 times a week.

Regardless, great news.

/inb4coolstorybrah

by psuwxman on Jan 3, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

awesome story bro

but really thanks for the personal report. Sheds some light on how Shumpy was able to get back so fast.

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Jan 3, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus Shump only sprained one of them

I forget if it was the MCL or ACL, but yeah. That would also speed up the process in comparison to puswxman’s recovery

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by WSD on Jan 4, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Has it only been a week since the season started? I swear it feels like I've lived and died about 8 times now.

Thank god Shump came back faster than we thought, but I’d rather not push it. We’ll muddle and Bibby through until you come back man. Just get back to 100%.

Baron…stop playin. Just stick some hair pins in your back and call it acupuncture. We need you out there.

Fish Fingers give me a break.

by GAx on Jan 3, 2012 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

10 days

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by stingy d on Jan 4, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

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