D'Antoni Confirms No Baron Davis This Week, But Perhaps Some More Jeremy Lin?
by Seth on Jan 31, 2012 1:30 PM EST
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PrintESPN's Ian Begley spoke to Mike D'Antoni today and got a few updates on New York's point guard situation. First, the ever-retreating debut date for Baron Davis has been confirmed to be sometime next week at the earliest. It seems as if Davis still has a bit of soreness in his back, and his conditioning and comfort with his teammates are obviously still in progress as well. Said D'Antoni:
"I don't think it's a set back but it just needed a little bit more time to calm down," he said.
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"I think next week's looking more like it ... The sooner the better, but I don't know for sure," D'Antoni said.
As Begley notes, the Knicks have their back-to-back-to-back this week, starting on Thursday. Without Davis (who probably would have struggled through three games in three nights anyway), they remain desperate for point guard help, and it sounds like D'Antoni might be desperate enough to turn back to Jeremy Lin:
"He shows he can run a pick and roll and he's got some instincts of a point guard and maybe we'll look at that a little bit more and see where we're going because that's what we need," the coach said.
Lin hasn't been particularly impressive, but he can bounce basketballs and sometimes throw basketballs at people and at things, so he's good enough to play point guard for the Knicks. I think I said this before, but I really won't be surprised if Lin gets a start before Davis is ready.
Meanwhile, the Jerome Jordan Point-Center Project remains on hold in case of extreme emergency. We're almost there.
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What do you guys think about trading for Calderon? There have been multiple reports that the Raptors are looking to trade him. He is averaging 10.5 points, 8.4 assists and 3.4 rebounds and is a 38% career 3 point shooter.
If the Knicks had someone to trade for Calderon, we probably wouldn't need Calderon!
by Robert Curre on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
lmao!!!!!!!!!
note the number of exclamations. might be very true and unintentionally funny (as well as sad) but that laugh will probably be the guaranteed highlight of my day…barring a win tonight.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know whether to be excited or depressed
excited because the young fella will get some PT or depressed because out of ideas and options D’Antoni has taken to coaching the Knicks by reading the comments on P&T! Let’s see last week folks were demanding that Novak get burn. the next day Novak was in the lineup! Now the clamor has been “spin Lin!” Guess what Lin is spinning. We will really know what is up when next week folks start demanding that Humpty start at point guard, and he starts! Note to Mike D’Antoni: While we are a group of generally nice guys who love the Knicks, none of us and I DO MEAN NONE!!! Knows what the hell we are talking about!
by Robert Curre on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
D'Antoni is pumping up Lin's stats in order to flip him for Calderon!
It’s all part of the plaaaaaaaaan!
i dont see how any of us could have doubted.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This can't be stressed enough
We may pretend that we’re smart, but really, we know nothing. It’s good to remind ourselves of the fact from time to time, because we end up looking like all the pseudo-GM coach bashing experts on the internet.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
absolutely FUCK ALL!... you are SO right on this one...
we don’t know squat.
oh shit!! does anyone remember a movie where a kid (i think) was playing a video game (or something) and it turned out that what he was doing in the video game was ACTUALLY happening in some alternate universe?
‘cause maybe that’s what’s happening with P & T… we think we’re just talkin’ shit… but our shit talking is actually manifesting!
by bucketsncents on Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think you need to lay off the
medical marijuana treatments for a few games
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I can personally assure all of you that I have no idea what I'm talking about
Unless we’re talking about Ocelots, because then I know quite a oceLOT … eh? see what I did there?
That’s the type of Ocelot based humor that comes in handy when discussing Ocelots.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
I would say Lin is a win if
he continues to learn and get better with each spin. By that I mean I would like to continue to see him execute sharp and more passing to his teammates especially on the PnR and I would like him to show better ability to finish when he does go to the hoop.
I’m not expecting this kid come out and transform this into a playoff caliber team, that is what Davis is going to do, I just would like to see him evolve into a dependable PG in the MDA offense which I really think he has the ability to achieve.
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions
I really like the idea of Lin and Fields, two very smart guys playing together
that said, I wish we still had Rautins to look at
by RichardVincentGuerin on Jan 31, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
wow not sure Andy had the talent
brains only go so far. The way Fields is inconsistent so far I am thinking TD is the better match up. If Lin is going to be dishing we need someone who can catch fire going to the rim and on the perimeter and that is TD if anyone.
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rautins wasn't really a PG, which is what we desperately need
We’ve got plenty of shooting guards, but only three real point guards:
- Mike Bibby – a great guy who knows how to play point guard at a top level in the NBA. Unfortunately he is athleticism has slipped too much to let his know-how be of much use.
- Baron Davis – probably still capable of playing point guard in the NBA at an elite, or near elite level. Probably. We don’t know for sure. If he can do it, and stay healthy, we’ll have Baron fo this season and probably next. After that, his contract with Cleveland expires and he’ll suddenly be concerned about being paid the league minimum by another team.
- Jeremy Lin – average athleticism, but he likely knows how to excel at point guard at any level below the NBA. He has a lot of positive qualities that offer the promise of a young player who will grow into an above average 1. There is something else about Jeremy Lin that makes him attractive: The Knicks don’t have the cap space to acquire a quality PG through free agency, and (currently) no first round pick for the upcoming draft. It’s not just that it would be nice if Lin became part of the solution for the Knicks. There may not be a better option any time soon.
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Alright, yall asked for it
now we’ll see if it can possibly get uglier than its already been.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jan 31, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions
I told you
D’antoni is one heart-to-heart with Toney Douglas away from turning this team around. If not Lin, then Jerome at the point! Either way,we may be on the up and up!
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Personally I think If Davis isn't back next week
D’Antoni is suiting up and calling his own number!
by Robert Curre on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Was previously against Lin getting "significant" run...
but last game he didn’t look any worse than our previous pg situation, so I’m warming up to at least giving him a shot. Hopefully the game will slow down even just a real little bit so he cuts down on his turnover rate.
Not all turnovers are created equal
If the guy tries to thread a pass to Amar’e and doesn’t get it quite right, but learns something from it, it’s not bad. Those types of turnovers are actually part of the process of learning to play together.
On the other hand, the type of turnover where you pick up your dribble in the wrong spot and have to make a dangerous pass to another teammate who then has to dribble out of a trap when he’s not particularly good at doing that, and then has his cross court desperation pass picked off… those types of turnovers just suck balls.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
KNICKS PG QUESTIONAIRE!
1. Are you male?
(if not, do you vaguely look like one? Beggers cant be choosers!)
2. Do you know what a “basketball” is?
3. Do you see that man standing tall and talented in the painted area?
4. Can you throw said ball to that man, as well as
a. individuals wearing blue and orange (when not in NY)
b. individuals wearing orange and white (when in NY)
Congratulations! You are now a starting PG for the Knicks! Click the following link to print out your certificate!
by DonMoosavi on Jan 31, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
They got Toney a tutor and he's working really hard
But he just can’t answer number 3.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
4a could cause some problems in Charlotte
And we play them every other game, so that’s really bad.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Jan 31, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
hey can we trade Melo or TD to the WNBA?
that could work. if nothing else those girls know how to pass.
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Let Lin get some spin!
As far as I’m concerned this season is over. The rest of the way will be good times, hoping things improve, hopefully getting to see Knicks players you’d otherwise wouldn’t see and reading some funny ass shit from Seth and the rest of the P&T community.. so on and so forth.
I was happy when the Knicks signed Tyson Chandler but I had my heart (99%) set on that point guard we so desperately need right now at the beginning of this season. Hopefully (If the basketball Gods are willing) B.D. can turn all this around when he’s ready and at the least make us a .500 ball squad.
1. Are you male?
Yes.
2. Do you know what a "basketball" is?
Yes.
3. Do you see that man standing tall and talented in the painted area?
Number 1? Yes. Yes I do.
4. Can you throw said ball to that man, as well as
a. individuals wearing blue and orange (when not in NY)
b. individuals wearing orange and white (when in NY)
Actually, better than! I average 17 assists a game..
Did this dude just did this?
Lin has some of the best handles in the league in my eyes.
Too bad he still has to fill the rest of his game out.
Stainer of mountaintops.
cats have notoriousy bad eyesight
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Cats just can't see color very well.
Explains why I want an Asian guy starting at point. I kid! I kidd (heh heh)!
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
I laughed, I laughed
it was funny. Let’s not get too uptight about it.
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
as long as you didn't say anything about
his “driving”
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
to steal from another poster
I see what you did there
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
wow from the person who is the charter member
of the Jeremy Lin Fan Club…I gotta say you are taking it waaaaay to far. go back to Baron Davis being the key to making the Knicks a contender…for your own credibility if nothing else.
by I know smart people on Jan 31, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
As President of the Society for the Jerome Jordan Point-Center Project, may I say that I am very much looking forward to this extreme emergency ... which should be roughly Friday night
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
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